to like, I repeat you in that. I did company science some semesters ago and I was like, okay, this is like a whole new world to me, like what's going on? I was kind of like kind of like what's going on there for us, then I have to like watch Youtube videos when I want to do piping and I know the kind of things because I wasn't really getting more, my teacher was trying to tell me everything like that, so I was like, no, I can't just waste my money. I'm paying for this thing. I gotta like glenn out to do other things myself. So I decided to like just sit down, just watch the videos, try to understand and do some other things, although I'm not really the best guy at it, but I'll try my best to try and it's pretty


It's one of those things that doesn't make any sense until it clicks and when it clicks it's just like, oh it all falls into place and that's,


That's


I mean that's how physics


it.


was for me too. I was like when physics finally like made sense, I was like, oh everything


that's the


makes


way


sense now


I feel about physics and maths and I feel like that's the


purpose


joy from satisfaction I get from, you know my name. That oh, this is the way the thing is, you know, that's how it's supposed to be. All, that's why this is this, that's why I pretty much love it. Like for others, I pretty much I'm like, okay, you know, I don't really care about physical matchup, like, wow, that's pretty cool, you know? Although I feel like others like biology, I'm not really good about it, but anthropologie my uncle told me it's no biologist, pretty much basically just life, you know, everything you see around you, apology, you know? But I feel like physics, I feel like everything is the same thing. Physics as well. Everything around you, there's a physics the same with max, you know, you did with everything like that. So, you know, although I'm not really good at biology, biophysics is just pretty sweet and interesting and at the point that


well and physics explains


what's going


so much


on


about just like what you have to like go through on a day to day life, just like as people like in existence, like all the things that happen around us, obviously like everything is applied physics, every single thing is applied physics and I never get over. That blew my mind.


yeah, probably just tells you why this is this why this that with an equation to it, so that you can pretty much Snowden didn't just come from nowhere. There's something that started it then linked with this this this this to found this. They're like, okay, so this is why the light is going like this, this is why something is working like this, and I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. So yeah, it's pretty, pretty interesting. And so far, I guess hopefully it doesn't go too hard on me when I'm almost done and everything like that because sometimes we almost done. You feel like, you know, it's getting hard and everything like that, but you know, I can put you got it, thanks together. And at that point that, so


what year


how long


are you in


is


school?


the one I'm


It's


currently, I told you right now? Almost my from earlier. I mean, I don't know how to put it. I would say it's my toad here, like it's supposed to be like a five year kind of program instead of four about what you don't spend for. So just like, okay, it's just my 30 years just have like one more to go away. So I don't really say four years or something like that. It's whatever another point. That's how long have people working with this um software engineer.


I graduated two years ago with this december, so I've been working at this company for I guess, almost two years now, so it's pretty crazy. I feel old.


Uh We all feel old at some home, but please,


it's


you know,


so


like


weird because like, I doesn't feel like I graduated, especially because of like the pandemic and everything, it does not feel like I graduated two years ago. It feels like I graduated like six months ago, so I'm just like, no, it's been 10 years.


so and that's what I felt, I just feel like when you're inside you just feel like things are kind of like a little bit slower or something like that. I don't know. Then when you go out you're like, oh everything is, you know, pretty fast, you know, nothing is waiting for your life moves on and everything like that. Something Okay, so how are you doing with coronavirus over like where you at?


So I'm in


Are


Canada Kansas city area, so we're okay. Um I'm in the part of the midwest where there's a lot of people who are very Republican and very like I'm not going to wear a mask, like this isn't real, like you don't know what's


and


happening


I think


and so it's really um interesting to be around it, but for the most part, like the people like I associate with and the people I'm around are all just fine, Like we're all just at home doing nothing. My friends to get together and play cards on zoom every weekend because we don't know what else to do with our lives. So how's


I feel


your college


it.


handling it? Mhm.


man, okay. It could be better to just, you know, because I actually thought it was gonna like be like okay you guys don't have to come for the semester and just stay back where they're like nah no no no you guys are coming back. No weird. And I was like okay let's go back and everything like that. But I was always inside most of the time. Well let's probably go to class. I just come back home and it's like, and I feel like people stick going to bars and everything like that. And then, and the school didn't do anything about it. So it's kind of like shocking. You know, just allowing everybody cases kind of like started going up a little bit. Then the old Illinois, the case is also like going up and everything like that. But they were like, nah, no, you guys are still gonna stay. You know, we're keeping it under control. And I'm like, okay, cool, cool. So I pretty much don't go out at all. But last week I kind of like thought I had the coronavirus because I had like all the symptoms like I was a headache. That is so true, like in high fever kind of everything, But I just found it like, it was acceptable or something like that. No, I was like, oh, cool. Because I thought, because I was like, I don't go out. I don't see anybody. So this is not like my, my, my chances as opposed to like really low for me to get it. But you know, it's whatever. But I'm glad I'm doing okay because last week I was doing entire book, wasn't doing fine at all. But now I'm doing better and I'm just looking forward to the thanksgiving break. That's in like a week or so. So I go back home and my family up some good time. Probably go for like black Fridays. I'm like, I don't know if this is going to be a black friday this year. I know.


I


Probably


don't know. I've heard


online.


that they're not really doing like a lot of stores have already started to try to prevent the crowds


It's


on black


gonna


friday.


be a while or something like that. What what's the problem? I feel like the big ones are still going to do it but


Probably.


some will probably be online. Just shop online and everything like that. Well I I really don't go. This is gonna buy first time ever going to black friday. And I think if there's gonna be one, I don't really go. I just like why why why do you want to go and just run around into car? Somebody push you like what the fuck? You know?


go


like


it's


two places on black friday and that's like home depot because I love like, like I


what?


love building stuff and like doing woodworking projects. So like I'll go and get tools because one people go to pump people in black friday but people people to go to home depot on black friday aren't like the soccer mom who's going to kick people in like karate chop somebody to get to the $2200 tv. Now they're all like yeah this is a $600 tool that's now $400 so I'm just going to wait in line for it and I'm just like, yeah, you guys are my people all hang out here.


true. I don't know. It's it's always different. She like new videos every year. People fighting over my dude. You're notified. Yeah. Fight


It's just


of oil. Yeah. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure those like companies and everything like that they make, you know, sales and everything like that. I appreciate that. That's that's like the root price. It just put like a price on it. I was like, oh, 20% off. You know, it's supposed to be ordinary fund, right? But before on you it's 600 now. Just by now. I just like, okay, thanks buddy. But it's whatever. I guess it's kind of like fun or sometimes because I don't I don't really get the whole idea of being right. It's whatever. And I get to like do thanksgiving dinner with my family up some fun cook for them because I love cooking a lot. I'm

a thing. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah,


cooking is


lou


great. I spend a lot of time cooking.


yeah, I spent a lot of time thinking so I could like twice a week, three times depends on whatever I could. But I must look like like stop that last medical long time because I'm a coach so I can't be cooking like every single day. But so I have to look like something I knew like, okay, just put in the fridge can come back to, you know, just pack it up and eat it again and everything like that. So that's my life. It's my life


When I was in college I cooked on Sundays and then would pack like all my meals for the week,


months


so I would spend all


year.


sunday cooking and then just like pack stuff in the bridge


Church?


lined it up because I just didn't know what else to, like I wasn't gonna cook on afghan school nights at


I


home work.


couldn't buy days because my Saturdays, I just pretty much just sleep all day on Saturdays for some red, just fine. Just find it like, just have like this pleasure, just doing nothing on saturday. Just sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep. So I'm like, do it, you gotta figure out. So I'm like, ok, instead of just sleeping out in the spring, but just kind of probably watch a movie, making a nice break first, you know, watch a movie or something like that. But on Saturdays, I don't do anything my own marks. I didn't do them during the week on Sundays. That's it. Pretty much premature. I


don't


always


like, I'm I'm the busy type


so go ahead.


some, it's okay, I'm like busy during the week, like from morning to like seven, depending on the time, but most of the time always been like money to seven, but after seven o'clock I'm always freezing doing anything. So those times I'm kind of busy during the week, so I kind of like, okay, you know, I have to rest, have to like try to like have some time for myself. I'm like, okay, saturday is just gonna be that day, but just don't do anything. I just pretty much just lay around doing nothing stuff and it's pretty much been okay. Pretty much just gives me, well I mental states a little bit better and it's not like that, so that's, that's something I really value a lot. Hello?


Yeah. I used to, I always think like grand plans for my saturday is like we've been working on remodeling our house and like I'm always like, okay, this saturday I'm going to get these three things done because I've been procrastinating on them forever and then I end up sleeping. So someday my house was depended someday.


no. So yeah, I was always like that, just pretty much want to do something. I'm like, nah, I would, I would like, like it depends. I feel like I do that for causes that I don't really, like when I was like a freshman, like, like the english and the Scots is probably, I have like an O mark. Do you weigh like two weeks? I mean it's just better if we could just do it today because it's something you could probably just do in a day. Well I'm like, nah, we're gonna wait for the weekend, the weekend cause by like next week, next weekend comes back like my day after or before. I'm like, I pretty much just end up doing it like a day before. I'm like, why? Why do I always stress myself? I'm like, you just do it pretty early and everything like that. But I still, I still pretty much on my own market like two days before or something kinda. I never let my lesson hopefully


it's


someday.


okay in four years. I never learned, I never figured it out. Or 4.5, I guess it took me 4.5 to graduate. I never figured it out. I literally, every time I was like, alright, this semester I'm going to buy a pretty agenda and I'm going to like line everything up and I'm going to schedule time that I'm going to do this stuff and it's going to be wonderful and I'm not going to be stressed out. And then I would like go home from class. I'm just like got


probably don't do anything. Just unless I probably have like an exam coming up test then I probably just read um okay, read this, read that ha


Hey.


ha I'm fine. I'm just just call my own day. But you know, college has been fun and it's, I wouldn't trade is better than high school. Um In terms of trivializing a lot of people, I feel like high school is a little better. But in terms of education where I'm trying to like plan something for the colleges more better. I learned more from college and everything like that. And I said I wasn't, I was just, I was just always like, okay, let's go next day, let's please, let's just go wild day because I never approved. It just landed at, in high school. I was


just not.


liked college


It was like


lot


an


more than high school, but I really liked my independence. Like I like not having to, I like moving on my parents, like, I love my family, but I was like, I'm ready to be my own person and like live on my own.


nobody


So


knows


when I got to college,


me.


it was just like privacy.


Yeah, That doesn't mean right now, but me in high school, like I would always sometimes like a break in a short break, long break. I would never be at home. Like I'm going to move, probably going to my grandma's place, my cousin's place, somebody. But I'm never always at home. Like all my music, my middle school year, high school year. I never had time for the other day. So with somewhere else, my mom was like, why, why do you always want to just go somewhere else? I'm like, I don't know. You know, it's just very much I stay with you like the old semester along three months and let me have my old freedom and peace from Youtube. I'm like, okay, just go, I'm like, okay, I'll have fun. You know, we'll come back again to in your semester. Just have fun again. So, so yeah, high school was very fun. Yeah. I was, I played soccer for my school. Um, I was in track and field and I was like, I'm not like the fast food by like this time in there I could go on and on and on and no, no, no, no. And even though sometimes I'll like, just chest abdominal pain, I felt like everyone for like two hours, but I would never get tired. I said like I could go for like another two hours. Like it was like, it was like I was on crack or something. I don't know, I was just like different, I was a different type of human being back then. You know, it's the same thing right now if I go to the gym and I was like a trade me or something like that. I think people just look at the wall, I just look at the direction I just kept running and running and running and running and I feel like I could go forever, but you know, I don't want to like break down my body because I don't know how, oh well nobody's going to keep up with me. I never find that just for, it's pretty much as, you know, I don't get James out that march just for, you know, probably where I eat like a lot and I feel like, oh, we're probably gonna get like a back chain reaction. I know, I don't, I don't want that. So I pretty much just go to the gym just, you know, lose some calories. I never felt like that then that's not eating again. And I'm like, okay shit, let me go back again, let me go back again, Just come back now. So that's me, that's me.

Mhm Yeah. Yeah. Mhm Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh Yeah,


I went


Energy,


to the gym a lot in college, but I didn't, I hated running. I hate, I hate running. I can't run a mile.


Well I won't


I can't hate it. I'm terrible. I'm slow. I'm like, not meant for that, but I like live weight, like weight lifted all the time in college. Like every morning, five a.m. In the gym open. That's where I was. Yeah. I haven't set foot in a gym since I graduated, but I didn't college. I tried.


I mean right now you have to wear your max because my school we have like a chain, so you have to let max to like go to the gym and for the school, but I got to wear masks and running like two miles, you know, for two miles, women max, it's going to be difficult for me to bridge. I never played, so I pretty much just do my gym at the apartment I stay at because we have like a home gym and everything like that, I just do my stuff there and go back home because the same thing because I play soccer for fun on Saturdays or Fridays with my friends, I never plan. So the school is like for you to play soccer on the school field, all the school facilities you have to like your max. And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna be running left and right back in front. You know where my mass is not, it's not gonna be I do for me. So I just stopped going. I stopped going for a while, but hopefully I can go once all my time


Published


before the the and sign up for that. But I don't know, I'll see today if I'm not to be because this message is almost over about like four or five more weeks ago. And before we say by two, this christmas break, then come back again for another semester next year. How far I just want to go with it. I'm tired and really time?


I feel that I was dead. By like your I mean, I was dead when I got to college but like by year three I was like get me out, get me out, get me out, get me out. And then it took me an extra semester to graduate because I changed my major. So like I changed my major like six semesters before I graduated. So I had to like 20


What?


credit hours every semester to graduate. And I was like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever done. I


hate it. I want to die. I regret this. I should have dropped out and got in the army and I was like, yes,


uh that's funny.


so


So if you would want drunk, uh come picture, you know, software engineer right? Is like something else you will be doing right now. Like if you really like doing software engineers, there's something else you would like to do.


I always wanted to be a fighter pilot. If I could be anything, I'd be a fighter pilot.


And more.


I like, I don't know I want to be a fighter pilot for the military but I don't wanna have to go through basic training. I don't want to have to like I just want people to fly the plane just let me fly the plane and go home at the end of the night. No.


I feel like it was also like, so, and that will become like a mechanical engineer. Um it's better. I don't know. It's man right now. I don't know because I'm not getting the job yet. No, but I was wanted to be pilots as well. Although I can still become one though if I probably joined the um, what's it called for us or something like that. Uh I don't know. Maybe baby. I'm still making up my mind probably in


I don't


the


think you ever really have to decide like I think you can just kind of like you can just be a kid forever in like someday you'll just be like, oh yeah, this is my job. I mean like I have friends that graduated with me in 2018 that are already going back and getting a second degree because they're like, you know, I thought I like that but I don't I actually want to do this. So at least there's always that


Yeah, I mean that's, that's the thing about life. You know, there's always like another child for you too decide what you like. You know, even if you tell you it doesn't matter as long as you kind of like know what you're doing. Kind of like know that okay, this is not for me, you know, I just want to go back do what I kind of like enjoy a little bit because you don't want to do something you don't pretty much like, you know, because you want to have like this kind of joyful you're doing even though it's gonna distress with most jobs our jobs are stressful. But as long as you how can I have like two compassion for it? Like joy for it? It gives you going. It keeps your keeps the drive there and I'm pulling that so that's what that's what like it's pushing me forward like that, you know, physics and everything matter the Detroit. I'm gonna do something beauty, something, make something fantastic, you know? And if it's like that, okay, let's just keep going. Don't go back down. I'm not backing down now. I have a longer to go, so let me just go, go go. So


it


do


eventually


you


calms down.


what is a


I said it eventually calms down.


Yeah. Um actually like that, I don't know, it's whatever, it's whatever. Just move on with it and move my life. So how often do you do? This is just like at the time, bruh?


Like these chat things, I think this is the third one I've done. I don't know, I don't


I think


do it very often.


this is my third one too. I think so. And I think they stopped


It was


like


kind of


wild


fun.


Yeah, it's kind of fun to just meet some random person because I I barely talk to people, so I barely even say hi. I said hi Doper. I barely talked to people that problem. So it's kind of fond of I'm like a view is like oh if I could probably talk to somebody that I don't know, there's a big chance,


And


I could probably just say hi to somebody and just talk. But it's never like that. I'm always like kind of nevers because you know people you know you want to talk to black, I don't have a boyfriend. I'm like I'm not trying I'm


I just wanted to say hi,


not trying to ask you something but you know it's what happened, I


Yeah, people are weird.


don't want to like be ruled to anybody. So like every time I try to like approach a girl or something like that so it's like I don't know what's gonna go. I was gonna say I don't know if I'm gonna be judged because I hate judging people. I don't judge, I don't like judging anybody but you know, people will demand beings like always be here man. You know, they're always pretty much a judge you based on your first impression and never find that and I feel like the first impression doesn't really matter. Well this is like a professional standard where you're trying to get a job or something. It doesn't really matter what it is like relationship friendship because yeah the rest of whatever you guys are gonna have. So it will be based on the first impression is how much the tree too well and everything like that. So I don't know that's the that was my way of thinking but


I mean


that's what


if


man.


everybody were to base their interactions with me up there, like first in person interaction with me, I wouldn't have any friends because I'm


Thank


super awkward


you.


and I'm super shy. But once you can tell me, I'm like, it's just my humor. I'm good with stuff like this. When I meet people in person, I'm like, it's like once I get to know you, it's fine. But when I'm just like sitting here, it's just, I don't know, like I hate it. So I get that I totally try not to judge people off the first time I meet them because if people did that with me, I would literally never talk to anyone ever again.


true. So I think probably the time is hot this but there was like 26 minutes.


Yeah, I think we should be good.


Yeah so thank you. So thanks for talking with me. Was nice getting to know you and make sure you have a good time with your work, going back to work today and I would like that and just out fun this weekend. Hopefully just


Why you too? And good luck with the rest of your semester.


thank you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. So by.


Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah Okay welcome back. Yeah what is it? That's all yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay yeah thank you. Right yeah. Mhm. Yeah yeah. Mhm. A lot of hard here's something mm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Morning one time I have some time. Mhm. Yeah


morning,


morning


I'm Cheryl


I'm Mark


Hey Mark, how are you


I'm good. Nice to meet you.


now? You're treating you?


So where are you from?


I'm from ST louis but I'm located in Birmingham Alabama.


Yeah I live in Ohio near Toledo Ohio


Okay, how's the weather


uh here is really nice. We had almost


with,


80 degrees yesterday. Yeah it was weird.


Yeah um we're kind of cloudy today. I think we're getting part of that latest hurricane Aetna at uh I haven't even been paying attention to


I


it.


haven't paid much attention either.


Yeah. Yeah. Are you an Ohio native?


Yes I have lived near here in my whole life. I for this for this I've lived and lived from here is columbus Ohio which is only about two hours away so


Okay. All right. Mhm. Wasn't president ford from Ohio.


mm he might have been we've had a lot of presidents from Ohio like six or seven from Ohio but I don't remember Ford was or not he might I think it was in michigan actually


Okay. All right. Yeah, I think I think for whatever reason Ohio does produce a lot of presidents.


at least back in the day I think so.


I don't know much about dishes native to Ohio. Are there any like regional things that you know like you can only get in Ohio or?


mm I can't really think of a whole lot, I mean around here there's a lot of, there are a lot of german people so I mean maybe that's what fit I guess with bratwurst and sauerkraut and stuff like that and but it's nothing that you probably have never heard of her head or


Yeah ST louis has a big german population or they still do but it was oh God, late 18 hundreds there was a huge influx of german immigrants and Busch, beer, Budweiser beer,


Oh yeah, that's right


that family, that family is german and um so like when I was a kid years ago there were lots of little um like german butchers and german meat sausage shops and you could get bratwursts than you could get knockwurst then it makes me crazy today when you go to the store and there's something labeled bratwurst and it's pink. No


things


no.


are a lot different, yeah


Yeah yeah bratwurst believe it or not it should be gray, it should be almost the color of talk and yeah I love sauerkraut, I love spicy mustard. Um So yeah. Okay very cool, very cool.


so you've lived, you lived bring him for how long then?


about I'm gonna say about 30 years now and um my blood has thinned out I don't think I could do another ST louis winter.


I


bet


yeah I really don't think I could live there during the winter you know like I'll go visit relatives um Right after christmas and you know were there 34 days in I'm cold I'm ready to go.


that's funny you talk about weather


But


guys,


it's been about yeah. Yeah my


said


um I'm sorry.


no that's all right, go ahead.


No I was just gonna say that my husband's family, most of his family is here and so yeah, I eat barbecue chicken, like barbecue chicken before I came here, but now it's sweet tea and um how long grits? Uh huh. Mhm.


I've had a lot of grits in my life,


Uh that's uh grits is distinctly southern um but it's so funny how much grits and polenta have in common, it's like Atlanta, Okay,


huh,


call it that if you want to, but my in laws are going to call it grits,


uh huh, uh huh mhm so it was like I was saying before it's funny you talk about weather and I said it was 80 degrees here just yesterday and it can almost be 80 degrees today, but starting tomorrow we're going to be in the forties so we have quite the temperature differences happens around here.


do you guys get a lot of snow


Uh We get some snow yes. Uh We live on the right side of the lake that we don't


and


get the snow that like Cleveland does because every Cleveland they get Cleveland and over pennsylvania they get a lot of snow because of the lake effect. Um So when we get six inches of snow they get a foot and a half of snow over there


wow, okay, now my geography is really bad. Is that like superior


I think.


or Lake


Eric


Erie Lake Erie Lake Erie. Okay. Um I have a friend who lives in Pittsburgh.


yeah they probably get affected by that to there on the other side,


Yeah, and I visited her want to say it's two summers ago, is during the summer. Um But Pittsburgh was great,


I've


I


heard


had


good things. Mhm.


I I had a blast, ate my way across the city um in case you haven't figured it out. Uh I love to eat and I love to try like all of the local dishes um and there is a God, what's it called? It's like militaries, it might be pila terry's, there is uh it started as you know, little family restaurant now it's a chain and they make sandwiches with, I want to get this right smoked sausage sauerkraut um God, oh, in parochial, like a all in the same sandwich,


sounds good.


it was fabulous, absolutely fabulous. So I want to say Pittsburgh is the closest I've ever been to that part of the country,


Yeah it's still kind of far but yeah that's probably the closest, yep.


Mhm,


So uh how is the virus down there?


You know what? Um Yeah, I couldn't tell you, I uh you know, if they say stay at home, understand at home yesterday I went to the grocery store and I hadn't left the house in about a week. Um,


huh


I do. I wear my mask always. Um, I'm not as hyperactive I guess as I was earlier earlier. You know when I first started like March, I go to the store and I'd stock up on everything and if it came into the house and get sprayed with lights law, um the mail got sprayed with Lysol. Uh, if we got a parcel from, you know fedex or you got sprayed with Lysol. I'm not that diligent now. Um, yesterday I did groceries unloaded groceries, washed my hands cross my fingers. Hope for the best.


I can


understand that,


don't follow a lot of local news because uh, what difference does it make? You know, and a lot of local news in Alabama could mean you know tuscaloosa, which is an hour, hour and a half away. And what really set me off was like turn on the evening news and it was a house fire leading story house fire in Tuscaloosa kills family of eight. Why do I need to know that? Right?


yeah,


If the fire's not coming my way, why do I need to know that?


that's


You know,


a good point.


how is that going to, you know, prepare me for tomorrow or the next five minutes and I went through. Um, so I will read news and it's usually national news, but I don't watch it on television. I don't need to, you know, see those images and I'm blissfully ignorant,


Well maybe that's probably for the better.


you know, so far for me, you know, it's working, it's working really, really well. Um I do work from home


I


and I'm okay with that. And um, it's getting to the point where when I leave the house, it kind of freaks me out, you know, to see so many, you know, restaurants closed and to see so little, you know, activity in the streets, you know, it's kind of like, oh my God, is this the sci fi movie? You know, am I going to see tom cruise running down the street next? Um but I'm, you know, in my own little corner, in my own little world and I'm happy


Well I kind of wish it was like that around here. We uh we were like that at the beginning but now people are almost back to normal, there's so many people out doing stuff, restaurants are mostly open, I mean they have rules but here in the last week or two are viruses have skyrocketed in Ohio, so the last couple of days 5000 new cases a day and we were even close to that in the beginning, so starting


what?


to get scary here again.


Yeah, Yeah, it is, Yes, it is. If you haven't done it yet and I'm not kidding stock up on paper towels.


Oh I probably should had


No, I'm serious because if production goes off line again, you know, there could be another 68 weeks where you know, paper towels are really hard to come by. Um my husband, my long suffering husband, you know, you're kind of like and shake his head because I'm wagging and more paper towels, however, when the first stay at home order came through and I'm like okay I'm gonna go to the store, there was no toilet paper to be had. Not


know


at all. And there are three of us,


we got four here so


right? Um and it started to get really kind of you know, kind of sketchy and I'm like okay I'm gonna stock up on kleenex and hopefully, you know, I won't be calling rotor Rooter, you know, two days later and that's another $800. Um But since then I I'm playing it safe really. The things that I know that we're gonna need to just live like civil human beings, the paper towels, toilet paper all right,


I'm kind


we're


of glad


good.


we had this conversation because I just kind of makes me think about doing that because I probably we're probably gonna need to do something.


Yeah, I mean I mean I'm serious and sometimes I do get panicky. I am high strung. I am and I'll tell I'll admit that I'm really high strong. However when I hear that Kimberly clark and Marcel um you know when when um all of the cleansing wipes like the Clorox wipes, you couldn't find them because they're produced, you know, manufacturers say, oh, we're gonna need like, you know, 40 truckloads, we're going to produce 41 truckloads and we're good all of a sudden there was a demand for 60 truckloads, 80 truckloads and they couldn't


All


produce in time. Um depending on where you are, you might be seeing a lot of off brand, um, particularly toilet paper because it's being imported from Mexico. Um it's being imported from Canada and so it's not going to be Kimberly clark or Charmin, you know, it still works, but it's nothing you're familiar with because american production, they're trying to play catch up and if they're there, um if their workers get hit, you know, with with a wave and it throws manufacturing offline, you won't find it at the shop and save or the target or the walmart are so you know when it comes, when it comes to disposable paper products, I'm a paper product

right yeah Mhm mhm mhm mhm, yep. Yeah. Yes. Mhm mhm. Uh huh


True. It's a good


yeah,


thing to do.


yeah, yeah. I am. We can run out of, you know what, we can run out of beer before we can run out of toilet paper. Yeah,


Are your


alright. I'm off my soapbox.


no I agree with you. Are you're kids going to school at all down there or are they all at home?


My youngest uh is in savannah Georgia and she's a senior at Scad Savannah College of Art and Design. My oldest is at home. He just had a birthday last week and in the spring he's going to see a um, the culinary institute of America and I love saying CIA and people really like, no, no, no, he's going to be a chef and um even though, you know, I want to say they're on the quarter system and you know, he had the option of starting in january. we're starting in april and he's like january uh that there needs to be a little bit more stability, you know, in regard to the pandemic before we move across the country. So he's elected to start in april,


that's probably safer. Hopefully we'll have something better by then?


hopefully, hopefully um when this came down he was cooking for, it was a Marriott, one of the Marriott hotels and when he got laid off, uh


Oh


there are 300 rooms, there were nine guests in the entire hotel.


Uh huh. As a so he's not working there anymore at all right now


No, no, he said he's been laid off and then they said we're going to extend your layoff and he's like okay, and he's been in food service for years and if the, you know, if the hotel lays you off, you know, there are a lot of smaller, you know, locally owned restaurants that are, you're struggling, they're they're really, really struggling and so it's like, you know um you don't have to work you know and so just chill you know

Mhm mm mm mm. All right, Mhm. Yeah. Right. Your


restaurant open it all down there,


there are restaurants open. Uh one of our favorite restaurants that he used to work at. Um it's a family owned thai place, I don't know if you like thai food, I


A lot of it around where I live,


right, I love Typhoon um for a while it was carry out only and it was spooky because you know the restaurant is huge and you go in and there's like the hosting and the bar and the only light was at the bar and then there was a little door in the back going to the kitchen, that was it. There was one guy working the bar bringing food from the back, you know his expediting carry out orders from the back, answering the phone and it was it was crazy, it really threw me um we haven't dined at a restaurant since March, we will do carry out, but I haven't eaten in anywhere since since March

mm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh, mm. Mhm.


We have a couple


and I'm not.


of kinds but it's not I can count on one hand how many times we've done it. Uh But we've had similar things to we had where I live, we don't have a lot of options in restaurants. So we had a mexican restaurant that we like to go to a lot. It's also a pretty big place and we went in there and everything's dark in there, even though the register it was dark. You walk up to a dark register and get your food and pay and get out.


Mhm. So when you were dining in um did you have to like is it okay to take off your mask while you're eating or did


But nice book.


did you have to like?


the rules are you're supposed to wear your mask so you get to your table and then you can take it off and then everybody, you know, that works, there has to wear a mask the whole time. It's probably not as safe as you want it to be. But yeah, we have smaller kids, we wanted to get out of the house. We we've we've gone out and done that a couple of times.


understood. How old are your kids?


Uh We have 1/5 grader in a second grader.


Oh so they're 11 and eight.


Yeah, almost 8, 11 and seven, yep.


Very cool. So you guys are are your kids going to school on campus? Are you doing remote learning?


So my kids go to a small private school, so it's small enough that they think it's safe for them to go there. They've got they all gotta wear masks all day, they got petitions between desks but for right now fingers crossed, they keep going. But the bigger cities around us, see I don't live in Toledo, I work, I live near Toledo, they've all went back to homeschooling. All the bigger cities around here are all home schooling, so I think it's only a matter of time before they started doing that to get needed to


Right. Right. So when it


but Okay


when I your kids go to school and they get to see their buddies at school when they come home, are they still is it okay to have Playdates with friends and hang out with neighbors or how is that working?


we've done that a little bit too just because since they're around them already at school we feel it's safe enough to maybe do that a little bit but it's not something that we do a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah.


I just I just I can't imagine how tough it can be on younger kids who are learning how to navigate that social network


Very hard.


and when you know a third of your day it's spent you know just like just like your folks you know it's been away from home um and that gets rubbed, it that gets disrupted. Oh man. I just I.


Yeah, when they were home school and last spring it was rough, especially for my because it was the first grader at that time and my fourth grader was they'd have class an hour or two a day. But my first grader they just sent stuff home for him to do, they didn't really have a class that he's learning. So I was a teacher and I was working from home and I was teaching and it was kind of a stressful situation.


I can yeah. Yeah I uh I can imagine I was talking actually wasn't talking, I was texting with a friend last night and his youngest is 20 how old is? Andrew interest, 21 21 22. And um he's thinking he did go to school, I want to say he was going to school in Ohio because he was playing baseball, I want to say it was Ohio, he was he was playing baseball, he got on the baseball team, didn't like Ohio came back to Alabama was playing for different team and I know it was baseball and as soon as you said baseball, my eyes kind of glazed over and I should have paid better attention but I didn't and that's okay with Dave and that's why I used my um anyway, here's youngest is going to come back home and go to school at U A. B. Um And uh so we'll see. Yeah,


see


it's,


how long this lasts, where we can get uh they're probably going to do some kind of home schooling for quite a while, a lot of places I think.


you know, I'm glad, I'm glad Pfizer announced the release of the vaccine and I'm really glad to hear that it's got 90% efficacy. Great. Um start distributing it. Give me about six weeks and if you know, my neighbors aren't dropping like flies. Oh yeah, get in line, I'll get mine.


I feel the same way.


I uh although I think it might be okay with my husband because you know, I'm not shopping all the time. Uh huh. However, however when I do and it's it's just been the grocery store. I kinda I kind of tend to lose my mind, so like yesterday we got three bags of kettle chips, were


Nothing wrong.


they on sale? Right. No, no they weren't on sale but I had to buy something, I'm at the store and a kettle chips. Yeah. Yeah yeah uh snack bars, yeah but I don't know I guess it's kind of okay, I um I realized that I don't have to have new stuff all the time and I'm I'm quite content staying at home. Um But when I do I guess yeah when I splurge, I splurge at the grocery store,


What's wrong with that?


so since you guys um have you discovered that your cooking at home more?


I wish I could say that, I mean we are do you cook at home? But by the time I work at home then I gotta go pick up my kids and then I come back and I work some more and I help them with their homework and it comes time to make supper, sometimes I'll make supper, sometimes I'm done by that time I'm like I don't want to sit there and spend an hour making supper too, so we'll run into town and get something to eat sometimes too. So a lot of people say that they cook more at home. I think this has caused me maybe to cook less at home just because I need the time to get out and get away from the house.


Yeah. Yeah. No I get it, I get it. Um I know when when my kids were little uh there were several days when you know what it was, what kind of cereal do you want? Right,


Mhm.


That's what we're having for dinner.


I


So


wish my kids


pick


would eat cereal for dinner. I mean, they don't like kids do not a serial. They're weird. I don't know.


wow. When, when I was just about ready to snap and it was,


All


what kind of cereal do you want? They were celebrating. You know, it's like, I want captain Crunch done, I


definitely.


want whiz banks done, you know what, you get your own thing and Tooty, fruity is done because I'm mommy is about, mommy's about to end up on the news. No, it is harder when they're younger and that's one thing Dave and I were texting last night, we were talking about a mutual friend of ours and he's like, uh does victor still do is is acting class? I'm like, I don't, I don't know. And and they've said, well he had the kid and he kind of disappeared and I went, well, you know, his his family is young and young, families demand, you know, a lot more time. And

Mhm. Yeah. Right. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm, mm. Mhm. Mhm. Yes,


they do.


Dave goes, I don't miss those days. And I said, I don't either. I honestly don't. Um, empty nest. No. You know, first of all, my nest isn't completely empty. However, you


But


know, my youngest, you know, he, he comes and not the youngest, my youngest is in Savannah, My oldest just turned 26. Um, he's got his own life. He's got his own friends. Um, did I see him yesterday?


true.


I don't think so. I don't think I saw him at all yesterday and he lives downstairs in the dining room and I didn't see him at all. Um, and it was so funny. Got a couple of weeks ago, you know, my phone went off, it was like 11 in the morning and I see it's him and I wake up freaking out and he knows I'm high strung and he goes, it's okay, it's okay, I have a flat tire, I'm okay. I don't have the triple A card, I'm okay. And um you know, I'm like, whoa, this guy is falling, the sky

Uh huh. Uh huh. Right. Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh. Right,


christmas,


is falling. Um But other than that there they're young adults and their little self sufficient and if they need something, they know where we are. And yeah, after that, my time is my own.


I look forward to that time.


Um It'll come, it will come and you'll have gray in your beard


I'm already tonight.


and you'll have gray in your hair. Um But but it'll come and it'll be it'll be cool because when they do call or phone or text, well it's because they really want to.


Mm. That would be nice then. Yes.


Yeah. Yeah. And it's not you know that you know, I need you or it's my homework or no, it's like how you doing you doing okay? You


that will be


know what you've been watching? Yeah,


huh


it'll be great. It'll be great.


Oh um I think we've got our 25 minutes and it's been nice talking to you.


It's been a pleasure talking to you. I hope you have a great day.


I hope you do too and stay safe down there.


You as well. You and your family stay safe. Stay healthy.


Well do you have a good afternoon? Bye. Remember how


All


to end this


to


though?


it. Yeah. You know, I'm looking I'm looking at the open tab. I don't know if I close the window


I'm guessing


or if


that


I click


but you're supposed to to do. Yeah.


or if I click through and then close the window. Right? Yeah. Return to this browser tab. Open a new tab. You know, it was opened. We've had our video chat. I hope this works. I'm going to click through, fingers crossed.


I think we'll be again we've got more than enough time so uh.


All right. Ah Here we go. I'm going in. Ah All right, okay. I'm going to close you out now,


All right. You have a good day


you as well.


they don't want to go? Okay. Yeah I think that's good.


Hello?


Hi


Can


I


you hear a meeting?


can can you hear me?


Yes, loud and clear.


Perfect. Yeah how are you today?


I'm


What?


good thank you, how are you?


I'm doing well thank you


Uh huh. Good. No covid yet?


not here. What about you? How have you been? Okay good.


I haven't gotten it yet


Hopefully


hopefully.


none of us do except but I have no idea


No.


what to talk about. Yeah.


Uh huh. Yeah it's difficult to start a conversation. Yeah.


they didn't you any kind of tips or anything?


Right. Well as you may here I have a german accent.


I can hear it a little bit Yeah.


I'm originally from Germany and I came to the United States in 2000 and seven. Yeah.


that's cool. Is there anything thing in Germany that you miss


I miss my family over there because they are still there.


do you get to go visit a lot?


I haven't recently the last time I was there was in 2013.


So it's been a few years.


Yeah. Too long.


I believe my sister's boyfriend's family is from Germany they were he is from here but his father is from there so yeah his father has the accident and he doesn't and it's kind of cool to hear and um


So


Larry


he was born here.


yeah he was born here. Yes


I see.


so that's


I


probably


was born, I was born over there.


Yeah and so is there anything interesting over there like cool locations to go see and that kind of thing?


Oh a lot. Yeah. There's beautiful locations at the Rhine River uh in 2013. Last time I was there with my wife, we actually went on a boat to on the Rhine River boat tour. That was amazing. I've never done it when I lived there. Okay.


Well if you're on vacation you should just explore new things anyway so.


yeah that's right but that way I even explored my own country and uh saw things I haven't seen before,


Well there at least there's always new things to see, it could be the same stuff over and over again, so


that's


I don't think


fine.


getting to see new places even if it is where you do live.


Right. And then we have there's that big cathedral in the city I come from cologne. I don't know if you know cologne,


I don't um


it's


and a few things um my husband is military and so he's been to quite a few places and that's one place that he hasn't been too, so haven't gotten a study on it too much. Um He


would


have fun.


stuff.


I have not been in the cathedral whole lot when I when I lived there but I did go to it when I visited. It's kind of funny.


Catch them. It was. So what? Because I haven't um like I said looked it up so what is it that's like Really? Really? Because I know it's a magical place, so what is it that just really stands out about it? Mhm.


the cathedral? Oh it is it's huge, it's a gigantic cathedral.


Oh I see, catch


Do


up.


you know the cathedral in new york? I can't remember the name


I


I said


don't


is it some Patrick's? I'm not sure.


I haven't been there um I've been from north Carolina up to Chicago. Um That's about I'm trying to think. I've been to Virginia north Carolina, south Carolina Illinois, Chicago can look at all. We we drove straight across so we went and went through like so many states. It was hard to keep track of


Oh I see,


when


you've


just


been.


want to say it's actually the cathedral in new york is modeled


No.


after the cathedral in cologne. You have seen that one in new york. You kind of get an idea of how the cathedral in cologne would be.


imagine just on a much bigger scale. The one.


them almost the same size. Yeah


wow


that's


think so


That's cool. So


I've


and


done I've done a couple of tourists in the U. S. To I've been in uh uh on a drive on the on the east coast from Georgia


that


all the way up to new york


got


back


you


to


at the the


all the


absolute


way up upstate


weapon.


new york.


Catch up.


that was kind of cool. And uh another year I did a drive with friends from again from Atlanta Atlanta Georgia too. Columbus Ohio


Our kindness my


husband.


was in the wintertime when it was it was cold.


Yeah at least you were in the car right? Yeah.


Right


I mean you could have you having a motorcycle all the way up then it would have been really


you're really cool. Yeah.


Yeah.


But yeah I got it I got to see a little bit and I have lived in uh in history the first four years and then we moved to Indianapolis and lived there for another three years before we moved back to Missouri.


Just are you in Missouri now? Sure. Um Born and raised in north Carolina so.


Could not my wife and I we really like north Carolina from pictures but we haven't been there.


it's the mountains are pretty. The V. Chip


like the mountains.


the beach is okay now when it comes to beaches I prefer Virginia beach myself. My husband was stationed there for six years. Well so I definitely prefer the Virginia beach area. Um But the mountains in north Carolina are really pretty. Um in the mountains in Tennessee are really pretty, so.


Yeah friend driving through Tennessee on that tour from Atlanta to columbus Ohio we drove right through it but it wasn't the wintertime so it wasn't as pretty as it probably would look into the spring or somewhere.


Oh it's it's really nice in the fall like. Right probably right. This time when the leaves are change, it's really cool because they do have certain spots where you can pull off and just look over and it's it's


hold on. Uh huh. I


so


would love to see that.


it's definitely I don't know like we're more beach people. Um I have little ones though so you know they like to stay busy and be in the water but for like a quick little weekend vacation, the mountains are really nice to go to and just kind of get away from everything else. So I definitely agree


I


with going


used


out.


to I used to be a beach person but when I got older it kind of turned around and now I'm more like a mountain person. I prefer the mountains.


They're kinda half and half depending on the time of year. It is um like


Are you


like


close to the beach? Are closer to the mountains?


We're right smack in the middle.


All right in the middle. Okay.


freak. It's like the same amount of time to get to either. So it's, it's pretty cool. We're not really um near any big cities or anything. I mean we are but not like closest city, like huge city is 45 minutes away. We're out in the country so


Out


it's nice, it's not too busy, it's not super crowded. Um We have farm animals, like it's yeah, we we just kinda were like being out in a way, so we're right smack in the middle over both


We


people.


are not far from Kansas city actually. We are but we're not in Kansas city, we are


Hello?


in a suburb, in a small town nearby but going to Kansas city it's maybe just 30 minutes or so. Uh


We're near, have


No.


you ever heard of charlotte? Okay, so we're like 45 ish minutes away from charlotte as


I see.


that's the closest city that's around. So I mean it's not, I don't really like going to charlotte. I do want to have to um I mean if you need a specialist or something like that, typically we have to drive


Who


the


are?


shark kind of thing. Um The big malls are up in that area so if necessary will go. But it is not my favorite place to be. Yeah.


we haven't been in Kansas city even once this year


I


but


don't think we've been anywhere this year hey. But we got in a vacation. We did head to the beach for week, nine days. It was kind of we were going for a week and then we decided we were going to stay an extra weekend. So that was nice. But we no because we home school we don't have to deal with the school schedule. So when we want to go I just plan it right, we're going and we just do school either the week ahead or a week behind and they it all balances out in the end so we go in september when the rest of school is in and we get to be out,

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Oh yeah. Mhm. All right. Mhm. Yeah.


Oh that's nice.


so. Yeah.


See they don't have home schooling in Germany. Yeah that does not exist. There's a kind of it's mandatory that your kids have to go to school. Yeah.


Well their education system is probably a lot better than what we have here anyway.


I don't know, I never went through this education system here so I have no idea.


It's I mean it's it's not it's not good. Um I was home schooled but my husband was in public school and we decided when we had kids so that's what we were going to do and it's been great for us. Uh


huh.


huh. But especially with the virtual learning that they're doing now, it is very difficult, the neighbor kids were doing that and they were struggling and so now they're actually being home schooled by me as well.


Yeah I just wanted to say I think for your kids it should be easier now because uh nothing has changed for them, They get home all the time.


Right. Um We've been homeschooling my oldest is in the fourth grade, so I've been doing this for counting kindergarten for five years. Um Oh my goodness, that's a lot. So


What?


um for me it was just we're just going to start right back up when we normally will they finish their cool and um the only difference is we don't do as many field trips as we normally would because everything is still um either shut down or you have to schedule certain appointments. Um And that kind of thing, but other than that our life is just same as it was before, so


that's pretty neat.


it's kind of nice. Mhm. But


Yeah, they don't have that in Germany, that's too bad.


I mean it's an experiment, but like I said, yeah, yeah, I've got to have a better um school system than we do anyways. Um


Yeah it's kind of complicated the school system over there. They have like three different here, they just have high school and they have three different types of schools. I don't know an english word for them, but they are green, one goes only know to go only until 10th grade and one goes until 13th grade only the one that goes to 13th grade allows you to go to university afterwards. The other you can only uh work a job or you can you can do some extra school like two or four years extra. And that qualifies you for your university as well. I did


They won't


that


let you


but I I


leave,


never


What are you doing?


went to university. I actually worked,


Yeah. Um I did not I didn't go to college and my husband didn't go to college. He actually decided


no.


to get his C. D. L. And he's now a CBO truck driver and um military so he kind of the military is more part time now, he's an active reservist so he only does that for months now and then he is a full time studio truck driver. So I mean you can definitely do what you need to do with that for us. We don't put as much emphasis on going to college because we have been able to succeed without doing it um With just the hard work that actually needs to go into it.


In my family nobody went to college, but my parents didn't, my brother did not, I did not, I


that's how it so


I have I went to uh to the extra school after after the regular school, I learned economics and then I learned taxes and I got a job as a at a tax consultant and that worked with taxes. But sadly that doesn't do anything for me here because


No.


german tax law is totally different from american tax law.


mess


So my south africa doesn't do me any good here.


I got. Yeah. Yeah well and there's a different currency in America, don't I had to um because I own my own business so I had to learn how to do all of that from the ground up myself. And it is very confusing um at least on this part of it, it's very very difficult to learn um and it does take a lot of effort to remember how to do it and then like every different section has its own different amounts or percentages of what can be taxed and food gets taxed separate from this and it's I was like oh my goodness. So yeah, I can see how it would be way different to do it from Germany to american because this America stuff is difficult to say the least. Okay.

Uh huh. Yeah. Uh huh. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Unfortunately I lost my my main job in february. I I


Fuck.


did have a pretty well paying web design job, but uh my partner at that time in the air we decided to split up with the business so she she's doing


All


the business now by herself and I don't have a job. Yeah, that's that's why I'm on here.


same


That's


all of them because it's it's not, do you know what a comic con is like where people go and they dress up and they come? So with the stuff that I make, I would go and I would go to the conventions and I would sell it. But then when they shut everything down, they said, oh, you can't have big groups of people anymore. So all of my jobs for the year have been canceled,


And


that I haven't I haven't worked since my last con was in february. Um So I'm on here, I'm doing prolific and I'm doing amazon's um in Turks and um doing this because I think it's pretty much that you're going


You


to be shut


know,


out


I'm also good, what what I'm doing? I do prolific and micro workers.


Hell. How does that one work? Is that one kind of the


Kind


same?


of like mturk it's pretty very similar, but the jobs pay a little better.


Oh, and it's Microsoft


My co workers dot


microfiber?


com.


Oh, I'll have to look at that one because this is, yeah, so, I mean, with them shutting everything down, it definitely makes it difficult to do anything else at the moment, but I'm enjoying the prolific one, like, um I just started it in august and I like, I like that it's a lot different. I like that I get to work when I


I think I started it in in june that took me that long to find it.


well I didn't I didn't even know that they did this kind of thing. Um I mean I did swag bucks, which is kind of a survey site where you earn points,


Uh I know


but


that. Yeah.


I've done that for probably 13 years a lot. Um


Her.


and then um I didn't realize that I knew there were other sites kind of like that, but I didn't know if there were sites were up here is your job, you automatically get it you're done. So I like this a lot better. I've actually slowed down this five bucks side because I like that I can do this and not have to push for a goal every day, so I enjoy doing the prolific jobs.


I am


And they


uh the most actually the prolific is uh is great.


it's honestly it kind of shocked at how much they were paying for stuff. Not complaining,


No, no, nothing.


no, complete. But I mean I have three Children so from the ages of 8 to 3 so for me I have to be able to do something that I can work in between doing other. I can't I don't have somebody


Wire


kids so I can go out and even try to get even just a waitressing job. So I am very happy to have found something like this where it's online and I can do it and I can work with it around the kids.


that's very good. Yeah. Do you have the extension installed? That makes us sound when something comes in?


I do. It's oh I've


Oh, come on. No.


got one that one and then I have one for the mturk that um the hit catch or one where you can automatically put it in and as soon as the drop


How?


pops up for a certain person it will automatically take it for you. Uh


in.


Yeah that one helps a lot. I get a lot of jobs I can kind of scan through the list and go click click click click click and it puts all of them into the queue. And then when I get about 20 jobs I'll go and just go through job after job after drop. And


All


it ends up a lot better and a lot faster to get jobs that clicking on one, getting it doing it then having to go find a new one. I've got a whole list of them sometimes 20 or 30 jobs and read them ready to be clicked on.


They don't have anything like that on my coworkers, but they have a similar feature when when there are jobs that you like doing, you can uh put the employer into your list and then all the jobs when you lock in, they are marked green, they have green line, you find them immediately, but you don't have to search for them


Oh I'm


or


definitely


they're black, they're


not look at that one. I'm right in the name now.


yeah. Micro workers started calm.


All right. I mean um definitely always interested in finding new jobs that are you know any anything extra that I can put towards. Um So all the stress isn't on my husband and so I like being able to help where I can so I need it.


he was kind of the other way around my wife, she works for the government. She has a great paying job. So when we are not totally lost because I lost mine but of course I'm trying to do anything I can do to help them. Well until I find something uh better


Right. Because you don't want it to fall on one part. I mean that's it, that's how we are. We don't want it to fall on one person. We want it to


bye.


be you know a little more equal. So well I may not bring in because matt my husband does have a very good paying job, shockingly. The Cdo driver pays more than the Navy did. But I mean it's a nice balance um where he works and I keep the kids during the day and I do a few things here and there and then when school is over I work anywhere from 3 to 2 and 2 to 3 to like nine o'clock, but when he gets home he takes over on the kids, so it's definitely split about 50 50. Um And while he's like, you know, well we're okay, well do we need to do? And I'm like, I don't know, it's a partnership for me, so I'm like it definitely should be split more than just me going up, you're going to go get a job and I'm gonna sit at home and do nothing.


I like the I like the online stuff, it seems to I'm very computer savvy, so it seems to work better for me to be able to do this kind of stuff, so this is my first time doing any of the video chats. Um


Oh that's it. That's already my third time.


So these pop up often.


Yes, I did these two times before.


Oh cool. I tried to do one last week on here, same group. Um My partner never showed up, so I got the bonus of a dollar 50 but I'm like, I wanted to do the job.


that happened to me last time. My second time I got rescheduled three times. The first two times nobody showed up and finally I got scheduled in the afternoon and then the person showed up the other two were in the morning. That that never worked.


I set an alarm on my phone. I was like, I am not going to forget that I have that job. But I like that this company, I don't know how the other ones are, but I like how this company they let you do it over and over and they are like capping you like, oh that person skipped out. So you're only allowed to get the bonus once that I like that they'll pay you to do it however many times until you get a partner that talks.


Bride.


So I do like that. I'm loving the prolific. I like the way that it works and I like how quick things are. Um I mean and it is good money. So there's that for what we're doing. It's good money set my in laws. I


I like


I take


that correct.


go ahead.


I don't know I just said I like that too.


All right. So I I don't know if you do it. I tend to work outside of the house if I can like if I can take it with me. My husband had a he had a minor it wasn't a surgery but he had to have the camera put down his throat to look at a stomach. Um And so I was right on him. I like sat in the car and was doing prolific in the car. Um And I take it to the in laws house when we go over there on weekends and I'll sit there on their couch and I'll just work and they're like you can't make that much doing it and I'm like you have no idea, don't judge it if you won't try it. So


I've never tried it on my phone. I have to admit that I always do it at home.


I well I have a for the kids school we have a problem book. So whenever I go out of the house I'll just take their Chromebook with them and I'll do it that way. So


good.


no, I don't know if it works well on the phone or not, but I'll take the little, the little miniature


Are the,


computer stay out and hey and


thank


do it


you.


that way. So I have four.


Oh wow we are just one.


We have four. And normally she doesn't want, she doesn't normally get up on me, but I don't know, she's like be good today, but we've got four cats, three dogs, nine, yeah, nine goats, 10 ducks and 20 chickens. We have a food. So I mean


No we were living in an apartment. We have just


what?


one cat.


Yeah, we've got right at two acres of land, so we've got some room to spread out um a little bit. Um Now we're looking to buy something with a lot more. But um I make soaps. That's my job. My job is to make soaps and so we have the goats for the milk so I can use that in the soaps. And then um of course the chickens and ducks are for eggs. So we teach our Children have to be more self sufficient versus your stuff comes from the grocery store, there's no nothing else that comes from it. Um Our kids know start to finish, they've raised chickens from eggs, I mean they're running around in the yard now um


Uh huh.


regarding we do experiments with different kinds of soil and we turn into um their science projects, they just planted pumpkin suits earlier and they like cut open a pumpkin and play into the season side of it. So we do have a little bit of a farm so that the kids can see where things come


Brother.


from.


That's good. That's


It's definitely different from your typical life but yeah I wouldn't trade it, they enjoy it. Nothing you're doing it so.


I have to I think at least one more side I can give you. But I have never done it. It's


Have to go.


called PICO workers. It's it's kind of like the same like micro work because what I've never done it, I think they don't pay as well there. So I concentrated mostly on micro workers.


I mean sweat books does well, trying to think, I think my name's our spy bucks, prolific mturk and


I have tried entered but I gave it up because I couldn't link my bank account to amazon for some reason. It never worked.


Oh goodness. I mean you can also get it, try to put on an amazon gift card, so if you,


I do that.


yeah, it's a lot, well you can do it for christmas money trying to but it's yeah, it's one of those things that's kind of like, but paid viewpoint, have you ever heard of that one?


What is that card?


Paid viewpoint?


Oh yes. Uh huh.


So I do that one. Um and I never, it's not a lot but it's about $10 a month on there for doing like if you really quick like maybe 2020 question surveys, it's very easy and the money.


I used but I've recently I have stopped doing it because yeah it's easy and uh they paid nice but


Six.


sometimes they get just 10 cents for for one of those surveys and then sometimes more sometimes it's more than a dollar or so. But not always.


Yeah. It just depends um on what it's on. I get a lot of diaper ones on there because I have a three year old, so they're like, here take this one. Um So I think it just depends on the person. I don't think my mom makes


Bye.


as much there as I do.


There's another one. Oh wait uh what's it called?


I don't know. Please. Yeah. Yeah.


Just slipped my mind a pine cone research my ankle.


I used


Pine cone research staying up. They don't have a whole lot,


could


but


be,


they sent you


come on.


they sent me like one or sometimes two surveys a week and each one of them pays $3.


I used to do that one and I did it for I think like three or four years and then all of a sudden they just stopped


It's


swinging the surveys and now it won't let me make a new account. There is another one it's called life points and


I know that.


that one does decent because the survey pays like 100


Football.


75 points ish and it takes 600 points to trade down for $5. Um I mean you can earn $5.1 day if you do two or three surveys um Depending on the amounts. So that one I do when I have um time later on the day because you can turn, I mean depending on how much time you put into it, you can definitely earn some. They they gave me a study last week where I put in what I had bought for the week, which wasn't much, but and they paid me $10 to keep track of it for the week. I was like, I'll take it. How bad. So that one's a good when I do like life points. I think that's really the only ones that I'm doing at the moment. Um If you like the kind of work like this, there's crowd source to where you do. It's more like um the internet where you do the different little transcription jobs. Um But it's

Yeah mm. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah wow. Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.


It's crowdsource dot com. Uh


crowdsource is. Yeah.


Yeah. I do something that's called user crowd. They have little tests but they pay like each test pays like between 20 and 60 cents but you get quite a few of them and uh accumulates fairly fast.


I have that one. Um I think we do a lot of the same ones. Um My mom does a few other ones. I just can't remember what um what they are. Um And shit, we're in the same household so she can't do the amazon one.


But I've never I've signed up for some of these other testing sides but you have to kind of sit there and then talk your way through it. I I don't know, that's not my thing.


it's not mine either. Um I guess I mean I like I did five books earlier just enough to get my daily goal without pushing it through. Um But my mom does really well on that one. She can make a couple of 100 on five bucks a month. And I'm just sitting here like how to be your ways because I don't know. Um But she does a lot of the gold surveys and they somehow she on there gets a lot of products to test, But when she gets the products

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, wow. Uh huh. Okay. Uh huh. Yeah, wow,


I'll


sent to


let


or


you.


she'll test it out. Like she's getting dishwasher taps, they'll pay your $5 to test them events. You'll get an extra 10 to 20 for the survey after that. And I'm just like really


that's nice. I got probably this uh Pinecone research. They sometimes uh I get a survey and then they asked me if if they can send me the product then they send it to me, I use it. And a couple of weeks later there comes another survey, another $3 and


All right. So


what


you


I get $6 plus the product.


right. She got have you seen the shark vacuums? Like really expensive vacuums factbook sent her one paid her money to test it and then we got to keep the vacuum great. I was we don't even have carpet but this one is made for carpet and hardwood. And so she got it to test it on the hardwood. I'm like this is the best vacuum I've ever used. I love this thing. She's like you can't keep it


Uh huh. Uh huh.


man. But they


But


had I think I think the survey afterwards was like 20 maybe $30 for testing a vacuum. I'm like really? But she gets them. I don't know. It's insane. So I mean five bucks is definitely worth it if you can figure out out of how to do it. Um I think she just has the gold surveys. I think that's how she gets the products


No,


and survey.


I've tried swag books months ago, but I never made much on it at all.


Thanks. Um Now if you do um Rab Universe can get a lot of points. Um If you have a smartphone and you download the apps, those can pay a couple bucks for just playing a game on your phone when you're laying in bed. I mean let's be realistic you can play a game on your phone when you're out waiting in the car somewhere um and get paid for it. So if you can get any of the um the games to test off of there, they also do a thing now where it's like double


Close


points


up


so they're double the amount that you get paid on. Um rave universe and Adgate media and in the


and.


gold surveys and that's how she does that those are the three things she does and she does


I


well with.


have something on my phone and on my computer it's called Honey Game, it just runs in the background, it shares your band with, it needs some of your bandwidth but you don't have to do anything and it just accumulates money.


And it's called what


Honey gain.


honey


You find


drink?


it Honey game dot com. It's a small it's a tiny little program, you can install it on your computer and you can also install it on on an android phone


that's cool.


corn. And uh just they just pay you money for sharing your internet.


And no.


It's not much but you can


Angel.


you can earn depends on how many devices you you you have. I kind of make $20 takes me a month and a half or so to get $20 from it for doing nothing basically it just runs on your own and only a computer.


Right. I have um


Mhm.


two of the chromebooks for the kids and then one desktop so


And.


may be able to do 20 a month. I'd be kind of nice so.


you have it on three devices. But uh but then that's kind of tricky because they are very a while ago they have limited to two devices per I. P. Address. So so I have my phone and my desktop run on the same I. P. Address on my laptop. Uh I use a different we have a how do you say different wifi channel for guests? So to call from Comcast I bought for my laptop. So the lab has a different I. P. So I can run three devices. Oh


That's smart. That's


it's


smart.


lower but it's fast enough for that.


That's smart. So well


But


I.


if you have only um one of uh by if I. I. P. Address you can only run two devices.


Okay well we have the guest one and then we also have an extender um to make the wifi stretched the whole length of the house. Um The extender has a separate um I. P. Address as well so


Yeah that's your word.


I should so definitely thank you. Right.


and you


Hey


don't have to do anything for you just want to the ground.


God, I love free money. So, but thank you very much for those two websites because I haven't heard of them. And I'm definitely going to check them out.


Yeah Micro workers doesn't have as many jobs as uh entered but uh it varies between 1005 100 sometimes it's only like 600 drops on there. And I only do a couple of them. There's a whole lot of jobs I wouldn't even do.


Sure. Well, there's so many people that do in Turkey that it's kind of hard to get some of the jobs sometimes. So that's a little slower. Might be kind of nice.


they're sometimes jobs that pay really well, like 50 cents per jobs. Uh And those go away really fast. But they


No.


have like usually 40 or 50 people can do the job. And if if you're on there all the time, it's no problem to get them.


I can


show you


if you're away from the computer for a couple of hours, you might actually miss out on some.


catchable. This this one's up and running all day long from the time I get up until the time I go to bed. So it's always got that it's always got the different tabs open so I can go and check it throughout the day. So


Yeah. I like my computer, all my computers. I like run 24 7 because of that honey game thing that runs overnight as well.


yeah, that's smart set.


so I rarely ever restart the computer.


I don't, I do like maybe once a week.


huh.


But that's only to I got one computer that's got issues of its own for too long. It stops working. Yeah


I might get issues if it's on for 10 days or a little more than it sometimes gets a few issues and then I have to restart it.


like it won't open up certain things or it's really slow. Yeah that have so other than that the other one stays on pretty much all the time too so I can definitely have it open and doing things in the background while it's not doing anything else. So but I think we have yeah we've gone up

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


Way


said


over time.


that's all right. Um It was nice talking to you. Um Maybe we can get paired up again later. That would be fun. But thank you so much for talking with me and for helping me out telling me about those other two things. Um Because I'll definitely look into


How


them.


are you? Welcome


So but I hope that you have a fabulous day and


there.


we'll forget to do the survey when we get off of this one because


And


I


now


forget.


another 20 minutes?


I know right it's all right it's okay. But


Oh,


yes, so thank you very much for talking to me. Uh


thank you very much. Mhm.


and like I said, I hope you have a great day.


Yeah, I hope you two.


Thank


you.


just closed. I think we just closed the top.


I think so. I hope so. Thank


All


you. Bye.


Okay. Right. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. All right. Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Really? No. Oh, yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. First. Mhm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yes. Mhm. Yes. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Uh huh. Mm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. What? Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Trying to get pregnant. Yeah. Okay. The professors. Yeah. Mhm. Your dog? Hello? How are you?


june


Not


okay how are you?


bad. So is this your first time doing this or?


My second one? I did one on friday to how about you?


Uh This is from, well, my fifth successful one by 61 total.


Oh wow that's exciting. Have you been having good conversations with people? Yeah.


I think I've only had one that was kind of dry, but other than that everybody's been nice. I did figure out that they match a woman up with a man. I figure


well that makes sense.


I was wondering how it goes because, you know, the first couple times from like it can't be luck that I just keep on getting a woman there


wants


has to be and then,


to


but


be a plan behind it.


then by like the fifth one I was like okay now I know what's going on, how they try to figure out what they're looking for.


Right. No that makes sense.


So now I understand that okay, they mix it up that way, so.


first couple of coincidence after you hit three you're like okay there's a pattern for me.


Exactly. That number four, number five. And I was like okay, that's it. I know what's going on. So


Makes sense. Oh


yeah, how long have you been doing prolific for?


um so I feel like


But I


I registered


told you I registered


ages ago


agent


but I


ago, but


just


I really


started doing


just started


it over the past


doing it


couple


over the


of


possible.


months. Uh


Uh huh.


now that I'm working from home I've got a little bit more time on my hands to focus so. Right.


Yeah, I think that's pretty much the same thing as me right around March is when I, but I don't think I couldn't even remember how I found it, but I signed up for it and I think I've made like like $1000 at this point.


wow that's impressive. I've not made that much but I'm on basically all of the testing websites and that sort of thing just because they're easy and who can't use extra money.


Right. Right. Well the one thing I like about this is it has a very low payout. So like what? You know it's £5 which is like what $7. So so it's easy to you know bang them out and then it takes really well considered compared to


Do


the other ones.


they really do well And this one I feel like there's more opportunity because I'm on a lot of different


Well.


ones but half the time I don't qualify for the stuff that they send me. Whereas there's only been one


What?


that I've not been able to


do because I didn't qualify and it was because I have two supervisors, not one that was the only reason. So I mean this one feels at least more accurate I guess for they send you what


Well


you can do.


because I mean I I use I don't you might use a survey junkie.


I've not done sir. Well I think I did


Good


it like


work.


years and years ago but I didn't keep up with it.


Okay because I I found that one and that's the only other one I do and that's just exactly


It.


like what you said where like they they have like 20 available on a day and don't get accepted for like percent of them. So you know they give you like three cents for each rejection. Then most of the time it's like 80 cents for each survey you do. So it's just a grind to do it where with prolific. You know I I had one that was like I don't know 20 minutes long and it paid 10 bucks so.

Mhm. Exactly. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Oh. Mhm. Right. Yeah. Yeah


exactly, definitely more more buck for your time with prolific. The other one I do most of the time is user testing which is actual like website testing. Like they'll have you checked the website to see how functional it is and that one


That's


would be like 10 bucks a pop. But it's if they send you anything they think you might remotely be qualified for. So you'll get a couple of questions


come on.


into the initial survey and they're like, sorry, you don't qualify after all and you don't get anything for doing the initial survey because it's a higher payout if you do get through. So they're really reliable. So it's really nice if you do get through but it can be hard to qualify.


how much time do they look for you to put in with playing with the website?


It's about 15 minutes. Um Well that's what they say. They say it's 15 minutes and you get paid 10 bucks. I'm kind of like seven or eight minutes. Like it depends. I guess how good you are navigating websites because a lot of it is okay. You want to register, where would you go click where you would want to go if you were going to register? Well, if you're good at navigating websites and finding that information, they allot you


Don't want


probably


only.


45 seconds for that task. It only takes me like 10 seconds to figure that out. So


Now is it a thing where like that you have certain tasks you have to


Got


do


it.


in order to be done or do they just give you a general lot in the time you have to reach?


uh they give you specific tests they want you to do because essentially they're either testing their testing. One of two things are they're testing, does this website actually work? Like is it programmed correctly and it's functional or they're testing, does it make sense to somebody using it? So they'll ask you like, okay, find where you would register and then they ask you, okay, how hard was it to find that


Out of that,


when you click on register, do the


I understand


questions


the question.


make sense? Is that information you would expect to fill it, stuff like that?


nobody. That's not bad. What else did? Okay.


And I use another one. Intelligent, intelligent. Um I think it's called it has it's also called the user tool.


I mean


I think it's another


it's


one testing


another one


functionality


of the functionality


of apps and


of


websites.


absent website


Usually


usual.


sometimes they have live conversation ones on both of them and but primarily they're both on like functionality


thank


us.


websites and apps,


I was thinking about all right, that's cool. I keep on trying to find one that will do like the consumer product testing.


Um There's, they don't come up with uh at least not for me tests. I can do very often, but it's like buzz agent like be Zzz like buzz like a bee but without the U. Biz agent and they do consumer product testing. I tested a candy for them one time. That was fun. And then I tested what was the other fantastic shampoo or soap or something maybe. No, no it was like a year ago. I don't even remember anymore. The thing


And


about that one though is they want you to post reviews but at which I'm not as comfortable with. But on the flip side, like facebook for example, you can make a post that no one can see but you, so it's


So


a nice hey, let's get around it a little bit where you're still posting your review, it meets the requirements of posting a review. But if you're not comfortable being like, hey, I was paid to test this, you


Right. I was gonna


don't


say


have


it's


to show


like


it to the entire world.


I'm just gonna say it's not like one of those like amazon reviews were like I'm a paid tester for this thing and can see


yeah, and everyone


what


in the world can see it like, or you can have specific people see it on facebook, which is kind of nice because if there's someone I think will like it, I'm


On.


happy to make them aware that I did it, but I also don't want to spam everybody on my facebook friends list with, by the way, I tested this.


right. You don't wanna be that person be like hey by the way because


exactly. But I probably


almost


get less tests because I don't spam a billion different social media is with my review, but I


I'm sure


mean


they probably have some way of tracking that


Yeah, I mean they're


I


primarily


quit.


just for the free item. You don't


I can't


actually,


stop.


I don't think with most of them you don't get paid in addition to the free items. So it's kind of like okay


No, that's certainly


if you're


didn't


also


think.


paying me $30 maybe, but mainly you're just sending me something for free. So


Yeah it's hardly upsetting if you get something crappy, really


so there


good


just


on


haven't


this.


been pretty good so far. They're they're very into established brands. Like the candy I tested was a line that sweethearts was going to put out


Okay, that's cool.


at least. I think it was sweethearts. And then I think the soap I tested was like, it was like dial or some like


No something


common brand that's everywhere. Very established. Not like random indie stuff, which I have nothing against, but with a more established company you kind of know, I mean they don't


you're


tell


more


you what


familiar


money


with


for,


it.


but you can pretty much guess that it's going to be a Fortune 500 company that you're testing for. So you kind of know what you're getting into.


Right. Rather than somebody who did a Kickstarter and start throwing you know, like it's made somebody's bad though now. Where are you from?


Um, I originally, I'm from Illinois, but right now I'm in Iowa, so midwest basically. What about you?


Yeah, New Jersey. No,


on


that


my


was


customers? That worker in New Jersey? Well, I say that I have a lot of customers everywhere because we're countrywide. But I talked to a lot of people from New Jersey,


No. Uh How are you guys doing the whole covid thing?


uh, so far so good. So they just switched just to working remote because um, I'm in billing so we're all essential because most people still need our services. But on the flip side, we are losing a lot of business, not because they don't want to work with us anymore, but because businesses are closing down due to covid. So it's kind of like so far we're okay, it doesn't seem like anything terrible is going to happen for the company, but seeing the number of cancellations is a little bit concerning.


Well, now, how how is it like around you, like, like it's all like all the restaurants open, you have to wear a mask


from


when you go outside any of that stuff


um so supposedly we're supposed to be wearing masks, but no one cares,


go


some of the stores are a little bit more particular, but even then a lot of them are in for, a lot of them can't enforce it. So they just kind of let people do whatever they want restaurants. There are still rules I think you have to get take out still. Um or you have to be able to sit outside or they have to limit the number of people inside. But for the most part people are pretty much acting like Covid is over, which I think is interesting.


Well, it's curious how it is in, you know, the midwest, because you know, New Jersey, right, I'm 30 minutes away from New york city, so I've got a billion people around me. And um we went through like everything shut down like essentially from March to really like july like blocked in your house. That was the end of it. Uh huh. Right now we're you have to wear a mask. What like when you're outside, just like walking around, you don't need like a parking lot, something like that park, you don't need it. Um But if you go into any sort of store you have to do it otherwise to kick you out. And restaurants, they have they've had the outside dining for a long time now uh since july but they just started 25% indoor dining, I want to say september, that was nice.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay.


Risk.


But again you have to wear your mask until you sit down. Once you sit down you can take it off obviously to eat and everything like that, but once you're done you have to put it back on, get up to pay and everything.


Yeah. I feel like people here are not taking it seriously enough. That's for sure. Especially because numbers aren't great. I mean we haven't been hit as bad as some other places, but our two biggest employers in town both had covid outbreaks. So I'm kind of like ok guys, it's in the two biggest employers like come on, people got to take it a little bit more seriously like


It's


most


just


of


it's


the setting,


just the main


it works in those two places like


very soon. I find it amazing how it just traveled everywhere. Like like you know obviously you know it's going to hit the coast


What?


because the flights come into so you know, L A. New york but then how it just, you know, went everywhere. It's just amazing.


And really quickly to it seemed like at first it was just something you were kind of hearing about and then literally three days later they're like it's hitting the us everyone stay home. Okay.


Right. Because well because I remember hearing about it in december, was that one of my uh some soccer games and one of the other dads, he's a pharmacy rep. So he goes to place selling whatever that we sell. But you know, I asked him, I'm like, oh have you run into anything yet airports where like, you know, they ask you where you traveled or anything like that. He's like what are you talking about? And I'm like, oh well there's this you know this coronavirus thing in china where like you know, I'm imagining that you know it's going to be hitting us soon because you know, nothing shut down. He's like no I haven't heard anything. He's the guy just came back from texas and then that was december. Then you went through like february. Let me like, you started hearing like little first of it was then when March happened, it was like the end of day, everybody's got it like everybody was like getting it that was dying. And

Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. All right, wow. Uh huh. Right. Mhm.


then it


crazy.


I think we went up to family. I think we went up to 700,000 cases or something like


I've


that in New Jersey.


been like that. Yeah.


And then and then I mean, I did that. I think we've had 50,000 deaths. All right. Yes.


Something like that. Yeah.


Then it dropped down and we were having like, I don't know, like 300 like in my county we were having like one or two cases a day here and there and but in the state of the whole it was like 304 102 100 like, you know, low fluctuate. Like nobody hang anymore. And now all of a sudden back up to like 1200


Yeah. I think it's because we I think country


what?


wise, we opened up like


No.


way like before it was actually like the reason it dropped was because most people were following, you know the mass and the social distancing and mainly staying home uh Because that's what they've maintained in europe and in Asia, but everyone's pretty much acting like it's


I


back to normal. Like actually read I think was I read an article today talking about how people are referring to Covid as a past thing that's happened. Like people are going to talk about, oh do you remember back when Covid was happening and we all had to be quarantined? And


so


the


person,


don't remember the


cloud,


person who is writing the article was like except that it's currently happening right now and you're still supposed to be social difference in this


It's


isn't


sort


over.


of anybody. I mean my kids have to do the hybrid thing where they go to school for two days, then three days their home, they do the virtual stuff and it's just like, uh like, you know, I don't, my my wife brings him to school because you know, I don't want to put them on a bus and I have to wear a mask and it's


Let me


stupid, but you know, it's no fun to do that. You know, I'll just drive you, you put your mask on really good to school and that's it. I'm not gonna for showing a 40 minute bus ride and it can take me 15 minutes dump you off. Uh huh.


Try and make the transition easier.


So it's just like, and then I think they're talking about in november, we're going to open it up to


Pretty


full


hot.


five days a week, but half days and then they're aiming for december to be full time.


Yeah. My work is talking about, they kept saying like ok you'll be back in the office in May and then they said july and then they said september and then they were like never mind end of the year as soon as, but so right now that's what they're planning is having us come back I guess technically beginning of New Year's when they're playing on having us come back and I'm just kind of like, can I not?


Right. Well, you know, it's funny because like a lot of people I talked to that do like telecommuting, like to work and everything. Their businesses are just like to stay home, like it's working out well, you know, there's no law, there's actually people work more when they're delicate moving.


Yeah and I wish that they would do that because I personally am like I'd say a good 30% more productive at home than I am uh at work because I get really bad headaches and part of what makes them worse is a lot of different things making noise at the same time. And since I work in Billy and we're department of like 12 people, it's not uncommon for us all to be on the phone at the same time. That's too many voices for my brain to concentrate on at once. I can't just focus on the call I'm on, so I'll get these like terrible,


careful.


like have to put my head down nauseous headaches and at home I can control, I can turn the lights to what I can handle, I can keep the noise where I need it and I can get way less headaches. So I'm I wish that they would let me just say working from home. But the like my boss's boss's boss, the head of our division of a county. And she doesn't believe in working from home.


No.


She doesn't believe people can be productive that way. She also doesn't believe in work hours that are longer than eight hours a day. She doesn't believe people can be more productive


Mark.


more than eight hours a day. So she puts restrictions on our department based on her belief system.


So like that's it. Like after eight hours you just, your your work quality, this increases to the point of nothing,


Yeah, basically, she she believes that like


leave


after


that


you


later.


hit the eight hour mark, your brain is useless, it just stops and


Funny


I'm like,


when you're up for like 16 hours a day.


well, and I'm just thinking like, that doesn't make any sense at all. Because like even just thinking back to when I was in school, like even middle school and I even just high school and college, middle school as at school for at least 87 or eight hours and then I had 3 to 6 hours of homework and got completed. So clearly something was happening in my brain, like


Wait


it's not like


what?


I've done to the school day. My brain was just like off.


Right, just shuts down, you're like, okay, you're going to sleep good to hear.


All


I'm like who? Who worked eight hours goes home and goes to bed, you know?


well what does she cook on autopilot


Fuck on


at


someone,


night? Because that seems dangerous. Like I'm


I'm


presuming


gonna do


she


like


makes herself dinner. Does she just do


I


it?


would ask


Like


her, I'm like, I'm concerned about you driving because eight hours, obviously you should not be in charge of £4000 of steel to go down.


well what kills me is she's there before I am, she comes in at seven half. I leave late because my boyfriend and I share a car, so I have to wait for him to pick me up and he gets off two hours after I do. Um she's still there when I leave half the time. So she's working 12 hour days


If you


most


just want


she's


to go, that's too bad.


working 12 hours days, like three days a week, a couple of days a week. She goes home at her normal time, but the rest of time she's still there when I leave. So why is she able to work 12 hours successfully? But somehow the rest of us just stop at eight hours and the nothing else happens.


You guys have any sort of like overtime


She's


at all or now,


salaried. I'm sure she's salaried


like


so


what you like the rest of you, like you guys have anything like that or


theoretically. And and like she can't prevent that because like we're on calls with customers. So if they need people to stay late and answer the phone, like they need people to stay late and answer the phone, she can't stop that. But it's not very common for us to have


I'm


over time.


just curious like it's just like something she just says to avoid paying overtime, like


No, I I think she


well,