And I do agree with you. Yeah. Are you uh are you prepared for the really high cost of living in san Francisco?


Yeah. As of now I I'm not expecting anything to


All


september, let's see what


one


happens.


of the worst


But


places in the country just for life rental, everything.


but I'm ready to go anywhere. It's also I have made a video open as


Uh huh. All right. So I guess for uh


one or 2 minutes.


you know, if then I did one of these before uh like six months ago and it was good also.


Like this like a video call Oh


And that like that person I talked to that was fun. Like it's been fun talking to you too. So I was worried that like I was


I can tell you


somebody like we would have nothing to talk about


nothing to say.


rebound. Just like forever. Have a very awkward.


But it was quick.


Yeah. Yeah. It's good. So learn a quick $15 just to have fun. Uh one That's pretty good. So do you do you live alone or you have roommates?


I have a room right here. Yeah.


Yeah. Are they computer science also


No, no,


work?


no, no, none of them are from comparisons. one is in uh adding psychologic and the other one,


And


it's not stealing. He's doing the job. No, I think he started something but he dropped it and now he's full times of year


Oh, is that I was trying I was trying to think is uh isn't cricket the biggest sport?


in India. Yeah.


Yeah. Right. I thought so. I was trying to remember, right? Because I'm a sports fan, but that's one sport that I know like very uh it was interesting, but I just I don't know the rules. All


If you don't know the rules, then it's it's not interesting anything. Even for me when I came here uh when they discovered uh football over here


I


uh us Good World. I didn't understand anything like what they're doing and anything.


grounds asked me about that and they try to get me to explain it to them. And I mean there are just so many rules that don't even play traffic and played it take for it or so. And I like international soccer or Uh


That's that's pretty cool. Everyone will we know about that. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. That's universe. So everybody knows. Uh But I need to learn I'm trying to learn more about other sports as well, but Kirk is just a little intimidating.


I know.


I just see some of the scores and they just don't make any sense to me. They really get into it like in the university


they will.


and versus


There's a lot of rules. So you have to watch I think at least 7-8 match. And after that I think you will understand something.


Okay. Try sometime then. Uh


I think, yeah, we can go up. That's


All right. Well,


28 Year


All


next to talk to.


to talk to you and uh, good luck on the job market and everything. All


You, too.


All right. Take care. Okay.


Well, home screen. I don't think my persons joined quite yet. Yeah. Yeah, my hair looks okay. You can put it to the side, you know why? Yeah. Kind of sucks. I can't move my a little window. I should have just Mhm Yeah. Hair is just being, dude, it's cool. Oh yes. Morning. I don't think what we've got movement. Hello?


How are you? Mm.


am having some sound issues me just a second. Yeah. Okay. Why is my sound not working? Um Right, let's try. Looks okay. Hello? Yes,


Can you hear me?


I can. Can you hear me? Fantastic? I'll turn that down quite about. There we go already. Hi, my name is Brandon. Where are you?


Really? I'm Evan. How are you?


I'm tired this this week was crazy. We're getting ready for a busy time at work, so,


Where,


but


where are


we're


you


going to


in the country?


uh north Texas. We're about 10 minutes away from the Oklahoma border.


Um And I'm just north to Chicago. Okay.


I've actually only been outside


Actually


of texas


we can


like


present.


three times. I need to change.


Sure. Mhm. My wife is from Dallas. Okay.


I've been through Dallas


Thanks to


few


go.


times, but we live a little bit closer


look,


to uh we're in Wichita Falls,


stop.


so we're right by the Oklahoma border. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh.


Have you done one of these before?


I have


I


this


have?


is my


This


second


is my second


one. My purpose when I


efforts.


spoke to a super nice southern grandma lady from Georgia that told me her peach cobbler recipe.


No.


Yeah. And we tried, it was actually a pretty good recipe. Is this your 1st 1?


no, I've done one before, but I've had a bunch where nobody showed up. So, you


See


know,


My


you


get paid


a little Uh huh. I was sort of, you know, I was sort of hope for that. No offense. Oh,


completely good. The easiest money is always the best money. So


I mean, I wonder what they're, what they're looking at.


there you go. Maybe


Maybe


it's just the way


it's just


that people


a lot of people


from, I


from


always thought it was just


the asylum.


like the way that people from different areas of the country like converse or like maybe they're seeing that people are going to start getting heated on like political things or something like that. They're just seeing how quarantine is


I appreciate


affecting


that.


the human mind says my yet. Yeah.


So let's pick a random topic I suppose. Right. We get a lot of time to kill. Yeah.


Um So what is the, what is what's one of your hobbies? Yeah.


Well, I have two small kids, so they occupy most of my, all my time.


Okay. I feel that I've got a six year old that's currently playing roadblocks in the living room. So I get it


Boy or girl?


a little girl.


I have two boys. four and just about to be too.


So fun. So you've got still terrible sometimes but adorable face that you have to forgive And then Chinese version of that amplified by 10.


But the to the, yeah the two year olds are tough for the four year old. Can not all the time, but can least with an ipad, you know, if need be. But a two year old suggested a really tough bitch. As you know, or maybe


Well


you don't remember.


I


It's easy to


tried


forget.


to repress but unfortunately some of it still comes through everyone smile. But my child, when she was two, she was actually pretty manageable. She was actually really sweet and quiet and happy. But then when she had like 3.5 it was like right on the six


Hello?


months of her 3.5 it was like satan had taken up occupation and her body or something like she went to hell and just we had some trouble with her for about three months and then she went back to just being pretty mellow and that was the craziest


and she said


time that we ever had to wear.


sure that's weird. Kids are finding out.


It's


Is she in


it was just like a light foot home.


is she in school now?


We've actually


Fashion.


got her, uh luckily my mother


What could


in


be


law


my


is


response? Six?


and essentially homeschooling her now. Um it's through the districts of the public school that she would have been going to and that she had gone to for kindergarten, but they didn't necessarily, we didn't like the health precautions that they were taking for covid. Um So we decided to do the virtual learning and her mom, even with me working from home was like, hey, she's my only grandchild, let me help raise her. You know, she's awesome.


You're


So


lucky. Yeah.


Oh my God,


Yeah.


like I tell


Like


everybody


I don't


I meet


know, I


there, like, so


mean


your, your


narrator?


mother in law seems pretty cool. I'm like, oh, she's the best woman that's ever been born. And I think every day for allowing me to exist, she's just awesome.


Also, Yeah. Yeah. So what? It had been what? But there is if you had went in person, it's like it's totally in person or what's the


no, they have technically three different options. I think there's one where you can go just fully in person or fully virtual


virtue?


or they have what's a mix where it's essentially


Good.


like you're in the classroom most like half of the time and then the other half you're doing virtual stuff for like electives,


Wait,


like art and key and music and all that. But just our our governor for texas just isn't doing a very good job with Covid. And then our local county is also just being very um, we're going to listen to all the rednecks


So


and hillbillies that still want to play golf and be able to go to the shooting range and bowling and not wear masks. So


we


the kids


we were like, you


have


know,


to do, the kids have to wear masks in school. Do you know,


they do, we actually have one city that's right outside of ours. It's just like a little kind of country town where they just made it toward elementary kids do not have to have a mask. But then they also had a massive outbreak at their high school. We're out of 128 kids that go to the high school. I think this is that 62 of them tested positive in one day. But


terrible, terrible. I mean, luckily, I mean, my kids are luckily we're not, we just got caught a break. But that's what


absolutely.


I mean, our, our community luckily


And


took this relatively seriously. And so it takes it relatively seriously, uh,


hospital.


early on. So not that we've been spared, but you know, and there's no people wear the masks here. There's no, I haven't seen any


Anti


now


maskers,


any fight. People just wear it here and it's not a big deal. So we're fortunate.


we have a few people down here, but


but out


don't


there.


I mean it's


I mean,


mostly


especially.


just like The crackheads at 7:11 and the rednecks that driving the massive trucks, they think they're better than everybody. But other


Brother


than that, most people tend


course.


to be sticking with the mask. And I mean social distancing is all for, you know, nothing down here. But they least do the mask and try to keep everything sanitized, but we're still not, you know, like going out to eat or anything.


Right. Where we haven't been, uh, we've done take out obviously. But


Yeah, we've got tons


I can't


of time,


imagine. I mean, restaurant seems to be the, I mean, that movie theaters, I don't know what people are thinking going to a movie theater. You know


Like


I mean


why


what's the


do you


want


can't you what? It's not that


convenient damp and


here


just like


just


kind


like


of icky most of the time and be like, this is a good place to go during a viral epidemic,


yeah I mean I got a I got on a plane once but only for something very important but I wouldn't just do that and even then I checked every precaution I could possibly


Absolutely.


take. Uh But yeah it's just people are crazy. That's what you learned through this. If you didn't know it already. People are nuts. Although my wife thinks I'm nuts. I'm doing this right now. So


When we first started


we've started


with this, I was like, no, I don't want to do video calls with people for like a buck and then we get started getting more


Conservative.


into it. I was like, okay, this is actually pretty neat. You know, it doesn't take, you kind of get to have, you know, a little bit of fun with it and you get a couple of bucks hoist on stuff. Why not? Yeah.


I uh I can't get her I can get her to do a bunch of stuff but I can't get her to do uh the video calls.


My life is actually getting ready for her video call because mine was scheduled for 9:00 and um her is is scheduled for 10, so as soon as I get she's essentially hopping down and sit in my chair and just using my work computer for two well


I hope those goes as well as this one appears


to be other words when we still got a little ways to go.


Yeah That's a crazy thing to me is like


I mean


they're always like Okay well it has to be 25 minutes long and I'm like Man, even


and


if


even


you're just


like super


you're super


vibrant with


viable,


somebody like you all just get along


look at the


great. 25 minutes is a


Forget


long time to be forced to talk. Mhm.


I mean a close forget someone. You're forgetting a close friend even what you know what is there to talk about? 25 minutes? I mean


You know after 15 minutes, like even my best buddy, I'm like Alright man, like let's do something else, this is too much.


it's not I mean we could talk I suppose we could start talking about abortion and you know we could pick the most random controversial topics imaginable. Um


there


Do you


that's


do I'm sorry I didn't I missed you.


Oh that's where


So


my


last


where my


conversation


last doctor


with


says


is a little bit political but she was on the opposite


you know what


side


all the


for


time.


me that she was she was pleasant about it, so I was happy.


so she went from peach cobbler to politics.


Yeah went from peach cobbler to how she hates donald trump but at least he wears a suit and I didn't understand that one but I just I rolled with it.


That's funny. Um Are you on you do you do you do mechanical turk as well? Oh


actually just signed up for that I think like three days ago


thanks.


and I've been a little bit busy at work, I was looking into it to see if it was cool but I just I haven't had a chance to actually start anything on it but I think tomorrow I'll have a little bit of time to actually be able to look into it.


It's not as the each one is not like this one I'm prolific. You know each one is going to be high quality, there's money to be made there but you have to uh you have to be more focused.


Mhm. I had one


Aaron


a couple days ago


I don't


where


get


like I did everything


it.


right on it and then I missed the last um attention check on it and it was like for £99 or something and they waved it because of that last attention check that I felt and I know that I felt I was like, oh, I should have switched that because I clicked the wrong one and they felt that I was like, man, that's fair. But it still sucks.


Did you write them? Did you write them?


I did. They haven't said anything, but I was,


A lot of times there are a lot of times they'll work with you


yeah, they've been um everybody that


think


I've


everybody


worked with on its own bars with super cooperative except for one,


so


but they just, they didn't respond, but they ended it early for something. So I don't know


Yeah. No I mean mturk you can just definitely nice ice tend to stick with like the academic surveys but there's all kinds of crazy things you can do transcribing and I've done my fair share of madness late at night.


See my wife


See


was


my wife


just telling


was just


me


about,


about a week and a half


everything


ago before


happened


I started


over priced


looking into it


into


about it and I was


about


like, okay,


it


that actually looks pretty cool. And I was doing


has


some research


Jason research.


and you know, it was going pretty cool. And I just, I never actually got to the point of actually sitting down and starting anything on it, but


So how long have you been on prolific? I assume that's where you got that. That's where at least I'm getting this from I assume.


Yeah, I got mine from prolific and I've


Thank


been


you.


on here for about uh Let's say three months or so, just a little bit after March. So I'd say probably like april 10th - 15th or something, somewhere right around there. And I mean, we've made enough to, you know, be happy with it because I just sit here while I'm working from home and if I see a little notification pop up, I just click through it real quick while listening to music. I'm good to go.


Yeah right now it's uh hard to complain.


Right. It's a great way to waste


direct


time,


way.


because


Fuck.


at least you're making a little bit of money.


And it's like a little bit of currency trading too, you know because you're getting in towns.


Makes you feel important because you're like, oh, I have to switch this from british talent so that I could use it over here.


No and sometimes I mean the crazy number comes up, you know like £15,, you know?


Yeah, I got one a couple days ago, it was for like 17 and I was like, that's not right. That's going to say like 75 Since or something and it was 17 and I was like, Wow, that's awesome. We get to eat pizza tonight


Well


instead of bread. Uh huh.


I feel like right during the I guess it sounds like you were on it. I mean I I think I've only been on the beginning of the year but right? When Covid the March, I feel like there was a million Covid this and Covid that


You don't


study.


handle


But it was crazy. It was just beyond sad. It was beyond lucrative right? At that moment,


Exactly. And that's what me and my wife we're talking about one of the first times we're talking about it because she got like 13 covid surveys in one day. Each one of them was for, and I got like six, but each one of them was like an hour or like a half hour long and for like $3. And it was just like, man, I've done nothing but click on buttons for Covid. To me, it's like, yeah, it's kind of


And it's


like


there


a bummer. Do you want


to watch something


people.


funny on Youtube? Like that's how we've been dealing with coronavirus is just watching epic fail compilations and just pretending it's not existing over at home.


But it's funny like once you get into it, like you learned the uh the attention check like you would think they would get more clever about it because they've become so obvious like you know exactly what you're looking for?


You can scan through


That's


and


scary,


it's anything that says, please select or something along those legislators. Check click.


sometimes I get a little more, I've seen stuff like the really creative ones, like the first one, it will be like I consent yes or no, the really creative ones will be like to tell you to click no, you know, I don't consent. But those are there was a very few and far between, but you do have to be mindful. Sometimes


The


there are they're real, real crazy ones out there. Mhm.


one that was like, it was actually almost entertaining. It was like just to make sure that you're paying attention and that it was like this weird little like word


Holy


puzzle thing and like you have to select the correct answer is something that is pretty simple. But it was like the most unique attention check that I've seen so far. Okay, cool. Well, at least there, you know, trying to make it better than please select strongly disagree well. Mhm. So how is the weather just north of Chicago


Well it's been actually last couple days seven, it's been actually really amazingly nice. Um So what about what about in texas?


Oh north. It's just, it's hot and humid. Pretty much all the time. We got two days of it being in the sixties And then it dropped down to like 40 And then it spiked back up to 95 the same day. Mhm. Take it.


Yeah, no 95


Everybody was like I was


we


here


don't


and I was like,


have


no, it's not, it's never here until about like january and then all the trees


our


dying, it


first


just


started.


feels like McGee crap and then ices over


I


one


don't know


time and a bunch of people getting


what's


rex


true.


and like script like ours and then it's over and it's hot again,


Yeah, no, we definitely we have a winter with with snow and shovels and Mhm.


We have summer


Well,


and then we have diet summer and the closest thing that we've gotten to an actual winter was just a freak blizzard and I think it was like 2010 or 2011


come on.


and it like it blanket, it is more than, I think texas has ever been hit. But other than that it's just, I've lived here my entire life and we've seen real snow I think twice


Mhm. Yeah, I grew up I mean, I grew up in new york


the


originally, so I've I grew up at snow,


right. See I'm envious because me and my uh at least I will now um I hop on my truly


my truth.


app sometimes and I go and search for like houses and like Anchorage Alaska like Seattle wash and I'm like whenever we discover the next blah blah blah and we become filthy rich, this is the house that we're moving into. And she's like, okay sure, whatever do. Well,


Mhm. Can't be cheap in Anchorage, which I assume.


It's really not. They got some nice houses out there. They're like $3,000 a month for like a two bedroom. It's like 800 square feet. But I mean, I think if I'm going


what,


to move anywhere, it's probably not going to be


you


somewhere


know?


where it's like 800 square feet for $3,000 a month.


no, it's all that, I mean, that's like new york prices. Yeah,


we have, I think 1200


it's


square


four,


feet, 300 and we pay 750.


right, When I assume uh, amazon to Anchorage, it's not exactly, there might be some delays, you know?


That's just the amazon


It


plane


was on


that flies


plan.


in and lands


Well,


on the river. I was a moose or


police


two and it's


in


like,


cities,


here's your pepper


it's


shaker.


like, it's hard to believe it's the same country, you know?


Exactly. Well you gotta wait through


No.


all the maple syrup and poutine and stuff before you get there. So how many jokes about Canada and Putin? But I had a poutine from a restaurant here in town a couple heard not a couple days ago before Covid and it was actually fantastic and I totally understand why they just,


I


I don't


lived in Montreal


know,


for a year. Yeah, I mean, it's basically it's basically glorified cheese fries, you know I mean? But what's not to like, I mean,


hug in your


I'll


mouth


give your


and


mouth,


it's like, here you go buddy, just have a better day. Like especially as a fat kid, like as soon as I figure out what was in poutine, I was like, I need to have that. Mhm.


mm hmm. Yeah, if you if you use a different word and just describe it as, you know, fancy cheese surprised,


Yeah, it's um


but it's not,


yeah, essentially just fancy cheese for is oh, man, so what do you have planned


thank you.


for the rest of the weekend? Yeah. Uh huh


whole lot.


I


We


think


have swim


I'm going to complain.


class, luckily swim classes still continuing. So we have swim class tomorrow


Okay, that's not


without


too man.


kids. I'm sorry.


that's not too bad. One class can always be fun.


Now we're lucky. Uh, it's a blessing that it it's continuing.


absolutely, luckily we were with my hobby, I played dungeons and dragons because I'm a massive nerd. And uh with my hobby, we went electronic for a little bit at the beginning of quarantine um playing online and then we finally, about a month and a half ago got to the point where we were playing in person again and it's every other week and it's just me and a bunch of fat dudes getting together and just, you know, doing random fantasy crap on the table. But it's just having that hobby, like actually with my friends and being able to get out of the house, everyone soil is just it's made a world of difference like with being able to at least remember what day it is because I'm like it's not frightened. Okay.

Yeah. Right. Mm. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Absolutely.


No, it's it's just funny that whatever your, whatever anybody's into that, uh, it uh, a lot of things you can do the computer. But no, I was even here, I had a I have a neighbor who's, you know, even a traitor. And he was saying because obviously a lot of that you can do from a computer anywhere. But he was saying actually that uh, being in the room together because actually people talking and sharing ideas live can actually


bank or Mhm.


produce good results. You know, imagine that. So


But


it's just uh how does it, how would it work online? Because like I've never really played but because you have you have it's all about like having physical cards. Right,


well it depends on what type of software website


Well.


you're using. Like the main one that we used is called roll 20 because you know, you roll 20 sided dice and all that stuff, but it essentially makes


that's


it as a virtual


Right.


tabletop. So when you're actually looking at maps and stuff, you're able to move little avatars that you've made to essentially work like


People,


you're there in person and they've got all of the books and the rules that are built into it because the DND is just a fancy way of saying


Thank


that


you.


you know you really want to play pretend with your friends and you want to include math and primitive Phil. But online it's actually pretty cool. There's a bunch of


different


you


software so that you can use with it. But it's mostly just um knowing that you have enough people to actually be able to utilize the websites that they have. Because if you only have like two or three people sometimes it's not that great, but if you have like four or five then you can start putting in like api Softwares that actually process roles and enemies and stuff like that for


Doctor.


Do you like do you like video, do you video chat during it or no? Is it all just uh


Sometimes it's a video


I wanted


chat


to


most


check


of the time it's


up,


just voice. Um it's just audio because a lot of the guys are just like, I don't need my web came on because I'm, you know, playing a goblin


but like I just like the software itself, you have to like separately do it or like the software itself just hand you can you can like uh you know what I'm saying? But you have to enter a separate like group chat


We do have a separate


you gave


group


me?


chat that we use just because it's a better quality. We utilize discord for it most of the time. But the website actually does have built in like, audio and visual video capabilities, but it's just it's kind of litchi


Thanks.


because they tried to focus more on the actual processing for the main reason that people like come to the website and they put that in just because some people requested it, because they didn't want to have to use something outside. So with people with, like, huge high powered gaming computers, it works great. But for somebody with me that has a crap top from work, it's like, I can't really do that, I'm going to use this work.


Right. Right, Right. Makes sense. So what's


what


like an optimal number of players?


I've played with just two people before, essentially just passed through the night. I've also


What?


D M and the D. M. Is essentially the person that's telling the story I personally ran as a DM up to 12 people


People.


and that was just absolutely Fucking Chaos, usually right around 4-6 people depending on who they are, because everybody generally plays differently. Like you've got some people that are just like I'm going to murder and steal everything, or the people that want to act out every aspect of their character um and stuff like that. So as long as we know the people that you're working with, usually about 4 to 6 is the best because you can have multiple things going on with everyone, but also everyone else are like, each particular player can have like specific personal things that are going on so that they can grow their character or get that new magic spell or whatever the hell they're trying to do. Yeah.


Can I ask just what age did you start?


Um I actually started um the first time I ever heard about it, I was like 12, but I never really started until I was like 16 or 17. I played one game and I hated it because the guy that was running it was horrible at doing it. Um And then I started my job at Applebee's in about six months into Applebee's. One of the other guys that I was working with was like hey do you want to come over to my house and play D. And D. And I was like 19 at the time, and I was like, I don't know man, I tried it before and I didn't really like it and he's like well I'm buying pizza wings and there's going to be free beer, so come and just hang out and if you like it, maybe you'll play. And I was broke and working at Applebee's. So I was like, yeah, absolutely, I'm going to come over for free food and my friends and I ended up making a gnome rogue. uh that had a bad habit of just stabbing people if they got into any confrontation. Um Like they'd be like, hey how's it going? He was just like panic and stab somebody and then just run off. Um And from there I was just like, you know, this might be too nerdy for me or something, I've never gotten this deep into something, but then it went just absolutely bonkers from there and like it's like my biggest hobby. I ended up, like I started painting minis on the shelf back here, I've got a few of them, and then that's a mask that my buddy three D. Printed, that he's gonna he's throwing his characters.


Of the Cool. Well, I think we're at uh 25 minutes, right?


I believe we just passed mind showing account of 30, but I know I got here a few minutes early, so as long as the years have shown past 25, we should be


I


good.


think we I started at at right around nine. So


Okay, so we should be good to go, man.


pleasure talking to you. Take


Absolutely


care. Stay


you


safe. Okay. Bye. Bye.


Mhm. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. What?


right. I have bad.


Hello? Yeah,


Okay.


can you hear me?


Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me?


I can hear you but it sounds like almost like staticky.


yeah, that's just even when I use my parents with,


no problem. I get started by saying you, so we're all good.


I'm sorry. Okay.


No, it's no problem. Well, my name is Gabrielle.


Are never figure.


How you doing today? You know, I'm a little sleepy. I don't know about you. I'm on Eastern Standard time, so it's like nine. I have.


Thank you. I'm from pennsylvania.


now


Where you from?


I'm from michigan. Yeah.


Not too far away. My company moves in michigan.


How do you know a part?


No.


Mm That's


And that's


fair.


my dog.


That's totally fair. Yeah, I


All right. Um, I'm just working on art history for college.


uh I never see you go to Okay.


after


I


you


toured


do it?


there. I go to the University of Michigan. Yeah.


Good good colleges. Uh huh. Mhm


So how has your university responded to Covid?


Guys, Okay. They responded. Uh huh. I don't have to be good. As I can say. It's good with the bad. It's good there.


Uh huh. Okay. Are you guys like doing like hybrid and stuff like that?


Yeah. Listen, our classes are online, but they kept a couple of comparison which available control the dumb ones to the other person with my english classes very soon, but they won't let me um, like the national people be impressed and like the one for me until I actually see here's one. Uh huh.


that's crazy. That's insane. So I'm like a business student. There is legitimately zero reason for my,


If


any of my none of my thoughts should be in person. And yet some of them are like hybrid because you choose whether or not you're in person. Meanwhile I do have like two nurses to the roommates. They don't


What?


want to the hospital all the time.


Mhm Yes. Yeah. I don't I don't know why they're being so we're here that they can sit with


What? Uh It's so weird though because I'm like, Like 15 years they're going to look back and be like, Oh, maybe we should have done this instead.


Probably uh you're starting football back up here.


Same. Same. Which it's probably the, I think they're done missing. That could have done because I don't know about y'all. But we just hit like a new spike in cases like our Quarantine housing has just hit like 100% capacity.


Right. Yeah, we didn't like to. Mhm.


It's super embarrassing. And then like one of our big rivalry games is on, not only is it on a saturday. Not only is it a night game, but it's also on Halloween. So yeah, when I found that out, I was like, oh, we're gonna die. Okay.


is nothing in the world.


No, it's gonna be really bad. I'm probably gonna leave like the city for a little bit. Just because that's atrocious. Never.


Are you going to be impressed? Like on campus? The whole global, this is necessary.


No. So I guess um we have like a week long break for thanksgiving. I don't know when it starts but a week off for thanksgiving and then everything is going online, but I'm pretty sure there's still letting people stay in the dorms. And the dorms have gotten. Yeah. Exactly. And then I've heard the dorms have gotten so bad. One of them legitimately just had to shut down and


So


just


well,


complete lockdown because they just had so many cases. Okay.


yeah, we're also doing that. Thanksgiving great. Um we're going home and will be going online from I'm actually all right, how many freshmen one? Mhm. We can make the walls that they're coming down.


Oh so okay. So I wasn't already last year I quit. But how is it being like an R. A. In all of this? Because I can only imagine, but I haven't found a chance to talk to any ras


I did not actually having to interact with my residents, which is actually pretty nice because I don't want to talk to.


I feel that in my soul you have no idea how much I feel that. Oh


So I have


I'm


to counseling sessions that's like that's, that's still absolute partial your afternoon. It's stupid that I don't know why I have to counsel them.


Yeah, you're not trained on that.


Mhm. So I check in like as much as you need someone to talk to you about the bones, unless it's like a roommate issue, it's an issue that come talk to me. So they give up for two seconds on zoom bill. I'm perfectly fine. This is stupid. And then that's it and that's what I put in my room.


You right mm. Yeah that it's hilarious because it's so ridiculously tragic that you can't really do anything except laugh about it because they shouldn't be doing that. I don't know if you heard but like rrs went on strike. So we had um are like graduate student employees went on strike. So a lot of like discussion classes were cancelled. Um All right, the door of my house was open really loudly. Um One of my my germ, I'm a german minor so my german classes got canceled because like half the department is run by graduate students. She cancelled class. Then our our race went on strike because they're like wearing these dorms with these idiot freshman. You're not providing any any safety precautions, no hazard pay nothing. And our dining hall staff went on strike as well. Uh huh.


When I'm on straight, I'm not getting hazard pay anything either, but we're smart enough to strike it.


Do you guys get paid at your university as an R. A.


So we get 3000 ft food and then we get I think $500 a semester.


Yes. We just got free housing and food and they said be happy with that. Yeah.


All right. I don't know when the 500 every new thing. Um I just take care. Listen,


Maybe they're considering


great.


manager hasn't pay.


I have no clue. I don't know if it was having cocktails in the eyes last year have been said if it was something needed last as well. Uh It's kind of yesterday


Yikes.


counts himself, so so in that with them, I just busted a party on friday. Um 20 people in a two person doing the real


whoa. Mhm.


the out 76 um after beer cans, uh what people Vodka that we're finished with an additional two that were being partially consumed independence of whiskey. Um and another two, and they had like another two more 12 packs of beer and Mhm, wow. So


Mhm.


you know from the door, because we saw a couple of people like run over and we felt we were going to get them to people and whatever, you don't have a poor people in the room and we knocked on the door and you do the open, stood up and they're all crammed in. There were all of it wasted and we didn't know what to do. We call that coordinator, We have coordinators wondering and she said


And


I hope


with.


these you gotta have. So we show up um a


Uh huh.


coordinator shows up and it turns out that half of the people in that door we're not from and say they're from pitt no mass no anything. They just campus in the middle of the night and decided to party. Um Yeah just like they let them in our dorms which you're not supposed to have people from other buildings. And the only thing that happened was the police effort. This is bullshit.

Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Uh huh. Mm hmm. Yeah. Uh huh.


I don't I'm like what pisses me and I was like a thing that pissed me off as an R. A. Whereas like if I were to do something like that I would lose my job and there and they just tell them don't don't do that, peter don't do that. So man thought that's so bad. And you're just looking like why What, what is the point of me even being here? Why did I have impressive what was the point? Because you're not gonna do anything, but they're just gonna find another location and do whatever they want to do elsewhere.


It's


They're


so


not we need kicked out. Like what? It doesn't it doesn't make sense. Why don't why isn't there some level of accountability on their end as well? Whereas, like there's a lot more repressions if I do that stuff, but I'm only like a year two years older than them.


You've seen the infamous video of Penn State. You're at the beginning of the semester on the freshman core exception. It was actually the first day I showed up because I was I was like two days wait because I'm on the R. T. C. And I was training in university. So I show up on keep this and that night that night midnight one am um my my window open and I sit here like loud child and stuff. I look out the window Probably 300 freshmen. No mass all set to all except stuff like playing, putting on its growth.


I don't know.


Oh right. Oh we're going to uh just show up there with a bunch of the other is the police showed up like we caught people and nothing happened to him. It was like the worst thing ever. Yeah


God,


this is


it's


this.


atrocious. That is atrocious. I'm so sorry that you're dealing with that as it All right. Because I I know much has to suck.


Well yeah


wow. Are


beginning


you waiting


rest


hard from the sophomore? Junior Senior?


continue.


Mhm. Okay. So hopefully are you doing this again next year?


I will be doing it next year. Mhm


have this, You know what? I have faith in you.


I'm only a one my army ROTC scholarship so I picked my tuition. If I'm not, I picked up from my housing and food so I'm doing like not having to pay anything so I'm going to make this prices.


I understand. I understand. I get it. Um I couldn't have done that so kudos to you for your mental strength because those kids destroyed me.


I am partially regretting my decision but you know, and eventually stable coming into this.


I was gonna say I'm sure your family is geeked about it though. Maybe we'll do you wait do you have a do you have a car?


I give my car on campus.


Okay. So I was gonna say maybe they'll like if your gas or something and just so thank you.


Mhm. I paid for everything so for my college and stuff. Uh huh I want,


Financially independent.


you know it. Mhm. Um I noticed you're, you're like the rainbow. They don't know binding. Yeah.


yes,


Are you LGBT?


I am. I am the B.


Okay. Cool. I'm okay. Yeah. That's what I thought I had tied in with all that. That is why I am financially independent. My parents are not thrilled.


I know. I under Okay. It's all coming together now. I see.


Yeah. They're not still the pound it, but it is what it is. I faced my own stuff.


At least you know that's why you can do this for another year. You're really here just like this is nothing. This is nothing, wow.


Yeah.


Yeah, I'm not out to my parents fully yet. They just think that I'm just an ally right now. Okay.


Yeah,


Oh,


partially out. Like every time I see them like my my friend Sarah, she's a good friend of mine. She's also an on here if


have


you see and you're like the only two gay people and are as you see um and she's my friend And whenever I mentioned her, my parents like, oh, you should date her, date her now.


Yeah. Yeah. It's for my sister. I have three sisters, all three of them though that I'm by and it's terrible because like I'm also so I'm like I'm bisexual, but I'm also Demi sexual. You heard you heard of that? Okay. Because I'm like sometimes I tell people and it's like a 5050 shot of people knowing what I'm talking about.


yeah, I got


But


you.


so um I did I came out to my parents saying that I was Demi sexual like to a year or two years ago somewhere around there. They did not take it very well. So now like every time my mom brings up, she's like, oh my god, when you get married and then to die, your husband is going to be devoted to. Uh I mean when I say this will just look at each other and she'll just casually checks me be like your wife, gorgeous partner.


You're a hero. You know, I'll let you see what you say. But in my head I'm thinking,


Yeah. I'm hoping like I think my dad is starting to catch on a little bit and I also like said to get like three piercings this week. So next, when I go home for the holiday, I think my dad is gonna be like, are you, are you you know, are you just, I'm sure, I think my mom is just in denial about it. I think she kind of knows, but I think she's in like full denial. Yeah.


Yeah. My, my mom is definitely in denial and my dad just doesn't really bring it up. Oh


Which I don't understand. I don't, I really don't get like what the issue is. I'm like, it's just people, you know, it could be worse. Like we can be into bestiality,


well God,


we could be into drugs and they really want. There are worse things.


there is a,


Oh


my, my parents played the, the concern in the,


No.


well, you have the military, you know, things might have changed, but you know, so you should just not ever mention it and you should just get a wife and just, well, no. Cool.


Does she not realize that there's like a whole L G B T Q plus community within the ability?


yes. Not like I've met so many like other like, uh huh This


it's the


isn't,


way of a deer tick tock.


I do not have Tiktok.


Okay. You need to get Tiktok because first of all, I'm not even about like the military life, but somehow I managed to get on like lesbian military Tiktok. I don't know. But I guarantee you there's a ba jillion, gay military. Just people on Tiktok, they love doing the coming home and surprising my partner with some right of outfit. That's like their favorite trend.


Mhm. The guy's been on like Tinder and stuff and I can't tell you how many like, you know, like uniforms. I'm seeing like, like look at this like this is not the darkness is not like 1920 to calm down. Mom, Dad,


You start taking screenshots and just sending it, your mom be like, it's not just me. It's not just


there was


me.


so many of us.


Oh, so I have a question sober. It's our ROTC. Right? It's the way I was. I had residents last year for an ROTC and I think I said R. T. O. C. For a whole semester And No one corrected me. Mhm. But


So is my wife.


so my question is, is everyone in ROTC because you said you were in training in New Jersey? Do you guys all going to New Jersey?


So, um, I kind


I know.


of screwed myself with New Jersey. So what we do is we have this thing called advanced camp and that's between junior and senior years in the summer. Um, I am just now a junior last summer I went to serve as we call it out for, which is like the short tended abbreviation of oppositional forces. So I spent in health in Fort Dix New Jersey. It's awful. The whole state can suck it. Um, and I slept out in the woods like the whole complex camping and stuff and eight camera. Yes. And are you supposed to get paid for it? We were supposed to get, there's these things called Oml points. I don't even know what a normal stand for but if it helps rank you. Um So when you go to like applied, like if I want to be aviation and military intelligence um were all ranked in the L. M. L. Points. So before you have the better you are. So I was supposed to get that this campaign and we show up on the first day and

Yeah. Uh huh. Oh yeah. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Mhm mm. Yeah. Mm. Uh huh. Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm mm, mm hmm.


I


I was


could.


like a 3.5 hour drive for me. Which is an awful, but like I get there it's like 7:00 in the mornings or just drove like you know in the dark and I show up and we'll


Thank


all


you.


walks in there and they go, oh yeah because covid


I don't.


you're not being paid and you're not paying all no points and you can't


Boy,


leave now that you're here. Yeah,


they said because of Covid.


they blamed it on which was bullshit because they were still paying the like the junior is going to be seniors who had to be there, but because we have volunteered to go, they said fuck you guys, it was so but I was raining like more than half the time and yeah baby, they fucked up apparently with its normally at Fort Dix, they're not for dicks, that's where we were, It was knocks down like Kentucky whether it is. Um But it wasn't, it was Fort Dix,


Very quick.


they like move it. Um And they had to do like smaller groups, So it was all 10 today and then I think lost it. And one of the university model, they fucked up the housing situation


No, no,


as


no.


well. So they have barracks for all of the juniors and seniors, they did not have barracks for being out for. So we had to like use our like ponchos and build like a giant like 10th network out in the woods by ourselves.


Right. Okay. That sounds like my nightmare.


It was like the worst thing that I've done and I was so mad the entire time


I would be fuming because why didn't they tell you that you, Did they tell you? Like while you're already like there that you were getting paid?


they told us they go all the way up to it. Like like literally the day before that we all went up, they're like, oh yeah, you know, you're the gameplay, your gang L. M. L. You know, um you're gonna like you're going to accept this and you just literally, the first thing they say is yeah. Well it sucks to be you guys know hey no ml and now you can't leave you. Have you


That


showed


meant


up?


that they could


we


have been,


are


You mean obviously be like, hey, you're not gonna get paid with it if you still want to come. You can


I don't think anybody who just showed up hope


of course not.


so they look like no natural. Just not say anything.


That is disrespectful.


Mhm. It sucked.


So whoa, okay. Sorry, that just you were there for a month.


Oman. 30, it was 32 days. A little bit over.


Uh huh. That sounds terrible. But you did it, you know, you can do it.


Yeah. I'm gonna do it will be better once. Hopefully things will be better this summer. And it will go back to fort Knox and you know, I'll be able to actually sleep inside some of the time. And apparently


man.


at fort Knox they have like actual like you go in there chow hones for like hot food and you don't have to eat your pre packaged bullshit. All right. So awful. Well with the benefit was that lost 22 lb


is


bollocks.


that a good thing?


I mean I had maybe 10


No.


that like to get me down to like healthier and I want past that. So is a little unhealthy then.


Okay. I was saying flashbacks to win. Um my residents were like one of them, his name is Cameron and he was like uh because my nickname is G so he just goes, G I gained £25 and this man was skinny and I was like where he goes? It's muscle and I'm like, okay, because I was wearing because there's there's no meat on your body third. Uh huh. He was like, yeah, you know, I was I guess he wasn't like another weight class, which was like a big deal to him. I don't remember why, but he was really hype about it.


Maybe you should take a rest for your stuff. Playing.


I don't know.


Um That sounds gross.


I just remember. I think he was on I think he was in the Navy branch.


All


Mhm. I could be wrong because he was either in the Navy Ranch or the Air Force branch. I don't it was like a room full of six guys. They were all in ROTC and they were they were they were like split between Navy and Air Force.


I see


No, I think he was in the Navy because his roommates were in the Air Force because they stole a propeller. I


possible.


was definitely supposed to report that I didn't,


I see that in your dean commission public hunting sign that's actually stuck to my wall. Right.


I'm sure that makes a great like icebreaker story isn't All right.


Yeah. So what I was doing was I was illegally trespassing on a an abandoned military installation when I found um one of the bunkers was being used by the pennsylvania Game commission. So the first thing that came to mind was I stole your sign right


I'm


out


not


of there.


judging. It's the way I've stolen a great money aside


We had a whole bunch and I got like a fallout shelter one. I've got a whole bunch of like the ones


balance.


put it down


That's


despite and stuff


amazing. I really want to steal a street sign. I think I really want to try and go steal like the street sign for the house that I grew up. That just like I have that with me forever renew a family. They I don't know if they stole it or if they found it because it was broken. But I like the topical they stole it just because it's much more interesting. But a traffic light


who?


they can sit in their basement. And I learned that those things are in fact very heavy. No, I tried to lift it and I was like this fella in your car. You would be dead.


jeez they were just they didn't have a chilling in the basement.


Mhm. No. And their basement wasn't finished. It's like the only thing done.


Yeah it's not even like it like fits into their theme. It's just like a random


It literally looks like a dungeon and then do a number on the floor with big track like Yeah


cancel your normal thing to do.


you know they were a little they were a little crazy, they were really funny but they were crazy wow. Oh I'm still thinking about your month long camping extravaganza honey.


Great to do it again this summer. It will be worse. At least when I was last summer when near the opposition forces you gotta let you get to relax a little more and like you get to like actually like sleep through the night every night unless we're attacking someone they had to when like the


they offer.


junior is going to be seniors. I don't know what to call them Alice. Like they were like when they went in the barracks, they were like out in the woods and they have to make patrol bases like big circles. Two thirds of them would have to stay at a week at all times. So you do have chefs and you can never sleep may and that's sucking


Yeah it couldn't be me can it be me?


honestly I was down there and I was like, I don't


What?


want to be in the army anymore. I think I even told my friend that that we drove together. I was like, Steph, I do not want to be in the army. I want to go.


that's not funny but it's hilarious.


We was so dead. We're like nothing to do. Like we didn't have phones, we didn't have books or anything or


Wait


is


they did you just not bring books or did they tell you don't bring books?


well they have a set packing list and you couldn't bring anything outside of the packing list. So like if we had known would have been sleeping outside literally the entire fucking month. We would have actual tent up because they don't we don't matter. We don't need to like be like and in and stuff. We were just we were Yeah. No, they didn't have to stick with the patent lists. They inspected our gear when we showed up. Um So yeah, so then we ended. It's called a huge it's um it's when you use your poncho and you make like a little like makeshift and it's supposed to be for like Two days math not stretched out to 32. So we're tying all our ponchos together and like made like a giant like dome in the woods that we're trying to sleep under secret ring own stuff.


no wow. You know?


Would I do it again? Not willingly.


Uh huh wow okay that's just it's just it's gonna be a big bat yanks for me. Thank you max wow. Mhm Okay well On that note I don't want to hold you I think we hit the 25 minutes.


Yeah. About 30 now and we


but it was great reading you.


it's great to meet you too.


It's the way that I'm definitely going to be telling this story like couldn't like which french is insane, But I wish you the best of luck. I hope you never have to do that intense camping again. I wish you luck with your residents and I hope all of them get their butts kicked when they get home for being just disrespectful.


This gas. I hope you have to you know enjoy the messy of semester. Hopefully you know nobody gets covid and they they this football thing does not go hardly horribly wrong and fuck everything up. We can. No, I have a good one.

Yeah. Mhm. Yes. Uh huh. All right. Right.


Yeah, mm. Yeah. Yeah. Right, Honey. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Mhm Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Mhm.


What's up? Can you hear me?


Hold on. There you go. There should be working high


Cool. Let me go to the next stage.


good. I think we're supposed to do that once we're done.


Oh whoops, just stop it there.


Alright, 90 stop right there. How you doing man


I'm doing pretty well. That was yourself.


sign?


Yeah. Same here where you where you at


I'm in Washington


uh D. C. Or state? I've got some family up there in Seattle it's pretty cool. I'm not here in Atlanta.


Uh We're actually shutting down again so mhm.


Yes it's a completely different world here is technically but I've been um keeping inside mostly all year myself. Finally trusted. So


No. Yeah, especially like people don't seem to understand the point of a mask, which is it's not to keep, its not to keep you know us safe. It's for people who are sick and in every layer helps.


people just not even believing in general so it's just the whole thing because here I don't think we'll ever shut down again. Um city our state. So I've just been and it's cold, there's no reason to be outside.


Oh God. You know it's it's freezing man


Well what's the weather like up there? It's cold here.


brain, lots of rain. But I


probably


mean lately


previous.


it hasn't been raining as much has been pretty sunny, but you know, it's fall and it's starting to get cold or the rain's coming And we're hitting degrees of like 30 at night, sometimes into 20, so it's going to get


man


it sitting


I


there.


hate I hate cold. My gear is always Usually like 70° but right now it's like 40 ISH. And we don't know what to do really when it dropped below 60 we don't know what to do. So they gave


No. Yeah.


that sir.


Yeah, it's


How long


rough.


young, how long you been doing, niece?


These tests things just a few weeks since I lost my job.


Oh man. Because uh everything


because,


going on.


because because we're, We're really close quarters, they tried to keep us with masks on and you know, limiting amount of people so we don't have like 20 people will normally we have like 50. Um But yeah,


I'm sorry to hear that, but I mean


that's


this is at least


good.


something.


That's good. That's how shit goes, you know,


Yeah, but I mean at least you're safer inside because I know a lot of people, My sister just got it at her job maybe like last week and it's like, you know, I can't even go to work and be safe.


Oh no. Yeah. Honestly, I count myself lucky because I actually, before they removed you from the system, I was still getting emails and there was an email that someone had come down with Covid a few days before I left and I wasn't on shift.


Oh man, that is pretty good. Oh, this is another random question. What kind of headphones that rose?


These are hyper X. These are clouds.


Okay. I think I've been um checking those. I just got a PS five and I need some headphones. I don't really know anything about headphones,


These,


I've been


you also come with a headset microphone. I lost the boom part of it normally comes with like a little marshmallow on top, you just plug it in and it's just there.


Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of just people talk about those. I've noticed the logo.


yeah, they're pretty good, I like I'm comfortable, I've had them for quite a while, so the leather is starting to come off.


Yeah, I was um I had like some earbuds like these, I'm not even looking for anything super fancy or anything, I just need some efficient Because I didn't want to get into paying like $200 for a video game headphones


these


only


are


makes them


when I got them, they were 70. I don't know if the prices change because I know they've released like some bluetooth ones, they've released wireless ones, I don't know what the prices anymore, It's been a while,


So


but no.


that's kind


they're good.


of global? Oh


they're good, they're good. I like him comfortable. Uh


good. Do they um


mike is still good quality one.


noise canceling or anything or is just


Not noise could well, not that I noticed, but then I don't notice a lot of, a lot of noise canceling headphones, it's kind of one of those things you don't really notice until uh but they're they're nice and enclosed, so most background noise is pretty much blocked anyways because they sit pretty tightly on your head.


mm Do you like podcast or something? You see the whole setup going


No, no, no, no. Uh, I just enthusiast I guess


well, that's pretty cool. Uh


I,


I was just in from friends doing it


no,


the other day.


I, I occasionally, I've got a couple of friends who stream and occasionally they like, oh, you know, you want to join us. But ah, I don't do it myself. My internet does not support it,


No make


but


sense.


I've still got this thing, still got the webcam. So


I had uh briefly thought about it just because it seems that I see a lot of people doing it, but I just don't know if I would have enough one content or just be interested enough.


no, you'd be surprised. There are a lot of people, I know at least a few people who are hardly talk at all, but it's just the atmosphere. They give up, you know, they're really chill there really comforting, you know, they welcome everybody. They'll say hi to you, You know, they'll answer some questions. But even if you don't talk much, even if you're shy, people will still wash. You'd be surprised.


They live stream or it's like a choose.


live streamer Youtube. I know there's a lot of people, um, you know, you could make tutorials, you could just make gameplay, there's a lot you can do. People people think of it as like, oh man, it is so hard to get it, but you know, it's just one of those things just got to get your foot in the door and keep going.


Oh my dear brother, because I, I do watch people who want Youtube ironically doing stuff and sometimes, I mean if I don't buy a game or something, it's just interesting, you know, watching myself playing it,


Have you have you watched them do? Mhm.


I was that


He's a so he's a guy who started Youtube, remember watching this guy when he had like less than 20,000, he started Youtube with just playing guitar on Omega, you know playing guitar on PS four on Black Ops and now he's playing you know, he's got like I don't know like two million subscribers, He's playing among us with dr lupo, you know just you just go and you do your thing, do what


that's


you enjoy.


really cool. Yeah, I mean it's something I can do inside. That's too many things to try and find glazes.


I've been thinking about it and I'm like well youtube you know you just got to upload doesn't matter how long it takes you'll get there eventually so.


yeah, I got a friend literally the other day, he just started, well he started some weeks ago when he's telling me he just does like music reviews. We're not even more like reaction videos where he just listening to music alive on the video and just reacting to it, but he said, you know, it's going kind of so, so yeah, like 60 subscribers. Then one time somebody is in the comments like, you know, you should check out this Australian band. So, and so He was like, you know whatever, so he checked him out and apparently they had like this huge fallen, he woke up to like 1200 subscribers and then it went from there and I got like people in Australia, you know, blowing them up in his D. M. S trying to get them to do for their band stuff


Yeah no that's


fractions.


the thing it's like you just gotta do it, you don't know, you never know.


Yeah, that's life. Especially now it's just you know, adapting


especially


because it's gonna be a whole


the


lot


whole


of.


my mic is having a stroke and I make my camera let me let me see this just uh this on. Hopefully that fixes it a bit. Yeah there we go now. I am very bright though. It is that better? That's better.


it's pretty cool. It's what I've been doing this for uh maybe about a year now, maybe a little over a year. And I've never done one like this. It's usually um


Yeah it's usually just sit there and you answer questions


it


isn't


just depends,


it?


but this has been a real busy like season. Usually these comes real sporadically.


I think it's because a lot of people are stuck inside, they're like oh if we can get a lot of data


Oh that makes sense. You are on em too by chance.


I'm trying it it's uh it's confusing


What uh what's confusing you Zachary?


just the system in general you know it's it's something I got to learn.


Do you um do you use any scripts or anything?


I've got the Mturk suite for chrome.


Okay, yeah, that's what I had to start off because when I very first started, I had no idea how to understand that. We're right down description, just reading up on Reddit and seeing like you know what other people are doing and


I'm following hits worth taking four and just the overall enter credit. Uh


uh definitely a learning curve to it, but once you, I mean, I still never got to the point people are on their making like, you know, $607 a


yeah,


week or whatever And I mean, you know, I might escape with


but


maybe $100, but that's just sit in the house, I'll check that bridges, depends on how much time to


I have noticed lately that some of the links seem to break, so it's like they're trying to link something directly on the entire, excited not send you elsewhere, it just never seems to load, I'm not sure if that's just on em tricks end or if it's, you know, something that they're doing wrong.


It's probably on inserting because um I kind of stopped it about a year ago, but that's when stuff like I first started, it was just more and more people getting on and


Probably a there's probably a lot of people lately the surface are kind of having a problem.


And uh also the people making the hits everything their new as well, so that was a issue that's popping. I was just people not knowing how to work it as far as like upload and it was having problems and you know, people try to make money down here about whatever problems they have,


yeah, that's what I'm just sticking with prolific for now, you know, it's it's slower, but it's more reliable.


you got a script for this as well?


I didn't even know the word scripts for this thing. I just have uh I just I just check it on my email every so on my phone every so often and up on here and do things.


Yeah, I think it's just one uh a funny name, but this one is just um let's you know, every time there's a new one on chrome, it would just literally say like new studies available. Um Just help me catch a few more, what is the name of it? I


prolific assistant. Yeah.


So yeah, it's just like a simple voice, you know, just say like, you know, new studies available well and I'll help you catch it because sometimes I do be a bit slow and these fill up kind of quick too


Yeah. I literally, an hour


efforts.


before this started, I checked my studies and I had like 12, yeah


wow. I had I think two all day and Well no, I missed one of them, but I think it was 97 total. But I mean that's not bad as well, I mean it's a dollar to do nothing.


76 1 36 60 48. Yeah. These are all really short, but I saw one that was similar to this one was giving 20 bucks For


a two hour


bucks,


study.


was it like all uh


No,


like actual


it


surveyor?


was like it was like something interactive. Like we want you to interact with the system, you know, talk with it. I think it was like some artificially I think they were wanted people to talk to. No idea. It's


hours.


like it appeared as quickly as it disappeared.


Yeah, those always just And even um I missed when I was like $5 this year. I was so sick Because I think I might have been like 30 seconds too slow. It's just sometimes uh where it just will appear, I try to keep it open at all times, but sometimes it just will disappear. Reported system. Even notices, is there? Let me hear. Everybody can make $5 into whatever.


yeah, here's one uh for 25 240 minutes. That's What is that? three hours? four hours.


Yes. Uh 61 20. That's four hours. Yeah, that's the length of it.


Yeah, that's that's that's the length, the


man.


average completion time is 2:40.


I've never done out much before but For $20. I don't know. Well what's the how much did that our. Right.


At 6:49 an hour?


I don't even sound good. People like that. But I mean there's nothing else happening. I've been uh just trying to find different ways income luckily get to work at home but it's only part time so you know, still


I


just


mean,


start flying.


money is still money, especially during these times you get what you can.


Yeah but for you know stuff not turning stuff still expensive, some consistency.


Well, no. Yeah, lately over here they had to enforce rules again. So, you know, 11 thing of water per per person uh They're limiting, you know, paper towel, rolls, everything and it's starting to come down


to the point of like, you know, paper is worth more than gold.


Uh huh. You know you saw how people got about tissue last time so that's definitely gonna happen again if things get well, I mean they're already as bad as it could be so.


You know that you've had a closet right behind this bed here and it's just it's got three things of water, you know, food canned food in case you can't get any. Yeah.


It makes sense. I've been trying to do the same. Uh Just just in case I don't think it will happen to us, but you never want to be in a position because the first time to shut down it was like, you know, what do you do? And I remember going to the story, things going so weird.


Yeah. The first time we were at our old place and we had something start over. But you know, there were those days where it's like all right, so, we've got gold, potatoes, some eggs. Alright. We're having eggs and potatoes for for dinner, it's like Yeah, you do what? You can


Yeah, as long as, I mean it's better doing that than being sick or being, I love seeing some of the stories and it's just pretty bad. And also people working hospitals and I'd much rather just eat potatoes for dinner than being their predicament. There's just a wild year


There we go.


and a lot of people, you know, I think it's just gonna get back to normal sometime soon. It might, but I just need to see if what happens because


Great.


we're just


I


too far


think


in.


the problem is that people just don't learn. They think like, all right, you know, You know, cases are going down, we're starting to get this underhand. Cool. We can go outside now and then cases spike up again. It's like, okay, well, did you learn your lesson? Did you learn anything about what just happened? You know?


Yeah. And even like here people were saying that, but cases when they went down, it was still up in like the 40-50,000, it's like, you know, that's not really down, it's just not as bad as it was. And now we're worse than we ever work and look,


Okay. We got what? 12,000 cases in a day here. Well, I got my phone ringing.


known for uh Oh good, same china, listen, always


Don't


have


You


your


Love? Don't You Love 1 800 Numbers? Yeah.


always make you think some exciting is happening. Mhm


Especially trying to find a job, you're like, oh, thankfully something called, nope.


Oh man, I'm going through that same thing and it's always just, especially with the voting thing, it's usually just them china subscribe to the voting or whatever. It's like, you know, I'm already registered, please leave me alone, I'm already stop texting me and calling


we


me.


did that two weeks ago.


Yeah, we got this um Senate runoff here. So they just went right back to doing the same thing because we got another election coming up and it's like, man, we got to do this all over for a month, please leave me alone.


I think here we do everything all at once. So government, mayor senators, I think uh they set it up so that every year like every year you vote at the same time, but it's always around the same time. So


That's


it's just changes. Yeah, it just changes the size of the pamphlet.


Uh huh. But I mean still I'd much rather do that than constantly have to, especially this time it was cold wait to call to be outstanding lines for anything because these lines here get pretty ridiculous. I think early voting. Uh My cousin went, she's waiting in line like four hours. He was like, you know, I'm


Especially


not doing that.


it's especially dangerous now because you know, sure it's cold but with Covid as well, you're also cluttered together.


Mhm. I try to do the absentee too, but that's just uh animal in its own because last time I even send the things so um me and a bunch of other people and it's just you know, I want to send it off and it's like you know, is he going to ever get there and you got to go find the one ballot box, you can drive it off. It's just a weird process.


Yeah, I think our state is probably one of the better ones when it comes to mailing because a lot of people mail them in here.


Mhm. Yeah. I didn't even know that there were states that majority did mail in ballots. I will use news to me.


Our our state has been I think since a couple of years ago our state has been pretty heavy on the mail in just because of the weather and because of traffic and because of lines are like, you know, just let's just try and you know sure it's it's not as fair on paper, but they've actually swapped over to like a like a denser thinner cardboard so it's not paper, it's more cardboard and they're making it out of like recycle materials because of the whole thing.


Well, that's pretty efficient.


Yeah. And that's also why they swapped over to doing everything like all at the same time, because if you if you can put like seven votes, 17 votes, 12 votes, 11V all on one thing instead of repeatedly making the same paper, it's a lot more efficient.


Yeah, I mean, that's so weird that every state wouldn't, you know, have the same kind of systems in place or just make it easier. But I mean, we all know why it's so weird. We got these Republican governors and stuff out here that literally just be trying to sabotage things on purpose.


I mean uh did you hear about trump's trump? Un conceding?


Yeah, I'm just lost on what even is happening with that because


at this point it's just like I I just feel like he's going senile


Yeah, that might be a very real possibility because


because


he honestly is up there in age


Yeah. Well that and also like, you know, they're they're marching out without masks in the cold. It's like what are you guys


making


doing?


it just making it or, and that's another thing like, you know, that's definitely going to make things work on our behalf because they are, they're doing that and we've seen so many times numbers are going to go up. That's just how it works. There's no way they don't go up. So y'all wasting everyone's time being stupid. And now we are in like the whatever, 100 thousands of cases every day.


It's just getting worse.


Don't even want to know where we can go from here. Because I mean,


Hopefully down.


well, I mean, it just depends. I have no faith in my state. Like I've seen so many wild things because you know, the governor refused to shut down and people just took as a sign that, you know, Well, obviously it's not as bad as people are making it. So let's just go do whatever and people have been doing whatever for like six months now.


Our governor, he's been going hard. We didn't even make it to Phase two before he told us down again. That's that's like Phase one was like, all right, cool. We can open, we can start opening up some restaurants, we can start putting up some malls, you know? But, you know, make sure we limit how many people are there and Blah Blah. We just barely started dipping our toes into interface to and it's like we're shutting down again.


You know, I mean, it starts with that's honestly just what we need at this point. I mean, we we tried to have a little freedom and we all abused it


We


and I was


saw


just


what


like,


happened.


you know,


We saw what happened to California.


so what I'm saying like the proof is there let's just do it. It sucks like no one enjoys being in the house. But if it means like you know


If


everyone


it means


staying safe.


it means living then do what you do. Mhm.


But I mean there's a lot of people that aren't even thinking as far as they just stuck in, you know, I want to have fun right now, I just got to do whatever and it's like you know for like the past couple of months, the majority of the place I've banished to the grocery store, I walk to the grocery store every month. I mean like a week just get some exercise in it. You know, I might go in there and just get a few groceries and even that we kind of scaring me because people on their way to close and etcetera. So I mean I'm like you know if I can't even do the grocery store comfortable no way I'm trying to do anything past this. But it's a lot of people are just giving people in there all the time. No mass and trying to stand shoulder to shoulder and talking to me and coughing all over the place. Please get I went in there one time and I was just doing getting something and somebody came behind me like reached over my shoulder like from behind me and almost flipped completely and I was like, yo first of all please don't get that close to me.

Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Oh yeah.


I remember I went to the store with my uh my mother and there was a guy who refused to wear a mask. Was trying to force his way into the stores like yo I got to get groceries, let me in. This dude eventually snuck his way in and customers dragged him out. That's how, that's how serious people are around here. It's like, you don't, you don't fuck around here.


I appreciate that though because I mean all it takes is one person and I mean you know just other people having that same mindset to where you know I don't have time for this. You know even if it's not about me it's more than just me and let's keep us all safe. You know if it means getting this one it it out of here, you got to do what we gotta do.


Yeah. It's it's really a shame people don't like that mindset doesn't spread too far because I've got a friend who lives over in uh, what is it Idaho? Not Idaho Illinois around there. They're getting some people who just, some places just don't bother with mask. And it's like why? You know, we've, we've seen what happens. We've seen the problems that can occur. You know, we've shut down multiple times already. The numbers, the numbers are there, the data is there, the evidence is there. We have literally we have video proof of the, of the symptoms of people literally dying and being on machines to live. And you still refuse to wear a math.


Yeah and people, you know people just simply are in denial that anything's going on or is a problem or


It's it's a government lie, man. The government just wants us inside, man. It's like, God, please just shut up and and put on the mask.


like it's not like I said this, I don't understand why people think anyone is enjoying being inside, like it's not fun for anyone. I'm


I


not doing this out of


like,


entertainment.


yeah, sure. They're, they're like, sure hermits, sure introverts. But even then you still get bored. All right. You still want to go out. You want to go for a walk, you want to go watch a movie or something? Can't I had plans to go watch a top Gun when that came out. Can't anymore. We're shutting down again. So me and my friends were gonna go watch, we're gonna sit like, you know, we're gonna grab seats like two seats in between each other. Watch the movie, enjoy it. And now it's


love going to the movies, to this one of my favorite things to do, but I'll never do that again apparently,


You know


and


me,


that's you.


me and my dad nearly cried when, when it was delayed the first time because we're huge fans of Tabqa. And when we heard that they were making a sequel, it was like, oh Lord, you know, we were already making plans were ready to go out and buy the tickets and then Blade. So make plans were closing down again. So now we're just thinking like, I guess we're going digital.


Yeah, I might uh I think I just get like uh one of those many projectors or something and that's the close


good


as


protector.


I could get


Put


to.


up on your wall, lay down in beds.


You have a friend with Jack Reed uh just aim it towards the ceiling so you can lay down in Washington. That was pretty cool. I mean it might be an idea but it's just like I said adapting because I mean we're always about to do this for much longer than we want to and


I mean,


it


we're,


might be a man.


we're in testing for the for the cure. But testing does not mean that it's anywhere near being done. This means you're


And


trying


even


to


if


do


it,


it means they're trying to get some of the really bad side effects out, you know? Sure.


anywhere is done, I like how you gonna get it to people officially in a


There's


quick manner.


another problem. You know, there's so many cases we got to get out to do you who do you prioritize, do you prioritize the elderly, the kids, the young ones before immuno compromised. Um, and even then about above that, you know, there's, there's the method of production, you know, How difficult is it to replicate difficult? Is it to, you know, create the serum to get what you need for it? People just


So


don't seem to think. People just don't seem to realize that the logistics of a cure during a pandemic are ridiculous.


especially for something that you like a completely new virus that you know,


That's


we


world wide.


yeah, we had to take a long time just trying to learn what it was and triggering out like what we're dealing with. And that was the main thing that was upset to me about people because you know, they were getting mad at the scientists for you know being wrong and not knowing. It's like, well they don't know. They literally don't know.


Like the thing is that the reason for that was because china was withholding information from us. You know, they didn't tell us


definitely.


where it came from. They didn't tell us how long they've had it. They didn't tell us what they knew. And only when the information actually started getting out by force from people within china trying to spread it. Did they actually tell us which they told us it came from, you know, a bad or we realized it came from a bat? They actually found a mutation of the covid of the, of covid inside of a, what was it like a, like a mouse or something? Or some some some small rodent and they found a version of covid within that that are mutated. So


and


then we


that's


have the


the


problem,


exact thing we didn't need avenue.


then we have the problem of even if we get the cure for our current for our current covid version, it could very well be like the flu and it could mutate and come back eventually.


Um and it's just I don't understand, man, just stay inside. Everyone could just stay inside or go sparingly or you know,


This


I mean at the very worst way man, I don't see how that's a difficult thing to do


let's just people are used to it. You know, when you look at places like china and Japan, they've been wearing masks for decades because of the pollution because of how clustered they are. You know how easy it is to get a sickness when you're so close to a bunch of people, they've been wearing it for years, so they're so used to it over here. We're pretty open. You know, we don't we don't tend to group up get clustered together as often so people just aren't used to it.


and I mean it's just in cringing on freedom, but I mean is it


Yeah. I mean would you rather wear a mask and have your freedom of being able to go outside or get covid and be stuck in a bed for a couple weeks?


I think a lot of people would rather get cold because I mean people even have


Perfect.


caught it, you're saying like you know it's not that bad, I've got it and I just was sick or had a runny nose for a week or two and it's like, you know that's not everybody approach.


No, I I know a couple who got it right. One friend, he just felt he just felt nauseous, felt sick. One friend I went to the hospital and to go home. Machine had a lot of I. V. Fluid going to him. It's it's it's it's different how it affects people. And some people you're wondering are they going to live, are they going to make


it through


my


this?


things like a symptomatic and you know, you don't know what's gonna happen. I don't wanna take any chances. That's scary enough for me.


And you can't you can't know if you're asymptomatic until you get infected.


Yeah, that's too much of it since I heard that I was like that's too much of a risk. Don't even I want to play with that because


thank


I mean it's


you.


bad enough as the virus or the virus you can't see or like know about sounds like a nightmare.


And that you don't know if you have it until you're already you know already sick


It really sounds like a zombie movie. That's what I've been thinking from beginning


you


like


know? Yeah I made the reference to a couple of friends that it's that you know, I was like you know this could very well end up like the games of division where things just you know where things just shut down and people are you know out here begging for food and we've got to have martial law and people were like it's not going to get that bad dude, get crazy.


good, good. Yeah, especially people just keep going on where they are going on. I don't really I don't see a better alternative than that honestly. But I mean hopefully it won't get that far.


I mean hopefully


Hopefully


we don't know getting shit like World War Z. Because if this doesn't it becoming a zombie virus, I'm just I'm jumping I'm doing I am doing it, I'm not dealing with that shit.


definitely agree on that. You have the time a chance.


Uh I started at what time did you got you got on like 10 no 3 10 04


Yeah, somewhere in that area. I uh been


That's quickly.


checking my watch but I never


I say we give another five minutes. Yeah.


yeah, it definitely said uh you want to go over.


Yeah. Just just because there are either our system or their systems. Yeah.


I don't see I don't want to take the chance. I don't do well taking chances, I mean it's kind of fun depending on what it is, but there's just some risk that are a little too risky and when it comes to Japan, I gamble with you know maybe some money or something, just a friendly bet but


See there's there's a difference between taking a risk


yeah.


and then just being uh being God, watch the words on my time. Being reckless.


mm that's the best word for it, just reckless and I mean this whole year is just put in perspective how selfish people are, you know, I'm kind of picking and choosing you know who do even if we do get out of this, who to associate with because you know I've seen the way people will act or lives on the line so I don't want to hang out with you anymore, you know you could have killed me, goes up to youth. Mhm

Mm. Uh Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly.


And


I just


it's


found I got a friend that had a party over summer that hopefully well luckily I don't even recall and missed, but apparently uh he was positive and had like a giant party and a bunch of people got sick and you know, it wouldn't even no remorse about it or nothing. It was just like oh you know, whatever it was like that's kind of stuff. So I'm not I can't either


That's


trust


kind of


you


stuff,


going forward,


it's kind of stuff where it's like, you know, cool. I know you, but do I want to risk it?


I don't


No.


want to risk anything. I don't even


Oh dude, I'm getting married. Hell no. Stay home. You know what here better yet? Call me. That's how just


I get


don't fucking


on his


just


doom


don't


for work all the time. This is


like like if people want to have a party cool, have a zoom party, you know, have a party over Skype over. Discord over over, you know, Messenger, whatever. Just stay home.


we could all play Call of Duty together. I mean it's


You


not


can play


gonna be


cards


the same


against humanity. They've got uh God, what is that? Uh fucking there's there's plenty of games that are free for parties. Uh There's Disney Plus has released a group watch feature. Yeah,


I was uh owning on amazon. I know they got one too,


yeah, for twitch but you need to own it to be able to watch it and it's kind of weird.


you know amazon prime uh the amazon video, you can do a watch party on their for their movies, but it's Yeah, it's just those movies I'd read, I would like to do it on like something else.


Anything.


Not that they don't have


Anything


a Yeah because I was got a friend of Face Time, you watch movies all the time and we would do that. But I mean it's much better to have like the actual group watch things where we all got it. I mean it's just people are adapting to you know, we were getting further along to uh we're I guess it'll be comfortable being in the house but it's still you've got to make the best of the situation because I mean what what can we do?


I'm not really,


Now I get sick. That's that's what it's all the power got just do whatever. I gotta do this. Well really you can't even control that. But I mean,


honestly, I you could you could go get your mail and get sick. That's how that's how bad it is.


Yeah, people like to go to the store and like come back and wash their groceries off and everything just I mean I get it, I find it a bit excessive because I just don't wanna do that myself. But I get it. I definitely wouldn't knock anybody do anything. You know definitely better safe than sorry Geon even I used to when it first started I was going to the store and masks and gloves and all every time I just stopped by like uh clammy hands, hands start sweating gloves.


because of the gloves, your hands can't breathe. So


Oh man it was annoying me so bad. But even when I stopped I was still paranoid like you know what do I touch or do I you know do I trust him touching anything because you know is certain stuff 100 people might come by and touch this whole day and I don't even but you know keep hands advertising, keep the mask on. I might get like a home one of those super filter mass like the uh exterminators


I'd


and stuff


like


have


something a respirator.


nah well like a double respirator, like exterminators.


Yeah, it's like you wear it here and it's got like the two filters on the sides.


Yeah, I mean that's super excessive but I mean definitely


I think.


not going to catch anything.


I think you could get away with getting a painting respirator. I think it's called a particle respirator and just swapping out the filters for something a little bit more dense. The problem is that you're gonna find it's kind of hard to breathe in those.


Yes, why I was wondering on, but I mean it's an option but also I mean I just got to only go to the store still and if I just got to do it for like an hour or so at a time, that would be the worst.


You could just get away with the mask.


Yeah, it was successful.


I think we're safe for time if you want to. All right.


Thank


What


you


do we do


know Shane. Would you have no idea to get at it


your partners


are


are at all in case you actually can improve your check and get back to video chat here. Okay. I guess we've just done right. All right. Take care, man. Stay safe.


cool. You have a good one as well


You too.


later.


please?


No. Hey, there we go. It was rejecting Firefox today. Uh huh. What?


actually accidentally clicked next before I clicked on the link, I was like wait no. Uh huh,


I think have you done this before?


just a couple of times.


Okay. I did it like a few months ago and my first time I messed up filling out the time or something but I wrote and then they fixed it. It was all good.


Yeah. All right. Yeah, I did one back in july I think, and that was my very first one. It was it wasn't entirely sure and I was like I've gotten a little more accustomed to it I guess.


Yeah. Yeah, it's a little different. I I spent my first one wondering if it was like going to be a setup of some sort. I didn't think they explained it. Coralie that they were looking at natural conversations between this.


regular interactions and how people mhm, interact with complete strangers, you know, and how natural it can become too just have conversation flow.


Yeah. I'd be so curious to know if they were doing this back before Covid Yeah. Or something similar. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah, because with the with the past year being all very different, it's definitely likely that our natural perception of each other and and how we interact with each other has likely changed. I mean I'm not opposed to getting to know people, but I'm more of an introverted person myself. So going in just initiating conversation with random strangers, it's not something I typically do. So I know from personal experience that this past year has definitely changed my openness I guess to be like, hey let's let's talk. You know, just some random person because we all need that that interaction eventually.


Yeah. Yeah, that's um mm


Mhm.


I kind of feel bad for the people who haven't kind of broken. Like I was really shy when I was 20. You know, it would be hard to break out of the show if you just are sitting at home and you can't go out and even see people in person and you don't, mm.


Yeah. I mean I can, it's rough every once in a while to not have that interaction. But I mean, you know, I'm not well off by any means, but like there are still realistically there's still some things I'm probably taking for granted like the fact that we can sit here and have this conversation.


No.


You know, there's many people out there that don't have internet access that can do that. Or or any of the other conveniences that allow to connect to people.


Yeah. Yeah I was I can't remember the numbers now. I went to look up my income and where I sit in the U. S. And it's like I'm a little about 25,000 year so it's like but compared to the rest of the world only I'm like a wealthy person and


Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I have less less status now, but my my action i with income, we were when she got her raise, we were hitting the 33 a year bracket which was literally just pushing us into the next tax bracket and like oh great. You know just above enough where you don't qualify for state aid for like medical and just above where you need to pay for it yourself like that was fun. Um And even then I didn't think we were doing great, you know, we were still kind of in essence like paycheck to paycheck, putting some aside here or there no retirement fund, nothing, no savings of really any kind. And yet you look at it and we were we were still well off compared to many other people. And it's it puts things in perspective because when you look at the people that in our country are well off the upper middle class or even the upper class tier of people just like one, what do they do with all that money?

Mhm. Right right before yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah. Excuse me one moment mike you is really interested in the voices but then he likes to play with the webcam wire.


I my ex and I had six cats. I know all about how cats and pets like to just be like


on


wait what's going on? Especially when it comes to cats, they're like do something to get into


you have serious


something different.


wow what did you have? Like a litter of kittens or?


Um When I moved in with my ex while back, she already had three cats that were all of the same litter.


No?


Which in and of itself was interesting because they were three very different personalities and three very different breeds and body types. Yeah. When was your your long haired calico? She was very had white and black and brown and she was very she was the stereotypical like scaredy cat, very timid, very like run and hide when a new person shows up kind of thing. Um The other one was very very light frame. Like to look at her. You think she was under fed malnourished? She was sold any like there were times you could see her ribs but she was eating just as much as the rest of them. And she was the the cranky old lady cat, you know? Black, mostly black with some brown specks here are there. And then the other one was that big orange tabby fat Garfield cat. Uh huh. Like they're all siblings from the same litter and yet all different.

Yeah. Oh mm mm. Yeah mm. Uh huh. Yeah. Uh huh wow mm.


That's funny.


Yeah. And then we ended up picking up uh two kittens from a local shelter. We were just going to go get one for, hey Yeah, separating them from family. That young was kind of like uh and we were looking at one of them in particular, but then my daughter at the time she was still only, maybe I want to see like a year old maybe less. She was still little. And we were in the separate room there with the litter, you know, closed off from the rest of the shelter and and looking at them. And uh


That's right.


like they have like the half wall dividing us from glitter. So they couldn't be there and rest and everything, you're not like in their space, they want to see you, they'll come into you. And so we're standing there and one of the kittens ups up on the half wall and then climbs up over my arm and plops right on my daughter's head. Mike, yep. That's our cat. Like immediately. It's like, well, that's, I mean, that's it right there, like, what are you gonna do? You know? And then our final cat was, we took a road trip across the country and on our way back home, we were pretty active geo crashers. And our goal was if we're going to be traveling through these states, let's try to find one in each state. So we took a stop in

Right. Yeah. Right. Mhm. Right. Sure. Oh wow.


Well


Idaho.


how hard they are Yeah.


Some of them are pretty


No.


easy, but I don't know. And some of the more rural areas, they can be really hard because they can be anywhere. See how we took a stop for a quick bathroom break just on the side of the road. We're just like, you know what? Let's go for a little quick walk, stretch our legs spent a little while and let's go find one while we're while we're at it and on the walk


Question


and the only one that hears it but a tiny faint meal, it's the faintest, like you guys don't hear that. So we walk over,


family.


try to like find it as we get close enough, then they can hear it too. And we find it. And sure enough, it's literally a kitten probably couldn't have been more than a week old clinging to the base of a tree. So, I mean, the cat was maybe like an intro to a from the ground,


Oh freaky and no mama in sight


no mama in sight, nearest town in either direction was at least 10 miles. Um and so far as we recall, there were no, like more rural houses on the way anywhere, you know, I mean, I've lived decent distance from towns before,


so it's possible someone lived nearby, but the things that crossed their mind was towns are far and this one's little, little


first


little, so mama's likely nearby. If she's not, why, like, did she did this kid and get out or did she leave it? You


bad?


know, Because I mean, human or animal nature is the week, the disease, you know, in the wild, they get left behind.


Oh I wonder. Oh so what a feral


So if if she was,


what?


you know, the runt of the litter or had a birth defect or anything like that, that the mother sensed like she'd abandoned that, I mean, that's animals. Um, so we waited all but got the kitten to us, go to our nearest walmart, got it, its own little dishes, got it. I mean, it's a cat, but we got on a leash, we got it, you know, food, a little litter box. Not so easy when you're still five days travel from home to have a cap in the van, try to be like, how are how are you going to keep the litter box from being an issue in a confined space? Right? We still managed it. And surprisingly enough, the cat took to walking on a leash first. I've ever seen that most cats you put a leash on them and they just kind of like no just flop over and let you drag them.

Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh nice.


Yeah I've got all my you know what I did have one kitten I got to raise and I should have tried the least thing but I didn't think of it I tried it on some adult cats I wouldn't have it.


Yeah, I think, I think what helped for that one was that it was still so young, you know that most people don't think about it until the cats old and like older and they're already accustomed to being a typical cat, no leash just free to roam.


What about


So


the


by


car?


the time you try they're just like I'm not having it


Does that count like well they go in the car and be okay now if you go


typically. Um


so with the heat?


and and there's a part of us that after we brought her home, there's a part of us that wondered um how long she'd actually been out on her own because when we got her home again, she was still a kitten, mind you like really young, we found her, but um she had the strongest urge and habit of trash can. So our media thought was if she had been out there long enough she was surrounding for food and typically


It


in


is


trash cans because stray animals do that. Um don't know how easy that would have been at her age being when we when we brought her to the vet, they estimated that she was probably around, I mean it took a couple weeks to get her in, but she was probably around two months old when we brought her in and wait for her. Yeah, for like a follow up for based on weight and everything. Um but then a month later after uh regular nutrition and everything, they think that she was actually older


No


than she looked because of possible malnutrition from being out in the wild and everything for who knows how long like no regular food supply. So she's going to be


Oh you're


healthy,


not gonna get


less full,


me?


you know, filled out than the average cat. So.


Yeah a couple of mama's my neighborhood that are just scrawny and they were kittens at first themselves until I one day I realized they were mamas.


Right. Yeah. Well like I said, that one cat that we have, like, she's bye now


What?