then about God, you know? And so I understand people who say, well I don't go to church, but I have a personal relationship with God and christ and I think I live in a small town, I live in town. I say small because it's small compared to where you are. But I live in a town of about 90,000 people.


Yeah, that's one, it's pretty small,


And um the transportation, the public transportation in this room for people with disabilities who are in wheelchairs really kind of sucks because there isn't, there is no transportation on sunday. So I have no in the church. Hello? Mm. The, the uh, I used to be like, oh well you have to go to church like a lot because it's important. But more I have felt the relationship with God is most important. You know what I mean? Uh, so I kind of agree with you in the fact that

yeah. Mhm, mhm, mm. Oh right, mm, Mhm, mm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yes.


What?


a lot of churches don't do a lot for promoting belief in God because they are, hey donate to the church, you know? And yeah.


exactly exactly,


Uh huh.


stuff like that donate to the church don't uh you know make sure you come and and they try to tell you there's some churches I guess, but you know, I guess more evangelicals and anything, but it seems to take over like aspects of your life at least end up like you know now I'm talking about like those Grand Stadium churches and it was


live


like I


there


forget the guy's name, but Joel Olstein, seven people


that


like


they


that.


have on tv and they,


Yeah right, you know, I mean that's the extreme and I think it's like the you know, norm, but still stuff


no.


like that, jeez how are you like a god fearing man and why? Yeah.


hmm. Yeah.


Oh my god.


In fact they did a survey I kid, you know, they did a survey of pastors a few years back. Pastor is not normal running the mail people. These are people who teach religion as their job. Like 70% of pastors didn't even believe in God. Oh,


come on.


and it's like, why are you? It's like being a doctor and saying you don't believe in pills. Like,


I don't believe in science, You don't believe in the right stuff, you're doing, works. Yeah, I got that, it's weird, they make money doing it, so I guess that's why they do it and


Yeah, but there are a few out there who still, you know, they're definitely God fearing people and you don't see them in the big tell of ice, uh,


you don't.


cathedrals, but they're out there. And uh, so yeah, that's kind of an interesting topic to uh, talk about for me because people have told me before that I have an excuse not to believe in God because of my disability and the difficulty of my life. But I think the very fact that I'm still here is an argument for God.


My but yeah.


um, well, I mean


What?


look at, I didn't mean to turn this whole conversation into a 25 minute sermon, but look at it. I I can't play sports, right? I love


I'm,


sports, I can't play sports. But God has given me an ability to place towards through video games. And I live in such a time that is good. A lot of people focus on the bag that happening in the world, but technology has increased so much that I have


No.


abilities and and chances now that


Then.


I wouldn't have if I were born in the sixties. You know what I mean?


Oh yeah, for sure if you


Follow.


were born a different time, who knows?


Yeah. And I'm not prepared to say that my the time I was born was left up to chance. You know, I don't I don't think so. So


Yeah. Right. Right, right. So I can


burn,


see that. Yeah, I think,


believe


you know,


it.


it's go ahead.


What do you do for work?


Um So I work as uh work for a public defender's office, like in legal aid. Um Not as a lawyer though, I'm an investigator, it's called. So I worked primarily with criminal events. So a lot of it is like going to getting like


paul.


evidence, video or trying to talk to witnesses. Um You know, then bringing it to the attorney on


Well,


the case and try and figure out like if it goes to trial, well we testify about this or that we're just sometimes getting information to see how bad the cases in terms of like hey what are we going to do or like sometimes


Well


just to try to get the prosecutor like you know to take a plea deal depending on the circumstance. You know it's it's to me it's really important work and you know um


that


work working.


is really cool. That is very cool. In fact, um you're gonna laugh. But one of the people I talked to in this study was a prosecuting attorney in New Jersey. Mhm.


It's like yeah.


Well, so I've talked to a prosecuting attorney and I've done to a public


Right. But are you practicing in Manhattan?


what?


Were they in new


york? Were they practicing in new york?


they were in New Jersey. Oh.


All right.


But


But I don't see it on the but still. Yeah.


our like ridiculous.


Yeah. I feel like I don't know what they were saying. I feel like it defends like my people that I'm sure they were fine, sure they were


Well yeah,


you


that's


know.


when the uh yeah, it's been a real pleasure talking on this study because admit people literally from around the country and everybody has been really different. I only had one experience that was less than pleasant. It um


yeah


on this chat, so it's been fun.


good.


Well


Um Yeah I can't imagine what less than pleasant will be just like, like a bad conversation, I guess. That's the only thing I can think of.


well he didn't he didn't ask any questions, like he didn't really say anything unless you were asking questions and he wasn't involved in the conversation directly and all that stuff. It was just I found myself looking at the clock a lot during it.


Just trying to get through


it. Yeah, it


So


could be like that. I mean the first person I matched what they were fine. Maybe because it was my first time as well. I felt like just, I don't know what we're supposed to be doing, but I don't know. That was definitely like the hardest conversation. The first one, just like, you know, I was like, there's no script, there's no like questions like what are you talking? Uh Now this is the third ones with the little like, you know, just


doing it a couple of times. Like All right, little easier.


you said


Like,


third for you. Yeah, good


My third


look.


actual


And your other


by four.


three.


Sorry.


Cool. I said, well good luck in your other three. And uh


thank you. For what?


oh definitely, you know, take advantage of it and enjoy it because you can meet some very interesting people I know I have and I would count you as a very interesting person and


Oh, thanks you as well.


I, I enjoyed talking to you. Um, my last name is smith. If you want to look me up on facebook, you'll see a picture of me if you want to stay in contact.


Oh, cool. All right. Yeah.


Let me know what you think of the, let me know what you think of the simulator, the flight simulator and all that jazz.


Yeah. Yeah. I will


So


check it out and interesting. I didn't know so advanced to that point. Even the mad and stuff too like for MLB at all at school. It's interesting stuff. Yeah.


I think we did it, my friend. What?


That is right. Well you did it, you're finished now so with the Euro six. Right, So I hope it was cool. I know you enjoyed it you said so. That's cool.


You made good for a last one,


I appreciate that. Thank you would be good


so


for a middle point I guess. That's the


thank


one.


you. Thank you. Well, hey dan, I'll talk to you later.


All right. Take care


You


the medium.


Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Oh mm. Okay. All right. Yeah.


Hello.


Hello how are you?


I'm doing all right thank you


Thank


how


you.


are you?


I'm fine I'm fine. Anything new and exciting today for you?


Uh Not too


Not


much.


too much


This has been a big highlighter


thank


thing.


I've been working for it in my day. How about you?


nothing just dreary and rainy. So this is actually my seventh time doing this so wow.


I've lost count of how many I did them a while back but then I started having some technical issues and then kind of reset


process


with this one. This is my first one of this uh session.


and this this is going to say this group that they do. How long have you been doing things prolific?


I think about two years now. Mhm.


wow. It's a long time. I've only been doing it for. Probably about seven months.


Yeah it's good. Especially with the little plug and they've now made. That's really helpful. Yeah.


Yeah I I'm not usually I'm more on my phone than my laptop but when I'm doing work and I have that up there and it's created like you know it's impossible


but.


to miss a study. Mhm.


Uh


Oh


Have you used any website? Use the website user testing?


No no I haven't heard of it.


That one is pretty good. It's basically a site where you get little notifications it just goes ding and it has little screener and they're never more than like 15 questions and they're really quick. It's I


No that's not bad.


hate the surveys where you know you spend 20 minutes answering questions. It's like sorry you didn't qualify the


Yeah that's what I'm just gonna say it was because I do um survey john key on occasion and literally you're getting like literally to the end after like 1920


wait


minutes for a dollar and they're like, oh


you


sorry,


know?


answer the last question wrong. Here's your three cents a later by and you're like, come on. Yeah.


thankfully this one doesn't do that. If the screen of questions are super quick and if you qualify and accept that you then usually do like a little 15 minute thing where if


Bird.


you if you enjoy your good at talking out loud, it's really good because you're showing a website or some software and you basically follow steps and they ask you okay, you're going to look at this website, please speak out loud and find a basketball and put it in your cart and then you go, okay, I'm on the website, I'm going to click this little icon that is the magnifying glass and type in the word basketball.


correct,


Oh, I expected it to get rid of the words search but I had to delete it myself. That's


That's


counterintuitive and you just do that and, and at the end of the video you get paid $10 it's always a $10.


It's now do they come up frequently or is it last? Mhm.


it kind of ranges. I'll sometimes get like eight or nine little dings a day but I may not qualify for them, but it only takes like a total of


Well


doing the screeners for all of those maybe five minutes because it gives immediate feedback whether or not you qualify. And some weeks all have, I'll get like four or five in a week and then I'll have a dry spell for a few weeks and then but it's always a bare minimum of $10. And then you can also take little screeners for um live interviews, kind of like what we're doing now but with some sort of representative of your company and those are 30 minutes and 60 minutes apiece and those pay $30.60 dollars respectively.

Oh, uh huh, wow. Mhm, mm hmm. Right. Yeah. Uh huh Mhm mhm mhm. Really?


No, what do they do?


Uh It really all depends. As long as you like tell the truth on the screener questions, it can be something like what banking


but


companies have you worked? Do you have an account with? And so for example, Wells Fargo. And then that was when I did and I basically spent 30 minutes talking with a representative about my experience using Wells Fargo and then saying, okay, have you had any customer support issues that were resolved? Really well? Did you have any customer support issues that you found frustrating? And so basically the 30 minutes, 60 minute ones are just going back and forth talking with an individual. Sometimes it's just questions. Uh

right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Mhm. Mhm Right. Yeah,


I'm


sometimes


not.


it's like okay we want you to try this app and in real time describe how you think it's gonna work,


No.


described if it will make sense


but what's the name? What's the name is uh site? So


uh user testing


users don't say, just let me book market


and make sure you click the part where


book


it's the be a shoot, what's the word? It's not participant.


properties.


But when you go on their website, they're the main thing of their website is, you know, you can get feedback but then you need to find the needle, tiny cabin one of the corners that has become a tester and you click on that to create


The workers.


an account and they do


Thank


the first,


you.


the very first one


Request


is,


trial that one.


let me see uh user testing uh


Oh.


checking right now florida. Here we go. Uh no,


all right.


it's sorry, not in the corner. Get


What?


paid to test. It's right next


Thanks.


to resources on the top of the, so it goes platform solutions,


allowing


customers,


rescuers


partner resources


get


get paid


paid to


to


test


they said. Yeah, looks


and


like


that's the one where you will


Oh, all right. I'll book, yeah.


I found it really good. I've made a lot of extra spending money that way. So,


The book.


so what do you do for fun when


What?


you're not, you know,


When?


prolific ng


I'm not prolific ng uh


well,


Well, I've got five kids, so I'm pretty busy with them. They range in age from 16 to 1, so right now my oldest just got his permit


what,


to drive,


come on.


so that's horrifying. That's terrifying to me.


I


Um But other I retired from the military in 2016.


but


Well, I'm


well thank you for your service


thank you. So, I've just been hanging out.


I mean, obviously I've become a teacher now because of Covid, so that's wonderful. Uh Thanks to all the homeschooling we have to do, wow. It's really I mean, I like


Well


I got two dogs, a cat like soccer. Big family used to play hockey. Uh actually just had surgery


What?


on my ankle not that long ago, so hoping to get back into that. Um It's really yeah,


No,


I like playing video games waiting to get the new Xbox. Oh


What video games do you play


uh for first person shooters and like um real time strategy. They also do a game called War Thunder. She's really a vehicle,


as


World War two


the,


multi player thing.


that's the tank one, right.


there's there's three different, there's tanks, planes and then their ships, but nobody really plays ships because it takes forever to to


I like


destroy


to talk


or some close to each other to shoot at anyone,


uh let's see.


everybody


I, I also do


else


video


in the meaning


games,


of being


I'm


inside.


more of the single player


But


person


first


since I have absolutely no skill at anything competitive,


I


so


enjoy like I enjoy like for example like the Elder scrolls series, huge fan of them actually I just started playing Kingdom Come deliverance which is um all like basic basically it's like the elder scrolls only, you're like a peasant in the 14 hundreds and like Romania. And like


like the super grounded. Right.


it's super cool because like like you know like an older scrolls, like, okay, you can pick up a sword, you can really start running around killing people and stuff like that. This like he doesn't know anything because he's a blacksmith's son, so he's clueless. You can't, you pick up books, you can't read them, they're all in gibberish because he doesn't have to read. So you have to find some guy like a priest, him to teach you how to read. Then you can read um like riding a horse, you have to have somebody to teach at sword fighting, you have to learn all those things. Eventually then you become like a bad,


no.


you can actually take care of yourself, but otherwise you're walking down the street, like you're going to get the crap kicked out of you by mercenaries in the woods.


sounds fun. I


learned about


learned the


that


best.


game with a Youtube channel that I watched called Outside Extra. They're just kind of a british


The press.


game review company and they were doing a little bit on Kingdom Come deliverance and every week they would have some sort of quiz where one person would quiz the other and for Kingdom Come deliverance, they did to choose your own adventure, where one of the hosts wrote a choose your own adventure stories set in Kingdom Come deliverance and read it to the other one. And she had to choose like do you want to do this or do you want to do this? And like every third choice that she made? Uh


You're dead.


Yeah, it was like you have died of dysentery.


Yeah. That's the thing is like you pick up, you know, you used to picking up food and just having it in your inventory for the entire length of the game literally if you pick up bread, it's good for like four days and if you eat it then you guys going to get sick then you have to see a doctor big money and it's like impossible to get money it because it's the 14th century and nobody has money. So I run around and I steal a lot from the church. I literally love everything I possibly can while people are sleeping. And then I go


simulated


to


lightning is going to come down and just


yeah, that's where all the money is though. It's realistic. The church has all the money and many old I go in there said like same weapons to I go up in the towers. I steal all the like armor from the nights and I'm going to a different town and sell it.


I've I also for fun run a dungeons and dragons game and a lot of my players are like grew up on things like Skyrim elder scrolls and so that whole loot everything mentality is something that they're trying to unlearn because the whole thing


The


with


biggest


D and D. Is all your actions have consequences. Wait. So they burned down the town and like you can't do that and they were like you know what the elder scrolls, it's fine, we pay off the garden or kill them and they forget. No


everybody comes back to life in three days.


it's going to work like that in dND


That's funny. I actually have a comic book shop that there's uh like dungeons and Dragon um tournament and uh there's something else they have in the name of it. They have magic obviously but then there's like another card type game. I forget the name that they advertise fairly heavily so


Uh Pokemon magic.


that stuff


You yoed those are the three ones I know of.


you know there's there's another it's similar in in the dungeons and dragons vein.


Oh boulder skate.


No no and it's not the it's not Warhammer or


Well.


the other one in space. I forgot the name of that one. Bye.


yeah. Warhammer 40 K. That's a big one. Um hearthstone I think is digital only. I'm not sure. I I my my nerdiness extends to dungeons and dragons.


that's


What?


a good one. I mean I read all the books


when I was college so I


Thank


hit him pronounce


you.


his name. The Dark elf for its P. R. I. T. T. I don't know how you pronounce


I regret


it.


something like that.


I used to read all of I forget Rh salvatore I think what's the name anymore


I'm


or


not sure. I haven't


obligations?


actually read any of the like books, the narrative stories. I have the actually right here


But


I have the handbook that I read through all the time


go


but I haven't read any of the actual stories set


in the universe.


Universal you know do you have like the like dungeons master like comb?


Yeah. Yes. The guide. Yeah.


that's cool. It's actually it's my uh I mean I


I


remember


think.


I'm older than you but grow in the 19 eighties. They had a dungeons and dragons comic. They're not like like a like a cartoon and had the dungeon master in it and it was like a beholder and all this stuff and everything like that. And so I was able to find the DVD set. Let my kids watch it now. Like my my


What?


younger ones my nine year old boy seven year old they're like oh this isn't a dragon snow there's the orcs and the beholders and the gelatinous cube


Tms. But


so


I had I haven't seen the cartoon, it's on my to watch list but actually


it's horrible, it's absolutely horrible, it's the


which


worst,


is why it looks, I've seen memes of it in the internet sphere of like hey episode one. They're beginning adventurers who do you think they're going to fight Colborne Goblins? No team at god of death and destruction?


that's literally the first episode there it is t event


coming, they've got their magic shield,


And this


I think there was there was a shield um some sort of stick, I don't even know what you would use like like the thing you used to jump with, I don't even know what the purpose of it is. You got a source er that can't do anything right? Oh and then you've got a barbarian who's like some six year old child so


That


it


sounds like the average dND party, so kudos for the accuracy.


yeah but there's a lot of girls in it


Actually the D. And D game I run is three girls. Two I think two boys uh I got my friend playing and then she invited her sister and then one of her other sisters heard and also wanted to join. So it's


bad


three sisters co worker and two co workers.


now. Yeah, I mean women were never interested in legends of dragons when I was growing up, like Unheard of, I mean it was the same thing with video games, oh there was you know you're talking, I mean but the first video


And


games I had was the Atari 2600. Then I had the second master system. Then I had the NEs I had jaguar. Um Never had the Neo Geo. I avoided genesis that have super Nintendo. Playstation, Playstation two. Then I got an Xbox 3 61 waiting for the new one to come out. Um And there's another one. I feel like floating around in there. The virtual boy. That's stupid. Yeah.


yeah.


I wear contacts because I'm just kidding but I do wear contact. Um


Yeah.


So no, I really am talking about like the jaguar. Like that system sucks like for as much as like people like God like yeah alien versus predator. And so I know that was


What?


horrible cartographic 16 was pretty cool. Uh


I think my parents were pretty staunchly against video games for a while so so my first console console I think was the we Okay.


so I did have the way. Yeah.


Which?


So you didn't have any games that weren't Nintendo. They were all first party. So it was like


Right. No I did that though, I did get a game


collecting


boy because


more.


that was great for car rides, but


Believe.


actually when I was at home it was outside or reading or something, I wish I had discovered dungeons and dragons sooner because that's I do that more than video games now.


Yeah, I mean really? I mean really every single video games originated out of dungeons and dragons and elder scrolls universe came from, I mean boulders gate. Like I remember playing that front Playstation.


It's funny actually uh with the dungeons and dragons cartoon like I said I haven't seen it but it's become such a meme and the dND spheres that I ran a Halloween one shot for all my players and we all dressed up and I actually bought the dungeon master costume from the


I


dungeons and dragons cartoons, like the bald cap at the hair


am saying that the ball cap of the right here in the robes.


look like a complete idiot. And it went from uh


What


it was a dark gothic horror inspired by Edgar Allan Poe. So


Bella Who?


every, every room is like a reference to a different post story and it's dark and creepy and it's about how the necromancers wife died and he's now trying to summon her back by using the body parts of the servants he killed. It's supposed to be this dark creepy thing and


And here you are dressed up like a balding dwarf.


and in about 10 minutes it stopped being dark and creepy. It was it started off horror and ended Scooby doo. It was


That's funny. That's awesome. Uh huh.


there was the hull. They were in one room with a bust of the raving queen and they kept hearing a tapping noise which was supposed to be referenced to the raven. You know, tap tap tap, they were convinced it was a clue that they just couldn't figure out. So they ultimately resorted to flirting with the statue of the raving queen to see if they could reduce the information and I'm just going, I'm supposed to be staring at mysterious and they were


Like,


painting


so how


on


are


the long,


you doing? That's


it's like,


funny.


oh I love it, it's absolute chaos. But the rogue who is you have this dark edgy, you know in the game he we've been having private conversations, he's planning on trying to kill the entire party at some point, which I'm really excited for. Uh but in the one shot there were all these paintings along the wall with like horrific imagery. Each one of them


What?


also references to post stories like Hop Frog with people being burned alive or looking at the judges from the pendulum and he walked over to the painting and when I describe, because I have on my note, he starts going full art critic on, oh, I see what this represents. The gesture is the lowly individual and the king he represents the 1%


but


and how the burning flames of capitalism. And


that's awesome.


it


Too


did that


deep.


for


Too deep.


every painting. He did that.


That's funny. I give it to him. Maybe I


I loved it. It was absolutely


responsible


hilarious. And the barbarian


what?


came and she was like, what R. And I had to


Thanks.


make a saving throw and


Probably.


she didn't really lined up. So I was like, no, you take one point of psychic damage because you don't understand the art well enough. Lots of angry messages after I'm going to kill you for that one. Though, it's not funny.


Good.


It was so curious


So now how often you guys meet like what's the


normally


get


weekly and when things are going well. I'm also


also


in school as a screenwriter and recently class has been really hectic. I just wrote a 44 page spec script that I have to trim down another 10 pages. And so it's been kind of, we've only met


beauty.


two weeks


Why now, why would they want it to be shorter?


because a spec script is basically where?


Not that I need nothing about screenwriting off.


don't worry, I don't know all that much either. Um basically a spec script isn't an original,


All


it's based on a pre existing source material, so take like parts and recreation or Duck Tales or it's basically what you write to kind of pick yourself to companies and say, ok, here's proof that I could be a writer for this show. I can write in the style and the voice. And so part of the aspect of writing a spec script is researching actual official script and seeing how many pages they are. And


So what


so


do you do like basically? Right. Like your own original episode in


No,


that vein?


yes, you basically write an episode for a show that's currently airing and then


that's a way for people to go, oh, okay. He can write, he can understand that, he may have an original voice, but he can also emulate a pre existing series of characters because you don't want, even if someone's a great writer, if they only can write in their own style then they're not going to work on in the writer's room. So a spec script is basically a script of a show that you didn't create and so I've been writing for Duck Tales, but the problem is the average duck Tales script is about 33 pages


much


and minus


duck tales. New duck tales are old duck tales.


your dad tells


Okay, so you've got the cool lily


yes, and the problem is an average Duck Tales is like 30 somewhat pages, but a my script is 44 so I need to get it down to the right size just to actually meet the criteria.


we should do is research the guy that voices scrooge Mcduck. You actually yeah actually portray he's actually he's got it and he actually portrays a really good detective in the BBC drama or Broadchurch.


Oh cool, I I haven't seen Broadchurch,


Haven't seen


I'm a big fan of Doctor Who, so


Yeah so you know them from Yeah but


and


I was watching Broadchurch and I'm like she was like scrooge Mcduck and so I'm like I go on Wikipedia and I'm like fuck he is doc that's something that's all that's all that mystery and I love how how they've done everything with you. You dewey and Louie


that they're the best,


Uh Not that cool, I'm not that happy with Abigail.


how come


Uh They made her too. I I don't mind that she's a badass. I just don't like the overly like obsessive compulsive stalker aspect they gave her


they


because


do tone that down in later seasons, so


because well that's just because she is living with them now, but like there in that first like two and until their mom came back from the moon, it was like, it was like everything was a go claim, the fact that I'm like, your grandmother has been working with Scrooge for like ever. It shouldn't be that big mystery. So I'm like, I I I thought that took away from her being like the little miniature, like bad ass, you know, Mrs B Klay, super ninja granddaughter. So


I didn't actually see the original,


for me it


which I realize is


looks


like a huge


like


deficit since the new one.


yeah, no, completely different because I mean whether he's just, she's like a five year old girl, like she likes her dolly and she more fixes things in the show by falling into it accidentally by picking up a massive diamond that they need to give to a Yeti later on because she thinks it's a shiny rock, not because she's aware that oh this is magical powers and I had to go through 15 million tracks to get it. You know this is how we're going to defeat Magica dispel now, so launchpads

Yeah Oh uh huh Right Yeah, mm Launchpads.


Amazing.


amazing.


Love orange pad.


Uh Let's see, they made launchpad too stupid.


That was stupid in the original


He he was more um he he was more just mhm prone, he was just more accident prone. What


last


this guy like this is like this guy's brain damaged almost, like


But


there's no reason for him to be operating a plane. And the original, he comes from a family of pilots and his little probably he just can't land. That's the only thing you can never figure out, he could fly anything that's and that's why scrooge hired him. It's just he just can't land and that's it's saying we're in this one, it's it's like you had a lobotomy and you're like oh come on, there's no. And then with Gyro they made him like the mad scientists and he's completely not in the original, the original, he's more the like backyard kooky inventor


the


who


Bill, Nye,


Right Exactly, instead of this one, they have them like being like an evil Bill Gates almost.


they did uh they did flesh out Gyro a little bit in one of the episodes that was like an entire homage to Astro Boy, which was kind of hilarious.


Yeah. Yeah. What's his name is pretty much the same. Um jesus, what's his name is Murdoch I guess my Doctor tells me that he's still that um Let's see what else. There was uh magic and spells pretty much the same. Actually. Magica Dispel is really more faithful in this series to


What?


the old Banks complex then the one in the eighties. So that's because I actually own all the there isn't the scrooge comics from like


that's awesome.


so you can see I'm like I guess you could say I'm a duck tales like nerd. But um like the comics back in the thirties and forties like they were


quick


like hyper realistic. There wasn't any like like the eighties version where it was all cartoon and everything like that. It was much more like you know scrooges in the Klondike and like he


just


tries to kill people that are trying to get onto his claim and stuff like that. He has he has no problem like the way he like treats Goldie in the new Con and the new series is exactly the way he treated her in the original comic and the


They


same thing. All the gland mcduck stuff like with the castle his parents like basically being like you're annoying go you don't work hard. That's all that. It's on the original


all


Economics.


that's cool. I learned during my research for the episode because I actually, I did more than just like watched the whole series, but I learned that in one of the scrooge Mcduck comics, I can't remember which one I think was scrooge Mcduck in the seven Cities of Cibola. Or that was at least the adventure, the Beagle Boys set off a booby trap that causes a giant rolling boulder to trace after them and break through a wall. And steven. Spielberg cited that Duck tales comic as the inspiration for the scene in indiana jones with the giant rolling boulder.


Yeah. Well you can see a lot I mean almost all not obviously there are other adventure thing is going on four years and everything like that but a lot of like what he put in indiana jones and then that thing was really written you know she slept that was early eight. So you're talking really 40 years before that? That's


there's the


great.


whole serialized adventure genre which I


and


think


it


researchers.


was like for a Disney for it being like a comic. It was talking ducks and everything like that. Like they put a lot of thought into it. Like scrooges sister is Donald's mom and you see her in flashbacks growing up and then you see like you know there is that whole lineage where you can see the hole where the whole family works out. It's not just like we need a we need a long lost cousin. So we're gonna throw somebody out here like no gander duck. You figure out how he's related to everybody else. This


I go ahead.


Right. I just say it's just insane how they so many must have sat there with this huge wall and like had threads interconnecting every single but to make them all


I love the kind


the


of


kind


combination


of combination


of grounded


of grounding


reality


with


like the show


show


you know


this person is related to this person, this person is related to this person and it's all hyper realistic. It has to all make sense in track. And then they'll have something where they're like uh you know use a snake as a grappling hook or something.


back. Right. Well that's how they break it. They're like they're like well why don't we just have like Huey do something really stupid right now and have like a pep conversation about the drink and then we'll get out of us or it'll be like oh look who, who left the you know magical ambulance out now. So it got stolen. So now we have to go into that realm like all


Have you?


That adventure like it just becomes like that how they have that normalization of the supernatural and just the absurdity that they get into. That's really like it it's it's just hysterical. I mean especially if it meant for Children but like the sophistication they write it, it makes it so much better.


that was the thing when I was pitching basically the show for my class where we had to find a comedy to write for and I said I want to do duck tales. And my teacher kind of gave me this look because everyone is like, oh I want to write for Shits Creek, I want to write what we do in the shadows, I want to write for Dave, just all these more adults, not refined, but and I go dick tail, I'll be like, okay, I'll watch a couple episodes and he writes when I was like that, it was way more complex and you know, not mature, but that the jokes are more highbrow than just cartoony, cartoony, which is why I love it so much.


Yeah. I mean another one that would be good if you ever watched jerry watch Venture Brothers.


I have not,


Oh you got to watch Friend Her brother's because all that basically is is a darker version of johnny quest.


I never actually watched johnny quest either.


Johnny quest is basically like there's the inventor father with his bodyguard and his kid who gets into various misadventures across


That's


the


good.


world. But in Venture Brothers that's a failure. His father who died was the one who, he's just been basically living off his patents and his name saying nothing. He does work that well. He's a single father. His kids suck. They actually died so many times and adventures where he has like stacks of them cloned. So when they die, like they explain it later on, he, he's like, you're just going to die anyway and then I'm going to have to use another color. You guys don't even know what's going on at the point. They're like, what do you mean dad were dead? And then like something like caves in on them and they died. He's like, say now I need more clones off I go, come on. It's


Is


just


that the one that has the line, because I, a significant portion of my pop culture understanding relates to memes I say on the internet now, but is that the one that has the line? You know, you should be digging through the dumpster for bacon scraps, you two piece chicken mcnugget buddy, or is that a different


no


show?


different show. I mean a good, I don't know, I've never heard of that before though. But there's brock who's like this like, like just a former like CIA as fast and and he just, he just like goes crazy and kills people like throat out and stuff like that. It was an adult swim thing. It was, I mean that was when adult swim was like first starting was Venture Brothers. Um What aqua teen hunger force, which was awesome because that was based in New Jersey where I lived. So


Of course.


it's literally a milkshake french fries and a meatball that live in Southern Jersey and talk to their neighbor who's in the hookers and trippers and stuff like that. Random


What?


things happen to them like moon nights, these things from the moon come down and try to take over the world even though they look like the little uh space invader, like big characters.


That's awesome. Have you seen Phineas and Ferb to me? Like the three animated were Phineas and Ferb Duck tales and the it only lasts like two seasons, but the spiritual successor to Phineas and Ferb, which was Milo Murphy's Law, because all of those basically of the monopoly for kids shows that have really clever writing and I would love


venison


that.


for but have milo. I vaguely heard of it. Um I probably saw advertisements for it, you know, following it. I never watched it.


Second season is uh first season is fantastic, it's made by the creators of Phineas and Ferb and the main character is voiced by Weird Al Yankovic. So that alone had me sold


That's funny.


episodes and it's all about this kid who is the great great great great great great grandson of the Murphy, from Murphy's Law, anything that can go wrong, will and all Murphy's Children are cursed so that any time they try to partake in any activity, something goes wrong. And so


let's win it.


it's him trying to just navigate a daily basis with everything going horrible. But he has the most upbeat chipper attitude is like a backpack. That's basically the Tartus that has all sorts of random things. So no matter what goes wrong, he will always just like reach into his backpack, pull out a bicycle helmet, put that on. It is ridiculous.


It's


But also really funny


it's the uh what the woodchuck guidebook essentially


basically the woodchuck guidebook where he just knows like they're on the subway and the subway suddenly breaks off and his two friends are going, oh my gosh, we're all going to tell you, He just calmly reaches into his backpack, calls out a seatbelt and seatbelts himself to the metal poets. Like always wear your seat belt. Like I noted your back back


that's


in case this happened.


Why did


been,


you think this was going to happen for logically speaking? It was a significant choice chance.


we'll


So


just say it hasn't, that was like a ductile signal like well this hasn't come up in a while, we were what we would do so I figured why not?


I love the duck tales bit where launchpad has his own side story that they never show throughout the entire episode and that's happened at least I think three times where like script and the kids will go to like explore the casino or something and lunch probably like, oh I gotta go talk to a friend and then he leaves and when they get back to the plane after the entire plot has happened, they see the launch pad like


From?


drenched in sweat with arrows sticking out of his backpack and like a samurai helmet on. he's like, oh yeah,


it's


I


been


just hang I'll always remember you Angelina, Let's go, guys, what


the


happened?


group


No explain that. I know we're never explaining this ever.


That's funny. No it's I actually remember that when I think that was someone where uh Gander was being stuck in some casino for his luck, yep.


that good one. There was a recent


Also


one that I have to recommend because for no other reason because it had a multiple diehard references, which is just not what you think of when you think of Disney shows,


which


but


one is that?


that was season three, where um where it's when Donald meets what's her name? Uh daisy because Huey and Louie crash apart. Oh, it's called Louise 11 or something like that. It definitely


yes yes yes yes, yep I


because


see that


you have the bad guy going at the beginning when he left, Donna didn't welcome to the party pal


you know


and I was like, oh was that a diehard reference that they sneak that in and then Donald jumps out at the end of the episode and attacks the Big falcon. Like hey mr falcon, okay, now they know what they're doing?


uh but that's exactly what I'm talking about, I'm like how they wrote that like like like why is this like a Y seven thing? Like they could have turned this definitely into like something much more mature.


Uh huh I kind of love the fact that it is why seven? Because then you don't expect,


Car.


because with the mature show you're like, oh they reference Die Hard, but if you're watching kids show you don't think they're going to like, make a reference to indiana jones or something like that. In one of the


You


episodes,


know what?


they find the Fountain of Youth and get stopped by john d rocker duck. He's like ah scrooge Mcduck. You now see there is nothing that you possess that I cannot take away.


And they're like, oh, there it is.


Oh, I love that so much.


Well this is like glum goal. I mean Global was awesome in this series where he was just a foiled scrooge and the original one, which was just like whatever, like this one, he's not even Scottish, he's south african. It goes into like the whole, you just were opened and the beard just look that way.


it's such a great show. I hope I get like 87 more seasons.


Like when I thought they came out with a new, because it's not like they announced it all of a sudden my, my DVR started recording them again. I got new season wash, like shut the knuckles,


I I am like two episodes behind on


the plant


the season right now and every time I watch an episode I have


But


like


I completed


mini heart


many


attack


forces


because I'm


from


always terrified


voices.


because I finished my script and I need to cut it down. But I'm always concerned. Like every time I watch an episode they're somehow going to like have taken what not taken, but you know, come up with the same idea and I'm gonna have to scrap everything and be like, oh no, I have to redo everything


now


now.


what? You have to do that though? If,


Hi, I don't know.


I mean, I assume you've sent submitted, obviously you think you have to get it down, you submitted versions of it. So since you're using a current series, if that can't be like, oh, obviously I was going down the right path because they


Probably, I feel kind of badly doing one of my other classmates was writing for the Tv show mom and she was writing the new season opener and then the new season opener came out and went in a completely different direction. So she rewrote her whole script and I was wildly addressed.


No, no. Why didn't you just keep it that work? They just keep it that way. Let's go This be like, yeah, this is the story. I'm going to go, I'll go this way. You can tell the series actually what


I wasn't, I was very impressed because


projects


I don't think


are


I could


against.


have done that. I would have been like data that this is an alternate universes.


Yeah, that's what I mean. I would have been like, man, I'm sticking with this. I'm like, that that's nice to show it that way, but I'm not going to redo my whole semester's worth of work.


Did you see the episode of Duck tales where it was like a simultaneous parody, in homage to the old Disney afternoons? Where they were the


Yes, yes. Where they were the quack pack and they were like hyper colour. They're like, why does everybody sound weird? Like, what's going on with this? And


Why, where's that laughing coming


that's the problem.


from?


Right? Well, why why I'm there like the walls are falling down and everything like that. Who's like


When


that


most


if you


of all,


want if you have Disney Plus and you watch like although it's horrible because they had because they have the entire series of so that KLAc pack that you know here we're doing louis you're like 14. It's the worst thing ever. Like it actually just intro makes your eyes want to bleed, it's horrible. But I think we are up my friend.


that this was really


No,


fun. I enjoyed this


it was awesome. I I enjoyed talking about, you know, it's very rarely I read in somebody who has an offended duck culture. Mm


way. That sales, Whoa.


All


And


right, take care. Good


thank


luck with.


you. I don't know if you've seen it, but just since the last subject of Duck tales, I promise at best, there's actually


Actually,


online is there's one episode that the cast of Duck Tales of the live table read in Disney at one point, so it's just them reading the script from one of the episodes, but live in front of an audience and kind of messy each other. So that's really fun because they got David Tennant, they got uh Huey dewey and Louie, it was the one where they were doing a birthday party for scrooge and louis had like the daft punk helmet and the little


Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.


car


Yes. Yes. Yes. You


and


know,


the


you


act.


know I really I really enjoyed was the the christmas episode where they're like don't bring it up, don't say anything there. Like he's like I love christmas, he's like I just wanna be left alone.


it's really like getting hammered with the ghosts of christmas,


He's like I got the ghost girl. He's like, they just showed up one night they got the wrong house man. I have to look up who the uh the grass hopper was. A little jiminy cricket because he sounded really familiar.


I would bet money. He is the guy who plays fix it Felix in the record ralph movies.


Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, that's exactly, that's exactly who he sounds like and I can't I can't remember. I remember I know he's not red hair and he just he plays like you know the bumbling redneck like friendly farmer type character and things. But yes, that's what I would, that's exactly who it is. You nailed


I


it


usually just call whenever I


when


hear,


I was


as long


your


as I'm


fault


like, oh it's effective Felix,


he doesn't


feeling.


have another


name, that's the same now


don't, I downloaded that stupid game on the fix It Felix and I was like, I'm like how did they not make sugar rock chat into a video game


and


then


all.


they made, they made record ralph to instead of Sugar rush mistakes were made,


Right. I'm like with the internet and cat me, and so I'm like, what is I'm


so


gonna have such a deep thing going here with Sugar Rush and King handy and all this stuff. I mean uh and then then with the like, there's so many card games out there, like really, you couldn't have thrown like vanilla people on sweets out there in the


thank you,


hard thing where I I want to play the money game where I make my own car and bake it like, come on.


She's so good. I Oh man, that movie hurt to watch, I love Disney. I worked at Disney and that movie hurts me, I cannot rewatch it.


I I love the first one. The second one, it was just like, I'm like, it's an advertisement for Ebay,


Basic. That was actually, that was the one funny part. They did end up paying like $15,000.


Yeah. $50,000 for the wheel. But it's just like, I'm like, it was such a thing like, because I remember going to do, because we go to Disney, like, probably like every 18 months


Oh cool. What this name, florida


florida.


or uh Oh cool.


Yeah. And uh we we've done the cruises and everything like that and like I had to hunt wreck it ralph down and they buried him in like some corner of Hollywood studios. So I was like, I'm like, I'm like, I went to like his movie just came out. How can they not like have him being around? And then I went to I wanted to buy the figures of all the races. Yeah, like $150 each. It's like insanely expensive. I don't know where they released them, but like if you go on amazon to try to like buy them or anything like that, like, or Ebay, you're looking at like minimum like $90.


dang! The one thing I found cool


The


on


court


Ebay is because I'm a massive


democracy.


Utopia fan, that's my favorite Disney movie. But now, because if I want them to make a sequel so badly, but if they make it like wreck it ralph two, I don't want them to make us equal. But


I mean, it's easy enough to do. I mean she's a bunny cop, you just have some terror come into the


you think so? But now they made record ralph to instead


Christie.


with ralph doing a smr and


No.


screaming goat videos. I


Right. I I'm like, what is going on here? And then there's like this random racing thing going on where like Penelope has some sort of like


midlife crisis.


exactly have some mid video game crisis of like what do I really want to do? And I'm like, oh


Your whole previous thing was


we're


how you


on


wanted to be a racer sugar rush.


You


That was your heart


had you had your midlife crisis that you are a princess and you wanted to be a racer, not that. And so you through that side now you don't get to go through the whole thing and say you want to be like, you know, some like twisted metal black racer instead of being like a Mario kart one


and the Disney princesses were so


this much


over


from


advertised


offer.


for how much they were in the movie.


Uh Well they always do that though with the here we're gonna make a big thing out of it now, It's like a six second spot and that's it.


I thought it was going to be like a significant portion of the movie. It was funny, I would have watched that, I would have preferred that.


Oh, and because I remember being like, oh, I get to see them like, you know, visually like, you know here you've got like Snow White brought up to speed with like everybody know it was just like go


but


off someone. I'm like, like, really,


it was disappointing. But on Ebay you can find for sale people who worked on the movie record ralph. Uh


All


Disney gave them crew member exclusive t shirts. And so occasionally people actually sell record ralph t shirts that aren't like, you know, store ones, but there's a super limited edition that have that have unique designs on them. And occasionally there even technically copyright infringement because Disney wouldn't sell them. They were just for


Right. Just manufacturing to give them away to the crew for yeah.


Yeah, the one I've been looking for for


What?


years ever since I learned existed


No,


was for frozen and it was for the effects crew. And on the back it has Olaf in an on an iron throne made of icicles


That would


and


be awesome. You're gonna pay out your nose for that.


I know and it says underneath winter


is rendering


That's awesome.


can't find anywhere.


That


But


ever comes up. It's gonna it's that'll cost I couldn't see that going for less than like the teams of thousands. Probably


who? I've gotten one Zootopia


like you with


one


your


and then I bid


hand.


on another and got outbid. But uh huh surprisingly not all the crews shirts go


It's


for that


not


much. Like I got one for my friend who loves marijuana for like 20 bucks. And it was an original uh this crew one


what?


that you can't get anywhere else. So it all depends on, you know how many people are looking. But if if you're a wreck it ralph fan prolific going Ding, Ding. If you're a big record ralph fan, that's something look at work is. It's such a cool, unique gift that I found for,


Nobody


you know?


do. Just type in cruz shirt. Yeah.


Uh Yeah, actually wreck it


Restaurant.


Ralph Crew uh is probably wreck it ralph cast.


Okay. I'll do that because that's you know that Because I love record ralph. I love I love that whole I mean the first one second.


You don't speak of the second one.


Yeah. I was just like, oh like that that you know what that was that was the direct to video record route.


there


Like why


are


did


Children.


you release that in the theater? Said you really, you didn't have something? You're gonna thrown in


That was a covid


coffee.


movie. That was one were like, oh


Right. Exactly. That was a throw that I'm like give that as the bonus on Disney plus instead of charging 29 99 for it and let's make everybody happy.


there have been direct to video Disney movies that were better than that


The


one.


second Aladdin was better than that one.


Thank you. I was literally going to say King of Thebes better and more dramatic and a better


Return


character.


of Jafar much better than wreck it ralph to. It


then we


was


heard


like it doesn't even have anything to do with anything. This


the


is


what?


like when they started their like oh look wifi it is. I'm like what the fuck his wife, I have to do with an arcade.


I hope why, I hope the arcade


Don't


doesn't use Wifi


bye.


because that kind of isn't how arcades work.


No not right. Exactly. I'm like no I'm like are they gambling now? I mean I don't get it. There's no reason for you know, you you go somewhere. If they if they have eight racers, you have eight machines lined up right next to each other.


12 3 ralph and Penelope. Go to a casino and caused


Know


tens


of thousands in credit card debt. I would watch that. Let me wreck it


No,


ralph.


No. That would be funny. But all right, I'll let you go,


Thank you. Great night. Thanks for being you.


let's get you to buy.


Oh, you might, yeah, Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh, mm. Uh huh. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Okay, mm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, I


Mhm. My audio on?


it is. Can you hear me?


Yes, loud and clear.


Well, I I can I can't see like the bottom half of your face, They're perfect.


Better awesome.


Mm


So I was just reading over the the instructions of what we need to do and it says we need to talk for 25 minutes. So I have a timer here, but I don't know what we're supposed to talk about.


I think that they're just trying to see what natural conversations look like. So um what's your name?


my name is Tracy.


I'm


What about


Rose.


nerds?


I'm Rose, nice to meet you.


Hi Rose awesome to meet you as well. So I guess like basic questions are, where are you located?


I meant


What state?


I'm in Seattle Washington, where you at?


Okay, I'm in Atlanta Georgia.


Okay. I have friends that are from Atlanta. I've never been there though.


So I actually just moved here recently um from Raleigh north Carolina. I don't know if you've heard of it, but um I moved here maybe about nine months ago, so I kind of was able to get out a little bit before all the craziness started, but I haven't really got to explore a lot of Atlanta. So looking forward to things going back to normal, I guess you could say so I can see, you know, I want to go to the aquarium. There is a lot of things that I want to do here.


Yeah. Um I've heard that's kind of a cool city. Um I've heard differently about the state in general, but I've heard the atlantic could be a cool place to visit


Atlanta is like a little island


paul.


in its, in its own, it's not anything like the rest of Georgia. Like I've seen some other places like savannah is really nice. It's just a different vibe though. Um Yeah, it's very different. I don't know how Atlanta got to be the way that it is, what it is. Very interesting.


It is, it's fascinating when, where there's money, there tends to be more diversity and more opportunity and more liberal thinking. But


It is very much so more that might be what it is. It might be a little more liberal and progressive than a lot of the rest of the state. Especially coming from Raleigh, which they're like trying to get progressive in eyes. It seems like Atlanta is like light years ahead of ahead of the game. Tell


That's good to


me


hear.


stuff about Seattle. I have never been, I don't know anybody from there,


Um You said you've never been to the west Coast. Um


California but not Seattle. Yeah.


Well I mean it's hard to say because I haven't spent any time like where you're at but I'm very biased towards thinking the west coast is the best.


Rest is the Vatican.


I mean it's just so beautiful here we have such a concentration of like tree canopy um and there's just so many like rivers and streams and the mountains and it's just a really beautiful place. Um.


I need to make my way out there. I see some art in the background that sounds exactly like what you're mentioning. Mhm.


yeah


That made me think exactly like okay did you paint that or something?


no that was a that was a buy on Ebay.


It looks really nice in it. Whatever you whatever you're just describing, what I'm looking at that and I'm thinking maybe this is what Seattle looks like.


It's pretty gorgeous. Um There's mount right near, it's one of the tallest mountains and the lower continental 48. It's just kind of crazy like looking out of out of it this huge peak out of nowhere and then there's the olympics and then the cascades and there's lots of hikes and the air quality isn't great in Seattle because you know it's an urban but it's a lot better than it is in a lot of other cities. Yeah. Uh huh.


Now that I haven't heard of it's like an echo, can you hear that?


um It might be it maybe it's the motor of my computer. Is that what you're hearing?


I thought I heard like myself, maybe it's just me


I'm


but


sorry.


um well it's okay I think there's no way for me to like I can't meet myself because you have to hear me talk and now it's gone. Okay so speaking of hiking so do you do you hike often there?


Uh Yeah we try to um I really like backpacking. Um No but I'm getting older so it's like I'm kind of getting to that point in my life where if I don't start doing it more it's gonna be too late. So


Or


we have this little bit of a sense of urgency to get


what?


back into it more but it's not easy.


no um actually the day before yesterday I went to, I don't know if you have ever heard of it, It's called Stone Mountain and it is just like a huge, it's kind of smooth too I guess they like resurfaced it, it's a huge mountain I guess some battles were fought there but I went hiking there the other day and I haven't been I haven't done any climbing or hiking in maybe two years. I did a lot more in north Carolina because we have all those great places to hike there. So I thought I would be ready. I like stretched, I have my water, I had snacks maybe like halfway through. I was like this and he's kicking my butt. I was like I have to get out here more often I guess. Like it's different than working out because I do I feel like I work out pretty often, but it's different than working out because you're like climbing up upwards instead of just like using your body to do like lift weights. And so I realized halfway through that I did not have on the right shoes because I don't, when I moved here I just got rid of a lot of stuff. I was like I need some like legit hiking shoes, I need some better socks. I was like this is not good. I was not, I thought I was set up, but I was not. We did make it to the top though and took a nice rest and eight and then on the way down and I was like okay, this should be a little bit easier and it was easier, like cardio wise, but you know coming down how your legs,


It's hard


you


on your


start


name


feeling


is.


it on your knees and your quads. So I think I'm going to try and go again next week and try and like make it a habit of going like two or three times a month.


wow, that's good.


So I think that would be interesting to check out when I do make it over there to Washington.


Yeah you would love it, but


That sounds


I know what I know what you're saying though. It's it's when your body does anything that's a little bit different.


Different.


It's just like, oh like if I were to swim right now, it just would not be good. Not that I've ever been a good swimmer, but just it's something that it's so hard for me to do because I didn't do it younger and so like when I get in a pool now, it's like I just struggle. Um but like any kind of different activity, I just, I don't know if I'm not


Business


used


chair.


to it. It's just there's this curve to where it takes a while for me to get used to it. Yeah.


maybe if you, did you get in a couple of times a few times a month or something, if it's something that you would be interested in doing the hiking, I'm gonna have to get back into it because I was like whoa it has been a couple of years so that maybe why it was so hard.


So why'd you move to Atlanta?


I actually got married,


Congratulations,


you know, thank


how's


you,


that going?


it's going really good. Really good. It was it was her idea to go. So I was like okay, I didn't want to get up that early to go that day, but I was like, okay, I need to do this, I need to do something different than just working out and it was great. But yeah, that's why I moved here,


Congratulations. That's awesome.


thanks.


Um Yeah, marriage, I have been married how long? 11 years, but we've been together over 20. And let me tell you, it's a lot of work.


Mhm. We're not even a full year in. Yeah,


lot of work.


it is, it is a lot of work, but I mean if you if you want to do it, which is, that's where we're at, like we want to do this, so it's been good so far, but


I think


we're still


as well.


compared to you also.


Well yeah just as long as you never never give up and keep working really hard every single day. Uh huh.


like if you're very different and like to do different things or, you know, maybe you're not used to living with someone all the time that's been that's been the newest adjustment is like waking up someone's there going to bed,


it's


someone's been here.


fresh. So


But


your wife already lived in Atlanta and so you moved from north Carolina so you must really love her to move? Uh huh.


And I wasn't, I wasn't really for quite some time to, I was there for like maybe eight years, about eight years. So I think it was, I had kind of outgrown it. It was, it was a good move though. It was a good decision. I do like it here. It's just like I said when I, when I got here, that's when things started like shutting down. Right. Yeah.


So now you're really getting to know each other because you're both stuck in the house together.


Right. And it's funny that you said that because um I'll keep getting these surveys asking about, you know what it's like being in quarantine with your partner and all this stuff and I'm like for the most part it's going really great, but they'll ask some really interesting questions like have


And


you


make


ever


you think,


wanted to like, have you ever wanted to commit like a crime against your partner? And I'm like, whoa,


Whoa, I haven't


some of them


seen


get


that one.


them. It's all on prolific.


So


It's


is


all


that


there.


is um prolific has been kind of a new thing to me since the I just kind of got on since the virus started, my sister does it for passive income and I was like


Isil.


oh my god I have to do something. Do you? So is this what you doing anything else to make money? Like are you both unemployed right now? Like what's your situation? Oh


So we have two small businesses. Um one of them is based around plant based eating and smoothies and we just deliver around the local Atlanta area and the other one is plant based like body butters and we sell sage and Paula santo and incense and things like that. So that's why that's what we are working on together. But of course, like, you know, times are crazy. So I had to find something. I had actually signed up for prolific maybe two years ago. Um I was on a, yeah, I don't know if you're on reddit. Okay. So I was on reddit in a subreddit called Beer money for years, like maybe six years. It's


just one


Their money


beer money has nothing to do with alcohol. It's just away


Side


ways


hustle.


to make extra money. Yeah. And I had been on there for years and someone posted on there about prolific. Excuse me. And I didn't really understand the concept. They were like, it's a platform where people come in and have studies and you do the studies. And I'm like, that doesn't sound like surveys like what I'm used to, I used to do all the little survey sites before, but what I find that's different about prolific this time around because I signed up a few years ago and didn't do anything with it because I didn't really understand how to do it and then I got back on it maybe six months ago, right around when um actually lost my job and then things started going like a little haywire and so I was like, maybe I should really pay attention is prolific thing and see what's happening because people keep posting their earnings and beer money. So that's why I came back to it and I've had really good, really, really good experience with it so far. Um What was different from the first time is that they have a way, there was like a little orientation when you first sign up. I don't know if you saw that. It showed you like how to fill out your about, about you section, how the studies work, all that. So I thought for some reason everybody could see that, but maybe it depends on when you signed up.


Uh huh. I'll look into that


Yeah. So how long have you been on if you don't mind me asking?


maybe three months. Three or four months. Yeah.


When we make sure that you filled out the about you section, Okay. And sometimes they ask you to update it because they'll have a couple of new questions and then I'll notice I'll get a bunch of influx of surveys when I do it that way. But I have found that I've made on average 50 to 75 a month extra. Mm hmm. Yeah,


Hello.


it's been


Outside.


going pretty


It's


well.


something. Okay.


you know, check out that beer money.


I will.


I've


Well


read it. And also, I don't know if you're just looking for extra stuff, but also work work online that subreddit, sometimes they have good stuff as well.


cool. So do you have other things that you do that you like to make extra income?


Outside of like surveys and studies. Not right now, I've actually been looking to see what else I could do. Um There are some things that I used to do, we're like kind of like um merchandising for stores and there's a whip. There's an app called survey merchandiser. If you just go through like your, I don't know if you have an android or iphone, but


Hi Tony.


so I think it would be in the Apple store, it's called serve a merchandiser. And um they have like these little jobs that you can do and they add up. So what I'll do is turn it into a route. So the other day I did them for um a like a pancake, this pancake company, they needed stickers coupons put on their boxes that are on the shelf. And I just, they mailed me the stickers for free. Just take the stickers to the store. I went as early as possible where it's going to be quiet and a lot of people. And then they asked me to take a picture of what the shelf looks like beforehand and then put the stickers on, take a picture of after, make sure it looks nice because they're basically like a third party worker for that particular product, that company. And so um I did like maybe five of those and they paid eight each, so that was 40 books. And then took me not even six days to get paid out for it. Now those do require you to go to the store, so I don't know how comfortable you feel with being outside of the house are going to a store, but right now I'm just like whatever little things that I can do, but I have a lot of things that I used to do in Raleigh that I'm like trying to fill them out with Covid right now um to try and make extra money outside of the house as well as inside. But do you have questions like I could give you a whole list? We still have like nine minutes.

Yeah. Mhm. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Yeah.


Yeah. I mean if you don't mind me taking notes while you're talking.


Not at all. Um Okay so make sure that you go to the beer money. So I read it like I said because they list out a whole bunch of stuff, the very first thing that you want to look at is um who paid? It's like it should be a pinned at the top of that separate. It will be like who paid me for the month. And so that's where I really started to kinda try to get strategic with how I was making the money because if other people are getting paid out of it that you know it's legit, right? So I started their prolific is something I do every single day. That's one thing. Let me get my little list out. I was also thinking maybe we don't know each other. But what do you think if I like came up with a site? I've seen these all the time but like a site that has all this stuff listed out and then show people how to use these different ways to make money. Is that something that would be interesting or you would like go and check every day or something or once a week?


Yeah. I mean I think so. I'm definitely I mean my life is changing so much right now that it's like I'm trying to just really learn about passive income in general. so yeah, I definitely think I would check out on site like that. Uh huh.


So prolific. For sure. Like has been bringing me in, like I said 50 to 75. So then there are these other sites that are there not surveys, but you have to fill out qualifying surveys to get into the studies. Have you done any of the, any of those?


No, I haven't.


Okay. So one is called respondent, R E. S P O N. D E N. T. And so on there. Um you just fill out surveys about yourself if you want to do a video chat like this and they pay way better. I just got paid for one last week for 100 and $15 for two hours.


Damn, that's


that


good.


one, it was, if you think about the math to do it, it's like maybe I took an hour to fill out like 50 qualifiers and then I got like two studies that paid me $300 to me. That's worth it. So it's, it's not a survey site, it's a site um for studies and then another one that's like that is called user interviews. That


So


one


how how much how much are you bringing in a month doing all all of this combined?


it depends. I'm tracking right now. So before I lost my job I was still doing little stuff on the side. I was making 300 because I have I'm a google sheets. I used to be into excel a lot and I'm a google sheets freak. So I started like 300 in december of nine last year. Now I have moved into 780 for may.


wow girl. Good for


Thank


you.


you. Thank you. I mean anybody can do it. This is not like, you know it's like surveys and studies. It's not how it's not testing your intelligence or anything like that.


There's no right or wrong way to do it.


No it's just a matter of having the patience and the time to put into this stuff. I'm trying to get to 1000 a month. Almost there. Um I think I need to just be charting out more of these qualifiers. So yes the next one was user interviews. Oh that


Mhm


one is very much like respondent, you just pick which everyone you might be interested in signing up for and go from there. And then let me see there is another one that's really good called validate lee


valid


it's


date.


validate. L. Y. That one they send you emails. There's no like platform to log into. Um You just well you sign up for it and then you'll get emails and they'll say you have to do the qualifier thing and then when you go from there, let me see. I actually, I've set a goal of $50 a month from them. I have not hit 50. Actually I have, I did. Um, so for three months in a row, $50


so how many hours do you put in a day doing this?


that I have not tracked that I haven't tracked. I really, I would like to um right now I just like whatever I have to do, I do it by the number goal. Like by the end of the day I need to have made a certain amount. You know what I mean? But I do need to start tracking the hours. That would probably be helpful. Also another good one. It's called user testing.


user testing.


Mm hmm. That one is a little different. That one is like how, how you interact with different sites. People just want people that make the sites like product managers and ux people, they want to know how you interact with the site and you have to talk and we'll do that. It's not always on video, it's usually just like they just want to hear your voice and you'll just go through the website and they do like a little training so that you can get a feel for it because sometimes it's weird like you're just talking out loud but they want to hear how you're walking through the website. You'll see when you go into the the subreddit people are making fairly good money with those top ones and then you know as you get more familiar on your downtime you just look and see what other people are making money on. But I've figure like that's the easy way to figure out how people are making extra money.


So it was beer money and then there was another Reddit site that you mentioned. What was the other one?


Um That one was work online.


I'll work online. Okay.


Yeah, that one is more like consistent money or like if you want to do customer service like there's a lot of companies that will send you headset train you and


No.


then you'll have like an actual schedule. But yeah, that is what I have. I'm happy that I could share something with someone.


Thank you.


You're so welcome,


um we still have a few minutes.


we do. That's all that I have for right now for that. Um But yeah, so are you working or you're not working right


No


now?


my husband and I both work in restaurants, so nobody is working in restaurants right now.


that's rough. Yeah.


Yeah, but it's I mean we both are high risk, like I have asthma and he has lung are sorry liver disease, so we're just kind of like not feeling like we want to go back to work until there's a vaccine. I'm just trying to find a way to bring in some income to kind of stabilize us until we have more options.


Yeah, for sure. Well these might change the game because they're helping me out. I mean I went from two I think I did like 2 98 in december and now I'm at 700 something. I'm not on the computer all day. And the good thing about those ones I was telling you about with the qualifiers, you you know you sit there for maybe a couple hours during the day filling out your qualifiers and then you'll have stuff set up you know maybe for different weeks during the month and so then you can schedule your life around that stuff. Mhm.


So there is some some way that you can schedule in free time. Yes.


it's there will be like what availability do you have in the month of july or for next week? So it's not I mean it's up to you how you want to schedule it but that's


You


been


know?


working out for me but it has been rough it's been a little rough but just keep pushing what kind of restaurant where you working at? I like to eat. We have one minute


do


and


I?


I'm just like thinking about dinner right


I


now. It's


don't know


it's


seriously,


almost six here.


that's always like, it's always like what's for lunch in, what's for dinner? Um Yeah, I worked for Tom Douglas, he's an iron chef. He but he owns a lot of restaurants in the area and it was a restaurant called serious pie, but it just specialized in like really nice smaller pizzas.


Oh that sounds so good.


It was so good. Um If you like to cook, I know a really great pizza crust recipe, you want to write it, Not write down the recipe, but I can tell you what the website is. Um Harold. I gotta find it really quick though. I'm so sorry.


well it's fine


Um Let's say mm But yeah this pizza crust is incredible. It's a must must make, it's going to take me a few minutes to find it because


It's okay. I don't mind going over a couple of minutes for a good pizza crust because I've just been you probably don't have it on the west coast but we just get our pizza crust at publix. Yeah.


no we don't have that. It's pretty good though.


So good. And just make like a garlic butter sauce and put it on there. Mhm.


So it's um if you just type in uh it's javelina but it's G. J. E. L. I. N. A. Pizza dough. And


D.


the recipe


J. E. L. I. N. A. Okay,


GJ Area and then it's it's on forward dot com. But I'm telling you this pizza dough recipe is worth your time. I didn't think pizza dough could be this good out of the house. So


I'm excited. We cook


Wait,


all of our meals here all day, every day is tiring but it's worth it.


your business is sound really cool by the way


You can check us out, we're trying to figure out how to ship stuff like we're doing everything locally right now but we love to find a way to be able to ship smoothies, but you can check this out at blended soul smoothie bar dot com.


blended soul smoothie bar dot com because I have a few friends in Atlanta. So


Oh cool. Yeah. Plant based vegan and we will deliver delivered to some dental offices and usually office is really like to get stuff like that here. Uh


I'm gonna let my friends in Atlanta know about you.


Thank you. And we're on instagram so just let them know. Thank you so much.


Yeah. So cool talking to you. I can't tell you how relieved I was to see another woman on the computer screen. I was like, oh my God, it's going to be some dude from like the east Coast or something.


Being weird. No we don't have time for that.


No,


I'm so glad. It was really good talking with you too. And just some human interaction.


I know right? What a treat. What a treat.


Well thank you so much. I hope you have a good evening. And I don't I don't think there's anything else we need to do except I don't


I


know


think,


if we're supposed to close this


I think


or.


we click over to the other tab and then push the red button. I'm not sure what to do. Are we closing when we're done with the conversation? Is that what


happens?


see. Do not move on to the next page until you've opened the conversation in a new tab. You will not be able to go back to this page and you will not be able to begin your conversation. Okay. You should see a timer timer starts remember keep the conversation for at least 25 minutes. Which we have done. I don't know what happens when we click the button.


Um Well, I think that if you go, if you push the bottom red but bottom red button on the right, then it will take us to a survey that we fill out. But I think we can close this now, right? Because the conversation has ended. Okay.


Okay.


All right.


It was nice talking with you


You to


virus


mm. All right. Mhm. Hello?


Hi,


How are you?


Yes, I'm all right, how are you doing?


I'm good. Where where do you live?


Um I live in Arkansas.


Okay. I live in Connecticut. Have you done this before?


Yeah, a few times.


Yeah, me too. How's your experience been?


Um I mean the first time was like kind of slow, but the other two times were pretty good. Yeah.


You haven't been like matched with anyone. I don't know who doesn't talk. That's like my fear. Yeah.


that would be, yeah, luckily the other people, they've been like pretty talkative,


That's good.


some kind of awkward, so I'm like trying to make


my


it work, but sometimes it's like


it's hard with just a random person. So um how is


this


everything


is


going there with Covid and whatnot?


um Well, I mean it's kind of getting better. Things are opening up and like my university, like we had like 900 active cases for like like sometime in september and now it's way down


Well, that's good.


so it's going good


Yeah, I heard that like it was kind of going back up now. I don't know if that's just like in my area. Um


secure.


but I don't know. I thought it was getting better, but I really know anymore. Honestly like


Yeah, I don't know, it's hard to keep track.


yeah, I agree. So you're in school? What are you going to school for?


I'm majoring in theater performance.


Oh, that's cool. Are you almost done or do you have like a ways to go?


I'm I'm a freshman so I'm still,


You're just so that must


I


be hard to start school like this because it's it's just online. Right. Are you at campus?


Um Yeah, like most of my classes are online, but I have two classes that candy in person, but they haven't met in person for a while just because people were sick and then it just got kept on getting pushed back and we don't we're not supposed to meet every class anyway for that class.


mm. Do you live on campus or do you like live well steal of like the parents are


Yeah, I live at home. It's like a 30 minute drive there and it's cheaper.


Oh yeah, I bet are you going to live there like


coming


before


through.


all this happened or?


Um No, I mean I wasn't really sure I was gonna go before so I didn't really like have a plan. Like I thought I was going to be in a dorm but I ended up being here. I kind of like I'm kind of glad I ended up


I don't know.


staying at least for this year just because everything is so weird.


Yeah, and that definitely saves a lot of money. I feel like remember


All


board, it's so expensive so that's pretty hard. Um


switch. Why do you do?


um So I'm in school too, I'm doing it online, I'm doing my masters right now. Um and I went to school to be a dietitian, so I've been setting for my board exam. Yeah. Covid just kind of slowed the process down because I couldn't even sign up for the test for a really long time. And like then when I could sign up, it was really hard because you can only have so many people there at a time and but I don't know, I'm just trying to like study and keep doing my work. It's just hard. It's like hard at home because I can't really go to a coffee shop and like sit down somewhere and it's hard to do work like in my room. I don't know if you feel the same way, but it's just hard for me to do that. I get distracted easily, so Right.


I'm not going anywhere. You can take the car, you can take the car, they're taking the car. Uh huh.


But yeah, I don't know. Just trying not to lose my mind being at home so much I guess. Mhm.


Yeah.


All right.


Did you go out a lot before everything was?


Like I was never a super going out person anyway, but I did like to even just go like get coffee and sit there and like just get out of my house. But I didn't go out out a lot. Um So I mean I don't like not like being home, but I don't know, it's just weird because some people are really strict about the virus and some aren't and like I don't know where I fall into that because I don't know, I'm just trying to go by the rules but some people are I don't know crazy about it and some are into like I don't know. Uh huh.


I'm the same.


Uh huh. Have you gotten a test or anything for it?


I haven't I haven't had to get a test or anything, so I've been lucky. It sounds awful.


Yeah it does especially for like older people. Um I don't know it's weird, it's like hard to believe it's happening and like you don't have it so it's like I know what's happening but it's I don't know like it's just it's weird that this will happen. I kind of can't believe it. This year has been horrible. Yeah.


Remember like, like back in january, we were talking about it when it was like still mostly in china and we're like joking about it. Like now I look back and I'm


No.


like that aged like milk. I didn't go,


Oh my god. I know


I didn't go well.


I didn't think it was a big deal at all and then once started like things started closing, I was like oh shit. Uh It's just weird like how it all


Where?


started


But


from one person, you know what I mean? Like it's just weird. I don't know and I I feel like it's gonna be hard to get rid of so I don't know. And then like I don't know with the whole stimulus thing like I didn't even get that. I don't know about you. But I don't know. The government just sucks. So yeah. I don't know. And I feel bad for businesses closing to, that sucks. Uh huh.

Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


It's yeah, I just want things to go back to normal because like before this like senior year I was like super, super active. Like I went out as much as I could and like, you know, did all the things with my friends and like, you know, no, I can't do that. It's like uh


No like sometimes I will go out to a restaurant but it's just not the same. And then I feel like I don't know sometimes I feel like should I be doing this I'm just being selfish or something but like other people are doing it. I don't know. It's like it is it is really annoying because like me and my friends like we see each other but definitely not as much and it's just like can't really do anything so um I don't know, it's weird. Um So for the other people you've talked to, has it been like mainly like girls or is it kind of


yeah, it's all been like women, but most of them have been like like two of them were at least like their forties or fifties and one of them she was like in her thirties so Yeah. Mhm.


Might have been mostly women actually like close to like my age. Um And there was one guy Um and he was like older, I think he was like 50 or 60. Um I did like match with a girl last time who said she like got matched with a 19 year old boy who didn't talk and I'm like that is your life, like I was just like, oh my God, that must have been so annoying, but it has mostly been girls for me too.


Yeah, I remember, I mean this isn't like on here, but like I remember once I was in like 10th grade and I went with my friend to like this like this church dance thing and you know um like he was the only person I knew there and like this guy came up to me like asked me if I want to dance is like uh like you know, I can't say no whatever like okay And he didn't talk the whole time and like I tried talking to him and he was silent


Even


and it was the most awkward like 10 minutes of my life, I was like


my fear of life, like, like dating to not like I date anyways, but like just sitting there and having someone that doesn't


just


talk because like I can't really keep a conversation for very long so I need help. Um That's awkward. I'm sorry that happened especially when you're doing something like I don't know, I can I can picture that being horrible. Mhm.


Yeah.


Um So what's there to do in Arkansas?


Um Mostly like outdoor things, you know, there's a lot of trails, a lot of hiking, got some nice mountains and for the natural state, so it's kind of our thing. Um There's also there's also crystal bridges if you like art and they have really good collections


that's cool. Is it like warm there now?


um right now it's cooling down. But yeah,


It's cool. Good.


it's usually nice weather.


Yeah, I've never been there. I've never really been over like that way, so that's cool. It's getting cold here. Kind of not today, but like it was like in the low 60s like last week. So yeah, I I like cold weather so.


Yeah, I prefer it to hot weather,


Yeah. Two. Uh huh.


especially for like makeup sores.


god, me and my friend talked about that like I don't know because you're like some people they don't worry about that stuff and they don't care, but like I'm like, I'm very conscious of that. Like if I, because I feel like I sweat a lot and then if my makeup looks disgusting, I just, I don't feel good. But it's all my other friends like, who cares? And I'm like, I mean I know it's not a big deal, but like it's some kind of sucks. I don't know. Yeah, I don't like to eat at all.


I feel like, I feel like the setting sprays that I found have been kind of sucky too. It's like where do you find a good one


I don't I don't really, I have used a setting spray


From?


but I don't think it did anything, but I'd like to know if there's something that actually works. I feel like that's maybe just to get you to spend more money. Like I don't think it does any like extreme.


I think, yeah, I think what I'm gonna do is so I'm in like the stage tech last, we're doing makeup stuff like, and I've kind of realized it's like heavier grade stuff so I'm gonna find like it's like a performance space, like setting spray because if it can survive under the lights and everything, I'm sure it'll work for just like a normal makeup.


Where do you get like that kind of stuff like


Um, I mean, I know I looked online and I found like the setting sprays on amazon. I don't know where they got like this stage makeup because she just like, um, one of the times she met, she gave us a bag and I had like all the things for the projects we're gonna do so we could do them at home. And she just had like the stage makeup kit in there. Like, but you can like, I don't know. It's just like, I guess you can buy them also individually. I guess it just depends on what you're doing, but


I'm not like, look that up because maybe that's what I need is just like heavier duty makeup or something uh interesting. I love makeup so and all that stuff. All right.


Do you have a favorite palace?


No, I don't really


hmm.


use like, like you're talking about like eye shadow. I don't really use eyeshadow that much, but I do really like it. I just don't use it that much on myself. Um But I like um was the it was like a it was a morphine palette. I like morphy. I like that brand and I liked Heart too. I like Jeffrey Star, but I know there's some like weird stuff happening with it. Yeah,


don't know what's going on exactly.


I think it's good though. Like I'm not gonna lie. But yeah, that's awkward. I don't even understand like


Let's


anything


see if something.


about that anyway is like, I don't know do you follow stuff like that? I know it's kind of stupid, but like


Mhm No, like


and


I like last year


well like,


when like Shane was like making his series on,


Yeah, I love this


on


video.


that and all that was going down. Like I followed that like, I love that series and you could like fall along with what was going on


Text


with James


public.


trials. But then like, I don't know what happened this year. Like it just got so complicated. I lost track. No, I don't really know what's happening anymore


No.


or how I feel. I just know I like


Good.


the makeup and I was entertained by the series


I


so


know.


I was kind of over at,


Like I'm kind of mad because I like the series two now. It's like not like it's ruined, but it's kind of tainted and it just makes me mad because I liked it and I like learning about like how much a custom make the pallets and what they were like. That was really cool and I don't know about that. Whatever her name is like Totti or It's like 45 who's like on YouTube.


Yeah. That warm.


Yeah. She looks really good on the anyway. Yeah. I don't know. It's really weird because I know morphy isn't like, I think, um we're fee and Jeffrey star burst like a thing anymore. Yeah.


Yeah. I don't, I haven't,


Thank you.


I don't know about that or I


Like


don't know. I haven't kept up with it.


I think, well, I think they like, I guess they had a I don't know, a contract or like or whatever


I know they had a pallet together


who are


and they also had like yeah they had a settings for a


yeah,


yeah. So


I don't think


how


anymore


it happened,


because like supposedly he's racist I guess. I don't know like


I don't know.


it's just annoying because I like I like very like I don't know


It's really


people like


annoying


that.


how many people are getting canceled because like I don't know, I can't


I know.


keep up with it and afterwards it's like what do I do?


I know because I feel bad like should I don't buy this stuff that I really like it. I don't know. That whole cancel thing is like I don't know. And the grand scheme of things when you think about it like does any of this stuff matter like I don't know. It's just weird. Yeah, I like the Rich Youtuber is too going and I'm just jealous of them. Really? I want you to like do you follow anyone or?


Um Yeah like I watch it now, I mostly watch like commentary stuff. Um Yeah like Cody ko and like kurtis Conner like that kind of side.


Yeah, I'd like to use to watch things like Emma chamberlain like just for entertainment kind of um I think I'm just jealous of her because she like gets to go to paris fashion. We could lose your time. She's like 18. Uh huh. But I don't know sometimes I just watch it really entertainment. Um Yeah.


That's like that's why like Jeffrey star like part it was like his personality but also just kind of like kind of cool to see like how ridiculously wealthy he was. It's like whoa, I didn't know that was even nothing.


You know like wasn't like six years ago at all, like he had no money. So crazy house wealthy he is now um Oh I don't know. And he's like so beautiful. Yeah.


I'm so mad.


No, I'm so mad at you. I don't know. Really sucks and like his house is so pretty and I don't know if you, you know like his ex boyfriend like Nathan you follow that kind of stuff. I was like I was sad when they broke up just


me


like you know.


too.


Yeah was like personally up tonight.


It's like oh


I still kind of like was confused about that. Like I don't know because he would call him like street, but I'm like, but he's not right. You know what I mean? Like that views like how is he straight if you're bisexual?


I don't know. Yeah.


I was just not


no.


like any of that matters, but I abuse


It's not like it matters, but I'm still like I still wanna know like I still have questions,


No, like no business.


how does that work?


Yeah. Yeah. I was like so sad. Uh huh. Okay. It's not my life. I guess so. Yeah. Do you like James Charles?


I mean like I never watched him


I


before.


don't even


Like, like he seems okay like a goddess palette because it's, you know, they had a bunch of colours, like affordable and it was pretty good. So, but I don't really know anything about.


What? I don't believe there. Like I don't follow him. Um But yeah, like he's pretty young, right? Like 20 tv. That makes me feel inadequate


He means


like Will be successful. 20 year olds.


Like now that I'm like, Like


All


now there's something like 18, 19 year old like artists that are so successful and I was like, oh, like I'm just getting started and like they're already, you know, at the peak of their career, like okay, I guess I'm


No,


a little slow on that. Okay.


this time. All right. Yeah. It makes me feel bad sometimes, but they're just lucky honestly. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. I think part of it it's definitely the opportunities, like some people just like, you know what they want to do in life earlier and they are able to do it and I just you know, house the right situations like I don't know.


Yeah, that's true. Like I don't feel like I'm like that at all. I don't know what I'm doing. Even though like I kind of know what I want to do. I still don't know right?


Yeah.


It's kind of crazy in high school you have to like know what you want to do for school and like college it's like well I don't know. That's like a lot to ask right?


It's like what do you want to do for the rest of your life just side now.


Well done. You know martin? Yeah well


What kind of music do you listen to?


I can't listen to everything. Um Except I don't really only country a whole lot. I don't know you feel about country but not like affordable but I just don't listen to it, wow. Um Yeah I kind of in a different stuff like some like alternative um Especially when I go to the gym I like kind of stuff like that. Um Some like old stuff, some rock sometimes popping out like a whole lot. Um Yeah, what about you?


Yeah. That's parents the same. Like alternative, indie rock, pop. I don't really like country very much. It just gets on my nerves. I don't know what it is. But like what I hear a country song, I just have the urge to hate it mindlessly.


thank you. It is here my ex boyfriend loved country. Always play it. And I think, I mean maybe like hate it more because he never played it right? It's definitely not my speed. It's all like the same to me on the contrary. Music is the same about trucks and like they're in love with a girl I


It's like


think


it


trump.


feels fake. Like I feel so formulaic.


it's food.


It's like this can't be real. I know there's something else going on.


Mm. Mm. Yeah. I have friends who really like it. Sunshine. I don't know.


Yeah. Like I mean living where I do, you know, you can you run into it?


Yeah, that's true. Have you always lived there? You


Uh, no I've I mean this as long as like I've ever been anywhere for like 10 years, but before this I lived like Tennessee and we were in Rhode island for a little bit as well. That was like when I was a lot younger. So this is mostly been my life.


Mm hmm. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I'm, I'm originally from me,


Much.


but I moved to Connecticut when I was young and I've just been current. So No. Yeah.


Yeah. I have a friend who he lives in Connecticut now, like he's a like a ballet dancer and they have a school


What


somewhere nutmeg. So now he lives in Connecticut.


for your family? My um, my sister went to school in boston for like performing arts. Um, she's really into like that stuff. I was never, I was never talented in that way. Um, I wish I was, but just never happened for me. Yeah, I always liked theater, like growing up I was always in the school plays and stuff, right?


I mean if you want to like, I mean there's always like place you can do if you want to try it out, you know his


I'm like, so I just get so nervous, you know? Um So I feel like that probably goes away eventually,


the light.


But I don't know, are you like, do you perform in them a lot or?


Um I mean like as far as like being nervous goes like I'm like I'm kind of shot an awkward, but I don't know like I like I like I like talking and I like having that attention so it's like really fun for me if I know what I'm doing and then, but like it's at school, like the school I went to, it wasn't a big high school as a charter school, so I didn't have as many performance opportunities as other people. So now, like I go to school and I feel like I'm not as like prepared as everyone else.