Oh yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm. Oh, okay. Mhm. Oh. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Right. Mhm. Good. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Oh, well, Yeah. Mhm. Mhm, mm. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well. Uh huh. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. She could go. Yeah. Okay. Oh. Uh huh. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Good. Come. Mhm. And getting them off. Mhm. Good and Mhm. Okay. Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. What? Cool. Okay. Mhm. Okay. Okay, liquid good. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mhm. Because who? Here? Go ahead. Okay. Yeah, If there's one message that what? Mhm. Mhm. Photo Yeah. We have all the facts in Britain today. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, the last five days more stages monday part cooking by leaving out the back. Okay. Okay. What's going on? All right, right yes I didn't. Morning ST paul bolton at all points. That's so that's I hello? Right.


how are you?


Hey, I'm doing great. How you doing?


I'm good.


I think.


Have you done this before?


No, have


I


you?


did it one I did one at one time about,


No,


I don't know


before coronavirus and, and they paired me up with a female. It was, it was fun. Um, where


go


do I'm Christie


micro sam Bennett.


Bennett, Nice to meet you. Where do you live us?


I live in yeah, in florida.


In florida? Okay, so you're a hard hit place. How are you? Are you fearing with the whole pandemic thing?


Um it's uh it's really affected my life a lot.


Did you lose your job too?


Uh yeah in turn actually I was in china before uh I lived in China for the last like seven years and then my me and my wife and our newborn baby, we came to uh florida here for chinese new Year to visit and so we haven't been able to go back and that's what I was teaching in china, so


Teaching,


we've been stuck here


teaching


for like


english?


right right, right, right okay


wow. What


yeah,


happened to our new stuff?


so


Did somebody,


it's sitting in the apartment back there and just


and


collecting dust.


what, what about like rent and all of that kind of stuff? What are they doing? Um, are they helping you or forgiving it?


Well so thankfully the rent's pretty cheap so it's like a one year Pay pay for the one year all at one time. So uh so yeah


So


I'm


you don't


all prepaid until like what august and then we if we don't make it back we have to figure out if we're gonna uh you


how


know


you're going to get your stuff?


right, dig ourselves back or if we're gonna keep running the house and then hopefully get back you know later.


Young?


Well,


it's


I was gonna say see something cliche when you said it's pretty cheap rent, but I opt I


I


opted


am


to


what


so anyway. Well, I guess it's better to be, I don't know, is it better to be stuck here or stuck under the conditions they were imposing in china.


Yeah that's the question at this point it seems like I know my wife would definitely rather be over there and so you know we'd be able to do a lot more over there than we do here I think


Well at first it seemed like they


locked


have


down


you?


pretty tight like like within that


definitely,


first several months or so. But then


you


know.


guess everybody's changing how they do things now so.


Right right. Yeah it was definitely a lot more extreme over there but uh it seems like it was kind of they did it got kind of seem to get over it you know if you believe what they say it or not. Uh And now most people are kind of back to relatively normal like my school opened again so I'd be able to work if I was over there which would be good. But.


Are they forbidding um travel from us or anywhere else? Okay.


nobody can enter so that's a problem because I have the working Visa and so no no person with a Visa can enter china right now quickly.


I heard within the last few days I don't know if it was associated with new york or not but I heard there's no travel here from like the U. K. Um Some of that that area.


Yeah I think trump put in a thing for


actually


stop in the U. K. For a while but yeah now the U. K. Thinking about stopping us travel gonna have


And


it.


then and then what are we supposed to do about the people


All


who are now infected because they were part of all the protests or the political rallies who now are going to go and visit their their mother in another state. There's something like that. I mean it's a little hard to control that sort


that's


of thing, especially


definitely


if people decide that it isn't such a serious thing anymore. And that's that's kind of my concern is become, I think it's human nature to become a little bit lax over time, but this is a little bit too serious to do that, so. Mhm.


and it's definitely tougher I think for us over here in the US because we haven't really had to deal with anything like this ever, you know, in the last 100 years early,


Since 1918.


but yeah. Right.


Um yeah, and then of course, I know parts of your state were reopening and now closing again because there was a resurgence and things like that. So. So


So uh


what do you do for fun now? Do you do you have another job here in the US temporarily or not?


what, at this point I'm not I haven't really been doing a lot um making


Except prolific.


my memory. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I


It


just started doing this, you know, like a couple of like a couple of days ago really and so


prolific


I'm pretty


has been


good.


pretty good actually. I've tried out a lot of different um survey things just for extra money. And


Last night.


prolific is by far to me the most interesting because the studies are all academically based and their pay rate is much more fair than some of the others. Um And that's what I like about it because many of the surveys are quite interesting and you know


I was trying to look into some different like options like that, but yeah, this is really the first one that's really been working out well.


the one that's called branded surveys that forever to do anything. Um If I weren't close to getting almost $10, then I might just stop it entirely. I might go just till I make that next point and then stop because it takes a lot of time. Much more time than anything on prolific does. Um for far less payment. So that's kind of how old is your baby?


So he just turned one uh


Yes.


this month. So yeah, that that's kind of saving the saving everybody here. Uh


Something to focus your energies on and


that's


you might


done.


not have had nearly as much time with him at this age if other circumstances were involved. So


So


I don't know.


yeah, it's


I guess it.


good for his or my parents, you know, his grandparents because they you know we were supposed to come for like one month less than a month visit but now they get to really they've been with them for the last six months


Are you


they've


living


got out.


with them?


Right right so yeah actually yeah we're


still


you're all


we're


stuck together? Is it is it your folks? So how does your wife handle that? Is there is everything kind of friendly or is there that normal kind of a little mother in law clash once in a while,


Uh It's no I mean it's totally fine she's


is it?


she's trying to use and so he uh


Mhm.


I mean


Not


her


bad.


english isn't perfect by any means but you know she gets along with everybody here and everybody's fine nets and in that case yeah.


Um


Yeah.


Another thing I started doing recently for extra money because I lost, I have I've been a substitute teacher for like 20 years and of course substitutes if schools are closed, you have no work. So that shot went high and then um I work part time at a pet store petsmart. And um I took a voluntary leave. It was just a little too scary for me, they're considered essential. Well I


interesting


just I didn't feel safe. So um I took voluntary leave and then they turned that into a furlough. So that


that's


job


what


was gone. And then um my third job is a real estate agent and that market has really changed. I mean I carry a thing of wipes around me everywhere I go, but you still have to keep distance and businesses like dropped off the face of the earth. So um basically everything, but I did find recently, like within the last say two months I found this teaching english site, it's called Cambly. It's much


You


more informal, more informal than what you do or other tutoring sites. I have a referral link


Well


if you're interested, I can send it to you. Um Thank


Campbell


you Cambly. C A M. B. L. Y. And It's not great pay, it's like


Like


uh 17 cents a minute, works out like 10 20 an hour. But they pay you through paypal so


stop.


you don't, you don't necessarily have to report it because Cambly will not send a 10 99 to anyone. And Paypal will, unless you make a lot of money and


I asked.


you know, so, um,


so I've been doing that for a


why


couple weeks now and it's been okay.


thank you.


You know, you get your share of five minute trial students that are silly and you know, then they're gone. Or I guess there are some customs in other areas of the world, like I forgot which, which nationality. It's perfectly acceptable for a male to come on a video with no shirt. Uh, and then there are the ones


Warm


that are, I had one


there may


teenage


be


kid all he wanted, well give me your WhatsApp address and we're not allowed to do that, you know, But those have only been very infrequent and some of the rest of them have been


Considering


very interesting. Um, met one guy from Brazil. He was a vet. That was one of the best talks because I wanted to be a vet and I have have right next to me keeping me company. Um


kitty pig. Yeah my my cats over is stuck you know stuck at home and the


in china,


other side yeah and the other side of the world there's


but who feeds it?


well so so we've had he's been through a couple of uh staying with a couple of friends and stuff now so


That's


we


good.


just yeah so actually a friend of mine is just picking him up today, he was kind of in between a couple of people, The one person who moved away and everything


that's


crazy.


that's just full for you guys and for the cat. This one here next to me and well, if you one month from yesterday, she'll be 19. So she's a


wow.


she's an old lady, her sister, her sister died, her real sister died about a year ago just shy of 18 on So I'm I'm hopeful you're only hopeful. But like I was telling you this Cambly site is not a ton of money, but at least you don't have to take the taxes out of it. And um you know it's fairly interesting. You learn stuff around about other cultures. Mostly. I've talked to people in Turkey and Saudi Arabia

Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh wow. Yeah. Mhm mhm. Mhm.


No.


and its its informal, it's not like you have to have a uh set up class or anything, you'd be great at it since you already teach english. But it's just you know it's some extra money. Um which helps if you don't have anything coming in. Well yeah but


like what? Because you were you were part time at the at the pet pet store there?


Yeah and I just


What?


went back, went back two weeks ago. Yeah


okay


and


so we're sorry were they able to like give you any unemployment or anything like that, does that


well


does that not work?


it's funny because I didn't think I actually didn't think I could get it from there because I was on a voluntary leave but


All


then I found out that they actually did furlough me which is fine but I didn't even want employment unemployment from them. But I've never applied in my whole life, I had never applied. But what was stopping me is that for substitute teaching when you sign up every year you sign this piece of paper acknowledging that you cannot go after unemployment when you're not working in the summer. And I've operated under that principle for years because it's it's not a contract job or anything. But um when I went to go turn my paper in that said yeah I'll come back next year. I asked somebody in human resources, I said well


Whoa.


you know since school closed and there's no work, are we allowed to apply for unemployment? They told me yes. So this is two months after the fat though. I mean my last day of school was in The 3rd Week of March. I didn't apply till the end of May. I


Thank


got


you.


unemployment. It's it's not watch, I mean it's paltry. But what made it important is the um pandemic unemployment assistance


the better little things


program, the


little


federally


bit better than


funded poll. So as long as you qualify for even $1 of unemployment Then you'll get the extra 600. And and it happened. And I was like yeah and


Is


then


it like


pets


back player


what what?


did they did they back pay you for all the


I don't


time?


know how to get that. They did not do that and I don't know I miss something or I don't know, I don't know how to, I don't know how to find out and you can't get them on the phone. At least not not in Illinois, it's been very difficult. So


I think so


so I don't know how to pursue


From


that. But uh so now that petsmart has


part


me


and


back again, I'm worried that that amount of the amount of hours that they give me would screw up the unemployment because they are listed on there. And so I'll find out this week because I do the reporting on monday and I work to hold seven hours in two weeks. So and they break it down first week, how many dollars did you make? And it doesn't matter if you've been paid, you have to report what you earned, even if you haven't gotten paid yet. So The first week it would be like three hours worth, which is not very much like $36. And the second week is like four hours today was today was one of them. And then so when the when the next check comes, I will find out the ramifications of working and you know what it does to the amount as long as it stays above a dollar that I'm qualified for. I don't care because

Right. Mhm. Right. Uh huh wow. Right. Uh huh.


You got


it's


yourself get the like


was the


what


it


like


other part


or


that


something?


I needed. So um so I don't know, I don't know enough about how it works and I don't know how to go after retroactive to date of loss. Um


Right Right.


I still haven't been able to figure it out. I've tried but I can't do it.


I just I just heard something on some youtube video of some guy talking about and he said oh yeah you can get if you can sign up for it even later they'll still pay you you know that weeks from you know if you signed up late they'll pay you back there but


and that's


don't know.


what I heard but and and the thing is like my daughter replied but she's got a completely different circumstance because she's like a gig worker type thing so she didn't qualify for regular unemployment which was a requirement.


What?


And then


Bye.


if you're denied regular then you can apply for P. U. P. U. A. Pandemic unemployment assistance. Different program one for the 600 has different initials and so she applied got denied then applied to the the next one and she got it and they


what?


when they sent her her first like check in they went all the way back to her date


but


of loss. But that didn't happen When I got my 4th 1. So I don't know. I don't know if it's because it's regular


Thank


unemployment.


you, sir,


I don't I don't know I don't know if sending in an email would help, it'll get lost in the sea of emails I'm sure. So anyway


I


it's


bet they get a lot of,


it's a it's a lot of hoops to jump through but you know if you need the money then you have to do it. So I just wish I would have done it sooner and didn't assume that I couldn't um But you know I've


I like


been operating under that assumption for 20 years so it's it's like Okay well we're just not allowed to get it so but


I said it would


you


come


know


to see.


anyway um


You


Okay next subject do you pick?


did you did you when you're substituting, did you, is it always like the same subject or does it different ages or just anything


You can pick what you want. I'm signed up to go K through eight when


happening?


I a long time ago I focused more on the little kids. Um As my kids grew up I grew up in substituting


Uh huh That's it.


are you okay? You are still there, Your video went away,


Thank


so


you.


So um then as my kids grew up I started taking older grades. So now what I usually sub for is middle school, like 6th through 8th grade. And um pretty much that's all I do and I know who teaches what like I know certain teachers do math and social studies in a day, other teachers might do um communications in english, I tend to pick the teachers that do math and science because those are the subjects that I like the


I


best


thank you.


and that I'm most proficient at and then I just follow the plans that they um the plans that they leave. Is there any chance of getting your video back that position?


Can you see me at all?


Yeah, I can't see it at all. It's just


No,


a it's a silhouette on the screen.


that's weird. I can still,


I don't know why it, I don't know. oh there you are, what


And


you do


I was uh I don't know, I just


the last


moved to the bathroom.


button you pressed. Um


Okay. If I'm not back


But it's


now in my


you're


life,


back,


my not very clear,


you're a little blurry but not bad, I mean


no.


I can still see your features and stuff but yeah, I like the, I like something, it's for the most part it's pretty good, but you know what I've noticed over 20 years the kids are getting so much more rude, I'm really rude, really disrespectful and you feel like you're always on them because of that uh that part I don't like I don't know what it is, I don't know if if parenting has changed over the years or I


unique.


just I don't know what it is um.


Yeah, that's maybe one of the things that makes me a little a little


Yeah.


cautious of trying to become a teacher over here in the US.


there are a lot of hoops to jump through and boy do I feel sorry for for teachers right now here because what are you doing? Um Oh she found garbage on the floor. I was she was all


No.


laying weird. Uh


Hello?


They have to um come up with an entire online curriculum. I mean they did for the end of school, I don't know what's going to happen in the fall because they haven't announced if school is reopening. So I don't know, I kind of hope they hold off a little bit, but you know that's probably because it's easier to collect unemployment than it is to pick up the jobs and I'll be scared I don't want to be around all those kids. Um

Yeah. Right, right, mm. Mhm, mm. Yeah. Right,


right, right,


So but if school starts then technically I'm not unemployed,


right, let's see.


I just haven't I haven't if I don't accept any work, it's not refusing work, it's just not accepting work. That's a pretty fine line because on the on the form where you have to certify your hours, it asked you right on there, did you turn down any work?


Right, I see. Uh


So uh if my phone doesn't work then I can't hear it ring and then I'm not refusing any work. I don't


shit


know I could make a case for it. We'll have to just see how it goes. How long do you think you're going to be stuck? There's no way of knowing when they're going to lift the travel? So you're you're gonna have to look for a job now here. Huh?


Yeah, I you know, I I've also looked at different uh online kind of online teaching stuff for mainly like chinese companies like that and I teach kindergarten over there, so I'm I'm usually with like really little little kids and uh I yeah, I mean I just really got to get started on one of them, I'm one of these different, you know, there's like a number of different,


You


I'm


know


not.


do you know of reputable ones then I was gonna say another, another site I use all the time is rat race rebellion. And I have it's for it's for like online work at home type jobs. And I frequently see you know teach chinese to kids online. Um And that would be it's not something I would do because I don't actually have teacher certification and I don't want to help people prepare for tests or anything Campbell because it can just be conversational as well.


I see, I see.


Um But I know that that uh that one has come up quite a bit I've heard, I mean I I see it all the time because pretty much get an email from rat race rebellion once a day and it outlines the jobs that are out there. What I like about them is that they're they're kind of vetted first, they've checked into the legitimacy of of the ones that they're posting. Um So that kind of works out nicely but


Yeah, thanks, thanks for the ideas.


yeah. Um So um mm next I just like really do a plate which is weird because I talk to people all day. Um And mostly people I don't know like real estate clients, things like that, except I have a fairly fixed script, so to speak,


I


you


actually,


know?


my funny you mentioned real estate, my brother is, you know, he's like a guru guy here find themselves uh you know houses and commercial property and everything all


Is he a


and


licensed agent then?


uh I don't even know if he has a licence if he's actually an agent, he's more of like you know that entrepreneur like investment kind of guy that's


So he might. Okay. Um because I know like to go see property. Yeah, that kind of thing. You have to to go look at it with somebody, you have to have a license. I'd


thank


be curious


you.


to, you know, if he has a he if he buys and sells, he probably has a real estate license, then he can save the commission, I mean.


But I think he does, he tries to get like, you know, he tries to get the house, he tries to get in touch with the person that wants to sell the house before they even put it on the market, you know, like he tries to


Okay. Yeah, I got it. And then then that way the uh and it's of course it's the seller who's paying the commission, so he saves them money by doing that. Yes,


right, yeah, that's that's the


once


stuff


it's on the market, they have to wait until their uh their contractual obligation for the listing expires. Uh You know, they can't just let anybody come and do it, otherwise they still have to pay the commission on it. So


hurt. No.


is it? Uh So he makes a good living at that? I'm no real estate tycoon, I don't make a living


but


at it. I'm lucky if I do one or two or three houses a year, that's why I have other jobs. Um And I don't know, it just could be um I don't know, I'm not cut throat, I'm just not like that, I'm too honest. Yeah. You know that's hard to say that anybody who does well is dishonest. It's just uh I don't know, it's something


why


about


we


it.


upfront


So


about everything


I am.


that Mhm.


that I think that's probably got me into trouble before, but that's okay, it's who I am, so I'm not going to change it, right.


that's fine.


Some people appreciate that, you know? Mhm. Uh But uh yeah. What is your does your wife work or she's staying at home with your baby for now at least?


Yeah, she since uh yes and she had the baby and everything that she has to spend at home and being a very good mommy there.


Um My son he just um yeah He just turned 33. They've been married now for I don't know four years or so, Maybe five. They live in Colorado. That's where I want to go after when I moved from here. And


How cool.


they are just now they mentioned at first I have never ever ever asked but they mentioned they were thinking about having a kid now so I was like oh okay I don't care one way or another it might be it'll be fun. They had it. I had a grand kitty but grand kitty passed away and that was very sad.


now


They only had him for three years. He


thanks.


had he had a heart condition, they adopted him when he was seven and he already had um a known heart condition and um A couple other things but they gave him the most


What?


pampered wonderful three years he ever had. So that's a saving grace you know. But um so anyway yeah they they're thinking about that so um I'm


that's


thinking


very


you to be are you right around that same age?


Yeah, I'm 31.


Okay. Yeah it just it seemed like you might be right around his same age. My daughter is 30 or she will be She'll be 31 next month. She was born in 89.


Great game with me.


so yeah that will be interesting. And she doesn't live as far away. She lives about an hour away from me. Just moved to Wisconsin recently. Mhm. Um Just


Mhm.


north of where I live in Illinois


Catchy


takes about an hour and 15 minutes to drive there. But um but at least I can visit but not really too much right now. We haven't seen each other. She did she did come visit on my birthday in May. Um And we just you know took a chance because I hadn't seen her in a while and you know we stayed away from each other. We didn't wear masks but we did stay away from each other a little bit


and she hadn't really been out much so I felt pretty safe. Um


yeah,


It's just hard when you can't see the people that you you know would like to see. Uh huh.


we've been pretty fortunate with so we would we have been staying with my parents here. But then my brother, real estate guy is also just, you know, right, you know, two streets over. Pretty much so. And he he just had a kid uh


Excellent.


His


Thanks.


baby is maybe six months older than our baby. Mm


okay.


So yeah.


He has incentive to keep himself very safe in his business dealings.


Mhm. Yeah, definitely. And uh


Yeah.


so so yeah, so we've been kind of between both houses with them and over


Is


here.


it?


And so are my parents can be with both babies and mm


yeah.


yeah, not not really going out associated much with going out as little as possible, you know? Pretty much,


Yeah I get it for sure. Um Would you like um the referral recruit


sure, you know, I'm


link for


gonna


gambling?


ask you about that,


Can I have your email for one time? Use only? Um


If


Good


you want


either.


to hold it up I have a notebook with me. I'll write it down and um, and then I'll just send it to you via email. I'll remind you it's me from the prolific chat and then I'll just send you the referral link. Um It's not hard to use, not hard to get accepted and Once you get 10 hours of talk time It took me, I was only doing it a couple of days a week. So it took me about 2.5 weeks to get up to 10. Um then um, then I get a referral bonus, but then you, if you look under your profile, assume you get accepted and all of that kind of stuff. Then if you look under your profile, you'll have a referral link. If you give it to somebody and they complete the process. Then you'd get the bonus too


Match


if you know other people who are in a pinch and and would like that sort of thing, you know? Um But I think that you'd be good at it just based upon what you've already told me. You do, you're like a shoe in, you might, you might actually like the ones that pay more, but you could also fill in with it whenever, because you can just jump on whenever you want to, if you want to, you know, um that's how I've been doing it. You can also reserve and sign up ahead and I just, oh, I have some time and I go and click the button and say, okay, I'll stay here now for


And so


our


some some person would just kind of uh select you or something and then they only want to chat,


thank


chat


you.


with you.


What happens, what they call it, what they call it is priority hours. So if you go on your dashboard screen, you can, you can see um your dashboard, you see priority hours and it's a big grid of time blocks priority waters or increments of one hour if you're spontaneously doing it. Like if I go on at 10 minutes to one and thought, okay, I check the video and I click from 1 to 2, I I select that priority our, then I'm committed to stay for that hour and any anybody who calls, you have to pick up, so you get, you get a whole bunch of different kinds of people. Um but so far it's worked out and I haven't gotten the hang of like developing a schedule that I'll follow and post


I see,


out there so people can select.


I


see,


do, you do get a reservation link and I've sent that to people, but I hadn't posted any scheduled hours right now. I'm just kind of, since I'm still kind of learning it, I just think okay, I can spend a couple hours at this, so as long as that, as long as you click on that button before the half hour is up, like by 1 30 then you can click the 1 to 1 to two button and just sit there until two o'clock or you can click as many as you want, but once do that, you do have to commit to it since


your


think.


spontaneously doing it, you can also sign up for those same hours ahead of time, then you just want to make sure you're not late. I've never done that just because it's easier for me to just, I never know if I'm going to get an appointment or something, but if I'm sitting around and I realized, oh yeah, I can sit here for another couple hours, then I'll click on and do it.


Not yet,


it works better for me that way, but there's a lot of flexibility with how they do it um and you'll have my email if you decide to do it and you get stuck II somebody else, one of my friends signed up and so she's just starting to learn it, so she text me questions all the time and I said oh yeah just click here and here, so and then she's found out some stuff by doing some reading that I hadn't done, so we go back and forth and it's it's helpful because um I might know something that she doesn't know and vice versa, so it's worked out pretty well. Uh what's your email,

yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Uh huh, wow.


And the


I can just write it down yeah


Mhm. Uh


together.


It's um yeah,


huh. Mhm,


F. I. E. N


Like frank, Yeah.


that prank I. E. N. W. New S.


Yeah F M like the radio? Okay.


I'm sorry, F uh to uh frank frank.


frank frank, Okay.


okay,


At what?


Atz proton Mail, that is T. R. O. T. O. N.


That's a new one on me, is


proton


it dot,


mail,


is it dot com? Pro proton? P. R. O. T. O. N. Mail dot com.


that's correct. It's


After


F.


after the follow up thing, I know that when we, when we end up hanging up we've got like 20 minutes of questions or something to answer.


Oh yeah. Right. Right.


Well when the survey part, whole thing is done, I'll send it to you, I'll send you the email. Mhm.


okay. Here let me just show you that the first um


Yeah. Okay. Let me. Okay. Okay. F. F. E. N. W. E. F. F. O. Wolf. Like a dog at protein mail dot com. Okay.


that's right, thank you very much for that.


Yeah. And who knows, I mean you might think it sucks or you might think it's workable


Yeah I'll definitely check it out you see


and


you see.


like I said they pay you through Paypal and they pay you once a week on Mondays, whatever you've made the previous week. I think


that's


I'm


good.


up to a whole $73 this week. You know,


that'll definitely help


it's a little


help


something,


out.


But yeah,


All right,


we passed our time limit.


so


You're ready to, you ready to go do the rest of it.


yeah I think we're good. Nice talking to you.


Uh, it's been fun, definitely. And um, I'll try and email you the, the referral link. It goes on the application, so you have to use it in the application. Um, I'll


Yeah, I'll make sure


send


that uh


it before then. For sure.


Okay, cool. Yeah I'll make sure it gets in there right


Well,


for you.


yeah, and good luck if you end up doing it and I hope your kid is okay.


Yeah he's he's really cool, he's got he's got one he's he's mainly white and he's got one yellow and one blue eye. And


neat. Was he born in china or


he was he was born he was born there and he was really random, he just kind of wandered to our door and


Oh, let me,


found him yeah and he was just you know, just really dirty for lost little kitten and really he's the nicest cat now. He's super chilled out and very tightly and yeah, super


Well before my daughter moved out, um, one of our cats, she just decided to claim the claim her and then she adopted another one. So then she took the two younger ones when she moved out. But one of them who was really my cat, a friend of mine does destination weddings and she's also indian and she does photography there. She was in India and overheard this group of, I'll just call them thugs uh, talking about being mean to this cat and getting rid of it and not in a good way. She went over scooped up the cat ended up getting a couple temporary homes. Um, for a short time, ended up bringing it back to where they live in Washington D. C. Then

nice. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh. Oh. Uh huh. Uh huh, wow.


Come


she


in yet.


throw like


I


do.


miles and brought the cat


No,


to me. So I actually did have an indian cat, cutest little thing. Black and white looks like a cattle.


huh.


I'll follow calculate. But she's a very nice cat. So my daughter has her and and the other one that she adopted. Um, but,


or,


but this kitty really did take a shine to my daughter. I mean they they had a really good bond and you know there is no substitute for that. So I was fine and she was happy to have two of them, so and now they're her therapy cats.


But


Hey,


very good.


I will let you go and uh complete the rest of the survey. It was nice to meet you.


All right, nice to meet you too.


All right. Good luck to you.


All right, take it easy.


Okay? You too. Bye. Bye.


All right, please. Mhm.


Yes yes so. Mhm. Alright. Alright I was just yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. What bothers me? What? Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. More right. Hello?


Hi I think a little bit later I was practicing.


No problem. Uh practicing what?


violin. Yeah come on. Double major. Yeah my name is Alex Kids Songs,


My name is Ray,


Nice to meet you. Right um So uh what do you work in?


you


What's


call


your field


it?


or what are you majoring in if you're in college?


I'm disabled actually. Uh Yeah


Oh no worries


I am working on uh I. T. Certifications so that yeah.


Really cool because actually I mentioned earlier I was double major right? So I'm doing um so my first major is music pedagogy which is pretty much performance but mostly geared towards like understanding the philosophy. And the second major is actually B. C. S. I. T. Yeah. Yeah so I'm just doing I. T. General because I was thinking maybe your cybersecurity like are you are you just doing I. T. Certifications? Are they like I. T. With like some cyber or some focus on them?


Right now it's just the uh google certifications on coursera. Just


I was like


take it.


what are the certifications entail? Sorry the connections kind of office sent me to cut you off.


It's um mostly just uh intro stuff right now. Uh Currently I'm focusing on the course is focusing on operating system. Oh it's To the certification is to prep you to be a level one tech so it's mostly I'm using it to see if this is actually a field I'm interested in pursuing what.


I see. Yeah that makes sense to do it. I


Trouble.


mean. Yeah that's a that's a lot better than you know going to college and like you know spending god knows what for the semester then finding out like this


the college prices have kind of it uh out there.


absurd. Yeah. But since um remember just not offensive. But then since you're disabled don't you get reduced tuition? Because I know some universities like I know some communities at some university they do either like almost all of it or the entire tuition reduced like gone.


some do I haven't actually looked into the one here, it's when I need to research eventually but I'm trying to figure


That.


out things before I actually start researching that because I I I don't wanna go down that path and have all that money spent. Uh just to find out it's not something that's going to work for me.


Oh I see. That makes complete sense. If you know what we asking, where do you live at? What area


Bargain


Oregon


or


all. I don't know. What organism in Virginia. Is that like south or east East


I'm


west?


actually shocked how many people don't know how we're Oregon is. Uh you know where Washington is?


on the like the very top corner.


Yeah we're just south of Washington between Washington and California.


Oh I was thinking you guys were like in the middle of the U. S. Was like probably organs in the middle. Okay so that's so then what time is it for you because right now it's six for me. So you must be at like uh


Three


like yeah I was about to say three because I had a friend who lived in Cali for a bit because she's


but


my friend who goes to Gm you so when she went back to Cali it was like a five hour difference. Certainly that


Yeah it's


I see. But


early in the day here but


yeah I see. Yeah it's kind of late for me. So like You know I'm already trying to finish, I'm trying to finish a project right now for my my IT. courses. It's like it's due at 11 and I'm almost done with it. But it's like um I have to use Photoshop to like make a logo for some like it's like a simulation. Like I I only like I'm advertising company have to make the logo for the company. It's stupid,


that's not actually it. That's a graphic design. Very different fields.


I know, but it's in the it's so stupid, right? It's I. T. To 13 in. It's called web design or elements of web design, something like that. But I have to take it because I am a general I. T. And even if I was cybersecurity, I don't have to take that because this goes to dreamweaver Photoshop and something else africa. The third one is this barrel Dobie.


Basic web design I can see that being under it. So you can uh it would help understand what's going on with the websites if you're hoping to but uh knowing how to use Photoshop isn't actually part of that.


I know it's really weird because like even I was questioned, but I have to take this course. I mean like I can't understand Dreamweaver, but then I think you've heard of Wordpress, right? Yeah, no one uses Dreamweaver because because Wordpress is a thing. That's the reason Wordpress is like 1000 times better. And Dreamweaver, I mean you can sit there for hours and still have like, you know, still we still have the page relatively empty because you have to find like all these um all like the you have to know how to pretty much have not only how html works, but how like the source code for Dreamweaver works and how to operate. It's really confusing. I hate it.


yeah. Yeah having I. T. People go into art scenes. Yeah. Uh huh. Although


Or


I do actually know how to use Photoshop but I do quite a bit of art and uh three D. work so Photoshop kind of requirement.


always. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean for me um I'm not good with heart. That's what I can't draw. That's why my music, I can't I cannot draw like I have been here training so um but like I guess that would make sense. Um for our but do you like do you pirate yours or do you actually have to pay the description?


I paid the subscription. Uh


Because I tried to pirate mine. I could not.


Yeah. Yeah I know I've been there uh back before they even had subscription options


trump.


with the dark days. Where?


Oh so you were here, wait, When you were around like you're back in like you know the phrase back in your day? What? Really like was it just Internet explorer seven or like no, like, you know Windows


back


seven? Yeah.


I'm back win 95 days.


Oh my God, So you're back with the dinosaur computers? Like my sister? Oh my


I grew up on BBS


they're not.


this and things like that.


Oh, that time. Yeah, that's like I was born 2011. So by the time I actually remembering things, it was already relatively like we're gonna really like Windows seven at that 70.2000 like 56 Windows seven, Windows six.


I think so. I'm not sure. Uh


But Yeah, because I just like when I look back at it now, anything before like 2004, like the dark ages with dialogue. Yeah.


dialogue was fun. Although I didn't have cable internet when I was 14 so. Uh huh.


well, but then


Okay that was


it


when


would


cable internet was first starting


that's why, because I was like if it existed then why did some people use it was like, okay, that's why. So if you don't mind me asking, what were you born,


82? Okay so you're like before my bit before my sister because my sister was 74. Oh that's before Oh my God no 94 74 S that's my mom is 94.


74 is a little bit before my time to. Yeah. Uh


Yeah.


Yeah I definitely had had but different experience with the internet, but yeah uh back when my brother was in college, the professors were actually telling you what sites to go to download, Pirated copy of all of the software because they didn't have educational licenses and all of that back then. Mm.


yeah and it wasn't part of the they have contract that they do now with adobe and all that.


Uh So yeah for a while I was using the educational version of Maya. Uh And uh then they stop, they pulled


But


the free educational version, so I've switched over to blender and Fortunately Adobe does a $10 Photoshop subscription.


Yeah it's kind of, I mean I know for the student one you what starts with the student one is you can't get the single one is you can't just give one so you have to get all of it. Which I'm stuck with because again I try to pirate it. Not just like every time I saw like a somewhat uh somewhat yeah


somewhat reliable source, it always told me like, you know, application invalid or something like that. Like you know install the delivery like


Enough.


hated that because you


No


know you're paying for a program


mama.


but your licensing which is stupid.


Yeah, the whole subscription model idea has really got a little bit too far, especially with the uh this type of software. Right.


Yeah. I feel like adobe is like ubi soft equivalent of like code. Right? Is it just me?


Yeah that that makes a lot of sense over, I have to say auto desk is 1000 times worse.


I don't I don't even know what that is. What is that?


Mhm. Auto desk. Uh Have you heard of AutoCAd?


Yeah I think I have. But um what's the


three DS Max?


three DS Max Lair but not Maya.


Uh There are basically three D. Software. Auto cat is big in uh industrial design. Maya three Ds max are generally for uh production are like movies and games. Uh And their subscriptions tend to be um 2 3000 a year. Yeah.


But are they even like for Maya that is uh in three D. And three D. Are they even better than adobe or they just like the same thing? Yeah.


adobe doesn't do three D. Adobe does the two D. Part of it. You still if you want to do three D. Art you need a three D. Software and then you also need something like Photoshop or substance painter to do the textures that you put on them. So you actually have to have Multiple subscriptions to be in the three D. field. Uh huh.


Oh wait but then what like what's your rig set up? I'm on the laptop. That was in video though so I can have three D. But for


I've


you


got a desktop. It's risen uh 5 36 100 with an R. TX 2060.


60? Nice. But that's uh that supports also like three D. Correct or three D. Text. Okay


Mhm.


so. Uh huh. Do you also feel like any like playing the games like Steam or Xbox or something?


yes I played quite a bit of games that before I started doing the I. T. Work. That's actually what I was studying towards was art for Treaty Games. But that field is just such it's in so much chaos right now with crunch time and things like that. It's not something I would survive in.


Yeah and I heard about that fuel to it's the same thing goes for like coding for games because even before Kobe it was a mess but now it's even more so a mess


yeah the whole


are.


game industry of uh we're going to work you 2 300 hours you're going to sleep in your office kind of thing is still going on and yeah


mean at least you sleep in your own house but like still, I mean yeah the pay is pretty good because I know for like a developer especially like someone who knows code and works at a big franchise, they get paid like You know 50, 60 even more than that an hour.


Business.


But you're kind of slave at that point you're like a literal weight slave sucks. It's that.


the coders and engineers they're they're the ones who make the big money comparatively. Although from what I've talked most of the people I've talked to if they were to actually drop out of the games industry moving to another field they would be making double what they currently making the games industry. Because uh coding is such a specialist art form


Wait so


and


that was coding or are in general?


well I do the art, but I know a lot of people who do the coding as well and you make a lot more money coding, not in the games industry,


Yeah that is


your


true


soccer


to like.


development.


I know. Oh yeah that is true like um I think you heard like micro no Lockheed martin. Yeah


Mhm.


so we have actually microns like Um not that far it's like 10 minutes from here and the law keep Martin. Like we have like an actually a big building dedicated lucky morning it's like what five minutes six minutes. So I know they're like the position they're hard to get into but they're really good for like everything. It's it's It's one of these works like my plan is I have 2° for a reason so I too as a backup. And also just because you know um if another covid thing hits and if my plan goes through which I'm planning to be you know have a studio for teaching and perform or whatever but also being like on call for code and whatever. Like as an I. T. Other side security or just in the architecture like the architecture, you know part of the I. T. Staff I can work on call, I can still be kept kept up to date. And if something arises like covid I can just you know beforehand switch from on call to part time and have that just in case because I know students drop out.

Okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I started the thing was because Covid there's pretty much no one in my area who knows how to use computers and things like that and there's no one to do it support for all of these people who live nearby who suddenly had to do remote working. The teachers had no idea how to set up computers. Nobody I could have actually uh been able to make a little bit of money off of uh people meeting help suddenly.


All right. Yeah. I mean I do it but again, I don't have time because I'm so busy with all these projects. But yeah that sounds like a good plan I. T. But for like uh after like if you decide that it's a good field then so after you take the preliminary courses or like you know the courses that the you say google, right? So then you're going to search within the community college or some college and then pursue I. T. As an


possibly.


entire degree.


It depends on uh if I don't actually need the degree to get into a decent job then I probably wouldn't go for the degree until later on, something to work on overtime. But uh it's just it really depends on what opportunities there are so far I'm seeing it is not quite as


Well


easy to get into as gaming. Well okay gaming is not easy to get into but it's uh they look at your portfolio before anything else, you don't actually have to have any educational background to go into game development, you just have to have a good portfolio. Coders have a little bit harder time. Some companies prefer coders have full educational background but some don't care as long as they have a good get home.


Oh yeah. But yeah that makes sense. But yeah if you're doing I. T. Though like I know I. T. Like generally you know the difference in the I. T. And CS. Right? Computer science. Okay.


Uh


Yeah.


Yeah that's gonna ask to like um I just want to make sure because you mentioned also like coding and all that because like I. T. How I know it's like yeah we can cope with your job or whatever but like we we don't make the programs specifically like yeah the I. T. Course I'm taking you to cybersecurity I don't make it I know how to operate it and how to troubleshoot it. And you know I tested pretty much whereas the CS people they sit in their chairs. I probably cry half the time and creating a program because all.


I've tried doing the CS field to I'm decent encoding, but all of my solutions are hacky, which from the sounds of it is perfect for I. T.


Yeah I mean that's pretty much it yet because we can make the code that won't be efficient where CS it has to be efficient with sex. I mean like I learned, I'm still learning python. And java python is so much easier to make the job of the job was a pain in my ass because like it uh And the and


I


that's


wish,


and you know,


I wish java would actually just actually tie job. Uh


I can get it why it's used because it's even like, you know, it's even used by like Uber or whatever for their gps tracking or G. P. Like the whole strategy Uber how they work and job is used a lot. But like I just hate java.


so


So


many insecurities to it too. I


But


prefer C sharp, I know a bit of C plus plus python, I work


received.


out four times now and I just cannot get over the whole no semi colons thing and think not variables to me should be strongly. Uh It just annoys me.


Yeah. I can see that. That makes sense because like yeah, because luckily I learned python first. If I learn java first, which they don't allow because they always they want python first. I would be out having trouble with. I would have yeah, I would have more trouble because java or doing java then going to python is like uh, what's the opposite of upgrade? Degrading?


Great.


Yeah. Downgrading its like, downgrading entirely. Like an entire like level or two. But whereas if it's the opposite, which we learn python or java, it's a straight upgrade. But it's much harder. But still. Yeah, because that's what I feel like. And um I'm pretty sure to like if anyone to ask me also like, well what should they learn first? I just say python that's like, that's like the basic


Yeah, it's very powerful from what I've seen, but it's just doesn't really fit for me,


Yeah. And job is all the crazy anyone ever uses java. Like speaking of games to before. What games do you play on steam then?


a very, very wide variety of games. I


You have to


what,


you have to


DF two?


Team fortress two.


Oh yeah, I have played it, but I don't really get into the team shooter that much.


I see.


Destiny to the closest I come to team shooter.


Oh, but you play that definitely to consistently.


Not lately, but I did it for quite a while.


When did you drop off? Because I was like, were you there from the very beginning a Destiny one or did you go to Destiny too? So they got it for pc


I was there for Destiny. You want as well? It


Year one Right here one, There's another year one veteran. Oh my God.


it was definitely a change of pace from all the other normal M. O. S. And J. RPGS and things like that. And it took shooters to a whole new level, Frankly. Uh, most shooters are very topical.


Come from Paula duty esque. That's what I don't like. But like the whole addition of abilities and all of that. That's what really like, that's just what I pretty much I just loved it because I was there from like, I wasn't there from when you that day one or just year one.


probably month one.


Yeah, I was actually year one, but I, I joined around Crow to and uh luckily I joined around Kuroda because I got to all the memes where you know, crude is just a strike is not a raid solo. You sold Dakota, right?


No.


Oh, it's a rite of passage. You have to do it eventually.


I do have the crowd a weapon the uh there's a there was a rare drop that you get. It's a hive weapon at which you then have to use to kill hive on the moon to upgrade it and then you upgrade it again and again. Until if I remember it, you do actually have to go in and kill Crow to to get the final form of the exotic. Never


the I, the neck a chasm uh that's it. You did the whole thing. I never did it because


I


all I got was the husk.


didn't finish the whole thing but


Okay, good. Because like for me, all I got was the husk and I completed it just for fun. But then all my friends told me at that time, um, it's a waste of time because how garbage it was because they spent like God knows how long farming pro to over and over and you know, they still don't get the ice. I don't even get the accident stay. I never got the, I actually


I found the weapon to be the husk


three.


to be really good actually. It was a fun weapon to use the speed of the shot.


Yeah, that's true. That's pretty good. And but also like you, you is also like that what's called the calving cash rifle. The very beginning using the multiplayer. Right?


No I don't remember it.


Oh, because I remember like uh me and my friends, I think I'm like this, it was the summer after for the summer around the law wolves, the wolves event, the wolves. You'll see. Uh Me and my friends found out that, I mean we found a personal youtube video but it was relatively small at the time that we found out that the beginning rifle, the caliber rifle was stupid, overpowered in multi player for like a low or you know the beginner weapon? It had like wicked, it had a wicked time to kill


so


like comparable


it's scale.


next


Well


task. Yeah, so the only problem was it sucked, like, you know, you couldn't get that good reward. So the best thing to do is like right before the match ended, swap to you, you get the highest weapon and then get the rewards. But it was fun to pub stop. It was so fun. But yeah, it was definitely fun to pop stop. You did like all the raids. Right?


What? Oh


what was


no


it?


I I didn't actually have a group of people to play with and I couldn't I could never find anyone who was willing to read with me


How come


what


you didn't have gala horn? You didn't have gallery warm.


the weapon. I


Yeah. Is that why? Right here?


didn't even know anyone who was asking for it. I was using the group, find her Reddit and all of that for for the game. But I never could find anyone who is willing to play.


Yeah. Oh, I see. That's why you like use LFG two. Right? Oh, that's strange because like you, I'm pretty sure you saw about maybe you forgot because all I remember from those days, like, especially all the way up until before oryx. So, um, a theon all the way up to access gala horn. You do not have a California kicked. Oh, those are so toxic. I remember that.


Yeah. You know their whole idea that you can't use raid finder because this stuff this content is just too hard is absolutely ridiculous because you know I've been playing these games since I was six years old. Uh you know every game I've seen that has raid finder. People figure out how to do it no matter what, crappy pickup group you get, people figure out how to do it.


Yeah. It's surprising even like you pretty much want to pull out your own hair by the end of it, but you still get it done because that's what I noticed, too. Like we could be screaming at each other. Me and my, like my teammates are my uh group I'm in, but we somehow still finish it just shy of going insane.


So the the excuse that a raid finder would wouldn't work just doesn't really fit.


Yeah, definitely. That's not a great one. But yeah, thanks for talking about the way. It was really, it was really nice to talk to you.


let's talk to you to have we finished our 25?


Yeah. Well, 25. It's like 27, right? That


well, have a good day.


you, too.


Oh. Uh huh. Barbie yeah. Mhm Okay. Oh. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. True. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. That is going on. Mhm. It was a mistake. Mhm Oh. Mhm, mm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Mhm. Mhm Yeah. Work. Mhm. Mhm Yeah.


Hello.


Hello?


I meant to be here sooner. I was just looking at some clips.


I know you're, are you?


I'm doing all right


No.


for the most nice. Yeah. Yeah.


Going on.


I was reviewing some of the clips from my channel earlier.


Hey? Yeah, You have a channel.


I'm going to decided to take like 38 clips today of me shooting people on the nether regions.


Oh my, what do you do?


Apparently I have a bad bad reflex to go to the ground and shoot them there. So yeah. Anyways, that's my gaming experience for the day.


Yeah. I mean generally, I don't think anyone would want to be shot in that area, so uh


Well I have this button that is a clutch button on my mouse. That makes me basically go to my knees or slide. And I have a habit of actually hitting that around corners. And I just kept shooting people and it's like again


Quite the fortuitous button to have.


After about the 20th one today they're like we need a counter for that.


I mean, yeah,


Okay.


it


I turned


seems.


the corner and shot to their including the teammates. They were all just around the corner. I don't know. I'm trying to find that one. Yeah. So that's what I was doing. That's why I was slightly late,


I see. I mean personally if I were to occur more than five times I'd be slightly suspicious as well be And like one or two times maybe, but like five, like 20 like, come on.


it's just, I don't know what the hell is just the


This.


whole day. It was ended up with me just doing that and it's like, I'm not even trying to uh huh I promise I'm not a professional at that, they're here,


I'm not sure how I feel about that.


it makes you feel any better. I was aiming at one person over a teammate said, and he decided to jump right in front of me, A friend of mine and I shot him in the ass and killed him and the other guy,


Yeah. Okay. It's like a two for one deal I


I


guess


was like, get a jumping jack ass,


to fair right there. I can't really complain about that one.


Uh so yeah, uh yeah, so that's been my day, pretty much


What game was it?


Call of Duty, Modern Warfare.


And I see basically that a little bit, but I've never been a huge kind of like multi player in God games. Bit too,


Yeah, he hadn't played in a while, he was playing


you


hardcore


know.


with me for the first time today. And every time he would turn around he was there and I shot him like so many times today, he was like, what's going on? I don't know. One time I turned the corner and I've just seen someone jumping around like a jackass, I turned around and shot him and it was uh that's a good jumping jacket. Yeah, I don't know. Every time I turned the corner I was shooting at him and I don't know why. It was like, he was always there at one point, he was looking out the window and I shot up there and I almost shot you again. It's like, I don't I don't know. Apparently he's a magnet for my bullets.


I see. Well, I mean,


open it.


mystery just


So


activated. Sorry, Coming rough.


what kind of games do you play then? Normally you need?


Normally, um I don't know since school started, I even had as much time, but before that I played like a lot of league.


What? Uh


and I also played a lot. I'm playing right now a lot of attention and she's like,


yeah, a lot of people are getting into that one. Mhm


is really, it's very,


Me


it makes me want to bust out my wallet a lot. But I'm resisting. Yeah. But other than that they just play some random games on steam. Not too many. Uh huh. Yeah, that's about it. I don't really play first person shooters anymore. Well, I haven't found a good one I really like recently, so


yeah, there's not a whole lot of right. I mean there's a lot on out but there's not a whole lot of variety. Everybody's doing the battle royal thing these days.


not a fan of those. I they


Yeah. I don't like Battle Royale.


it's


Look that. Yeah.


a very much especially with like, I don't I don't know, like to me it's kind of jarring to play with like literally like 12 and 11 year olds. Like they're actually the majority and it's kind of weird.


What's weird to me is how people enjoy drop it into a map that's really huge, running 10 minutes across it, dying and then going, Okay let's do that again.


Yeah, I suppose.


It's like seriously? You spent all that time getting gear and weapons and stuff and you die and you just wanted to do it again. You know what? I could have done that in 10 minutes. I could have gotten killed probably about 20 times in the multi player and had fun.


Exactly. Yeah, I can


She's


see you coming from a better way. I was not


I don't like the single death crap just Yeah.


I was a huge because like when I was younger, I would always play like the I always played Minecraft and to me that was like the coolest thing. And then when I grew up


my


I was like,


that's


what


still


am I


pretty big.


doing? Yeah, I know, I noticed that. I was surprised.


It's still one of the top games out there and it's freaking nuts. Then again it's probably cause there's so many mods out there and so on. I can't play the game. It makes me feel nauseous and gives me a headache and hurts my eyes probably


Career


that's blocking nature and narrow field of view and so on.


Oh, I see. Huh? That's weird. Yeah. Yeah, because one of my friends has motion sickness so he can't play like cod and stuff like that because it's just like so fast


I can't


paced.


play like Fallout three or any like elder scrolls game because that makes me nauseous. Yeah.


Do


I


you know


don't


know


it


what


is


about


is about


them?


those specifically, but those games made on that engine somehow


So


make me feel sick.


it's just like Bethesda games in general or like just in Merano? Uh


That I don't take well to


What?


open World anyhow because I get overwhelmed cause there's too much going on and I need more sense of direction I guess


Yeah, that's true. Open World Games there. They just


overly


kind of


inflated


let you go.


these days. Yeah. Almost everybody thinks they need to do open world and it's like let's go back to a little more structure.


Yeah. Some games are certainly going there when they don't really don't need to. Um I don't know. I I like there are games like, I guess like witcher that I think do it pretty well. Just because like, I don't know their


Well


worlds are so


RPGS


fun.


almost fit that mold more. But there's like, I don't know, not even all those need to be open world, honestly.


I think so. Yeah, Maybe.


Which are three though. That was a beast of a game. I never even played it very much, but from I understand there was a beast of a game better but


Yeah. I think it's still because on steam, they're like very rarely games are like really popular games have overwhelmingly positive ratings, I think. Which is still has that


Well, 2077 was just coming out to


Yeah, I got delayed what, like three times now. Sure.


then the World Warcraft expansion is about to hit next week as well.


Oh yeah, my my friends love well, but I could never get into, well, I don't


I


know, I think


played


it's too


off


retro.


and on since the alpha, the problem is that they destroyed the lore along the way and destroyed a lot of what made the original game so great along the way, they added some a lot of improvements and stuff, but they overdid something's made stupid decisions elsewhere and refused to apologize for any of it by the way. Yeah.


Yeah, Blizzards been taking a lot of heat for that. I know with hearthstone, they've also done some things to piss a lot of people off


Yes, especially. Well now they've also removed its focus and core linking toward Warcraft and Warcraft


nicely.


Lore in general. And they're opening up more to generalist stuff and that's a mixed bag seen it was called Her Stone and as kind of was deeply made as a wild card game whereas a Warcraft card game, so I never


Well,


did get to lead though.


yeah, I I can understand that. I know of people who are like, it's just like so vastly different from a lot of like popular genres. It's kind of like just weird.


I just don't like to click click click crap.


I don't know, I found the leak fun. I don't know why. Maybe it's because it was one of the first games I was exposed to, so I didn't really have much experience with other genres I guess. But yeah, leak. I


have


likely,


you played Smite?


yeah, I place my hand far too small now.


I like Smite but the players are atrocious. Yeah


very


they


small


give up


community


at the first


now.


sign of trouble. Like I'm out vote, vote to forfeit.


I think it's so funny. It's like the easiest to tell people, you just say like one thing and they're all just like that's it.


And then they don't know when to pull back there playing it like a shooter, they don't know when to recall, they don't know when to push and then it ends up being a what the hell are we doing kind of game? Yeah.


You know, I place my very rarely I only play with like when I know I have like for other people to play with, which doesn't happen very


don't


often.


play with Brando's. Oh no. Mm.


Yeah. The puppies


Which


are


is


kind


sadly


of


all I normally play with. I literally was playing the joust game mode with a single lane and two of them were in the jungle, two of them were constantly in the jungle, leaving me to die in the single lane repeatedly. Now mind you only one should be in the jungle Out of three on 3. It's like what are you guys doing over there?


Yeah. People people people and like especially mobius I guess they just really want to be the one to like do it all. So when two people like that


You


aren't


know what


the


I


same


want to be


thing.


the one that survives and wins? Yeah.


Yeah. I mean whatever, some people just aren't team players still could eventually, they'll find getting too hard. Like I never win. Like I don't know why but I


that's


never


basically


win.


that's basically my kate. Because what happens is I get teamed up with these people repeatedly and I lose and my score goes so negative that they keep putting me with more crappy people and then I keep losing. It's a vicious cycle, I can't get out but I'm going to cry. Yeah


Uh They probably won't ever fix that, but there's the hope I guess.


how can you fix the player base that it's kind of a big green thing. You


Especially.


either visually start playing with the people that know what they're doing. So you get that rank up and get out of that or you just keep going into the vicious cycle.


Yeah. I don't, I don't think the player basis to largest right now. You see


It's


it,


it's a pretty fairly large game. So it's cross platform on all major platforms now.


they made a cross platform. That's


Yeah, all Nintendo Playstation, Xbox and PC all play together now.


Oh. Well, I didn't realize.


So it's it's that paladins is doing pretty well.


Oh yeah. Almost 20,000 players.


I said it's pretty decent size still.


Yeah. How well they do? They did A T. M. And teeth collab What?


it said


with


they're


it? I'm sorry.


doing pretty damn well honestly


Yeah. Maybe I'll get back into it at some point.


right. Just just make sure to bring friends. Just don't play the Randolph.


Even with league, which I think is like somewhat decent at like I, I can't play it with random people there just to the to toxic that you brainless. Like they just, uh, it


Sometimes


makes my skin


you wonder


curl.


if a monkey could play the game better.


I know it really is like that. Sometimes the, these people


can


are,


I have a monkey on the other side please? One monkey please. I'll order one monkey. No, I need to. Sorry to Okay.


Honestly, they should do a study on that sometimes. See if they can put teach monkeys to play mill booze.


Oh my God, don't give them any ideas. I mean they


I


already


am


had


like,


they already had a bulk of people playing Pokemon on twitter before. Yeah.


yeah.


Put twitch plays Pokemon, you haven't heard of that?


It's where the chat plays it, right?


Yeah, but it's like, it was so stupid that they actually beat like several of them now


Yeah. There was,


and they're still


hey,


doing it.


are they still doing? I haven't been following


They


Pokemon


each


muk.


new one that comes out they're going to do Yeah.


Yeah, I can't imagine just like that one guy that stays there 24/7 just spamming like left, left, left, left, left, left. I can't


It's


imagine.


mostly experimentation at


Listen


its worst.


God how I envy


I would


people.


not want to sit there in that chat for any length of time watching those commands and a computer trying to calculate which way to actually go right while the character is just doing this kind of number, like caesar, like stuff.


Yeah. Let's see.


I, you looked up and looked it up on wicked the other day and I didn't know they did more than one, but apparently they're going all the way through them.


the entire Pokemon franchise, jesus christ.


Yes. There whoever is running as dedicated.


Let's see. How many have they beat. Oh my God,


Yeah, that's why I say there's people


what?


dedicated to


Well


that


dude, two, it started in 2014.


and they've already gotten that far, which is shocking.


Season. The season season seven. Okay. In the world. I think the completion times are okay. Like this. Okay. This is kind of sad. Two.


I know. I like to that just the other day you're probably looking at the Wikipedia entry and it's like it's messed up.


50 weeks okay with it.


It's like okay, that took an entire year. We're done. Oh,


played the game for 50 weeks straight.


You know, saddest people playing the game for 50 weeks probably still haven't beat it. And these guys that are just left left, left, left left are beating it somehow. Yeah. Like what?


I wonder if it's asleep. Just like the old guard now the veteran guard


I don't know, but there's


are


an inherent, there's an inherent delay to these streams to So they'd be saying left when they need to go right.


Yeah. Mhm. Let's see.


I don't know how long anyone can sit there and not lose her sanity watching that at attempt to be played. Yeah.


Yeah. Oh my God, the channels live right now.


Yeah. They're probably doing one right now.


Yeah, the cyberpunk at two, I don't know if I'll buy cyberpunk. It seems very overhyped will not overhyped since it's not


Well


out


the company


yet. But


has a big good pedigree though is


that is


why


true. Witcher was I believe like delayed


that


three


company


times


has


as well,


not put


so.


out a dud yet basically. So


Go.


I'd be shocked if this one became a dud when they're so focused on quality and that's why it's getting such high because it's the next game and series out


All


of a company known to put out nothing. But basically blockbusters.


Mhm. Once released


I mean when they


it something


game, they don't release too many of them. When they released one, it's done well each time.


yeah, projects through it. Yeah. Actually, I played some of Because I wasn't that into the Witcher franchise, I played like Witcher three, but I could never get into the other witcher games.


There's a lot of lure there to


it's


be had


let's crp


and the first one saw her cake and everybody's like play through the first one


Happy.


so you can know the story and then other people like you don't really have to and it's like, yeah, and then it's like why don't they re master the first one in like the second or third engine so you can actually play the damn thing and enjoy it somewhat


Yeah, I don't,


great.


my friend is really into retro games so I can't stand like the old timey graphics.


I'm a collector, I have all that crap and I play them


Thanks.


still too, so


Oh my God, I don't I don't know, I can't get accustomed to it.


well,


I play


I can probably, I don't know, it might depend on how old you are too in terms of that. Um if you grew up with it or not, that


french


kind of thing,


Yeah, I played with Lake when I was a young guy.


lot of the lot of the indie games are even going to that styles that might tell you something on that, not only is it cheaper to produce, you can make better graphics than back in the day and it's a lot of people just like that nostalgic vibe.


Yeah. Uh it's been noticing Nintendo has been re mastering a lot of their games early, supporting


What what's


them with,


what's


which


frustrating me is, I don't even have a Nintendo switch because they're so exorbitantly priced right now, but they have that Battle Royale mode of uh Mario brothers right now um Super Mario 25 or something to call it, and they're going to discontinue it early next year, you're giving away for free and it's a battle Royale mode of the game, which actually somebody else had done previously and then you know how to them shut it down and now the Nintendo is doing it and they're going to just shut it down. It's like, why would you even do that? You put the money into my investment and making this, you gave it away for free, Players are enjoying it and you're just gonna pull the plug.


that is kind of strange.


I mean, they already announcement came out that they weren't going to have it around forever and it's like if people are liking to let them play it,


Yeah, why would


maybe


they do?


sell some skins or bonuses or something. But I mean you already put the time and money into what's going to hurt to let them play it because I wouldn't mind playing it. I just don't have a switch right now. by the time I probably would end up maybe even having a chance at anyone, it'll be gone.


Yeah, you can do, how much are they currently like?


They were gone for like four or 500 right now.


4, 500?


They're having trouble importing enough and producing enough right now to do Covid


I see. Oh dear. Yeah. Damn


unless you want the light and anybody that buys the light deserves to be screwed over because those joycons and controllers keep breaking you by the light and the controllers are built in and you can't remove the controllers. Yeah, that's not a good idea. They're


I


notorious


was able to get


for breaking,


done


I wouldn't buy one with them attached, I just wouldn't Mhm.


Yeah, that makes sense. I've been I've been looking to buy like I don't know, I really, I was thinking about getting a VR kind of deal but I'm not sure


I think


how I feel


that's


about


just


it.


a fad that's Mhm. Going away quicker than it came upon us.


You think so? I think there is pretty cool.


Well, there's certain applications where it be cool, but I don't think gaming is there another thing gaming will be until Probably another 10, 20 years? Because even if you have that on your head there's not much more to in mercy right now and I don't just for gaming I don't think it's great. I mean they did that Chernobyl um document documentary where you could walk through Chernobyl that's cool. Those kinds of things are cool but game and I just don't think it's quite intended for it. Not only does it make people nauseous, the frame rates


Good.


and the amount of power it takes to do it still is quite high.


yeah, maybe, I don't know, I tried it out


I've


once


had people


and I found


swear


it


by though but it's just like yeah you're swearing by and you love it so much. Why are you


what?


playing the regular version of that game? And has VR I've seen people playing regular versions of games that have er and I'm going why why if you swear by that it's better while you're not playing it then


mm. I haven't owned one myself, but I did try it quite a bit at my friend's house and I found


never tried


fun.


it but it's just I don't know. Then again I have to look at the old Nintendo virtual boy and it's like yeah let me let me not do that. Yeah let's go to the red and black screen again and say that's virtual reality. They


boy.


had maybe maybe 20 some games on that system.


Let's let's do that again.


some games. Yeah, I briefly heard about that and I kind of got snuffed out and I was like, what happened? But


It was like a boy kept going. They thought this is gonna be the next big thing. It's like how can you think putting that big bulky thing in your head and you can't even scrap it to your head? Put the big bulky thing in your head, you and those kind of numbers. Yeah. How could you think that's normal to look at the red and black screen that close to your eyeballs, not even color. I mean come on. Just Nintendo. Why weren't you smarter? Yeah.


Yeah. I feel like some big companies are sometimes just so like, like they're so the common sense department was just not there guys like


Well


this.


the


This


U.


is just


stupid.


S. Told them not to do it and to know us did Nintendo. Japan because the guy that created the virtual boy created the game boy, they put too much faith in his ability to get a good system out that they went with it anyways


They say


and so it hit market and just imploded. Mhm.


so. No one's still like bothered just to check like there's a small consumer test maybe.


Yeah. No it was like let's let's release this worldwide and see it just flopped like a flailing fish.


Yeah. That's a lot of faith to put into one man.


Yeah I think he actually stepped down and resigned out of like honor or something after that. My understanding it hit him hard because of the failure.


Mhm. Yeah. God, that's unfortunate. But


I mean he created one of the greatest portable systems of all time of the game boy and I think they just put too much on him and too much faith in that and I don't blame him so much as them for one not having any oversight apparently. And two for pushing technology out. That wasn't ready. I mean as well ahead of its time and it wasn't ready. I mean Sega had a virtual reality system at the time but there's was actually halfway decent even though it didn't do anything. But they still had one that was better than that.


Yeah. Mm. All right now.


Amy history man. There's a lot of crap there. Right. Mhm.


Mm hmm.


Yeah.


We already consider getting a VR set, but I think I'll still


I don't


think


know. I mean


of it.


if you want you try and you like it then it might be something for you. But I just don't see very many things coming out for it and the ones I have seen haven't been very impressive personally. But


Yeah, Maybe we'll see for the future. I guess.


um personally if I was to get


What?


one I'd wait for further down the line when the hardware gets way better and the computers can power it better because still modern systems are having trouble struggling to give up power. Okay. Sorry.


No, it's fine. Yeah, fortunately I was able to build a fairly decent PC last year, so fingers crossed.


yeah my my computers from 2013


I see.


so


Yeah, it's upgrade from like 2013 as well.


but


That's right.


I'm also using a computer in a different state remotely for gaming


You're


and screaming


using cloud gaming is. I see. Yeah.


It's cheap and it's running an equivalent to 1080 in it which um it was supposed to be this year but because of Covid and hey it's 2020 let's have to delay it. But it was supposed to be upgraded to 2080 equivalent but that's not going to have until early next year now. No


Covid just screwed a lot of things up.


this whole year can just go to freaking hell


Yeah. Well, on


shift.


that now. Um, I think it's time to say farewell.


Okay. All right. Well I think we've uh gone about to the gutters that we can go to So I hope you have a good one. Take care.


Yeah. You too. Pleasure


All


meeting you.


I would say Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every time. Mhm. Okay. I think that's yeah. Mhm. Okay. Hi.


Hi, I can


No,


see you. Can you see me


I can hold on. I am going to maximize my window and I am going to turn off the sound on my phone.


much? All right. I'll do the same. Doesn't usually make much noise, but just in case. So I'm molly


I'm abby, it's nice to meet you.


nice to meet you


This


too.


is the second time I'm doing this. Have you done this before?


I haven't no.


I met someone really cool and interesting the last time. Which is why I decided to do it again.


Well you you may be disappointed.


Good. I think everybody is interesting as long as they're talking about something that they're interested in,


All right, okay. What are you interested in?


I'm interested in a lot of different things. Um Like some are just normal like tv and movies and books and some are really weird like uh pre modern biological and chemical warfare like like stuff like greek fire and and like plague bodies and stuff like that. I read a book about it. It was really cool.


That is really interesting. That's really interesting.


I read afterwards that some of the contemporaries of that author didn't necessarily find the book to be all that academically accurate but it was a really cool read and I wasn't doing it for academics. Yeah.


It's not something you might fight in a paper, but definitely a good story.


Yeah. I watched a lot of documentaries I find like finding out new things to be really interesting.


Me too. Me too. I listen to a lot of informational podcast. No, watch documentaries all that much. But I love learning new things.


Well so what types of things are you interested in?


These things managed to also some fairly normal stuff like thanks and biographies. Mostly. I have a fairly eclectic collection of biographies and interest. I have. I have sports hobbies. Mostly my husband and I are triathlete, so


That's really cool. I


All right.


have no sports abilities whatsoever. I used to fence in high school but like I am the clumsiest person ever.


Yes. Yes. I was destined for clumsiness. I'm obviously you can't tell him sitting down, but I'm about six ft two. So um clumsiness was always in my deck. So at like age eight, mom said you're going to ballet class, I don't care if you're good, but you have to learn to control your body and they didn't.


I


I have


found that taking tai chi classes helped me somewhat but there are no more tight. Like I don't mean like since the pandemic started but I mean like for the past several years there haven't been tai chi classes around where I live. So I am back to being clumsy. Yeah.


Right,


I didn't get far enough in it where I could do it by myself So


Yeah, mm seems like something that might have moved online.


maybe I could see, I know that there were pre pandemic tai chi classes through my local library, but they always got filled up really quickly because you have to sign up for them. Mhm.


interesting. I'm


Chris


sorry my cat is biting my toes, I'm just gonna put her outside real quick. So that the letter,


My cats right here too.


uh huh Do you want to meet at his cab? Mm goodbye, Everybody's training you? Yeah. Uh huh Uh huh Sorry.


Yeah. My cat, my cat is like, right, like if you see my hand, she's like right here. Mhm.


yeah, my cat is not much for cuddling, she's still fairly feisty,


How


so


old is she?


about a year and a half. Yeah. Yes,


my cat wasn't really that much of a cuddler until she got to be around five. Um She's nine now until then if she wanted to be like snugly, she'd sit like next to me, she wouldn't really sit on my lap until she was at least five. Um But my cat is also abusive. Like if she wants something like if I'm sleeping, she's only abusive when I'm sleeping, but if I'm sleeping and she wants something, she will actually smack me in the face.


Mhm. No, like that's


And she um she's like really super Polydor Actel and she's going to be not happy about this, but okay, like if you see the size of her paw and she has, she has a nail that comes out of the bottom of her pa so like she'll actually smack me and like she always smacks me with the one that has the nail at the bottom of her pa. Yeah.


It's like turning your ring inside out before you smack someone in the face.


Yeah. And then um if that doesn't work, I almost always sleep on the side, she'll take two of her nails and put it in my nostril and like pull my head.


uh huh Yeah, that'll wake you up. Yeah.


No,


Oh my stars.


she is very determined. She


couple


has


of weeks.


to go to the vet soon. It's time for her annual, there's nothing wrong with her and she doesn't even need shots or anything, she just has to go,


Think


well that's different.


we had our police shot scheduled for like the day the office decided to close for the, you know pandemic. And they were like, I don't know, just bring her in later. Okay.


Yeah.


She'll probably be fine. Yeah.


Well, my vet offices doing is um, they're just having the pet owners wait in their cars and they're bringing the pets in and then um after they've done their check up there calling the pet owners and talking to them over the phone about their pets and so they're bringing the pets to and from the car. So that way, because I mean you don't have to worry about getting coronavirus from the animals, so that way. Yeah. Yeah. Well,


I did


I mean,


read


I mean, well, I mean coronavirus, you don't have to like, unless you're dog or cat has a cold, you know, like you're not exactly breathing in the same space as the dog or cat. For the most part when you're checking them up,


That's true.


check


I


you hell out.


do tend to like wash my hands after she sneezes on me, so it's probably fine.


Well, I just, I just actually broke my rule, so I'm going to have to be very careful for the duration of this phone call because I'm actually allergic to cats. But I but with the exception of like, getting like itchy eyes and stuff, I've become accustomed to individual cats because I get


Well,


I get like the the like stuffy nose, breathing problems, kind of allergies from cats. But if I'm used to certain cats like my cat, those don't bother me, but I'll still get really itchy eyes if I had my cat and then touch my face. So usually I have a cat hand and a not cat hand. But when I was showing you her paw, I used both my hands. So


No,


I'm going to have to wash my hands after this call and make sure to remember, do not touch my face in between. If you, if you see me happened to go from my face, please remind me.


hopefully the lag won't be so bad in the connection that it'll I'll actually catch you in time.


Yeah, I I don't really notice much of a leg.


No, but you never know.


Yeah. You never know.


Yeah. Mhm. So we, we we got right into interesting things but like where do you live?


I live in upstate new york in Albany.


Really? Okay. My my my dad is from upstate new york near Rome Carthage. There's a military base up there.


Yeah, it's a it's a little bit south of here. I think Albanese like the halfway point, so upstate new york is usually like Upstate New York is like anything above one county above New York City.


Yeah, we've


Or


been after,


or if you live in new york city, Anything above one count. If you live in new york city, anything above new york city is upstate new york and then once you're one county up it's Canada. Yeah.


A C A C I think he said they were pretty close to Canada, but it


then maybe they're one of the northern ones. I I could be wrong.


me too. I am I'm from the other side of these United States. I live in Arkansas. Yeah. Yes, it's warm here.


it's been pretty warm here lately too. I feel bad for my cat because she's a long heard black cat two. But


cat really likes being outside, so we take her out quite a bit, but um she's a long hair too. But I think they I think they just kind of adapt like


Yeah, it's just that mine because she's black, she absorbs all of the heat from the sun and said she doesn't reflect much of it.


Yeah, makes sense. Yes.


Yeah. Mhm.


Uh huh.


But yeah,


Does she have a name?


her name is Takahashi. Yeah,


that is unique.


it's actually japanese for hands and feet, because when I got her, I got her with my roommate who is half japanese and he named her, Yeah, I personally would not name a cat, a japanese name because that would be cultural appropriation, but a Japanese person dance like a japanese name. So, and I wasn't going to change her name once. He, he was no longer, you know, she was no longer his cat.


Well,


What?


I was going to harshly critique you but I guess I will not. You get a pass.


but the name is appropriate because she does have like, you couldn't see it very well from the picture because it's also hard because she's black, but but she's like Got like nine toes on each of her front feet. So like when you look at her paws, her pa looks kind of like this. Yeah, it looks like when when you look at her pot, it looks like she is a paw growing off of her paw. Yeah, because


Nick


because a bunch of the extra toes are off of the side toe, not the main four


it.


toes.


Mhm. Yeah. Is she are their cats that are like that or is she?


Well, I mean, I mean it's very common


Hi.


for cats to have extra toes, it's not common for cats to have as many extra toes as my cat does.


Hello. I was thinking, but yes, I wonder if they're useful in any way.


Oh, they're very not useful. Like, they hinder her balance a lot, like she's afraid of heights, she won't like um I'm sitting at my parents house right now because um I'm in the process of moving into my new house and at my parents house, there are certain counters in the kitchen, she will jump on and certain councils she won't jump on because um like the kitchen island, their stools there so she can jump on the stool and then jump on the island, but other counters there aren't and you have to jump straight onto the counter and she doesn't go on the counters where you have to jump straight onto the counter because it's too big of a jump for her, and she's worried about landing. So one thing that I've been very aware of in setting up my new house is making it very friendly for her for her to have different places of different heights that she can reach with her limited jumping facility,


Interest very considerate.


because because she likes heights, she just wants to make sure that she can get there and get back and


Right, that makes sense. Thanks. Yeah


okay,


we also just moved I think we've been here a couple of months but in our old apartment our cat was able to open the bottom cabinets in our kitchen so we had to childproof them et cetera here. We thought ok, we'll childproof all of the bottom cabinets. It'll be fine. She can open these drawers and she can get on our counters and open our top cabinet it if I don't even know how she knows that cabinets open. Like


cats are very smart and observant and


let's


and


be


when and when you're not doing what they want or they're bored, they just decide that they're going to be a pain in the ass until you're doing what they want or you're entertaining them because see it's not your apartment, it's your cats apartment and you're just there as there as her slave.


she was not happy when we started working


Hey.


from home full time. She was like this you're here all the time. Go away, that's my napping spot and you're sitting in it. Keep


See my cat doesn't isn't like a total cuddle buddy, but she likes being around people. So she likes at least being in a room with people. So she likes when people are home all the time. I remember in one apartment, um I had these really, really big windows. There were like three ft by three ft and it was summer and I had the window open and I drove home and unfortunately the nighttime and she's a black cat, you couldn't, the pictures did not really come out. But when I came home I parked and she was stuck spread eagle on the window because


How?


her nails were stuck in the screen because like she saw


thanks.


me drive up because she recognized the sound of my car and my apartment was um right next to the front steps of the building, and like parking was just right in the front of the building, it was street parking right in the front of the building and there was always ample street parking there. So I pulled up and she heard me and she just ran and she she got stuck. It


No.


was the funniest thing, I mean of course like I ran in and I got her down so she wasn't up there for more than like a minute. But it was so funny. Yeah,


huh.


she was like her home.


Yeah. Yes. Oh man. Oh that's funny. Mhm. I'm imagining like full arms out legs out attached to the screen right here.


and a big fluffy tail, like wagging back and forth, frantically. Give me down, get down, get down, get me down, I'm not happy hey. And very, very loud crying.


Uh huh We're fortunate she's not allowed. Cat is very quiet. I have a friend who's cat is very very loud. Yeah replace pretty quiet.


Certain cats are more vocal than others.


She talks a lot like when we first get up in the morning and she's like she's very chirpy. Didn't hear me talking about her. Yes you I'm sorry but she should


It's


never like


I don't mind if you talk to her in front of me


she just like stopped what she was doing and turned to look at me when I was describing her tripping. He was like anybody but she she's not like good cat Rachel.


to be Yeah, my cut is I don't necessarily understand all the time when my cat talks because like, usually, like if you think about like a baby when a baby cries, it wants something, it's either hungry or it's tired or it wants to be held or it needs a diaper change or like it's in a situation it doesn't want to be in, you know, and it's anxious or like it can feel like that you're anxious, you know, something like that. She can have a full football that I just felt fresh water start yelling like crazy. I could have also have just changed her litter And I'll go up to her to like pet her and she'll like run away like five ft and then she'll continue now. So obviously she doesn't want me to like pet her anything. So I'm like, I don't know what you want from me, like I don't speak cat, I'm really sorry, but like, I don't know what else to do. And she's not like an interactive cat toy person, she's only like a play by yourself. Cat toy person. So like if you have one of those like feather on a string things, she won't bother. But like if you give her like a few like balls or like stuffed toys, she'll play with them when she feels like playing. So like even if I were to like take one of her toys and like toss it to her, she just like looked at it and be like, I didn't say it was playtime, and so I have no idea, but like she but she mows for my parents for food because my parents give their cats wet food in addition to dry food. Um which I don't give her because she has a sensitive digestive system and she should not be eating the wet food, but she does. Um But it's not as bad as it could be, Like it took me, she's really small, she's only like £8,, she looks a lot bigger than she does because she's like offer. Um But it's because her growth was stunted because it took like a year to find a food that she didn't that that like she could tolerate and she's still at £8 eats more than both. My parents cats in a day, and my parents cats are 16 and £17. She goes through more food today than both of them combined um just because it goes through her system so quickly. Um But I do not give her hands like, as a policy because when we move, I'm not going to be giving her cans, so sometimes I can't sit for my parents, and when I do that, I do not give any of the cat scans because they don't need cans, it's like a treat for them. They eat the dry food. Um And so my parents are like, can you give them food? And I'll be like, they have food, and they're like, no, it can't, I'm like, no, I'm not setting a precedent where they get cans for me, because if they see me give a can once they'll expect it again, and that's not happening. Yeah,


they're smart that way they are Right,


well, But she


wakes my dad up at like 5:00 AM every morning. It's her, it's not the other cats, it's her. But like, he was giving the cat's food at five in the morning, I'm like, why did you decide five in the morning was a good time to give the cat's food. You acclimated her to 5:00 AM, and now she'll me out at you until you get up, and well she doesn't smack my mom around, she'll smack him around.


For a long time when Ripley was a kitten she got used to us getting up at a certain time and then on the weekends obviously we did not get up at that time. Um And she very rarely did it to me because I think she loves me more but she would lay on my husband's chest and pull out one claw and just tap on his lip like good morning it's time to play with me. Get up, I'm awake you should be a wake. Mhm.


I don't know which cat did it, but one of the cats did something like that to my dad and he actually got an infection that he needed, like special antibiotics for, because it was like a zoonotic infection.


Thanks. Yeah.


Yeah, I mean the infection itself wasn't bad, but like, it wasn't like a normal infection that people get because like, it was an infection from cat.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that's the only thing that worries me about letting her play outside. I mean she's on a leash so we don't let her kill anything but usually if cats are inside they just don't have access to very many things that we don't have access to L Duckett right 2015 but when she goes outside I don't know I guess there are bugs in the house and stuff. Not a lot but they could bring in drinks. I'm


See


the first time pet owner, I don't know very many things.


Yes, she's my first cat too, but I've had her for so long that, you know, I figured stuff out. Um And I had pets growing up too, so um But see that's another thing my parents are like trying to delay me moving out because like their cats are lazy and my cat is a mouser


Ooh,


because they get mice in their basement um that somehow gets through from like the garage or something and and she is a good hunter and and they don't they don't want to give that up and I'm like you get your own Tadashi, this one's mine, but like she's going to be sad because the new house doesn't have any mice in it. But I could do what I did in one of my old apartments which was go to the pet store and get like half a dozen feeder crickets and just like go into like the living room, which is like the biggest room in the house and let them out one at a time. So she can go hunting the cricket. She really liked that. And because it's a feeder cricket, you know that it doesn't have any like diseases


marked.


and proteins, protein. I


And


mean


it's it's


you kind of feel bad for the cricket, but if it doesn't get eaten by her it's just gonna get eaten by some other pet anyway. So.


it's not the worst insect to release into your house if you know she doesn't catch it. Not like a spider or something.


Yeah. And even if even if all of the crickets got let out, it's not like you can get a cricket infestation, don't just


I don't


die


think


eventually.


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