I think I remember local tennis teams having to shovel the courts off. Um Yeah, my back to pickleball, my daughter played pickle ball in high school in gym class and she thought it was just something her her like gym teacher made up. She never, and then when I started playing, you know, I said to my daughter, I said you know, do you want to play? And she's like, no, I thought it was just a made up thing that my gym teacher came up with, but it's really becoming like, like retirement villages, you know, a lot. It can be pretty hard on your knees, you really got to, you can really get hurt if if you're a real aggressive player. I like to keep it pretty low key. I'm just out for exercise. Not out to be any kind

Yeah. Mhm, wow. Mhm. Mhm Oh Oh. Oh. Mhm.


But


of a champion or there's all kind of tournaments and stuff you can go to, but you have to be ranked


you bet.


and I'm not, I'm too old for that. I don't need to be ranked and be in competition. I just want to get exercise and, and have fun. So yeah.


we have to think about paddle tennis out here, which is kind of a variation of tennis I never heard of and tell them about here. It's like a smaller corn and stuff, Yeah.


I wonder if they use a pickle ball, they called paddle tennis. I think I have, I saw something on that. I wonder if they use the pickleball courts for that. I have to look that up. I'm just curious. Yeah, but a


Right,


lot of people here are starting to get into it and um, you know, making


Thanks.


leagues and really getting people interested in it and stuff. So, so, well I think we have our time and I enjoyed talking to you and


You too? That's funny. The same thing happened to the last time I realized we ask each other or in our names.


my name is linda


Uh huh. I'm chris


chris. Um Have you done any of these before?


This is my 3rd, my 3rd 1.


Okay this is my 6th 1. They originally said you could only do four and then they changed it to


I think it's six now. Okay.


and my last two didn't show up so this was my so thank you for showing up so.


Fire on three for 3. It is. Uh


my other ones um My first four I don't think I had any issues and then this the 6th 12 people you know didn't show up. So you know I I usually they say you have to give them five minutes. I think the one time I waited 20 minutes just because I was reading or something wise I'll just stay on him wait. So yeah it's pretty it's pretty good you know pretty good money for just sitting talking to somebody and yeah I enjoy doing it. Yeah so well you have a nice


but


day.


thank you. You, too. It's nice to


You


meet and


too


talk


chris


to you linda.


say bye bye.


Yeah. Hello Hello Hello Hello? Oh hello? Oh or do you do? Oh needed to run? Oh don't do it honorably.


that way.


I didn't, I have not been no shadow see Hello? Yeah,


Hello?


can you hear me?


I can hear you. Can you hear me now?


Kanye you


Hey?


how you doing?


Hi. Uh Pretty good. Pretty good. Feeling better now that the election is over?


You look good


Thanks


And is


hopped


there


out of the tub.


you look and you look awesome. You look good. Just okay.


A Where about do you live?


I'm in the States. I live in the States.


Yeah. Is it cold violence? Is it cold?


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is it?


I live in Arizona so


And


it's still pretty warm.


uh it's called over here? Yeah. So how how have you been in this election period? Have you been? Mhm.


Uh Really stressed out. Um But


Great.


you know


Yeah you can yeah


feeling feeling better now that we hopefully at least won't have trump again.


there is just


Um Not super super excited about biden but way more excited than about trump because


thank


that was


you


a problem in my opinion.


or trump was a problem.


Yeah.


So you're not also excited about biting? Yeah. Yeah.


I would I mean I would have preferred Bernie Sanders. Um But we can't have nice things


So who did you vote for?


right? I voted for biden but before that


And I think


I voted for Bernie Sanders like before


whoa


like for the um the primaries or whatever, like I would have preferred that it was Bernie Sanders versus trump and then we had Bernie Sanders but that wasn't an option.


mm that's good. So


how


I


about you?


also I also have a binding you know problem has always been beat them. Trump has always


World


been a problem to us and I'm like right he works, he lacks


not


he lacks the quality of leadership. Yeah.


for sure.


Yeah. Very very selfish leader. Uh huh. Very stop,


yeah, definitely. He says


very


a lot of


angled


days,


Angelina,


does that mean?


both and lots more that can't even mention what?


Yeah, things that you don't say in polite conversation about? Yeah.


Well at the end of the day I see you, I'm so happy that beating one hurry I'm after. Yeah. Yeah.


It's definitely better. I'm a little nervous that trump's not gonna get the heck out that he's going to try to cheat his way into staying, but I think it will be okay.


Yeah. Yeah. And I can't wait. I can't with trump's you get out of the white house. Didn't she occupied our space? Uh huh.


sure, sure,


So have you have you been since the election started off since after the election or how was your mood since then? You had or you saw the by the one? Oh.


definitely. Uh


Uh huh.


happy and relieved, but also kind of like


What?


I saw something on the internet that was like Why do I feel like how when you're watching a scary movie and they defeat the monster, but there's still like 20 minutes left so you feel like they're gonna come back, like um like I'm still a little bit on edge, I feel more relieved once he's actually out of there.


Yeah. What? It's cool, It's cool.


huh


So are you policing were married


If you do this, I'm engaged.


when they get it?


How about yourself? I'm engaged crap about you.


So yeah, engaged, which means you're single. You're not you're not yet my wood.


That not yet.


I use reach me in a serious relationship and I hope you invite me for your, for your for your for your wedding. How do you,


Yeah. Once I ever figure out when that's going to happen, I got engaged like forever ago. But then I started grad school, so I've been too busy to even think about getting married.


so you leave it at home with your family?


No,


Been a fish?


I live with my partner, but we just haven't picked out a date or anything.


You live with your partner. So are you, do you do you guys have kid?


Yeah. No, we have dogs. Uh huh.


guys school? Uh


Yeah.


at any time when you wish your personal touches you? Right. What's that? How do you feel?


Then it sounds like,


you don't


it


talk about?


sounds like you live with a lot of people. It sounds like you live with some other people.


Hello? I can't hear you.


Mhm. Can you hear me?


Yeah. Kanye. In addition,


It sounds like you live with some other people or the TVs on.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I live with my family here. I live with my family but uh I've kid but I'm not mom single but I just, I just came out of a marriage so I'm still have one kid. So yeah, I'm actually whether I have a kid.


Well, yeah. Boy or girl.


It boy,


How old is


it's


he?


just six,


Six?


yep. So how do you,


Hey? 28.


you're all grown up now? She have wanted that.


I'm still doing school.


Which which level are you? Well she knows how she's,


I'm almost done with my PhD. Yeah. Thank you.


mm I'm happy for


Thanks.


you. I'm about I don't finish when once was about applying from activity but have not yet started due to only due to family responsibilities and all sorts of that. I've been very busy with work hands on sort of uh


Yeah. What's what do you want to do your PhD


my


in?


peers do. Yeah.


Yeah. What do you want to to do? Like what kind of program?


health care health care. So


Cool. Like public health, like public health or like bio staff or?


well I've not I've not decided on which one to precise so whenever I'm ready are we just go and see which one I can understand. So which where did you wish? Program the definition your master and play to your masters and which one are you doing your place dinner? Okay


it's it's in the same program um and I'm doing clinical psychology.


mm Clinical psychology. So I'm talking to psychologist here. Yeah.


until I have my degree and my license. I'm uh trainee or doctoral student or something.


Show john sorry as well. So how have we been in this pandemic then?


to get a little bit


how have the pandemic treated you?


uh decent. I haven't had anyone that I know get really sick or have a lot of um you know like financial difficulties from it. So I'm blessed in that way. Um It's mostly just stressful to like be at home all the time for so long. Like I missed, I miss people


What?


and like doing activities, but that's pretty minor.


Okay we can. Yeah


How about you?


I don't know where to start from. Well I lost my job doing this fandom and that's what made me to be on politic like you can see just to make a living just to some hope take care of my kid to feed as well. Well the little money I make I just use it to take

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, yep. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Yeah.


And


care of


you


my


don't,


kids the most because I can't see my keep going hungry. You understand it's also important I love my kids and I can't do anything for him even though around move


Have you


what?


had,


Even though even


sorry?


though I don't have much I'll make sure I struggle or I strive hard for my kid to be very successful


You know,


so she's.


Yeah, exactly. Have you had any left with the like unemployment stuff that they were supposed to have for people that lost their jobs because of covid or has that not worked?


there was a time that Donald Trump then he gave like 1000 plus doors


You can probably,


and that was the only one I have then and since then I haven't have album secured anyone. I don't know if there's anywhere you can introduce me to. The only ones, anyone you know that I can apply. Yeah. Mhm.


I don't know, prolific is definitely the best one that I found online as far as


Who


like


is it?


paying actual money for things. Um But I think it kind of depends on where you live, like can you reach out to your alumni program from your masters at all maybe


Oh no probably I will see our city to eat. I'll see to it. So what


and I know it's not,


what


it's obviously not the best pay, but I know a lot of places higher seasonal workers


it


for like the holidays coming up um


sure. You fool.


like amazon and target in places like that because lots of pick,


Who?


they get lots of business over the holidays. Um


you do me a few more? I don't know after this after this that I love


good


too.


to meet


If


you.


you can talk more, maybe you give me your money where I can mail you. So you give information about one or two things. Mm So


Okay.


what what's your mail?


AJSB


Let


me, let me take, you can dance but I'll write it down. Oh, yep,


that's what ready?


Yeah I'm ready. Yes.


JSB 247


J. S.


people.


P.


Mhm B As in boy?


I'm gonna GSP yeah. Huh? A 247.


uh,


He's


yep. At N au dot E D U.


mother appreciation. I do. GSP hello? DSP 247


at N au dot E D U.


at N. A. U. What's not what?


mhm uh dot E D U. Like education?


Open it dot edu E. D. S. P. 247 at N. Au dot E. D. U. Okay. Thank you very much. So what's the name?


Jasmine.


Jasmine?


How about you,


Mm I'm William. No.


William? Nice to meet you. I can only see the top of your head.


It's my pleasure. It's my meeting


Thanks


is my pleasure meeting you.


to meet you as well.


it was. What's your partner's name? Yeah.


Ryan,


Bye. We love dunning by love learning optimization very soon. Mhm.


What's your son's name?


My son's name is Michael.


Michael. That's a good one. Mhm.


And I can't, I


Is he in


can't with you.


kindergarten? Is he in Kindergarten or 1st grade?


Okay. Is in India in the carton? What? Yeah.


Has he had to do it all on the computer


You know what it is? What is behind?


like or can we go to the place?


Hello? Can you?


Mm hmm. Can you hear me now?


What do you see?


I was asking if he's had to do it all on the computer or if he's been able to go to school with the pandemic?


computer. Computer. Yeah.


Perfect. Yeah, that's


Like


hard.


I said earlier, I can't wait for the invitation between you and brian. Okay. So what we need to send me send me an invite to men.


Mhm Okay. Yeah, once I figure it out, man.


So like how many years now? Duty and you'll figure everything out that you people will stay us as my couples. Like how many is looking up to you? You see it that way.


Um so we've been together for seven years,


What does that is a lot of years.


and we've been engaged for like four years, I think.


wow. That's that's also


How what?


they do forget about that. I can see the love, you know, eyes. You love him so much. You like him so much.


yeah, he's a good guy. He likes to have his messy office though.


Is that his stuffing? I can see all those packages


No.


that you're behind you. Mhm.


Yeah, it's like different like tool things and he's got some like uh like drone airplane things and whatever that he plays with.


what what does he do? Mhm


he's an aerospace engineer so it kind of fits.


Okay guys. Good. Happy for you boots. Mhm Happy


Thanks.


for you. But I my regards to you. Well,


he's out at work building. Something replies. I don't know


so it was your, what was your time over there?


Actually It is 1021


You


am


can have 10 21 Air. Right.


Mhm.


Same. That same here.


Yeah. Okay there on the West coast somewhere?


Yeah, exactly. Something like that. So if I may ask, mm hmm,


sure.


wow,


Yeah. Yeah,


I forgot. To him with our jacks.


happens.


You look, you look, you know your beaches making me to forget what a hunter axe.


So nice. Have you done one of these like these conversations things before?


No, this is my first formal accusation I'm doing. It's my first,


Yeah, it's pretty nice because they, you know, you get like what, like $15 or something and it's usually yeah, pretty fun to just talk to people for a little bit. It's better than the other questionnaire things.


Yeah. It's better than other question. Yeah, it's and even this question. Yes, they don't pay much like you understand this stress and other things. This one you just talk for a little bit and you pay like $15. It's okay. It's


The families. Yeah.


So yeah, I, I don't understand me. You don't, they don't like those questions. Years of this. Uh


Uh there, you know, there's just a lot of really repetitive questions or like boring questions and talking to people is more fun.


Yeah, yeah, she was stuck in talking is more fun. I wish it would be like this. It will be very, very good than


What's


others.


going on here,


So boring question else. Christians. Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah, it looks like you can do for this study. I think you can do seven of these. Um if you sign up for them. South speaking.


77 of this is


What,


a lot of is a lot of dollars. $15 into 7 7 times, Wow is a cool morning.


Yeah.


There could I can use it for one or two important things. So what work do you do right now? So.


Um when I'm done with this, I'm going to start working on my dissertation project some more because of the pandemic,


Well


I had to make it so that people can do my study online. Kind of how prolific is um


woman.


because I can't see people in person, so I have to figure out how to code it all to have people do tax and collect my data.


So you also I touch them. He also is politic as your research research method for your group.


Um I'm gonna I'm gonna use a different one that so that I don't have to pay my participants. I'm going to just use undergraduates um


like volunteers that are in um psychology classes will take my


Bye.


study for course credit. Um


This is


But yeah, that was how I found prolific, was looking for a way to run online studies, but


So since when did he start by taking in politic?


mm, I think probably right around when the pandemic started because that was when I needed to find a way to do online studies and then I realized I could make money on prolific. Okay, so I'm on the computer like most of the time anyways, doing my work at home, so I can just like take studies whenever they pop up.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Exactly


that most most people join all these online besides


Working.


doing pandemic because of lack of job and something like this. In fact a lot of people came across politic during this pandemic period. Yes. Yeah. They have a lot of participant and they also have a lot of with such


What are you


as


doing


community


here?


you understand. So the go go's honey hand. They work together without without such as the only political and without the participants. Like we're taking it to the only political as well.


yep, exactly, it works out


And


well,


I think I think the initiative of bringing prolific. I recommend the I recommend the management because they really have a lot of so. Mhm. Doing this pandemic to decide. A lot of people join us. They are living in life because of this policy. So let me say prolific saved me more than the U. S. Government. Mhm. Yeah.


unfortunately.


Yeah politic what was a prolific our politic


Thank


employment


you. Yeah.


doing this. But thanks to politic I'm able to get feeding and feeding money from it. So kudos to politic kudos to politic what

Mhm, yep. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, awesome.


Well, I definitely


should


recommend


be?


that you sign up for more because I think they're the highest paying ones. Um and yeah,


Uh huh.


I'll watch out for your email and uh maybe talk to you more later. Yeah,


Okay no problem. Yeah. Yes.


good luck, have a good day.


Okay thank you very much take good care of yourself and um brian you


You get,


should take care of ourselves.


bye.


if, Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Mhm. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah hurt. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Good.


Hello. You hear me?


You hear me?


Yeah just fine. I guess we're supposed to just talk


Yes I guess it's just a random conversation.


or


So


where are you?


how are you doing?


Good, how are you doing?


Oh not too bad. Do you? Uh


where are you? What part of?


Oh I love the pennsylvania Tucson. I had an aunt that lived there long long time ago.


It's a good place.


Yeah. She used to uh do like a lot of rock climbing and stuff around there.


Oh yeah there's there's some places not far at all.


I think she eventually got tired of the heat though. I think that was like the main the main bad side of it for her.


we're moving into that season now


Yeah. But I was living I lived in pennsylvania most of my life. But I lived in um last year I lived in south Carolina for a little over a year and I got a little east of what it's like to uh to be in like a hotter territory over the summer, it was pretty intense.


now it's better here than I've lived in the midwest and the Northeast and at least that whole dry heat thing does make a difference but it's still hot.


Yeah. You don't have nearly as much of a humidity issue there. Yeah, I was in um it's probably like 15 years ago, I was in California during a summer and it was much more tolerable than like really bad summers on the on the East Coast. Just because like it could be really hot, but you weren't just drenched all the time. Uh


went back east last summer to visit family in new york at a family beach house and I felt like I was wet all the time. Yeah.


Mhm. Yeah, I missed uh missed seasons, that was the main thing I missed when I was in, I'm not sure what it's like in uh in Arizona in in um south Carolina, it felt like It was kind of like 75% of the year was summer, and then 25% of the year was like mild summer, didn't feel like there was any other seasons.


but if you get used I feel like they're actually our seasons are just not eastern season. Yeah there's there is a winter when it's kind of chilly and rainy although not nothing like out east and there's spring where things are blooming and it's just really nice out. And then you get into the really hot summer when you get a hot rainy part of the summer which is more humid. Then in fall it goes back to hot and dry.


I was


No.


I remembered um one of the things about being in uh in California during it was probably like Somewhere around October or so and there was this like it came on the news that like a big cold front was coming in and the cold front was where it dropped down to like 70° or something like that. I was like what?


well what we do freeze in winter sometimes only at night you know view but and one time it snowed during the day. That was what was unusual.


Is it is it a thing where if you get like a Like a 10th of an inch of snow on the ground, everything just shuts down for a full day.


Oh yeah I think there was on the night time at least if it's still there in the morning you know a lot of time they'll fall at night and then be gone. They do remember watching the news listening to the news one day. You know they were explaining what black guys was. Yeah we see show because it wasn't something anyone we've been here all their lives would be familiar with. It's kind of funny.


Yeah. I um Forget what I think it was maybe around like 1993 or 94. We had like crazy winter where uh it snowed. Like I I don't remember how much snow it was but it was feet like it was where there were snow drifts that were like over six ft tall. And uh Uh one day I went out to play, I was probably like on a 13 or 14 at the time and I went out to play and it was like there was probably too two or 3 ft of snow on the ground and the top like probably six or nine inches was just solid ice. And and it was like a complete was like an alien planet. And um I went out with my cousin and we were like playing on this big hill where we were trying to climb it, but it was like literally trying to climb a sheet of ice that we had the like pound little holes in it to like pull


Like.


ourselves up. And then if we like lost our grip and slide all the way down to the bottom. And and then it was like crazy to think about like how how uh much snow that was and then when and then you think about living in a place like California Arizona and how you know, just getting like a little flurry of snow. Is this like, oh my goodness, look at snow. Mhm.


like snow I did think especially as a kid getting out and it was great. Yeah the kids


It.


out will get surprised that it's cold that snow is so cold, T. V. You know it's usually like in holiday sort of things and it looks warm and cozy.


Right. Yeah, it's like fireplaces and hot chocolate and everything. Yeah. So is this uh do you do a lot of um like prolific style work from home or is this more of like a side thing or do you do this as a as a main form of income?


I


just started doing I've just started doing user testing in general not to to long ago and I just found prolific. I know probably only about two weeks ago


and


don't


there's


see


been


you. Yeah. Lucky.


and I'm a freelancer so I'm working at home already so I just kind of leave a window open and do it. Well how about you have you been doing this for a while or?


Um Yeah, it's been, I don't say it's probably close to two years now. I I uh sort of transition from working a normal job while I was still working


Still working


at my


outside?


last job, I started researching these kinds of sites and realized that you can actually make about as much doing this kind of work on average as I was making at my job. And um and then you've got all the freedom of, you know, saving time not having the drive to and from work or dealing with the boss or any of that stuff. So researching different sites and then um sort of uh started doing them a little bit like on the side while I was working until I got comfortable enough with it and then put in my notice and then like transitioned over to doing it full time. So I jumped, I jumped between probably like, well I probably have


Whatever.


like a dozen different sites that I use, but it's only maybe like half a dozen of them that I use like


What,


a lot and prolific is one that's sort of like uh like you said, I just kind of like keep it open in the background and look for pop up when they pop up, I'll grab them and and I just do that with like several different sites so that there's usually if there's nothing going on in other sites and I can jump over to another one and usually find enough stuff to keep myself busy.


yeah I've been working on doing that with him. A freelance writer so you know I'll work on something then switch over if something pops up and then switch back. What other sites are you using? I'm using a couple of others too.


Um the one that I started off using like that I was only using when I first started was amazon's mechanical turk


Okay. And I just signed up for them. I haven't


I


started


think the


using


monastery.


them yet.


Yeah, that's that's one that's like, it can be really hit or miss. Like if you can find good stuff on there, you can make like some really good um money. Uh there's like some really sort of not very good stuff. The biggest trick about it is learning which which requesters like come


Well


on pretty regularly that are like really trustworthy and pay good versus the ones that are on regularly that don't pay very well. And


don't


um and there's a like whenever you submit work then a requester can accept it or reject it. And I don't know how much research you did on mturk before you signed up for it, but they kind of um a lot of requesters will require you to have like a certain level of your jobs accepted uh


and europe.


you qualify for their jobs, so if you end up having a bunch of rejections it can mess up your average. And so I essentially spent the first like month


What


or two just getting stuff that seemed like really safe and that you can do a lot of to build up numbers to


that


the point


my friend


and you could be a little more cavalier


problem?


about what you're doing because you've got enough jobs accepted that if you get a few injections it's not going to mess up your average. So that's like the biggest hurdle of getting into Mturk is just getting your numbers build up and getting to know like what the good requesters are and what the bad requesters are.


That sounds a lot like I did content writing for a web company for a web content company for a while and the same thing like your acceptance rate. What? All right.


it doesn't pay very well but you can do them like you know they'll pay like one


What?


cent per job but they only take a couple of seconds to do. And if you just grind through like hundreds or thousands of those it's a really good way to get your numbers up. As long as it's like a requester that you know isn't uh doesn't going to reject a bunch of your work. And uh there's uh there's a site called uh turk out the con that you can go to that where people like rape the requesters about like where they


Well.


are, stuff like that so you can avoid the crap ear ones. So it's it's good. I've made I've made decent money on there and uh I can tell you just like right off the top of my head that if you ever um happened to see um a requester called alexandria. There one of the best ones on there, they pay really fair. I've never had a rejection from them. I've done thousands of jobs for them. And uh there are ones where you can um It fluctuates depending on what kind of work it is. But a lot of times you can make like $2025 an hour. We're doing their stuff whenever it's up but it doesn't always last a long time because they are so good so people kind of dive on them.


Well that's true. Pretty much actually prolific. A little longer than when some of them there's one to try my which I like because they pre screen like prolific. If you get a link at all you're qualified. But


I've


those


heard


were


him that it was called


And of course


Try My


thank


UI.


you. Uh huh. I've only


I


done


think


a few of them. So Power.


please. I think


I mean


I had unwritten


you're in like


down.


noon it


Yeah. I'm sorry say that again.


try my U. I. T. R. Y. And why you a there's one word.


Yeah. Yeah. I have a list of ones that I still haven't looked up yet and I'm pretty sure that was one of them because that sounds really familiar. So you've used them and they're actually decent.


Yeah. Actually I haven't gotten a ton of work but I like knowing that when a link comes up at all I'm going to qualify. Well like prolific. Does they look at the democrats ahead of time and then user testing dot com. There's one that I've been using a lot of.


I do use your custom. I think user testing has become one of my, it's probably like my second best site right now because I get Uh you know you have to go through a lot of screeners on there that but the screeners are really fast so it's not just doesn't really feel like that big of a waste of time. But when you when you grab one it's like you know $10 for a 10 or 15 minute thing


well


is really good. And


what kind of for me? You know


Yeah. Yeah, I really like doing those and then occasionally when you get lucky and you get the ones where it's actually like a like a face to face with somebody Where they'll pay like $30 for a half an hour or $60 for an hour. Those are, those are really good. I found uh actually got two of those um in April. So that was like uh you know I mean two hours for $120. It's kind of hard to beat that.


now that last week and since then it's like I'm grabbing those first you know those years for those first.


Yeah. Those are so good. Only


those were hard.


uh to there's uh two sites that can have really really good


wow.


jobs but it can be pretty hard to like it's it's very sporadic. Um Have you tried going on to respondent?


Right. I've heard of them. I have not there on my list of check them out but I haven't yet.


They have gotten, I don't get a ton of work from them because you're only allowed to apply to three things per day. Uh huh. And it's one of those things where you kind of like go in and you look through the list and you find something that you think might be fitting for you and then you do a screener for it and then if they want to use you will contact you. And it's a definitely like varied but I'd say it's kind of in line with user testing where you can make about, you know like I I had one that was like a one hour um phone interview and I think I got like $100 or 120 for that one.


Well that's


Actually There was one that um that was like multi tiered where I had to basically like take my phone and go around and um record a few things in my house explaining like my um like a room set up and then I had to like go to a store and like sort of take some pictures in the store and record my experience of like what happened in the store and everything. And overall the thing took maybe like three or four hours over the course of a week. But I ended up getting like $400 for it.


All


So it's like you might not get something for a month or two at a time, but if you do get something it can be really, really


it's


good.


worth waiting in the queue. Yeah.


And


That burns


people.


test birds. I actually like they're very sporadic but there are very together and organized about it.


That's that's the one. Like I love the ones that have good uh good interfaces and are organized and you can actually like attack them if there's an issue. And


we are


there's a lot of really sketchy ones


and


that.


it does shade into some stuff that's like, yeah, I actually tried survey junkie for a week and that was, you can spend years trying to like earn anything there and they're they're annoying. Studies to I mean the prolific ones I enjoy.


Yeah. I think I think it was survey junkie that I did. One that was, it must have taken like, I don't know, 20, minutes to do. And then like at the end of it it suddenly like said, Oh


What?


you don't qualify for the survey and like that kind of stuff


After


is.


three cents.


Yeah so uh and then I'm always seeing stuff about swag bucks and I tried that and that was terrible. That's just that was like I guess if you have a spare computer that you can just have dedicated off to the side to make a couple bucks a day doing that, that's fine. But it seemed like really not worth it to me. Um.


yeah. Yeah. I've got an actually vibe from them too


Yeah. It's basically like paying you to


that


like see ads essentially like just to have like ads on your computer I guess. I don't know, it's it's just a it's just a mess and doesn't doesn't pay much and it's like a glitchy site and yeah, I just didn't like it. But um uh Another one that I really like that's kind of sporadic, but when you do get something it tends to be good is called Nevo,


Okay. That one I haven't heard of it all. Oh


it's a it's N E. V. O. And it deals with like ai stuff, so it's a little bit like mturk in that you do a whole bunch of small jobs that are just worth like a few cents apiece. But it's a lot more like focused in on a i stuff and there's like a lot less requesters and it's more, it's not where you go into their site and there's a big list of stuff that you look through its where after you fill out your profile, If there is something available that fits you, they'll message you and say, Hey, you want to try this out and then you take like basically a screen or test to, you read the instructions and see if it's something you're interested in. And then they'll usually have like a test where you have to do like 10 of the jobs just to show that you understand the instructions. And then after that point, then it's essentially like it becomes open to you and you can just do it as long as the job exists until they run out. And then at some point after the job runs out, then they'll, they'll pay you for the work you did for it and they're pretty fun. Like it's a really sleek interface that works really well. And just last month I made Almost $200 with them. So that's just a thing.

yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Oh. Mhm. Oh. Mhm. Yeah. Oh yeah.


Without


That's one ones on the side, like I don't use it all the time. But when I get a message that's like, Hey, we've got stuff available, then usually I'll drop everything else and go to that for a while because it's really good.


that's how I feel with test birds, it's like I won't sit around waiting because there's not that much. one thing does come up. I've had surprisingly good luck with one called in tele zoom.


Oh I've heard of that one too.


payout for sort of lois but they're quick. I mean none of them take more than five or 10 minutes. It's like five. It's usually it's like two day dollars usually five or eight. Right?


that's cool. So the other one you said, did you say test birds?


Uh Huh. It's a German one


Okay. I've never heard


and


of that.


I've only done like A few. I mean it's like one a month or or less but they were the first one I did when I was trying to just learn more about this without doing tests and Oh yeah.


There's a there's like a really really simple one that's not really worth much money, but it's a great thing just for, it's one, it's the kind that I have where I check it every day and I usually like do a couple little things for it every day. And then um you get um amazon gift cards from them and


My hands.


I usually get maybe like 20 to $25 a month amazon gift cards from them uh called


correct.


crowd cap


Okay. I think I've heard proud pack pc.


tapped


What is it?


yet. T ap crowd tap.


I think I've heard them mention too.


They're they're really good because um like I said, there's, there's not a whole lot available with them, but usually there's a few things you can do each day. And it's uh, it's like a point system where every 1000 points that you get, you can redeem for a $5 amazon card, So get on every day and look, and it will usually take me five or 10 minutes to go through and do whatever is available at the time. Then I might come back and check like two or three times during the day. And it's all, there's no like screening stuff or anything like that. It's just literally like, it'll pop up all the little things that are available to you and how many points they're worth and you go through and you do them all until you clear them all out, and then, and


so


then just


full.


launched with something else. And so that hardly takes any time. And it's just kind of like a little bit of a little bit of bonus money each month. So I like


Always


that.


upset on my list if I know that there's not a screener because then I know if I do it, I've done it.


Yeah. Yeah it's a it's a really simple format if they just have like little um little squares on your screen for each thing and you can also do on your phone and then up in the corner it has your point total. And then as you peach one it just adds to your point total. And then whenever you reached 1000 you just hit redeem and go in and do it. They I think they do more than just amazon amazon, just what I always do because um because that's the thing I would would get the most used out of but I think they've got gift cards for a bunch of different places. But


But


yeah that one's a


what? Yeah.


Just hey I got this extra $20 this month. That was, that was easy


I did one for you test for the first time, I've been doing Screeners them for a while and it was


and


a test on a delivery app well and funds was like they had to place an order and they refunded you for like convenience for type stuff for the order


that's


and you know a little bit more.


yeah, you test.


Well I have done an awful lot of screeners for them that have gone nowhere but none of them are long, they're pretty short.


Yeah. This is uh like uh interesting um world of, because there's so many sites and there's so many, like I've done so much, like when I was first getting into it, I did so much research and there's so many different lists of, like these are the best places and this place can be trusted in this place can't. This place used to be good, but it's not good anymore


Far.


and on and on and on and, and so it's been kind of fun sort of whittling


Yeah I followed


it


up on right at a few times.


actually work. Yeah.


But it has a bunch of lists down in there, that's where I keep my searches, keep leading me a lot of the time.


And that's pretty convenient. That happened to get a like face to face conversation uh prolific test that leads to being able to have a conversation about other


No


site. Haven't tried yet.


I think that it goes faster and it you know it's actually useful at all about


I know


well the girl.


like, like this conversation could actually become like profitable in the long run. Really


there's a you know I'm definitely yeah I'm definitely gonna check me bo abundant up on my list.


But you said that you're uh you're a freelance writer, like what you are there? Like, is that something that you've gotten into um that you have like certain sites that you do it on or is it something that you do? Like in a different realm from these kinds of sites?


Mostly in a different realm of, I did dip into content writing because they were non verbal leo in places like that. The work was interesting with the amount of time prepare. I mean, I just couldn't write fast enough to make that that kind of profitable, but I actually write young adult fiction and child these


But


books and things


that's


like that and I've also done some articles and some yeah, a little bit of everything, you know, it's a very up and down sort of field, so thinking about like what else can I be doing at the same time,


Right. Yeah. I've always wanted to like, I've always liked writing and I wanted to get into more like making money off of writing, but I've never quite figured out like what, what way to go or where to where to try and like I tried doing some stuff on, it was like caught up work where you can apply to do different jobs and it's like a pretty intensive application process, like people can post jobs and then you have to actually like uh maybe like submit samples of writing or or right, a big like you know things sort of like selling yourself kind of stuff and


my heart.


and I tried doing a few things on there and it ended up feeling like I


What


was


about?


spending like way too much time just like applying for things that I never heard back from and


That's the thing about those. Yeah, I mean it's interesting but you have to like the fiction and articles, you know, I've done the whole, you know, Pitch one Agent and you know, celebrates kind of a whole different process but it's also a lot less predictable long term. So it's not like yeah like you find your place and then you're there Oh so it's sort of yeah it's sort of like a I think of that as my main thing but it's not always the main money making thing, although sometimes


It's


it is some


like,


work husband,


it's like the thing that you you want to do the most, but always the thing that pays the bills.


yeah, something else it has. But other years, you know fiction is you know, not a yeah it is a very up and down downfield shark. Okay, it's


Have


confirmed.


you,


I love it.


do you like the uh like the young adult fiction and stuff that you write, has any other been published or do you have any series or anything like that?


It has I have a series I'm now putting it back in that was published by Random House, you know about a decade and stayed in print for a long time now that it's out of print, I'm putting in fact on you know, bringing it back into it myself. But yeah, I've had four books with Random House and long time ago through with scholastic And then


That's


one publisher called Holiday House. That's like an educational market publisher. Yeah. I


Well.


don't think that's to identify ourselves because I think that ruins the survey for for the banana. The app totally like doing my usual. Here's my


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. I just want to ask if it was like,


because I was totally gonna I


yeah, that might break


four


the rules.


I don't


That


but I don't know if they're willing to put us in touch after it's done but I'm happy. But yeah, I have some very books and some dark fairy books and a young adults. It in Iceland that might actually be findable based on that.


young adult fairy would set in Iceland.


Well the fairy books are separated from the Iceland book but


Oh, it's different. Okay.


very books and books that in Iceland


Might be able to.


figure it out,


Yeah. And I actually uh um I really like um uh fantasy and dark, like dark fantasy and stuff like that. So dark


you know?


books and stuff like that be probably right down my alley.


Yeah. Cool, cool. Yeah.


That's really cool. Yeah, I'll have to. So


Yeah. I guess. Yeah. I don't know what the rules are for what they need for the the study. But yeah, if you find me,


yeah, if I if I find an author that has a series of books about dark ferries and a series of books that takes, does it take they take place in Iceland or are they actually about Iceland


they take place in Iceland.


like Iceland? And one of them is a four book series, 1 to 3 book series


One of the three and one's a stand alone.


on the stand alone. Okay. All right, that'll be fun. Be


Well


whenever one of the you know, whenever you're doing like this kind of work and you start getting bored and burned out and you're like, I need something else to do for a little bit. That'll be my something else to do for a little bit sad thing. Mm


Cool. Yeah.


Yeah. Oh, wow. Did we ask? Holy crap if we already


We


happened?


told our we're actually right about yeah. Actually once we got to talking about survey sites that kind of


Yeah, I got all excited like


we're talking about


places.


about part of the country to find too. But yeah, I'm curious what, I'll be curious what they are using it. You know what they're actually measuring,


Yeah, I know like, because I was thinking it might have something to do with, um, because there's going to be the questions afterwards. My prediction is that are going to be questions about being an isolation and how you felt before the conversation and how you felt after to find out if there's


Everything


like,


after the beginning.


kind of rude enhancing thing. Like did it make you feel better to connect with somebody or?


Uh That's my goal. I mean there could be some what was your impression at the star? What was your impression at the end type of stuff for? Alright. I realized I took a look so that I actually remember what you look like in case it's a study about. Yeah.


like a picture, like 15 people on the screen would be like


good one.


talking to.


Can you recognize this? Well, I guess we'll yeah, both find out what I think you're probably right though. It about isolation and connect ignorant.


Yeah. I feel like 75% of the jobs I've gotten over the last two months have been about COVID or about social isolation or something like that. It's like, it's like um the amount of like regular work has kind of gone down because of a lot


That means.


of like universities and marketing companies and stuff not putting as much money into it. But then at the same time there's been like this huge surge of surveys that have to do with current events and three. Yeah.


Even if that asked me when I last took a survey about COVID-19.


Yeah. Yeah. I had one that was like, how many surveys about COVID, 19 have you taken so far? And I was like, I have no idea. At least 100. It's been mostly all I've been doing


yeah. I think with a few other things but mostly Yeah.


or something completely unrelated. And then like at the very end I'll just tag a couple questions about it on. Yeah.


totally. Well I guess we'll find out what their questions are, you


We


know?


get closer predictions where see if we


Yeah, this is


free


pretty


speech.


funny. But


I know. I really enjoyed it. And now


or


I've got I've got a mystery to solve and I've got four new uh for new sites to check out. So really productive


we're


call.


gonna have a couple of new sites to check out too. So who called and


Well,


I


good with.


looked up on my list maybe to get I just got accepted. I haven't started combing through the site yet. So I might be a thing her this week.


For what?


That might be a thing for this week. One of to do this. He was there. Well, thanks for chatting.


Yeah. You too. It was nice to anonymously meet you.


Well honestly fun watching these afterwards.


All right. They


were


report.


like, we spent the whole thing. I'm talking about how to make money on other sites.


Because you didn't give us any guidelines. So


Yeah. Talk about whatever you want. So


so we did.


yeah, it is.


We'll


Talk


take


about


care of it. Good sort


look,


of new


yeah, went from weather, uh money making


sarah.


sites to um um the mystery of of what books you've written


Well,


to uh trying to predict what the experiments about. So


They


enjoy


will


that


find


people.


them or they want us, I guess we can close the window. And then so


I think


after.


they had some instructions on the site. I'm going to go read that if if end up clicking off figuring this out. It's


The technical,


nice. Top again.


the technical quality of the chat. So I think it's okay to look like they assume we're done.


Oh, oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello?


All right. Can you hear me?


Yeah. Can you hear me? I don't have headphones on.


Actually? We get, yeah, I'm Julia,


I'm julie. Yeah.


Okay.


Remember? Yeah.


Um, yeah. And so I am a recent college graduate. Um, It,


did you go to school?


I went to UNC Chapel Hill. Yeah. Go


Yeah.


hell.


Some north Carolina. Okay.


From Kerry born and raised there.


Hey?


Um, Yeah. Actually my parents house right now. My old race bids from high school are still up in the wall.


barely see them up. I can see the bottoms of the numbers race. Cross country.


I did. I don't anymore. These are old. But yeah, I did a cross country and then I did track in the spring usually, but not so much anymore.


No, no easel. Okay.


Yeah. I was over it. Right.


So I'm in Minnesota. Oh, very different from north Carolina and yes, I mean even though it's 50 here, which is like a big deal and I, um, and I am way out of college. I'm actually fifties wearing with an end of the spectrum. What else can I tell you? I have two dogs. So if your snoring, it's not me. It's my dog.


Yeah, I see the little burn behind you. Yeah,


Yeah. That's, so we have pictures of 32 dogs that passed away and then that one's empty because we never got a picture of the other two. But,


tracking.


so they are Zonta right now. Yeah. So they both have cancer. So we're kind of fighting through that. The one um got her leg amputated about five months ago and she's kicking butt so


Excellent.


I cried so much before we had to do it and then like I was just freaked out about like how we're going to teach her everything and she just like figured it out on her own, like


Smart


it was before we were ready and I was like oh my gosh! All right, you guys what?


Alright. Good for her.


Yeah, it's been an experience.


Yeah, That's a fun time. Um, I've got, there's two dogs downstairs as well.


Humphrey,


Um, yeah, one of them is actually, his name is Astro and he's five now, but practically five years ago. We fostered his pregnant mom who then had 15 puppies. And


No.


yeah, we, we kept them for seven or eight weeks and then they all went out to their forever homes. But


What?


then Astro came back about a year later because whoever had him, I couldn't keep them, they were moving somewhere that didn't allow dogs just bad, but then we got him back. So


What


ask


kind of


you


dog was that? They had so many puppies I've never heard of.


her foster or her adoptive parents got a genetic test and I think they said she was like a like large part cattle dog. So yeah, they have a lot of puppies I think frequently.


Yeah, we are. Is this Catahoula leopard dog which is kind of not like hurting type. And they're both pitbull mixes but I can't believe 15 puppies. That's crazy.


it was incredible.


So they were at your how you were fostering one. Did you know she was pregnant? Okay,


did, yeah,


wow


we we knew coming in we had her only like two weeks before she gave birth. So


way had


it was kind of like


other dogs before that.


no our first and only,


That's kind


I


of new.


don't know why my parents were thinking, but it was a good time.


Yeah. What an experience that So uh


I was I was super fun, there's a lot of work but unfortunately it was over the summer so um I was home and I was able to help out which is good.


Always better than when it's a little chillier out and you have to hang up. Yeah.


Yeah.


We've always gotten our dogs when it's been chilly. Which I'm always like, what what are we thinking? Because it's no where then you have to train them to go outside. Our youngest dog. The girl dog, she's from Tennessee. And we've only had, she's seven what? We've had her three years and the first time I dropped a little 40 degrees, she was like, nope. Not going to like for 40 days. We could not get her to go outside. She held it so long. Were like, you have to go outside but not anymore. You're not a cat like go do your. Uh huh.


That's what he does. Can be really really finicky like that.


Yeah. They're so quirky. Which is what I love about them. So um Disaster have a lot of energy. Still isn't so good. Popular.


Yeah. He's crazy. You think he's two years old still? But


Isn't that funny? We have another dog is 14 and still is like, well he's got cancer and he's um, He was only supposed to live five months and it's been 10 months now. But I think he knows because he's just like a puppy right now. Like he's just start eating out of the garbage, which he's never done before. That we've had to put like


Good.


baby proof locks on everything because he's lost his mind. And I think he just knows that like time. So I'm gonna do whatever I want and you can't do anything. So.


He's having a good time.


Yes. Yes. He's getting


That's good.


we want, you know, of course we want him as long as we can so we will just like bear everything that to get into. But like, oh dog, you're driving us crazy. So


Yeah and I know that feeling.


for sun.


It's funny how how they like once I get all of you sometimes you can really tell it's like they're running around like yourself puppies.


yeah older. The first dog we had rebel which fit him like perfectly. Like even in his oldest age he could barely walk but if he'd get out of the gate somehow he just slow truck down the street like he was making a break for it was like, dude we're going to catch you in like two


That's


weeks. He was,


cute.


he was like, you know


Okay. I'll keep drying anyways.


what exactly, just getting into trouble. Some


Thank you. Are you dogs only person? You've got other pets and stuff?


um, as an adult, Yes dogs only as a child we had a cat that ran away. Um, but I think I have an allergy to cats. I love people's cats but


You?


and then I also had rabbits as a kid. Those were like the only other things. How about


Yeah. Um I had my parents have had only dogs so when I was living with them um But in college the I shared a house with some of my my friends and we had a cat together.


I don't


His name is franklin. He was very cute. Um I'm going to cast to but whatever. I just I just kept him out of my room and it was fine. Yeah. I love cat. You're so cute.


Yeah they're just so cozy and like you know very like relaxing and calming and not like dogs that are like you know getting Yeah exactly.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, franklin was he was a super cuddly cat. Do so anyone has done like couch and you walk on over and curl up on you?


I love that we have actually, we have neighbors that have outdoor cats and they will come sit on our front step and want to be petted and stuff. But then when they see the dogs they freak out


It's true.


from what is to come in our backyard to like under the fence trip the light and then when the dogs see him they want to go home with them and I'm like no that's not


No,


and well


can't do that. Yeah. Thanks capsule like that very much.


what is this? An indoor cat? Yeah.


He actually um right before hurricane came through, he actually escaped. Um So he weathered the hurricane, we found him later. He was in like our neighbor's shed so at least he had shelter and he was fine. But so these are scary.


I don't know how people do it with the outdoor cats. Like I would worry every single second I see it on like the next door up all the time where people have their cats have gone missing. I'm like oh my gosh like I'm starting for you. Like how can you not be stressed about this outdoor? No.


I don't understand like how do they have, how do they get them to not just run away?


That's what I don't get either. But um and my the lady that does my hair said she was trying to train her cat to not be an outdoor cat and they had to like throw like um like pots and pans on the floor by the door to like scare it. And I was like, well that seems traumatic to like, I think I want to get away from that. So I don't know like if some are just like predisposed to being outdoor cats.


How do you find out? Just


What?


like let him out and see what happens?


Yeah, we're clean.


I


Well


don't understand like I've seen like people, their dogs just kind of like sit there on in the front yard not fencing. I just I just don't understand I guess I guess in the past when dogs have escaped every some there's one dog that I used to have when I was a kid, she would just sit on the front porch until we realized she was missing and then let her back in the house.


Funny.


But yeah. So I don't know. I say do it on their own. I don't know.


Yeah. I don't I mean I don't even trust our dogs to go from like the car to the house because Like we have deer in our yard and like the cats and stuff that they just lose their minds, especially this time of year where I'm like, no it's like two ft but they still are like, you know, dog brain? They never happened. So


They hear a stick brick and then there are enough


it's


to the races.


not have them on their own. For sure.


Yeah. We have um are we have like a greenway like a past thing kind of behind our back yard, like a little outlet next to it. So the greenery is on two sides for backyard. Um And our dogs love barking at everyone on


For


the greenway.


donald


Yeah. So I'm sure if they were to get out there and have a great time and that's where we take them on walks and stuff too so.


You did die with them to get that energy out of them that wanting to bargain tough. Yeah. Yeah. We have, so I have woods in our backyard and so there's deer that come back there. Um So they will go out and market that, especially in the fall now that it's like hunting season, like twice this past summer, the deer actually jumped over our four ft fence and was like standing in our backyard. I'm like, oh my gosh, like what, you know what is going on and what if the dogs are out there? Like how we're gonna keep that from happening again? It's still, we've


ever seen that before.


that's crazy. Yeah I think we used to have a couple of years in our backyard but it's been years there is kind of more developed now. Yeah.


Yeah.


It's like a suburb type.


Pretty old. Like you know like 70, you know, homes built in the 70s? We're still too. I mean they actually have people that come in hired by the city to like reduce the number of deer because they're so in there. Which is kind of sad because I'm like just drive slower. Not that bad. Oh


I say that you're are you like we're in are you like pretty close to the city or you kind of the kind of world?


I live in Eden Prairie which is like Probably like 15 minutes outside of Minneapolis 15, 20 minutes West. Yeah. So it's not bad. But


Yeah pretty close to a bunch of cars and stuff. It's kind of weird that there's still a bunch of deer then.


Yeah. It is it's very weird and there's like coyote that like show up and then they just found like a cougar. Yeah. I go like £140 Cougar I think it was like not too far away and which is like they every time there's been like a cougar sighting there like no it


Hey.


wasn't. It was like some other big cat but like they confirmed by um the Department of Natural Resources that it was actually cooler than that


well


is because it's like I let the dogs just roam during the day, you know when I'm at home and


thanks,


just never know what's gonna creep.


let's drink 140 lb. I don't know how big I expected the cooker to be but it wasn't that make.


Remember exactly the pause on it though they showed the picture was like enormous, where I was like it's as big as my dogs had. Oh


He said you get other kinds of big cats though more often.


um no normally


That's not normally


northern


I think. All right.


And so this I think I don't think they normally have Cougars as far south baby or maybe they come up anyways, we don't usually have them like in the cities and they have had sightings. People will say oh my trail cam picked up I think it's a cougar and then you know it will be like, no that wasn't a cougar was like some other big cat or like just just.


Another critter. That's kind of crazy. We get like I get coyotes and foxes. We actually had a I think someone's up there over the summer which was kind of wild honestly. Yeah


That's crazy.


I'm like yeah someone caught on there like backyard security camera looking for food and trash but


What?


that's really where I think.


Yeah, yep. Sometimes they'll come down from northern Minnesota like looking for food too. But yeah that's very rare in them where I live to see you there. Mhm.


yeah all kinds of wildlife. You have squirrels up there.


Yes, tens of yeah. Do you?


Yeah we have squirrels and groundhogs and chipmunks and those are the common ones I think around


more.


here.


Last week I went outside to find the girl dog holding a squirrel in her mouth. Oh


yeah


my God. Yeah so I got her dropping and I think it had fallen out of the tree and just like stunned and then she got it. Um but then it took off like we were able to and then we have chipmunks that are pestering her to run


boy.


across the deck and every time she hears it squeeze she had to go chase it and then it hides under the grill. It's like their daily gold. We don't have


that's funny.


like groundhog so I don't think or not that I see.


Yeah they're good they're gonna hiding I think they're hibernating now. Maybe two But they hibernate for like six or 7 months out of the year or something. Yeah.


they they tunnel right like okay. So I feel like I've seen on next door people say that they have groundhog because they have like the whole regard.


normally there if there's like one you probably have a like a whole colony nearby so yeah they don't range very far I don't think.


interesting. We do have um What I say possum but do you say opossum?


I don't really know to be honest.


we have like possum show up one night it tripped the backlight and they look so prehistoric because they have like pointy noses.


the glowing eyes.


Yeah I know what the heck is it was like wanders in our yard. Everyone's wrong, trips the motion detector and hangs up that and then goes away so.


they don't do much nice baby books maybe


Oh do they?


and so yeah they're good they're good for the environment and they eat some nasty bugs and I don't know.


Well I'm not that anything that gets rid of the gross pugs is fine with me. Uh


that's cool a little freaky but the mosquitoes so that's cool with me. Uh


Yeah.


We need more, more bats. I think. I haven't noticed any like like we'd hear them like if we had a bonfire you could hear like wings and what? I haven't heard any Forever


I don't know. Maybe the city finally drive away.


Right. Um And that was something I was gonna say earlier when I can't remember what


If


it was.


you go to school for him.


Um exercise and sports science so all right.


well what is your, like, what do you know what you want to do with that?


I I would like to be a strength coach. So I did an internship in the like the athlete weight room where I basically helped the real coaches um with the like the varsity teams, their training sessions and I had a great time there And I did some observation that like a um like like not like they weren't there like a regular gym, they have a couple like they train the pro soccer team in the area but it also like it across the classes and stuff. And I worked with some high schoolers there and they have like a high school strength conditioning class class and that was a good time to so I'm thinking somewhere in there. So currently unemployed. So


It's funny


you know.


like when I went to high school, like we didn't do any like strength training. Like there was like most girls because I played tennis and basketball and softball where we would go work out. But you never like, that was never a thing back in like the 80s and like what a big deal an important part of right? Yes


It's really important. I mean I know that obviously, but even like even at night when I was in high school we like there was a weight room and I think maybe the football team


or


and the basketball team used and that's about it. So


hope.


it's been really good to see that. It's like that kind of thing is on the rise now, which is good for me.


And especially doing it with all teams. Like we, the health club, we go, there's just like a small club down the block and it's like open, you know, you can just go in whenever, but they do train a lot of like high school teams and stuff. It's kind of fun to see and it's like kind of like motivating to see like these young kids like you know what they do and how they work out and stuff. So


Yeah, there's something, there can be some pretty creative stuff depending on the sport, you know, especially when you say like once you get into the in season stuff, you're not supposed to do a lot of heavy stuff. So you do kind of lighter, more dynamic he looks, that's all the cool like spinning and jumping and whatever. So yeah,


Mm. Yeah.


he said you did basketball and tennis in high school


Yes. And what? In software? Yeah. So


and this.


yeah, basketball. I'm super short. So I only move, I only play booby for three years. Tennis. I played all four years and then softball, I tried to play in high school but I always had mono in the spring for some reason, so that then I played just in the summer like aspect. So yeah.


you do any of that after graduation? I can call drinking.


for played softball for a long time and also broomball. Um you don't know what the hell is yet so well is on the ice and you have boots on that have like foam on the bottom, we're that kind of like grip the ice and then you have a stick, it looks like a broom but it's like actually like plastic and then you ball that's like smaller than the soccer ball. And so it's like hockey only with like running in a different stick and a bigger mouth. Sure.

Yeah, sure. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Right. Mhm. Okay.


Okay. Yeah. Sounds like you get that something


No.


I would like to be honest. I was like


Or


like floor hockey and stuff down here


Oh fun. Yeah I played that


and


in college. It's one of those we have to like something to do in winter to live here because you're crazy with You know when it gets to be like $20.


Being stuck inside taking into like crazy low temperatures up there. I like below freezing for below zero. For sure.


Yeah so we've had like last year we had some days that were like 20 below like just


One.


and then the wind chill on top of that brings into like 40 below. But that's not like we don't get that a lot so.


yeah, but so I think it's been below freezing here. Probably. I can count on one hand the number of times. It's not below freezing, sorry, below zero.


Coffee.


So yeah, I think it's no every once in a while, not that not like he probably wouldn't call us now. It's like an inch maybe.


Yeah. Exactly. That's when you say that because I went to las Vegas one time to meet my husband for his work was out there and you got like a dusting of snow and it completely shut down on the las Vegas airport rerouted us to California. So is it like


You


that they're like where everything stops


it's


crazy. There's every time it snows anything more than any time it snows at all. Honestly, there's always like the news is like all about the giant wrecks on the highway and then stand still. The bread is gone from the stores, the milk eggs. I don't know what they're gonna do with all those may make french toast maybe. I don't know. But


It's funny.


Sounds like kind of a disaster. But Oh well.


Yeah it's still fun driving in the snow so I totally get you know.


Yeah, it can be a key. Especially if no one around here has any parents doing it. So american we can't have, we can't use chains on their tires either. It's illegal. And let's see the post office.


Oh really? That makes sense. Well I guess.


Because that I guess like maybe the roads aren't meant to hold up to that kind of thing down here. I'm not sure.


I don't even know people like in where I live that use chains maybe like in northern Minnesota where it's like you know to get a lot of like zero you know 30 below 010. But I didn't


Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know why the no change thing has been so impressed on me. But every time it snows, I'm like only the postal service in the strange today. Thanks. So I don't know.


who


But yeah.


can ruin the roads but none of us can money.


I guess they're the only ones who have a valid reason or something. I don't know. Whatever has reasons for everything you know? Yeah. Um Actually probably don't get any hurricanes out there.


No property landlocked although we did have last night the rains were really bad and like whipping you know like the tops of the trees blowing. Then that's like my impression of like a hurricane is like, you know just like the sideways rain. But I'm sure it's like, do you


actually


get all her things down there?


um I'm near Raleigh so we're again kind of towards the middle of the state so it's usually it's not too bad usually just raining a little wind by the time it gets to us but every once in a while there's some like down tree branches and not a couple trees knocked over especially if they're big and old. Yeah actually had a pretty big hailstorm not too long ago. Like two inch hail was pretty significant especially for here. Um That was kind of like like one of the the arms of the hurricane, Some hurricane was passing by us and that gave us a little bit of something. So yeah,


It seems like it's been kind of a bad year for hurricanes. Yeah.


especially in the gulf, I don't know, like halfway through the greek alphabet or something by now. It seems like I ran out of the, the abc names.


Oh is that what they do not extend the greek girl? Okay.


Yeah, they like alpha beta. I don't know after that. Delta. Yeah.


I was wondering how they came up with Delta because I keep


So


confused of the airline every time I see a way.


Delta's


Well, yeah.


in the goal and I'm


Well


sure that there all the time. Yeah. Um Yeah, I don't know. I still haven't remembered what I thought about earlier, but sure is about pets or something.


I'm surprised you're not louder right now. Canal


Yeah. Are they snoring?


they are snoring and the old dog has finally settled in. He gets um, I feel like he gets weird now at night, like he wants to go to bed like when it gets dark at six o'clock today, when I was starting to get dark, he was already getting antsy and like,


Thanks.


but he doesn't want, he wants everyone to be together with them. And it's like, dude, you can go like link form but we're not, the whole family is not coming to lay down with you right now. So go to


we have one dog that kind of does that too. If you did. So I see most to go to bed. She goes in there and then if people keep doing their stuff, that was wine big, come on coming, you know?


Yeah. That's funny. What


Oh, I remember um I played ultimate frisbee in college,


program?


so I don't know.


So All right, so ultimate frisbee. Is that the one that's like football? Okay.


footballs. Some people know by that name too. Yeah.


because I've seen it on ESPN before. Um so how is that? So is it do you have the same number of players that you do football? Like 11 or whatever?


it's seven on seven. And after every time there's a touchdown or a goal we call it and you can swap out. Usually most people swap out. So it's a fresh seven people. But I guess it's pretty similar in football. But


Do you tackle?


no, it's it's non contact. So um you throw and you catch and once you if you have the frisbee, you can't run with it so you catch and you slow down and stop and then after that you have to find someone else to throw it to. So there's no like and you can't run into the end zone, you have to catch it there for the count.


And is it like plastic Frisbees or is it like the fabric ones that like I have for the dog that are like


It's a plastic one. It's like yea big And it's the way it is 175 g. I don't know if that means anything to you but Yeah.


What was saying,


Yeah. It's pretty cool. I have a good time. Um It's


pardon?


more support than people realize I think. But


Did you play in high school like how did you get into playing that?


um my brother and my older brother by two years, he played it in college and my dad when he was in college played just for fun and Uh huh. There they have pretty good teams that you didn't see. So I was like I'm gonna give it a try because like I said I was I was tired of doing running so try something new. Yeah.


Yeah. I don't think that it's as a popular appear just because snow and stuff like we did, we were at a park last weekend where they had the frisbee golf, you have like the things, you know, set up for you like into, but I've never seen, I've only seen on ESPN where they played ultimate frisbee, I've never seen it in person or any like teams locally that do that.


Yeah. I think there's I know teams of north, there's not that many but the ones that like the good ones that do play up north, they have like the bubbles with the turf field is covered in the big white bubble thing they put in there. That's not very fun. I don't think so. Not a lot of people are interested in that.


And I bet you had said like gross like fake grass where it probably hurts school.


Yeah it is. Yeah.


we have a lot of domes around here, but it just doesn't seem like, I mean, I guess it's good in the offseason, but like to play it. No, I don't think it would be as funny.


Yeah there's there's no wind in there which is it's normally a big part of the game. It's like it's kind of it's really weird to play with just like the air so dead, it makes everything echo. And it could be way too.


no, I didn't even think about the wind factor of it, so I'm never like, is there like tips for like how to throw a physically streaks? I feel like I throw it and it's like either like sideways or it's like wobbly. Like I never like, I don't know if you like, I have to release it, somebody


Yeah so the two main things or when you throw it you gotta keep it flat. So if you tilt it up like this or like this then they kind of like do some wonky curve stuff and then you like snap your wrist like a like a whip or a baseball. So those two things though, I should fix you up real quick.


that would be hard to get used to I think


Yeah it takes it takes a lot of practice to be honest.


wouldn't


Um And still I've been playing for real for four years and I didn't throw it pretty well but not very accurately. And uh and the downfield receiver type player so I just ran around and catch.


Okay, so you have like positions like, like any other sport hours and it's like certain, like,


Yeah. It's not so strict as other sports, but there's like the kind of the group of players that are better throws and end up doing more of the throws. And then the other group with it like me that are not as good as throws and do more of the running around. So yeah,


cool,


normally the the throwers are like ex softball players or I don't know some other aren't tennis tennis players. Good good arms that they've already developed there and they just they already have the strength to the throat. And then you know the cross country kids run around for hours on the other side of the field and just catch whatever they throw.


Burning out some energy. What's the thing you'll keep playing now that


I


you're


hope so. Yeah. It's been a bit tough in the current endemic.


yeah, I forget that everything is kind of like on hold the contract stuff.


Yeah. There's usually like, I know around here at least there's like summer leagues and like winter indoor pickup and stuff. Uh for adults too. So once once things kinda clear up, I'll definitely be looking into that. So yeah, even if it's low level, I think I'd still like to play just for fun. Pick up. Yeah.


A lot of interesting people, you need to bring that to, you just pick up brooms and things like that.


Yeah, it's a yeah, it's a good little community that's I'm glad to be part of it.


Cool. I'm gonna have to check it out.


Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you have a ton of luck finding, finding people up there, but


no, but every fun to watch and see people actually finds.


Yeah, I think there is the men's protein and like a good club team up there. They do like halftime things for the Vikings every once in a while they're like exhibition games there. I see clips, but every once in a while that, so, which is really cool. Honestly,


we'll check it out. I never watch football so I would never


I mean,


who never


there's always the replacing them like in the end zone and the people of the crowds like.


going to take me. It's coming Awesome. Well we made it 30 minutes, can you believe?


A couple extra minutes for buffer. Right.


Yeah.


Yeah. Well,


So now


who is that,


there are


I guess? Yeah.


simple.


I don't know if you just X out of the Tabernacle. Mhm.


I don't know either. I kept the other thing open. I mean, yeah, you just come back and do


And do the survey. No. Well, I guess I'll just uh


exit out.


yeah, I don't see any buttons anywhere. Oh


It's fun talking to you, Julia.


yeah, it was nice meeting you julie.


Have a good day,


Yeah, you could.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


Hello? Mm hmm.


Pretty good. Everyone.


If you're you. There we go. How are you doing today?


I'm going to be tired but overall good. How about


I'm


yourself?


a little and I'm a little anti, I just found out that I had another one of these like 10 minutes ago because they didn't want, I did one yesterday and normally they tell you when you're scheduled, but they just told me they sent me an email an hour ago saying you have one at one PM today. And so I'm really your, we're both lucky that I checked my email because I just found out that I had to do one of these. So pardon me if I'm a little Anthony.


No, no, you're actually, I kind of forgot about his new little world, luckily had


What?


an alarm set down down.


it's


That was one


this


of those


is probably


days.


my favorite thing on prolific. 25


I won't


minutes. 15 bucks.


yeah, it's such good money for what it is.


Okay. And they don't make you wait, they pay the same day,


Yeah. It's pretty awesome. Like I've done it about, it's going to be my fourth time for their family. Yeah.


This is my 3rd 1. So, uh, what's your name? I'm Griffin, nice to meet you.


Place


So what kind of stuff are you into, man?


um these things are just play a lot of video games mostly. Um


Good start. Yeah,


Really just been doing like all mine work and stuff like that since Hey, that's my beer too. Mm. Mhm.


Don't mind me,


Well you're going person


I'm not drunk or anything so don't worry about it.


definitely what are usually drink?


It's an unbelievably cheap At my local store, you get two for under $6 and it's a lot weaker than the stuff that I used to drink. So it's a step


You know?


in the right direction generally. Yeah.


Well, I'm trying to like hold back my fault.


Uh huh. I'm a bit of a literal alcoholic. So uh


man.


I just have to, it is what I was drinking before was 14% and that's danger zone that I might as well be drinking hard liquor, which is just not that good. Look, I can function drinking this stuff and I can go about my day and you know


I just always don't feel my so much embarrassing. Shut Okay, stocks.


uh my worst habit is is messaging people when I'm drunk.


Mind


Like


you


I I wish that I could just ban myself from facebook messenger when I was drunk because I wake up in the


just


morning.


like a black lives on it or something that you had a foreign but


All


you use it. Thanks.


so


Thank you.


I will wake up, I will wake up and I'll just be so anxious like what


What?


did I say? What did I uh God, but I haven't had any issues in quite a while.


Okay, that's good.


What kind of games do you like man? What


well


have you been playing?


and been playing a lot of that, you know? So lately


Oh, I have never actually, I tried it like really early and we hated it.


yeah, I started playing it like the whole spirit came out just we didn't really like it either mostly because it's like the whole class system and stuff that I've had. Like it's completely different from all the other like other stars games picked it up again like maybe a couple months ago and it's it's better but it's basically the same thing. It's


Well I I really like eldest girls lower, kind of a big dork about it and they


I don't know a lot about that.


like, like sludge muppet and stuff, but


it's necessarily good.


but they've messed up a bunch of the lower and so I don't know. All


like all them books and stuff that shouldn't even be around yet.


the usual.


It's retarded.


I actually got the urge to play an MMO pretty recently and I got into final Fantasy.


Oh that final fantasy 14. Mhm.


And I played it for like two weeks straight. I like no life it and I reached max level and then I just stopped. I


You


don't know


know yet?


like I just didn't feel that like because there was Endgame stuff and I really didn't like the community, maybe it was my service


weeks and I start playing because the community there really bossy, I just


and


do


that to be able to handle.


Really gross. They're like the most horny group of online


The


gamers I've ever encountered in my entire life, unpleasant to be around when luckily I was playing like a male care, like a generic human male, so I wasn't slobbered


Great


over like lots of things are in that game, but I don't know, I reached level 80 black maids and was like good. And then I just never picked it back up again. I've been playing games can impact a little


you


bit,


can


which is pretty bad, but pretty good


I've never even heard of that one.


against an impact. Is it's like, have you, have you played breath of the wild?


No


Well, it's it's a lot like the New Zelda, it's like open world, pretty kind of sandbox Dealio but tension impact is free to play. Uh But it's a gotcha with anime, anime characters. It's really,


My dad


it's it's really good is the problem. Like, I should hate it and I know that they want you to spend money on it, but I'm not going to spend any fucking money on it and it's gorgeous and free and you can play it the same account on your phone, on your computer, kind of dope. You might want to check it out. I would not spend any money on that shit. But I know people that have Uh huh


I'm actually kind of looking for something else to play really burn out on here. I am please take me description things about to end and I'm not even gonna into it right?


I only, I like the Xbox game pass a lot because they just add free shit all the time, like truly good titles and and I like Rogue lite Roguelikes, Roguelikes and they add those constantly. So with like that once uh I just check it like once a week and there's almost always something new to play on it. Yeah,

Yeah. Yeah. Yes yeah yeah yeah yeah mm Okay


it's pretty


but I've been playing, I've been playing some other weird shit. Uh I've been playing Dagger Fall Unity


Yeah. Gary Era


back.


better.


Yeah. Well Dagger Fall, it's the second elder scrolls game, but they put it into the Unity engine and made it not terrible to play and it has mob support and that's also totally free.


I'm gonna have to look into that. Their


Dagger


people


Fall Unity is pretty, pretty damn it because you can just download Dagger Fall because you need like the ace files for it. Like you can get those free


think


from Bethesda because they don't charge for that game anymore because it's from dos.


mm Actually just type that ends, I wouldn't forget about it.


I want.


Very good thank you.


there's a popular Youtuber who does really long streams of Niagara Fall Unity and he has a list of mobs that he uses that I used as the basis for my list of mods. It is a big damn dork. But uh it's fun. I have probably, I don't know, 30 hours on this character and it's fun. It's it's very dungeon Crawley the world is super huge.


Yeah, that's what I uh


It's


seem


literally


like


the size of great Britain.


Damn.


Yeah, it's it's unbelievably stupid, huge. But it was all procedurally generated. And then in a similar vein I


I think,


just be more wind on open, more wind because I own moral in and that they put that on a new engine to and made that better. Not that it


Like


was bad.


multiplayer now 1st.


Oh, I've never done that but that would be super fun. Yeah.


you can do it on your


If


phone. Yeah.


I hate playing things on my phone


I


unless I can use it.


don't think I could play morrow and then


don't


fall


know


more. That's just a bit much. Okay.


of but unless I can use this guy


Me.


The eight bit though. It's an eight bit though so it has Bluetooth, I can connect it to my phone but


Thank


not everything


you.


supports that. That's the best controller ever made by a man in my opinion.


mm hmm. I am kind of got stuck, like I've never beaten the DLC for marwan yet. Like I kind of got like stuck in this like habit of doing like permanent runs with it and I always just end up doing something stupid like get myself killed and so


Get yourself. Yeah I get yourself like that.


thank


Well


I like I like Tribunal a lot which is the first of the D. L. C. S. And I think that that one is just great because it deals with the tribunal. You get to deal with Alm alexia. You get cool narrow marine stuff you get to see. So Sill who's my favorite of the Tribunal Blood Moon? I hated and in fact my last play through I stopped like halfway through because it was so boring and fetch questions and I I don't I don't want to be aware wolf. So uh

Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah,


paramount to like a lot of hunger model animal just bombarded with rebels that happening.


well it's sort of like based around it you get like the special ring that her sings ring that makes your where willpower better and you can do it, it will.


Yeah. Does that


I


work?


don't know I did not I did not take that one And I really tried, I really and I pushed through I gave it like five hours or something like running around and it's just like man, I just don't care about any of these. It was the last expansion pack for that for that to that game and writing just wasn't very good police in my opinion, but more wins general writing and it's storytelling is just unbelievably good.

Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.


Yeah, I've only played three and elders hold like, of course 34 and five for one is definitely my favorite.


Yeah I have a soft spot for it because I had it at release and it was the first game I ever wanted and so yeah and so I've played dog shit out of it when I was like I don't know, 12 or 13 or whatever, however old I was in that without you know.


Quite a living in first and then tomorrow.


I believe it is good. Oblivion is good. I I replayed it like two years ago and like fully broke the game like just fully like made the most unbelievably overpowered character. Use the glitch where you can use the staff and you can clone people so you can get items. Yeah it's the school of corruption and you can clone a dead body. And so like for example in the arena there's a guy who has a shield that grants 100% resistance to magic but you can't pick up, you can't pick up items from the arena normally, But you can use that glitch to be able to pick it up and then you have 100% resistance magic one slot and I just I just broke

Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Okay.


You can,


it and it was pretty fun but I don't really want to play it again. Not for a while anyways. What kind of music do you like? Okay.


Yeah, terrorist depends um really big in the modest mouse burger while um I don't know. I've been looking into a lot of Shannon


from


Bennet and which is I know it's really lame, but


lot of what?


Sharon van etten.


I don't know who that is so I can't make money. I don't wear. Is you seem embarrassed?


Well, I mean secondary


I don't


fact.


know. I listen to I don't know, I listen a lot of weird shit. I listen to a lot of folk punk. Um I listened to a lot of whatever my Spotify recommends me because it recommends me, you know that it gives me like a weekly playlist and it's like bedroom park and I don't know weird yet. I mean if I were to say my favorite band is probably the strokes.


Yeah, there we are.


Uh huh Which is


That's


pretty


what


free.


I'm


Uh huh. My mom was really into them when they were first releasing their first albums like is this it? And then I got into them and I just never stopped


Great.


like um like my comfort music, you know? Sorry, I smoke a lot.


No, you're fine. I'm a smoker too. I just don't smoke inside because this room has like no ventilation at all.


Mhm. It's a requirement for me. I need to be able to smoke in my bedroom because I hate having to get up and do the whole I brought a lot of incent. So.


Yeah. Do you have any that's Yeah.


You have any what? Um I don't But in in the main house because I'm in a guesthouse, they have My mom has two dogs and then my brother and my niece have three cats. And I I like the little dogs. My mama's little dogs are really cool, but I I'm not really into cats. I think they're assholes.


Mhm. I like that one pack up.


huh. I'm just uh they just they just vomit in stupid places and dicks hair. There were a lot of blacks. Always pet Harold.


That's why you just


No.


get a black cat.


Right. True. No, sure now. So he has a black cat and she's she's a siberian and her hair is like


Big


it's actually like almost brown so it still shows. Although I'm I'm interested in getting rats. I would like a couple of fancy rats


I had


because I


partner


think


at one of them right there. They're pretty cool.


as long as long as you get pet rex and not like featurettes and try to keep those because that doesn't work out the same. They're really smart and sweet and don't take up a whole lot of space. You can hang out with them and then you can put them away sort of up my alley. My room is pretty small. I wouldn't be able to have like a dog or anything. Madness. Yeah. Timer We have we're doing good we're doing good 12 minutes. I think we'll just stop at 30 after if that's good with you.

Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


Like They're like eight or so.


Yeah. Just because they say you have to do at least 25 minutes and there's no wiggle room so you want to go over a little bit, I think from


or so. Yeah. Yeah, I'm horrible. But people like the conversation. So like


I'm


these


sorry.


things like stress me the fuck out. Honestly.


well, I'm pretty easy going man, so you don't gotta worry. I think you're pretty nice. Do you have any hobbies?


Uh not really like any gonna build ships in bottles or anything like that.


Oh, that would be a pretty cool hot. Yeah.


Uh Madam kind of ended like herbal medicine sometimes. That


That's cool.


very


I


important.


got really I got really into that conceptually when I was like 14 and like mortar and pestle and got all these books from Bookman's about it and stuff. I think it's a cool idea.


Yeah. So I'm pretty useful to come in, especially when you don't really have a lot of money, you know?


Sure, sure we used to make bombs used to make bombs for all kinds of things, They probably still have some bombs I like uh well


I think,


I play UKulele um and I make shit, I make all kinds of stuff. I make skateboards, I do art. Uh I do poetry sometimes.


Yeah. Bang like freaking renaissance man up in here. Yeah.


Well I have I have a low attention stand so I need to have vast interest to keep me interested in something because I can't do one thing for too terribly wrong. I'm also pretty dang good cook. I say so myself. I'm like a poor foodie, you know.


Mhm. Yeah. Like I'm really good at making mind. I mean a lot of like a couple bucks.


Yeah. What's your favorite food? If you had to choose like right now, just off the top of your head? Like what your food?


bread, definitely bread. Yeah.


I'm in love


Do you


with


like,


red beans and rice.


I've never been too big in the beans or rice actually like a lot of starches and stuff, but yeah.


well I went to Louisiana because I live in Tucson Arizona and Running through Tucson Arizona is the interstate 10 And we drove the entire length of the I-10 all the way to Florida and we stopped in Louisiana to visit my friends, family. And uh we had just this unbelievable feast of southern food and I ate my weight in red beans and rice and I've just never turned back from it being like uh the perfect food. I can eat it like every day with club crackers. Right? I hate it when you put the cigarette out but it doesn't actually go out, we'll just keep burning and

Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm, mm hmm. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


But


then you smell it


when the water I hate that


smell it and it smells


week.


like shit. Like what the fuck? It didn't smell like shit a minute ago. Uh huh. Yeah.


Yeah.


Go ahead man. We can talk about video games, we can talk about video games all day. Probably. Mm Well no, I


it


found


is


it pretty interesting. Go ahead. Go ahead.


Because if you had to like worship


Come


one


on,


of the elder scrolls gold, which one


come


would


on.


be,


Same would absolutely. Oh that's Deidre. So I mean they


I


still


mean that was, that's kind of like what I was


thinking


from


about a boy asked, but


at this stage of worship. But if I was gonna I was gonna go for the idea of the Deidre, I would probably go with sanguine because of the debauchery


I mean,


and the Dionysus aspect of it. But for a dra the nine Divines I think probably Giuliano's because I like magic. I I play I play a wizard and everything including


Yeah. I was playing, I


quickly.


need more pumpkin with like just usually like a ranger or something. But with a little bit imagine feel, you know, just for utility apartment telephone.


I in every game that I possibly can I play a male wizard including D. And D. And I've I've had probably like six male human wizards. Indian media because I'm boring. But it's what I like.


It


I think magic is fucking awesome.


there.


My most recent run in Skyrim was con duration only own and it was pretty


Wonderful.


awesome so I could use swords but only bound weapons. Do you like some in the swords and just like army of skeletons kind of a leo which is neat and with the ritual stone unmodified because I played pretty model but with unmodified the ritual stone you can bring back to life like all the dead things in a huge ass area so you let kill abandoned camp and cast the ritual and they all become your like an army of people become your Thrones and that's pretty funny. Uh

Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Pretty overpower. Welcome to certain situation.


I like overpower, I'm cheesy, I mean I've beaten all the dark souls, so it's not like I mind


In the basement.


challenges but I can work towards breaking the game and becoming really strong. I will


Thank


because


you.


that


Thank you.


uh well it's like power fantasy sort of stuff, I like that, I like that in comic books too just because you know like I don't like batman or Spiderman because it's just so street level and so earthly and so basic I want like God's fighting God sort of shit, you know and that's actually one of the things that I do. Uh

Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah.


Mhm.


I make skateboards like I said but I make them out of cut up comic book pages,


There we are.


like you collages on the bottoms of skateboards with real comic book pages and then I like steal it in acrylic varnish. They're a giant pain in the I don't have my deck in here, otherwise I'll show you their joint pain

Okay. Yeah. Right. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm, grandpa.


And


in


I


the


was


ass


like


to go


super hardened


Montreal.


paypal McKay or something at first. But no, that's actually way level.


he'll do like a late, like a thick ash layer of acrylic varnish. But they take me like three months to make and I've had people like, want me to make them one like, yeah, it's going to be expensive and it's gonna take a feeling on time.


You don't


have


then when I'm,


three.


when I'm done, I'm not gonna want to give it to you because it took me so long to make it. And actually the saddest thing, my last board, because I had a connection with a skate company in southern California,


I mean,


That was a one


I think, yeah.


board making shop. He like hand pressed the boards. His name was Sambo. He closed. Unfortunately, it's super sad, but I had a Sambo board, an old school deck with a kick tail, like super meat and I did all DC comics. Then I had like the first page of Sandman on it. It was just gorgeous. Two layers of lacquer and they stole it off my porch. Some, some, somebody stole it was like sticky still. It was not finished. Yeah.

Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Oh, damn, Yeah. Yeah.


Right.


Yeah. I haven't made another one because I have, I have a blank deck over here, but I haven't, I haven't had the heart to make another one yet because uh, asshole.


Become a brushing like a lot


I'm


of work.


sure that they like realized it was sticky and they couldn't do anything with it. They probably ended up like throwing it away. I don't know, pain in my ass.


No drinking bouts.


Yeah, Well I just won't varnish things in the front yard anymore. You figure like it doesn't seem like something that you would come and if like the, the standard was on was all covered in varnish, like messy and like that probably looks like it's wet or something crab. I don't know, people


be enough


and life


All


we are almost done. You're almost done. So tell me a story.


Um yeah, something horrible. Storyteller. Like I uh


now you don't give yourself enough credit.


no, no, I've definitely tried. Like it's bad. Mhm Yeah. Well, really the only story I've ever told was, you know, like cigarette the whole song. Yeah. Um like that was like my favorite story for the longest time. Like when I was a kid, I read like a ton of mythology and stuff. No, I might always stuck with me. But when I like, I remember with like the major plot points, but just actually telling the story, making it enjoyable. I kind of like I ruined the top of the story. So, but


it's a,


if


it's


you


just


want partners, I got you all the smart notes.


Mhm It's, it's storytelling is one of those things. I think that being told really good stories teaches you a lot about how good stories are told and like I think that would help me a lot was I read like my whole childhood, I read, I read like crazy and I still have a little library over here and I think that helps. And the biggest thing is density entity of your words, you know like, like how much can you like saying a whole lot without having the stay a whole lot, you know what I mean?


like knowing. Um, yeah, I know what you mean, right?