Right. Right. Yeah. I don't know, I love prolific. So, you know, like I used to do the enter stuff years ago all the freaking time, like every spare minute and then I just kind of gave up on it and then I re found, well I found I didn't re find, I found prolific like sometimes this year and like it is so refreshing. It's like the only survey site that just feels like they're fair, they're completely fair with you. You know, some of these surveys sites sketchy, they reject you all the time, they don't pay you well.


Yeah. Hey, you get through like a lot of them, you get through like 20 questions and then they tell you that you don't qualify and you're like, what the heck did you give me the survey for?


So, so like, I don't know, I just I fell in love with prolific this year. It's a really good service.


Yeah.


I this is still a little sketchy, but I'm just going to get out my shell and you know, do it seventh or whatever.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But really, that's Uh huh, wow.


My sister actually introduced me to prolific last year. Yes, she makes a lot of money on prolific. I don't have that kind time, but she like she doesn't have kids and she has really bad social anxiety so she doesn't work. So she does prolific pretty much like a full time job basically. And she makes a decent amount. I just do it on my spare time. So like I might I might go a whole month without doing prolific and then pick back up.


Oh, wow.


So like when I see these, I'm like, oh yeah, it's easy 20 bucks or whatever it is. So I've been doing that.


I picked it up and I originally I would just do it because I don't get a whole lot of free time at work, but I do get several blocks here and their free time. So at first I started just doing prolific in my free time at work, but then I was like, you know, this is kind of a nice, they pay well, they're fair, you know, so I started setting up for the alerts on my pc desktop and I do that at home now whenever I happened to see a little notification pop up, I'll be like, okay, how do you do that?


Yeah. Right.


And but yeah, I just, I fell in love with prolific. I don't know, like I have accounts within turk and Q me and a few others, but like I really don't pay much attention to them. I just focused on prolific and the surveys kind they kind of come sparingly.


You know, it's not like there every time you click there's 10 surveys to take, you know what I'm saying? So it's like you're stuck on doing prolific all day long.


Okay.


But I mean, I'm sure if you're a different demographics get different surveys, so you know, maybe your sister, you know, she gets a lot more.


Right. Yeah.


I don't.


She she actually finds that you get them at certain times like you'll get you'll get a lot more than when like at different times.


Since you noticed that when sorry, when there's um when colleges go on vacation you get less.


Right. Right.


A lot of them are college surveys, which I think is really interesting.


Yeah. Yes. And the coach. Yeah. And like Covid probably screwed that up a little bit because you know, classes being out of session for a time there, but hopefully it's again with, you know, they're doing the zoom and everything now I suppose.


Yeah.


But um what was I gonna say?


Uh.


I can't remember now. Uh huh. Um Sure. Oh yeah.


Uh huh.


Something about Yes.


What? All right. Um So I guess what I guess what part of the country world are you on? I know that some people have talked to people in other countries.


I'm in usa florida, how about you?


Usa florida.


No way.


Yeah I've talked and I've spoke to somebody in yeah once a new Jersey and then California.


Who what?


But the guy from California told me he was talking to somebody from like India who spoke english. So very interesting.


Okay.


A lot different um demographic and stuff like that that we can talk to and right mostly mostly introverted.


No. Yeah it's kind of interesting, I wouldn't mind doing this more often, I mean I get sometimes I'm like two different people sometimes, like I have my extroverted self and then I have my introverted self and but I want to mind doing these just meeting you know, people from random parts of the world and stuff that might uh right, I'm kind of like that too, but yeah.


But like if I know people well enough I become extroverted I guess. Yeah. All right. They want us to keep it going smooth. It's so hard to like on the spot of smooth transitions and.


Oh right, right, I forgot I was so worried about just getting here to be time.


I get I don't I don't currently transport myself, so I depend on a ride and I was like Hugh ming because the ride had to stop and get food and I was like oh my God I made it.


Oh yeah. Yeah.


But I worked, yeah, I work in a hospital but it's not I'm not like a nurse or a doctor or anything.


Right. What do you, so what do you do for work? Um I guess.


I'm I've worked in the kitchen mostly just making sure the meals are correct and stuff.


So it's a yeah it's not horrible but it's not great but it's uh you know.


Okay. No, some people who do that. Right. Right.


Yeah.


Well I'm a stay at home mom. So it's a job the surface doesn't pay great.


Oh wow. Look you're sick. Fair enough. Get home. Right. Right, right.


Ah But yeah.


But most likely to say I keep thinking about, there's something I was going to say. Oh yeah prolific. I tend to be a night out. So like I think I do miss a lot of surveys when I'm sleeping, you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of the colleges are probably going to release those surveys like six a.m. Eight A. M. 10 a.m. New. Meanwhile I usually get up like 10 a.m. 11 A. M. Noon. So I've already missed like that first big block of surveys. But it is what it is.


Yeah. I feel like my sister said it usually happens like there's usually a rush of them early in the am and then like right before dinner time, I want to say there's a rush of them.


Mm I don't know.


I noticed that uh I get a lot right around 3 34 o'clock in the afternoon because I'll be like on my phone or about to leave the house and I've got 12 surveys that I can do, but I can't do them because I got to take my daughter to dance or something like that.


Yeah, I get that constantly where I'll go to check my, I'll be at work and I'll go to check prolific and there will be a lot of surveys, but they'll have the icon where they only want you taking it on the desktop and I'll be like, uh and there's like 10 bucks sitting right here, but I only got my cell phone.


Right? Some of them you can still do on your cell phone.


Yeah, wow.


My sister taught me that trick. Like sometimes you can still pull it off on your cell phone.


Okay.


But like some some of them will kick you out and it doesn't, I don't think it hurts you.


Uh huh. Right.


I don't have any um negative things on mine from it. But like it'll tell you once you go into it, it'll say it, but then it'll say this can only be done on a Pc or something like that. Okay, now let's go.


Right. Okay. I'll have to.


But I've done quite a few of them on my phone that say only for Pc.


Right. Right, okay. I'll try that out. Uh in the future.


Yeah, it's interesting. More. More often than not. You can do them on your cell phone to I mean I would say there's some that you have to use your keyboard for for like I do something like pictures and you have to like hit the left key or the L.


Key for a certain word and a Q percent word type of stuff like that. You can't do those ones. But there's some other ones that you can do right?


Right. Right. Have you ever tried, have you ever took those surveys where they like show the picture of people's faces and then they show the words and it's either a negative word or a positive word and you have to hit a particular key, whether it's a person's white complexion or dark complexion and whether it's a negative word or a positive word.


So. Yeah. Yeah. I've done a couple of them like that. Um I would say there are some of them are different.


Uh Oh yeah.


So some of them are like uh the complexion of the skin. Some of them are like this this person got an angry face and I'm like sir. I guess maybe.


Yeah, I did one where it was like just showing people's eyes one day and like you had to guess their emotions just based on their eyes and that.


Yeah. I just did that one too.


Really? Yeah, it's okay.


I'm so sorry. I didn't do it here dinner. I didn't do. Sorry. Um Why don't you get a fruit, a graph?


Yeah, it's okay.


The dad did you give them crackers? Mhm. Nothing cracker through. Sorry, toddler problems. Massa okay.


Yeah.


Go out to sea for a graham cracker.


Uh huh. Mhm.


Uh huh.


Uh huh, mm hmm.


Uh huh. Four years old and refuses to eat. Yeah. It's the very independent sometimes.


Um Yeah.


Uh Yeah. I've done I've done quite a few prolific studies. I can't I've also done like you me I've tried que me I've tried, there's a couple that I've tried. There was one thing where you could like take pictures of yourself in aisles at grocery stores with certain things.


Mm Or have you tried testable minds?


Is that a couple of times made like 12 bucks off of that? And then I was didn't get any more after that. I did like two or one. I have not.


It's, it's sort of like prolific, but it's, they don't pay quite as good. And there the surveys are like very sparse, like I get like maybe one or two a month, but they're like, they're similar to prolific by like, it seemed like a lot of like college professor type people study doing this stuff rather than like you, me and mturk.


Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.


It feels like it's like a lot of corporate stuff, you know what I'm saying?


Right. Yeah.


Yeah. I think that's one thing that I like about prolific. Is it more I guess more like scientific base college type stuff where uh like you mean like you said is geared towards um corporations trying to find out like where their product lies and kind of like boring stuff.


Mhm. Right. Yeah. And yeah, que me also tends to like rip you off too, and like you were saying, uh you answer 20 questions and then suddenly they're like, oh, you don't qualify.


It's like, okay, I just spent 10 minutes taking your survey though.


Right.


Uh Right.


Uh huh Right. You're like 10 minutes of my time wasted and nothing to show for it.


Mhm. But that's kind of things that like uh well spending money things, so right, I tried to save my paychecks and then I try to use my prolific slash Q me money as my little by little trinkets and knick knack money.


Oh, as home, right?


So like it um I don't know where I was going with that thought, just trying to keep the conversation going.


Right now that's what me and my sister do is uh like if my husband is like very uh mindful of like our money and where everything goes.


Uh huh.


So when I get prolific money I can go like, oh I want something like a holiday decoration or something like that and he won't question it.


Mhm Right.


So it just, it's just easier that way.


Yeah, that's how I treated kind I set myself a little goal, okay, I want to get, you know, 70 prolific books so I can buy this set of new books, you know what I'm saying?


I like doing that. Yeah. Right.


Oh, but then the whole another problem comes in with, once you get it in the papal, some weird stuff happens sometimes. Like the other day I went to buy a book off of Ebay with my prolific money and somehow I don't know what happened. Maybe I didn't have quite enough in my paypal balance, but it went and it charged my bank account for the purchase I was gonna make and my bank account, I only keep one of them, I only keep the very minimum amount in there to avoid things.


Oh uh right.


So I went under. So I know I'm going to get a freaking, you know, uh, overdraft fee or whatever that was really frustrating. But you know what?


Great.


You, I'm not gonna question it. I'm just gonna eat it. Yeah.


Yeah. Sometimes um because I have like we have to go into the papal to change the currency and you okay, get a drink so we have to change the currency and stuff and sometimes I'll forget to do that and then I'll be like really mad at myself.


Yeah. Uh huh You home? Yeah. Okay, right.


But um, and like you said, my husband, he also keeps certain amount of money and his in like a certain part of the bank account and then transfers what we need to come out of there. So that gets frustrated.


Mm I know like I've had a few issues with recently, not all prolific based either.


I was mm Oh, done in the cupcake.


Like I went to buy something on Ebay the other day with a credit card and I didn't realize I was purchasing purchasing it from the U. K. Well I didn't think it mattered but then all of a sudden I get foreign transaction food.


I'm maybe go on, put the call. Food color. Found it. Sorry.


It's okay.


No, you got cool.


But yeah I bought something with a credit card that happened to be in the United Kingdom. So then my credit card slapped a foreign transaction fee on top of my purchase and I was like it was only like $5 but still like it was just you know, mentally at first when when I was talking to the credit card, people about it, they were making it seem like it was the a person I purchase it from who did that charge on top.


Yes. So much. What? Did he insane. Hello?


So I got you know confronted the person and he's like no I wouldn't do that.


I need your and yeah.


And finally the crazy, you're like, oh well extra fee because you did the something in other than dollars and like why didn't you just tell me that in the first place?


Oh, go talk to daddy.


You know is wow.


He's trying to give you something. I'm sorry. Like he wants a piece of candy now. Oh, come on. Yeah, That's crazy. I, I don't know. I don't usually order off with Ebay, my sisters us super like, you gotta be careful of ordering off of Ebay and I'm like, yeah don't do it. I don't know why.


Yeah, I was always there to be bay to until this year and I found a really good deal on something.


Right, right.


I looked something up on amazon and then on Ebay and it was like $20 cheaper on Ebay ever since then I've been uh, you know, kind of price comparison between the two and usually I can get a better deal on Ebay, so.


Yeah, I've noticed a lot more like stores I guess are selling on Ebay, like it's kind of turned into similar to amazon unless people selling like they like what it used to be when I was in high school you go on there and find just about any phone use kind of like craig's list I guess, but it's turned more into um smaller, smaller sales like boutique, almost dish kind of like amazon I guess.


Mm right, right. Mm mm Okay.


I've just noticed that like from searching yeah, looking for and I will take me to Ebay and I'm like, that's interesting actually I saw that um what is that company best buy sells through Ebay? Yeah, I saw that last christmas time, I think I was looking to get the kids a T. V. And I noticed that was kind of interesting thank you.


Yeah. Yeah, they, I like Ebay, I just, I just freaking just this year just like with prolific. I just started trying even and I really like it horrific and even don't um sure no, there we are at like 9, 10 men, oh, so we got like 20 minutes, we gotta make it right, we're almost there.


Yeah this is okay. Um Yeah sure how old speaking this custom? Yeah I was just about 9 10 yep you have to go 25. Uh I I think is usually so usually we find a lot of commonalities I guess like the guy from California and that was from California.


Yeah, it's if there's so many michigan transplants in florida, I meet so many, it's hard to name names and think, but it just seems like a very common thing.


I think he had a lot of family in michigan, I'm from michigan I don't know do you know anybody from michigan or anything like that or from florida originally? Yes. Yeah.


I can picture like two people right now, but I'm sure it's probably closer to 10 people I've met that are from michigan, you know, it seems like a common migration that happens.


Yeah. Right. Are you originally from florida?


Yeah. Born and raised, yeah, yeah.


My husband is too, he's what keeps me here?


Right.


I do not like florida heat. Uh I prefer cold so I can fund a lot.


Uh mhm, mm I can't stand the cold.


I've got a I've got a cousin who lives in Arizona and she loves it.


Yeah mm.


She's and she comes to visit here every now and then and she's like, you don't understand this isn't the type of heat that I like, I don't like florida heat, I like zona g it's much different. I have only experienced that long time because I haven't been there.


Yeah I have a friend that's from Arizona and she says it's different too but I don't know if I want Arizona heat because I feel like it gets to higher temperatures than it does in florida.


Right, Yeah. My way. Right, right, mm.


I personally like 62 50 degree weather. Wish it was that way year round somewhere that would be minutes.


Id I don't know, I just I'm not a fan of cold at all, I'll start shivering at about 60 maybe. Like I do not.


Oh I get I get cold easily but I like like I don't like going outside and just melting.


Yeah. Right, right.


I need it.


I know, I know, I'm just, yeah, right.


We I stay inside until it starts to cool off and then I'm like okay outdoors for as long as we can.


I guess I was just born into it, so I'm used to it, but yeah, but yeah, it is uncomfortable but humanity and stuff, but I don't know, I just deal with it.


No. Yeah. Yeah. Well you live here, you got to.


Right, Thanks.


Yeah.


What else, what else you like college football?


Mhm. A little bit. I will watch college football. We are uh florida fans here and I am a michigan fan.


Mhm. Uh huh, wow.


Yes. What about you?


Yeah, both my parents graduated from University of florida, so that was ingrained into me to from an early age then they haven't been doing so well these last few years and they haven't they didn't even play on saturday.


I Yeah. Yes.


So yeah, they were actually they were ranked high this year, but then just they lost a week ago, and then last week half the team got Covid, so they just didn't even play.


Oh they didn't I haven't watched football at all this year. My husband that sucks.


Hopefully they'll reschedule, so yeah. Mhm.


Uh That right?


But honestly they weren't looking so good, it was probably going to be a bad year, so maybe it's better all catch Covid, I mean, not to be, not to wish bad things on them, but you know right there.


But isn't having the losses.


I first need them having a few more losses this year, so yeah, I'm not too big into sports either, but University of florida football and sometimes basketball, it's just my one little sport I pay attention to.


Yeah. Yeah, I'll watch football but I'm not like a diehard football fan. My husband will scream at the tv and stuff like that. But I'm just like if he's at work and wants me to watch, if you wanted me to watch a game for him, I could watch a game and tell them what's happening. But now with everybody having it on their cell phones I don't need to Oh yeah.


I don't care about anything else.


Yeah. I like watching. I will watch like when when the sorry words are hard when michigan and florida play each other. I'll watch that.


Okay, I'm sure that, yeah.


Uh huh. Mm I'll go to football games. Like if if he wanted to go to a football game, we go to football games. Things of his trying to get me to go to a jaguars game this weekend.


Mhm.


I'm not I don't know about Covid and go into the ball games with Covid right now.


Oh, okay. Right. Uh to avoid stuff like that, Well, you're not even gonna be able to trick or treat them, are you?


Well yeah so mhm. Uh But it would be fine. I want we've been wanting to take the kids to go, but I just and I know about with Covid with the four year old, he's the demanding little stink sometimes. Uh No, we're doing an outdoor because we have a huge yard, so we're gonna do like a little um trunk or treat type thing with some of our family and friends just kind of keep it close, but everything is gonna be done outside.


Yeah. Oh, yes. Nice. Nice.


Yeah, so we bought a bunch of candy and we're trying to make sure that all the can the kids get to go home with the same amount of candy that they would have if they went trick or treating for real.


Nice. Nice. Yeah. I don't have any kids or anything but I was just wondering about that for kids this year like what they were gonna do, you know?


So people are wanting to still take their kids trick or treating. There's a lot of people I guess, but like my sister is in this one group where you can um there's an app where you can say yes or no, you're handing out candy.


Yeah. Well. Uh huh.


And to when we last looked, there were only two houses in her neighborhood that we're handing out candy and usually her neighborhood is big on handing out candy.


Yeah. Right.


So, and then with, it's kind of been like trigger treating isn't what it was when we were kids, you go and like every fourth house is handing out. Uh huh. And so it kind of sucks like you're walking miles and miles to get a bunch of candy and then everybody's tired.


Right.


Like we go in big groups were losing Children. Like I personally like dressing up like we dress it up only five.


Okay. Yes.


We always do like a whole family costume, but I personally hate trick or treating love dressing up hatred or threatening.


So.


So I'm kind of excited for a party.


Okay.


Not well.


Right. Right. Kind of couple of stuff you don't like out of it and put the good stuff.


Yeah. And then when we were shopping for candy, I was like, hey, we get to buy all of the good candy and none of the stuff that gets left over and the kids, it's going to be there in the bucket.


All right. Exactly.


So there's like, it's a win win.


That's what Right name.


Yes, We have to spend a bunch of money on candy, but it'll be fun.


I mean the alternative would probably be a lot worse and the kids will be happy from that. So it sounds like a plan.


Yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. We're looking forward to it. We've got a good handful of people coming. I figure with and we're going to do goody bags instead of bowls because I was just like, one of my biggest concerns with trigger treating was the kids, hundreds of kids reaching their hands and bowls.


Right. Right. Right.


That's candy. I'm like, mm, I don't think I want to do that.


Right. That's yeah I don't yeah.


And uh, the kids are jeremy. And then another concern was, there's always those kids that don't know boundaries and they walk into stranger's houses and we have a couple of them in our group, so I'm like, I don't, I really don't like to country, but yeah, it will be fun.


Right. Right. Yeah. It sounds like it would be a good time.


Mhm.


Make the kids will have you know the kids will have good memories and they'll have they'll get can Yeah it'll it'll recreate I mean it won't be 100% the experience that maybe me and you had trick or treating this year, but it'll be close and it'll be a good memory probably so.


Okay. Okay. And I mean we we have a huge yard, so I'm like, I'm going all out decorating, creating a cemetery and uh we're having like, my whole family is dressing up as clowns, like killer clowns or whatever Children's ideas.


Uh huh. Right.


So we're kind of doing like a clown theme for our little area. We have a a couple of families or family members that will pull their cars around to our big backyard and they'll have like lights in their cars and stuff like that. It'll be fun now have a bonfire and yeah, think we've made it.


Uh huh. It sounds cool. Well, they re made it.


Uh huh. I've got to get back to making my Halloween stuff here soon. I'm turning some skeletons into clowns so I have to make their wigs.


Oh my gosh.


Yeah.


What have fun with your Halloween backyard thing? It sounds like it would be nice.


Thank you. And you, I guess have fun at work. And I don't know what your plans are for Halloween. So you don't have kids.


No, region. No, it's I'll just sit around and watch some Halloween movies or something I don't know.


Right. Right. Alright. Well, nice talking to you.


All right.


Uh huh.


Nice to meet you.


You too.


But thank you.


But on your prolific journeys. Uh Thank you.


You too. Bye.


But.


When I will do that. My exodus.


Thank you. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


Hello.


Hi, how are e?


You're the first person that actually worked on. I've done this like three times and it's always been no one. So it's so I am too right.


You need, well I'm glad it finally worked. What's your name? My name is Bacon.


Reagan.


Yes, I need to shot.


I'm Sean nice to meet you.


How's your day bed?


It's been uh not uncommonly kind of a day.


Mhm. What?


Yeah, I'm skimming all these pictures for my younger brother of my mom passed about a year ago and I found out that I inherited her trailer.


Mm wow.


So I so my husband and I went down there saturday to look at it and we uh found a lot of teachers and stuff. So my brother lives in Wisconsin. I'm in Chicago and I thought I would just stand something for him and it's she was such a hoarder, it was so weird to all this stuff and and now I'm trying to go through it and trying to deal with what I want to do with everything which is well you know what it's hurt stuff but it's uh she was a hoarder so it's like a lot, you know it's none of that stuff seemed to be like a any value but you know but to her I think just throw away most of it or donate whatever is good.


Mhm. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's a lot to have to deal with. Like it's her stuff so you want to take care of it? I totally understand. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Well I hope that you get all that worked out. It sounds like it might take a while.


Oh yeah. Um Yeah it will and I just wanna I can't believe that you know living in a trailer park. I I I never visited her there because her and I were restrained but uh but it's so expensive, you pay for your trailer and then you're paying almost $1000 a month for the land that you're on.


Uh huh wow. Really? I didn't know.


Yeah affordable but it's so not no it's uh it's creepy, it's really creepy.


Yeah. Yeah. I mean I thought that if I didn't even know that it was like that expensive, I thought that it was more affordable. I guess it seems like it would be.


I I I felt like it was like everyone was watching us going to the park and it was like oh we're strangers here but.


Yeah. Yeah. Has it, have you gotten more comfortable like the longer you live there?


Mhm. I've only been there once that this past saturday. So I am.


Mhm.


I don't know. Maybe I will.


Yeah. Maybe just give us some time.


Well it's yeah, where do you live?


I am currently in college, so I go to college at Swansea University, it's in Tennessee, but I'm originally from Little Rock Arkansas Signal.


Mhm. I love Little Rock.


Mm Really?


I have done, I used to work at Arkansas rep. Yeah, so I did I did like seven or eight shows there school.


Oh wait, the rep like the performing theater company.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did their christmas shows, so I did like joseph and uh we'll see you and I and uh hello dolly and some other jobs.


That's cool. I've been there a couple of times. That's awesome. Yeah. Mhm.


But uh yeah, I lived in Chicago and I always lived here.


Well that's cool. You said you're in Chicago now though, right, okay.


But uh but they hire um a stage manager so they hire stage managers from Chicago new york.


Uh huh.


So we when we did our job we make sure the rules are set. And uh yeah, I love I love little Rockets. So um I know you know that soon coming from Chicago, it was always like a vacation.


Really? Yeah. Yeah.


It was quiet and I mean we live right downtown, so we could we we could walk from our apartment to wrap in like five minutes. So it was always like clothes and downtown, Little rock is dead at night and you know what I mean?


When? Right. Yeah, I know we don't have anything to do at night.


I was like, okay, what, you know, you know, across the river there was a bar or two that we went to maybe. But uh there was a lot of catfish things there.


Yeah, that's so funny. Like most people, when I say I'm from Little Rock Arkansas have no idea what that is because it's kind of like a, like a really small city, so like that's really cool that you know what it is.


Yeah. You know, it's sort of, you know, they do, are they dead? Who knows what it's going to happen now. They didn't really great work there and uh like really important work and work that, you know, the little rock audience just, I don't know if they knew how lucky they were to see this work in Little Rock.


Mhm Yeah. Yeah.


His um you know, they have your, you know, new york actors and then they used little rock actors too. So they like blended this, this company together with, you know, all these people and uh and I always felt like, you know, they treated me like a king there, so I loved it, you know, it's like if I was like, oh I need a car, they got me a car.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.


Yeah, you know, it was really nice.


Yeah, I didn't even, I mean, I think I might have been like one or two shows with the breath, but I didn't know that all that work went into, like, I didn't know that they outsourced the people they were hiring like bringing someone in from Chicago seems like a really big deal.


Yeah, you have one, Yeah.


So that's uh Mhm.


You know, the first time I went there, I was like, oh, I thought I was going to be in the sticks, you know, I'm like what is going to be, we're really horrible, but you know, I have time to, you know, I wouldn't want people, they're they're they're intelligent and and um they embraced our, our shows and I just loved it there.


It's cool. Hey, I'm glad that you like my hometown. I've been in Chicago a few times too.


Mhm Yeah, affordable.


I have some family that lives there and I love Chicago. I think it's like, I think new york is like really overrated. The Chicago is new york but like better.


I feel like new york is uh you know, Chicago is an affordable new york.


Yeah.


I am, yeah, but she's like, oh my God, I couldn't imagine like paying over $1000 for a studio that you could like touch the walls.


Yeah. I know. I know and it's just so crowded there like people are like packed together like sardines, you have more space in Chicago to like spread out a little bit.


Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, garbage, they put the garbage in the front of the buildings at night and it's it's really horrible.


So what what what did you do in Chicago? What do you like about Chicago?


Um Okay, so I visited when I was like in middle school maybe, but I really like getting to see my family. So we visited like the actual city part and like um I forget what the name of that like big tall building is like the yeah, the Sears Tower and john hand coffee visited both of those and like we were in the city for a while and we went and saw the bean and stuff.


Yeah, he was talking what?


But I really like getting to see my aunt uncle because they lived in like a more residential areas.


Mhm.


It was really quiet. I'm not sure exactly where they lived for. Like, I really like getting to spend time with them.


That's awesome issue.


Yeah. The pizza. I mean the Chicago style pizza, like literally unbeatable.


What? Yeah, something, there's this movie or not a netflix show called Emily in paris.


Mm I haven't heard of it.


She um she she trashes Chicago pizza and Chicago culture and I was like, I was so mad, I was I was watching this and I was like, no, no no no you can't do this, okay.


Mm hmm. No way. Dude Chicago culture is like, I think it's so cool. Like the Chicago bears. I'm not even a big baseball fan to like, or not the bears. I'm sorry, the cups like I'm not a big baseball fan, but I love the logo and like the colors and I feel like it's also cooled.


And I like the underdog story that they were like, they didn't win for over 100 years, the world series and they did it and let's go, you know, I don't.


Yeah. And that's insane. Like I don't even watch baseball, but like everybody got that.


During that period I was like oh I'm a fan, you know I mean the whole city embraced the cubs and it was really kind of cool so what do you make?


Yeah. That is so cool. So urination.


Oh my Yeah what is your major at?


I am a politics and english double major. I want to go to law school. My dad went to law school and I look up to him a lot.


Yeah.


He's a judge now. Uh, but I think I want to practice law.


Uh huh.


So really, that's what I want to do when your husband and married.


My husband's a lawyer. Yeah. Um We got married. Oh my god. Um Six years ago. Seven years ago.


No. So it's been like, it's been a while.


Yes.


That's cool.


Yeah we've been together this year. Will be 10 years.


Oh, that's or kind of loss as you practice.


Yeah. Oh uh Family law so like wills and trusts and divorces and.


All right. Well I always, I think like people have this perception of lawyers, like they're all like in court arguing and stuff and like that's not how they all are and turned at a law firm this summer.


Yeah sure.


And like I was talking this lawyer and she was like, we don't all have to like go to court, like there's family law and there's real estate law, like there's all these different routes you can take, so that's why I'm really interested in it, it's I think there's just so many different options.


Oh well the one order has rude uh you know courtrooms for everybody because they uh you know trial last you know between the commercial breaks.


Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah we are.


It doesn't you know you're like you know most most most most cases don't go to trial.


Yeah.


They Yeah so it's like you know it's like you don't want to go to trial.


Mhm. No the whole point is to avoid going to trial.


Yeah, so how long have you been a stage manager, wow.


Yeah. Mhm. Um Let's see, I got my Masters in 98. So since 1998 I've been a professional stage manager.


So you're like you are you brought like some years under your belt, your like a pro?


Cool. I am a pro. Uh recently I've been working at the second city, it's a comedy theater in Chicago where uh Tina fey started and like Terrell and steve Colbert and yeah because right now uh friends of mine are on saturday night live uh can 80 Bryant and chris read and uh strong, what's her first name is skating?


Yeah. Goodbye wow. That's really how?


They all worked at second city with me.


That's awesome, it's like big shot now.


Yeah, I know and you know and you know all these people I've managed now they're making you know, they make more money in one day that I made it a year sometimes worth it.


Okay mm we'll make it, yeah. Um where'd you get your Master's from? An undergrad?


It's in school at east.


Okay wow.


Okay. It's so funny me and why I graduated so long ago I went to Yale. So I did because I don't know, I feel like as long as you get an education it doesn't matter where you go, I mean more important to get that education so I'm not gonna judge someone who went to junior college or to, you know, you know see Truman College which is down the street from me or something where that doesn't have a name because they, you know what they went to college and I think it's so important.


Really, That's awesome, you're like being really humble about it but that's so awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree.


Oh you're talking about Oh, alright person.


My sister just graduated from Princeton last year. Yeah. Really? It's such a beautiful campus but like I talked to her all the time because so I'm at Swanee and that's like a smaller liberal arts school and like it's so prestigious but it's like it's not Princeton but she's always talking me and she's like Reagan you're like having, you're getting the same like you're getting a really good education and like I was always super stressed out at Princeton, like that's what she would say and she's like I didn't be your experience because like you're not like you're stressed out all the time, like you're you're still having fun.


Yeah, yeah, yeah.


Like I feel like like you said like getting an education is a really big deal wherever you get it from. And like I think we're all really privileged to even be able to go to college, you know?


And then you know that shouldn't be that way.


Oh yeah.


Everyone should be able to go to college. Everyone should, if you want to go to college you should be able to go to and not have ones, you have to pay for it for the rest of your life.


Yeah.


It's so weird in this country where we're like just stuck, we're stuck in, you know, all these other countries are beating us because I am allowing people to get educated and uh yeah so I don't get I know and you know and it's going down compared to other problems that are rising which is Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Out of the many problems our country is facing. That's one of them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot to think about. I try not to think about it because it makes me stressed out want.


So were you actually in classes, are you doing things remotely or how?


Um Okay so they gave us the option to either study remotely so I could have stayed at home and then all of my classes online, but since I'm here um some of them are like zoom classes so their online and then like I think two of them meet in person, but even the ones that meet in person have online options.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah.


So like I couldn't go home at any time I wanted to and like just switch over to remote learning.


Right.


But I wanted to test it out and just like be here and see my friends and stuff. And so it's been it's been good. I'm really glad to be able to be bad because I know a lot of colleges like either had outbreaks and got sent home, like didn't even give their students a chance to come back.


Mhm.


So isn't everybody well.


Mhm. Great. I really seem to college experience shapes you it really, you know, I grew up so much during those four years and I just uh yeah, I just couldn't imagine growing up in front of the screen, you know, I don't think I would work as well.


Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Um Yeah, that's part of the reason that I came back and like, I guess it's good that they're making it accessible for everyone by like having some of the classes be online.


Okay come on.


But like you said like you, this is an experience.


What?


It's like nothing else is like it like these four years and even like going to grad school, I feel like it's a bit different than being an undergrad. So like your four years of underground are like really influential in shaping who you are.


Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh huh.


So.


Last time to not be an adult, you know, you know, you know after you graduate you have to get that job and then you're stuck in, you know, you could be stuck in a job for a long time you don't like or you have to like you know do an extra in ship and do this and that and you know clerk or whatever, you know and you're not going, you know, you're you're it was further and further away, you know that heart and uh you know last time just say oh I screwed up darn, you know, mm mhm, mhm.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Absolutely agree with you. Um Yeah, that's, I'm a junior in college right now, so I've got one more year and like I've been trying to kind of like use that mindset of like, this is like my last couple of years, like not being adult and not have responsibilities, but honestly it's been kind of hard with covid because like, I feel like I'm here, but I'm not really here and now we have all these rules and regulations and like I know it's to keep everyone safe.


Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah.


Like it's still pretty tough to kind of adjust all of that. So mm Oh yeah.


Yeah, I can't imagine the first year students what they're feeling because I have this, you know, doesn't have any of this experience really hard on them.


Yeah, it must be, I'm so grateful to have had my first two years.


Oh wow.


Like they like unencumbered by all of that. Like my sisters, I said, she graduated last year, so she was part of that class. They got like they're seeing in year cut short. So I would hate to be a junior.


Yeah.


I mean not a junior, a senior right now or a freshman, but like, I don't know, it's just it's so much and I feel like it's really unprecedented for everyone.


Oh yeah, mm and but you know, but I feel like we're not all going through the same thing though, I think, I mean there's some people who who are deniers and they're you know they're super spreaders and you know there's uh there's this this guy, I think his name is trump who who all thinks that he's cured and he could do what he wants and he can make this, uh, you know, he said, you know, I'm here for the people know he's there for himself so he can get put in jail because it's going to go there once he, once his term is done.


So we're all going through it together. So it's kind of nice in a way that like everyone kind of is going through the same thing. Mm Oh yeah, yeah, fingers crossed. I mean, hopefully.


Yes. Oh my God, he, I mean, I just can't believe, you know, you know, he's like, well, you know, I've done more for the gays and the blacks and the Latinos and anyone else. You did, you made us worse, you know?


Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Oh my goodness. I mean I love politics measures so I sit around and listen to this stuff all day.


Uh huh.


Like it really it never gets old. Like I don't want it to get old. Like how incredibly disrespectful to the office of the presidency that he is. Like, I can't let myself get callous to it because if I do then like I think that kind of cheapens what he's doing and I think that's what almost happening. He's like, we're so used to like hearing all the crazy stuff that he says, it's almost starting to like be normalized. Like after remind myself this isn't normal, Like this isn't okay.


Yeah, yeah.


This needs to be corrected. Like I'm my goodness, I'll get frustrated if I started talking about it, but like, so. Right.


You know, being quarantined for a while in Chicago and all that. That's all my husband and I talked about with politics, politics, politics and it was like, you know, I learned more about politics that period than I ever wanted to learn.


Yeah. Yeah.


So you know, I mean at least I knew what the constitution uh yes man.


Do you have a amazon prime um on amazon time.


I do have amazon prime.


There's this show called or it just came out on friday is called what the constitution needs to me. It's a one woman show. Well they have like a guy and then another but mostly a one woman show and she talked about the constitution and how she used to do competitions for scholarship money about the constitution. And it's really it made me cry. It really did. It was really because you know, it's um it's a it's not a perfect, it's not a perfect document and it's a breathing living document that we have to keep on thinking that it is.


Yeah. Mhm.


You need to like our president to know what it is instead of like being pulled an amendment that he keeps repeating over and over and over again, really not knowing what it means.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we talked a lot and like my politics classes about how the framers are like the founders of the constitution, Like they intentionally wrote it so that it was ambiguous so that it could change because like the american people change in society changes like the time as it should.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah mm.


And so like to have someone in office who just so blatantly disrespects that document is just really disheartening honestly. Um it's scary to me like the this is the state of our political system right now, but like, I don't know, I've been doing a lot of work with like the, uh, voter registration and stuff on my campus and I was doing some work with my mayor's office over the summer to try to increase the voter turnout.


Oh. Uh huh.


And so there is some hope there, I guess, but it's still really tough to watch, I think, and especially when we're so overly saturated with news and like, it's just always like, you're always hearing about it, you're always listening to it.


Mhm.


Like. Yeah.


And things sneak by view because there's so much you know, you know trump is really good at that friday night uh sneak around to Du puy and I'm like I'm watching you trump.


Yeah. Yeah. Well, you have to, it's it's good that people are, there's people like you that are vigilant and like people that are really like listening and understanding because like, you're right, like stuff definitely can't slip by, especially because there's so much of it. Like, honestly, if you don't have the privilege like to have the time I think to be politically engaged and like to listen. And like, we think this is a lot of people done, a lot of people are work a lot or they might have like a lot of kids to take care of. And so it's like some people just don't have the time or the privilege to be politically engaged I think, which is something we take advantage of sometimes for. Like it's really important to be paying attention because this is historical. Like we're going to have to tell our kids about this one day. Like we lived through this and it's going to be crazy to look back on but like you're totally right. It's important to be paying attention right now.


Yeah. You know how is on mail in voting going in Tennessee? Is that how you see it going? Well? Because you know there's I've heard news reports of like other places like pennsylvania in one place, they're rejecting 90% of these uh ballots because at the primary people checked, I want to be automatically uh enrolled monday when and asked for another ballot so that the flag them.


Yeah. Yeah.


So there's like just 90 percentile right now that I have to now go and vote in person because they screwed up.


Well and I mean that's, wow, it's so frustrating.


Like working with the working with, it's called Swanee votes the organization that I'm working with like learning all the ins and outs of voting.


Right. Oh.


Like just help difficult. It is is really, it's frustrating because like, and then you look at like other like democratically progressive countries and like other like really any other like developed country and that's not politically correct state about like and any other like industrialized country I'll say like they're voting process is not this difficult and like the amount of voters especially I don't know if you read the um I think it was in California that people were like putting out fake ballot boxes and like let's like the amount of voters a question that's going on right now is so insane like so to answer your question, I'm not sure about Tennessee's meal and voting but for Arkansas I think that our for like my precinct it's going pretty well.


Oh mm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


I know that a lot of my friends like from George I think it was Georgia and texas but like they have this new requirement now where you have to have um yeah witness like sign your ballot and they were like we didn't even know this was like a requirement but I guess it like I guess we have to have someone like watch over our shoulder like find this now and like it's just it's insane and I'm hoping that people can still find a way to vote safely like have their vote counted but out.


Oh yeah when was yes. Right. Why? I just don't you know it's so scary watching and but it shows how dedicated people when they're standing in line for hours and hours to vote you and me, I mean I couldn't imagine doing that, you know I've never had to do that.


I mailed and voted this year yes and explained spirit and you get an email confirmation saying that they received it and it's accounted I mean it was so nice, it was like easy and Yeah wow.


Really? I think. Mhm. Yeah. Uh I mean I give you some closure on it and I mean even with like with voting in person, I feel like this year we thought this idiot in office, it's like encouraging people to like go to the, go to precincts and intimidate voters. And so like even if you're not waiting in line for six hours like people are in Georgia right now like you might have like, people literally with a ar fifteen's out in front of like, well because that's what's happened before and like mm Yeah.


Right. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. We know what happened in michigan when they stormed the capital with uh you know in and nothing was you know you know the the attorney general did nothing about that but you know you you you protest peacefully you can get air guns or something. You know, it's like so so I had to turn off facebook for now because I just can't I can't correct people anymore.


Yeah.


And I'm because I will never make them change because they they're just implied bias.


That happens with people where you like this candidate, you put all your put everything into this candidate or this party, you're blindsided by everything else because you don't you don't want that to be true.


Mhm. Yeah, I mean it becomes part of like your identity and so it's like ingrained in our psyche.


Okay.


I think like the I think partisanship is like so intense right now.


It's just hard. I mean it's hard people to be corrected about anything because like this human nature I think I just want to be right about stuff, but like with this it's more of a pride thing than a factual thing, which is really, really that is not good at all.


World. Oh no, right.


People like will ignore the facts just to be right, you know what I mean? Like Yeah, let me keep it.


And I couldn't I kept on ringing, show me the article. I'm like, I'm like, okay, you want me to fact check for you didn't know before you put something out. Don't go well, I don't know if this is true or not and post this article, You don't do that because people are not going take care if it's true or not, they're going to read it and they're going to think it's true.


Yeah. Yeah, it's frustrating, it's so frustrating to talk about.


You know, I hope I really hope so.


But I mean hopefully things get better next term, fingers crossed. Yeah, I think he's gonna think joe biden's got a good shot at winning.


Yeah. You know, I stayed what?


Um And what's at at this point like this? Because this is my first time voting. I turned thank you. I just turned up, they should be able to go. And um what's sad is like for me it feels like less of a vote for biden than against trump if that makes sense. Like biden is not by any means my favorite candidate, like in the Democratic, I mean I like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and like biden just feels like I'm settling almost.


Okay. Oh, I'm you have to share a way to change that in your mind sets because because you know, voting is so important.


And so that's kind of sad to me that like my vote isn't even going towards something that's going against something you know that smells really negative. I don't know. And Yeah.


Voting is uh you know, I mean, I have friends who don't vote and they mean like why don't you go, well, you know, there you know, it's a democratic state anyway. So they're like but still you need to vote, this is our rights.


Yeah.


You know, and uh you know, I mean, you know, people fought for this right to vote and uh and and you you have to do it. You really need to do it. And and I don't get indignant about many things, but if you don't vote, I will be on your case forever.


Hey, Well I'm glad there's people like you and me that care about voting because the more people that care about voting, the more other people of them.


Yeah, I know and that more than things you know I don't care if you vote for trump as long as you voted you voted.


Oh yeah.


You know I I really think that but please don't don't don't don't vote for him.


Yeah. Sweet. Don't one.


We beg you. Hi.


It was really nice to talk to you.


Oh my God. Who is the best time? I think you I I you know like I said I did this three times before and it was no one. So I got like a dollar 50 for doing nothing.


Oh no. 9 $15 like that's awesome.


I know. I mean for prolific it was like yeah well we have a great rest of your semester and then you will change the world.


Yeah. You too. I wish you and your husband the best.


Okay.


Okay. Thank you God has to talk to you morning.


Okay. The prize.


Okay. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mm. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Oh right. Yeah. Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh mm. Yeah. But Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who? Yes. Yeah. No. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Uh huh Uh huh. Oh okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh, but yeah. Yeah. Uh huh Uh huh. What? Oh Oh yeah, mm. But yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh yeah. But but yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. No. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh six. Okay. Oh, Group what? Mhm mm. Okay. But yeah. Thanks and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. And right. Okay. Yeah.


mm hmm. Whoa, hi, how are you doing?


Hi. Yeah. How are you?


Uh it's been a long week. What was it Tuesday already? It feels like a really long week.


I know did you have trouble getting in?


Um uh no, not really. Um, I had something that I had to like take care of. So I was running a little bit late. Sorry about that.


No, that's okay.


Uh Good thing you waited actually because I think they give you like five minutes or something. But yeah, was running a little bit more.


You know, I was a tiny bit late um originally new york.


Where are you from?


So um but now I live in north Carolina. Good amount of time. But sometimes I still feel like I'm getting used to the culture down here because being from up north and then coming down to the south is um Yeah, it takes some adjusting. What about you?


I live in michigan. I've lived in michigan my whole life so I don't really get a whole lot of experience. I went to new york um, last year with my sister though, we went to Long Island for an event.


Nice.


We actually a pretty good time. It was pretty cool out there. Um, definitely a pretty interesting area, but we never really went anywhere outside of that unfortunately.


No, it's ok. Long Island is where I used to live. And did you notice any any difference in the driving or anything?


Mm. Um no, the driving honestly, something better out there honestly, even though it was really like, the drivers seem to be, you know, more like precautious.


Okay, wow.


Um, we have like some of the worst drivers over, like I actually just got into a car accident last week. Like I got hit hard by someone. Yeah, they have really bad drivers over. I've been in like three car accidents and I'm only 25 years old. Uh yeah. People just don't pay attention out there. They don't care.


Living with the lockdown and everything, there must be their cars.


Oh no, we're, yeah, we're in a lockdown. People are still going out for like food and whatnot though. It's, it's not like total lockdown and still leave your house.


Yeah, we they're going to start opening up here and I live in the Valley Durham area, so um they said they're going to start relaxing things I think the eighth.


We got extended I think until the end of May or so.


So the end of this week, we'll see what that looks like.


Ryan.


They have me working from home. I work as um I work in the public school system, so that's been interesting trying to work from home with no kids.


Oh yeah.


Mhm. Mhm Yeah, it's been strange.


Yeah. I'm working from home as well. I'm a freelancer so I'm able to work from home as long as I have my laptop. So it is not really that many like new adjustments for me. Really.


I'm used to being around the kids all day, but it's it's fine, you know, I'm still getting paid, so uh I'm not going to complain to, MMA Right, right, right.


Right. It's better than nothing I guess right.


Some people are losing their jobs and you know?


Yeah unemployment at 25% rate I heard.


Uh huh.


Yeah. It's crazy. Highest since the Great Depression.


Okay. I know, I haven't been out much and eight.


Yeah. Me neither just for food that that's it really haven't really been offered anything else.


Oh yeah, my um my parents obviously, I mean I'm 50 so my parents are elderly, they live close by, but they just go out, they don't even think anything of it and I'm like uh you're supposed to be home, uh they're worried, but when it when it affects them and they have to do certain rules.


No wow wow. They're not worried about it. Mhm.


No, my mother told me about a cute vest that she bought the other day, a cute vest and I'm like, I don't think you're supposed to be out looking for vests and closed, but she was just like calm about it and it's weird too.


Right.


Parents? Your parents? Oh.


Yeah.


Mhm.


Strange. I guess they figured you know they're going to live their life by by their terms.


Yeah, nothing's going to happen. I don't know. My father does not wear a mask at all and we'll see. Right.


Yeah. It's definitely crazy on that anyone would have never first seen some sort of virus trapping everybody in their house.


I know. Yeah. She said you do freelance work. What type of work?


Um I do like a lot of like computer repair work and just a lot of stuff related to like tech and like fixing tech and I do like a lot of like writing as well like on the side when I have like some private clients like I do some work for you know a lot of text them or celery little text me and say hey you know we want this or want that or something. It's alright really? I like it because it's on my own terms. Um Working a traditional job is a bit harder for me. I have some health problems in this teenage, I have gassed creases which is like a girl and girl and girl and condition so it's like very hard for me like if I were to traditional job and I'm having a bad flare up, I'm going to get fired.


So uh this is definitely like the best outcome I can get to, you know, work kind on my own terms.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I could I could picture people are sympathetic to a point and then they'll be like, oh again, you know where we're going through this again?


The pathetic to the point where you cost them money that then it's like all right, you're getting rid of.


Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. My um my husband does desktop support and they've let him work from home, but today he's in the office because certain things with hardware, they're still hiring where he works and you know, so he's got to go in actually physically and get the new computers set up for the people.


Oh wow.


Yeah. So is it similar desktop support with what you do or? No.


Um It really varies like I fixed phones, I fixed like you know laptop issues, people are having it. It really just varies like I just listen to you know what the client tells me they need help with and then you know if I'm able to help them with that you know what we talk forward from there where I.


So um I know just personally from what my husband's gone through desktop support, it's like this client that client back and he's got so many W. Two is coming in around tax time and we've had to fill out papers for you know like let's say mortgage or refinancing and they the more the banks they don't get it you know they say how many jobs did you have? Like this is how it is with I. T. Sometimes you jump like you're jumping but you're not it's just different clients.


Yeah I think um the world still not really to like accustomed to um like to get a good economy I guess they call it I suppose.


Um Because I kind of ran around that as well um Like I did my taxes a few weeks ago I supposed to do that on March but um it got pushed back because of the whole virus and uh yeah they were asking questions like that as well. Like why do you have all these W. Two S and whatnot? And we have them to like explain it all.


Mom.


What not. Um. Yeah. Not really that big. Just you know crossing my tease dye in my eyes.


Yeah. Yeah. No it's just weird to be questioned when this is just this is just our way of life and sometimes the project is six weeks and sometimes it's knock wood now he's got something for a year supposedly.


Yeah it is paid for sporadic for him because um I'm gonna pay will be sporadic for me as well like um like some months it will be a little bit drier, I'm not going to make much and then some months will be like really excellent and I'll make a good amount.


So I prayed last that long and yes. Yeah. Mhm. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Plus he just signed with a temp agency so the temp agency partners with the the place physically where he's working but then it's really through IBM and it's so confusing. But when he signed on with the temp agency and he's looking over the documents, they quoted him one rate per hour and he looked at the paperwork and it was down to the, to like a lower rate.


Okay.


So it's like you have to be so careful and they were trying to pull one over on him.


Yeah, that makes sense.


Yeah.


Yeah. In this day and age. Yeah, I could definitely see them trying to do that. I mean everyone is trying to save a penny nickel in chains and they can get really cutthroat out there, right?


Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean he had to look out for himself and then he's, you know, like, hey, you said this much an hour and they're like, oh, okay.


Yeah, but they weren't going to say anything until he caught them and uh yeah, definitely people take advantage of, you have to get an opportunity to for sure.


Yeah, yeah, scary. Yeah. And definitely no overtime. So you know, we can't, can't really get ahead. So yeah. But, and they don't have me working in the summers obviously. So, mm hmm.


Mhm. Yeah, that's kind of an added benefit there then I guess, right? You don't have to worry about working anyway because you don't work that time anyway.


It's almost junior everyone when the school stopped june or something.


Mm.


He's been a while.


Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, in north Carolina, it's different than, let's say new york or anywhere else.


Um, Yeah, so we'll stop probably june 9th or so.


Well that sounds about right. That's what I would have. It's usually like the second week of june I want to say is usually when they get out of school so that seems a borrowing.


Yeah. So I guess years ago, yeah, when I went to school it was september, we would start of june middle june. We would stop. Yeah. Mm Yeah.


Yeah. So um interesting. You're obviously pretty text heavy like you were able to find, you know, sites like this and why not to kind of supplement like your income a little bit like how'd you don't find in these kind of sites?


Um wow, prolific has been pretty good. I mean I've got like, I don't know, almost $75 built up.


Uh huh.


Um, but now that I'm home even better, I could just keep prolific open and grab whatever.


Yeah, they just keep it simple. Yeah, I was doing that yesterday probably felt easy like five or £6 off of it. Yeah, there has been pretty good. I noticed since like they changed the dot co like lot of the researchers are paying a lot more. Like I I won yesterday I think it was like a pound 90 for like seven minutes to read some articles like, man, it's fine by me. Easy money.


Yeah.


I'm saying my computer anyway, I'm always on my computer, so I just, you know, run two tabs side by side and split the screen, so it's not hurt me any at all.


You know, it's a, but it's worth it. I tried getting my son into it too. He's 21. Um, and I'm like checking.


Oh, really? A lot.


I find like a lot of like younger, younger dogs. Um I don't know, maybe it's just like a social circle thing, but a lot of my friends are all into this, like we do like other things that we do, like turning as well. Um Yeah, we'll do like a lot of different uh different things.


Well I tried to in Turkey, I can't quite get, I do mturk but um, it's hit or miss, so.


We have, like we said, uh huh. I I never tried them. Target sounded way too complicated for me having a download a bunch of scripts. I I just wanted kind of, someone's like plug and play kind of, I'm not going to bother get a bunch of scripts however, and I'm sure you gotta grind like a lot to even just get like paying stuff on there.


Yeah. Oh yeah, I know it's really slow going, but I've been on it since 2011 or so, so Yeah, but I don't do as well as others.


All right. Oh, so you can do this very long.


Yeah, but which one?


You ever done swag bucks or anything that's like one of the most known ones. Swag box is like one of the original get paid two sides, awful.


Yeah, I've had a hard time with that because of the offers. You know, it's like I don't want to try, you know, all a lawn care service and then I forget to turn it. Just stop it.


Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.


Yeah, mm.


Yeah, I I do the offers. Um I just put a reminder in the calendar, like google calendar. I just put a reminder and say cancelled by this day or so, so those are real simple and painless.


I'm just afraid that if I go to cancel to give me a hard time, I don't know.


Yeah, that's understandable.


One more thing two argument.


Yeah. Yeah. You gotta definitely trust the company like it. If I see like a hula off for Disney Plus or something. I mean those are credible companies, but if I see like a, like a shadier service or something, I'm going to skip it. But they've been pretty good to me actually. I got about 100 and $50 off of them. I had $100 like zoom chat from them, which is pretty cool just to talk about social media, so you know, that's nice and easy to just not getting easy stuff like that.


Well I've also gone to the in Raleigh, which is maybe 10 miles from here. They've had focus groups so important.


Oh no, down into that as well.


Yeah, those are not too bad. We had one on drones. I was the only I was the only liberal in there because they set it up, you know, hardcore republican, hardcore liberally. And yeah, it was the weirdest thing because I'm like the only person like not wanting people to get randomly killed by drones, they're looking at me like, well, it's the price of war.


Yeah, there are different views for sure. Yeah.


It was crazy, but I need the money, right?


Oh, really hard. Yeah, they were hardcore. I think they're just saying, yeah, you know, whatever killed him. That's a perfect crazy well wow, you've done a couple of them.


It was a little cold, but you know, I got the money. Another one was a roach spray. It was fun.


Nice. Yeah, I only got in a one focus group two months ago. Um they were just talking about like some like service, they want to like launch or something for like two hours or so. Um They were hosting an online resume so it was like you can see like five different people or something. I've never gotten any in person focus groups. I was found that like their demographics are like so specific.


I thought they would like, you know, you said you're 25. I thought they would snatch you up.


Yeah. Uh I don't know, I think it's like my job costing me in that regard um That they don't really seem to um favored too much of people like in the gig economy they want to talk to someone that has you know more of like a typical lifestyle where the like full time employed like at an office somewhere or something. Um I think that's definitely something they probably don't really care for too much for some reason. I'm not really sure why. I don't know if it's like the work is frowned upon or something. I mean there's a lot of people that are like, you know the work is crap and what not, they don't like it because you know it wasn't available in the third time so they think it's weird, but I mean we're seeing a new age anyway plus like people are doing this kind of stuff, hang away because everyone's got a side hustle, there's everything so expensive.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Are you in like a suburban area or sitting?


Um Yeah, yeah, it's kind of just small town. Um I'm about like 10 15 miles off from Detroit, that's probably the biggest city near me.


Did you go to the city a lot or Detroit a lot or not really?


Not too much just for like events. Like I went to a Smackdown out there before like the lockdown, I think it was like um december january or something in the joe louis arena. But yeah, I don't really go out there too much.


Hold the oh, the wrestling because my my son and my husband watched that.


Yeah, the wrestling me, I've been walking since I was a kid.


Mhm.


Pretty much so um Yeah, Yeah, they're still doing them.


Yeah. Isn't that the funniest thing they showed me? Uh no crowd and they're still doing their events? Is the weirdest thing.


Yeah, because I watch him every monday and friday.


Yeah.


Uh It's something um Yeah, I mean he got lucky. He owns that arena I guess and they can close them down, but it's definitely, I mean, I'm kind of grateful that it is still open. It's given me something to do. Given a lottery.


What about the uh do you check out a w or now we're also speaking of Jeff hardy?


No, I've kind of wanted to, I've heard great things about it. I know they got some talent on there that was like from WB and kind of went over there and I heard like talks like Jeff hardy was going to go over there or something and they're trying to keep that. W I might check it out. Some pampered really good things about it.


His brother matt person wasn't christian, He's asleep. Um No, no no my sudden he worked at Mcdonald's for a while and he matt hardy came through his line through the drive through.


Oh wow, that's great.


Mhm. Yeah and he recognized that he took a picture and yeah that's pretty sexy now I just came through and he's like oh he got a cheeseburger and I'm looking and I'm looking for half a and I know my son has pictures with biggie and uh that guy, the announcer um because he just he just puts himself out there, my son, he doesn't care, you know, he's like hey what's up?


Nine. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot to live there. I was thinking um south Carolina for some reason, I forgot the hard. Mhm. Yeah. 100 has gone.


I wouldn't be I wouldn't want to bother them. Yes.


Did he? Um Like we're a lot of the meetings with those people like spontaneous, like he didn't intend to meet them, he kind of just was at the right place at the right time or did you go like that's cool.


You know he was at one of those Mac, he was at one of their events um in Raleigh and they were trying to get back to the car and got lost and biggie was coming out in the back and you just got the pictures.


Nothing wrong with that.


Yeah but the drive through that was random. I don't know there.


Yeah. Just random. My guys, I mean you know, they're, they're normal people as well, you know, they're gonna go eat I guess so someone got can't sing them.


Yeah wow.


Yeah, I met them over the years. I'm not Mick foley awhile ago. I'm not stone cold during the stereo Christy Hammett. I met a lot of like the older people else. No, I met him, remember trying to think of the top of my head, awesome. I'm not a pretty good amount of them drag valentine about him is pretty nice. Um Batista, I met him and john cena I've met a lot of guys because it just hasn't really aligned uh well with me, like I've always, it's always end up, oh I'm busy or I can't go or it's not in michigan or something, it was not really traveling too much.


Oh yeah.


So it kind of put me and limited opportunities.


Also the arena is not too far from where you are.


No, it's not too far about like 10 miles or so, it's not too far.


I do. Uh huh. Yeah same here.


I was actually go back out there on March 13th but um they canceled that, that was when they drew the line and they're like, you know, we're done, we're doing the no audience that you know from that point going forward, I was really just point because Jeff hardy was going to return, he's going to be there and he's one of my favorites. So I was like damn, it didn't get to see Jeff Hardy, you know? All right, not gonna see him again now because you know, I got to get all those stars, the line and whatnot.


Yeah. Mhm mhm mhm.


You know me to be able to attend there and then you know for him to be there. It didn't work out unfortunately.


You know I just went to one it was exciting but I don't really follow any of that but I got dragged along my husband and son and I ended up clapping for the wrong, through the wrong people.


Yeah.


I don't know.


Oh really?


Yeah I think he was back then.


They don't like, hey, you know these are our favorites or something for them.


Yeah it was crazy. It was bray Wyatt came out and I'm clapping but you know he was back when he was with the you know the light the fireflies. I'm the only one clapping. It was weird. Yeah.


I was that that was pretty recent then because that firefly gimmicks relatively new. Maybe like a year old or some of them.


Mhm mm It was longer than that when I went and but now what is he the fiend or the sound like some, yeah.


Yeah. The thing yeah, I saw him come out. It was pretty interesting. It came out of the arena was like pure red. Uh It looked cool. I just like like the lining like aesthetics behind it.


Yeah. Could you imagine being there?


Yeah, definitely. Pretty interesting.


Well once my son and husband went to the monday night and um so I was watching it at home and I'm trying to see them ridiculous.


Right?


I know um But no because you know we can never afford like the $300 seats so I never did get to see them on on the screen.


I am yeah, I was at a point about that to uh for the March of it.


Mhm wow.


I had good seats like I don't know, I either just snagged him at a good price like I was going to be on the first floor, I was only like seven worlds up or something. Like I have good seats. I was telling my sister like man you might see me on tv or something because like I I stick out like I'm telling skinny so like all I have to bring is like a sign or something and like I'd be pretty cool well but yeah, didn't didn't work out unfortunately.


Yeah.


Um Mhm.


Uh huh. Yeah you have to jump on those tickets though or else you'll wind up me if you get by the floor. I saw it I saw it with my own eyes. $300. So no thanks.


Oh yeah. Heard the ringside like to sit by the barricade. Yeah, I can't afford that either so uh Yeah that's unfortunate.


Yeah bob.


Um Yeah, I've seen them from like the pay per views like 1200 for the pay per view like to wrestle mania to go sit there, it's like $1,202,000 when saying it's like wow, people can afford them.


Oh no yeah no no I like my money too much.


I mean, I guess they can obviously because you seem filled right well, in my case, it's more like, I don't have that much disposable income to put towards something like that.


Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah. Well it's almost the 24 it's almost 25 minutes.


Let me see. Uh we're starting at 12 08 So.


Okay. Well, yeah, that's about 23 minutes or so.


Uh huh.


It's getting down about that pretty much.


Look well no, I don't want to write off too early.


Okay. Exactly what they say this, there was one out there um the requesters name was Gabriella something and I think she was requesting a webcam and I just kept do not, you know, like declining it because I mean I have it.


Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I know what you mean. You ever done like one of these? I'm prolific. I've never seen one like this before. Like I correct. That was like, wow, that's interesting. I've never seen something like that.


I have the webcam and everything, but I just didn't feel like uh huh.


Okay. Yeah, I would've hopped on these.


Yeah, I've never seen that.


I think they use the money. Um I usually do a lot of like the audio, like inscribing ones. Like I just want to have fun. Don't say oh, you know what words do you hear? Like those are, those are so easy. Yeah. Yeah. They usually pay pretty well too. I mean they last for a while. They usually last for like 40 minutes to 60 minutes or something like seven or £8. You'll just listen to audio through your headphones. They have a really good pair of headphones. Um, so yeah, I just, you know, listen to the audio and they'll say, you know, press this key if you hear this word or press this, keep hear that word.


Mm No.


Um, I'm really sure what the testing, honestly. But um yeah, it's easy to do. I've always been paid for them. The researcher pays really quick to for them. Usually usually pays like next day or so. So it's nice.


Mm No, I don't know about that one. Um comfort you.


They get connect up pretty quick.


Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing to you got to grab it and it's it's gone.


The popular. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.


Mhm mm hmm.


I've seen some get crabs like instantly. It's like, I've wondered at some point it's like people have like automated programs or something. They grab him so quick. Like I literally see that one like pop up tab over and it's gone somehow. It's like, how is that possible? Unless it's like a connection thing or something. I mean it's a UK company. So I would imagine like, you know, anyone in europe probably kind of first grabs, you know, just probably lagging the server or something. Uh, that's kind of what I always thought, especially if I've seen it go away within seconds. I'm like, I don't think it was clicking that fast.


Have you ever turned down any of them because they are too small or you just grab whatever?


Um Yeah, yeah, I've turned up turned something down. Like if I didn't think it was worth and then I've turned something down if I've got into them and then they've ended up lasting longer. I turned them down. Then I write like, you know, this one way off the estimate or something and prolific is usually pretty good about that anyway. Like they usually didn't give you something out of it. I've even sometimes they just gave me the payment, you know, said, hey, you know, we're sorry about that. The researchers should have been more specific about the time. So yeah, prolific, great customer support. Honestly, I think one of the best, like in, you know, this type of online were kind of filled. There's a lot of these other side doesn't blow you off. You contact them. It's like, oh, I didn't get paid too bad. So sad.


Yeah.


Like an academic side, like they look out for their users.


Yeah. And Turkey is really hit on that.


I think, I think they treat them pretty good too.


Yeah, I see myself staying with them.


Mm Well that's easy word. Plus you can, like you say, you know, you pick up ones that you want then if you don't want it, you don't get to pick it up. So you've really got nothing to lose.


Well, maybe that we've done this one. Maybe they'll, you know, will be considered more. I don't know.


Mhm Uh Yeah.


Maybe this is like a status thing. I don't know. Yeah.


And the screen it actually asked that is like would you want us to contact you again for future one? So I'm like yeah of course you're painting, you know $15 to go talk to someone. Yeah that's simple horizontally contacted again for that.


Yeah, I thought, I thought you weren't going to show, I'm like, oh well a dollar 50 I guess.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


Mhm.


I was I was worried honestly because um I missed my first one. Um I was going through so much like with the car accident just so much like overload stress and whatnot. Like I clicked like the window and then I just wasn't paying enough attention.


I closed it and I guess it didn't have any way to open it back up or something. So like I was like sitting there locked out. I mean I'm pretty decent computer so I'm trying like every like you know, technique. I know we tried to get back in there and it just like locked out. Pretty much. So yeah, I'm not as a research, I was like, man, I accidentally got locked out of the, out of the little chat window thing. Excellent. Closed. And yeah, they were super cool. But I'm like, yeah, cool. We were scheduling early. Oh, thanks. I mean, yeah, I really like that as well. Another side. We've been like, you know, we're going to punish you. You didn't show, wow right?


Yeah. No, no, you did look out. Yeah. Yeah, I mean things happen.


I mean, it kind of was a little bit of human error though, like accidentally took a little click. I mean, I think it's like a little small, like a little little X on like the side or something accidentally hated not paying enough attention. I'm usually pretty good on these kind of things.


Holy hands.


Like I do like using interviews and they literally so I'm usually pretty good on these live sessions and and what not. Like I do like a lot of like zoom chats and why not through those sites.


Yeah, I did one with a banking app or something and they're like, oh, can you get your family members to get in on it?


Uh huh Yeah.


And I'm like um short and then I just didn't, I didn't know I didn't follow up so I feel bad.


Here.


I mean they emailed me a couple of times and I'm like, I just left.


Yeah, that's fine. Because you never know because sometimes they ask a lot of like really personal questions that people don't really feel like answering.


Yeah, the bank thing was getting a little weird, so correct.


Yeah, I've seen some weird ones is like, oh we need you log into your mobile paying, it's like not worth it.


Mhm. Okay, go on. I would say go ahead. You're not going to see much.


Uh huh. Yeah, I guess I could have said that. I mean I have a whole lot in there either really at the time.


Yeah.


But yeah, it's probably not like dorsal out there.


Uh huh. Mhm.


I've seen some like insurance ones as well, so we want to see you log into your insurance or something. I remember I got into one or something, it was like a screen share and they wanted me to like show like stuff that I do on right or something. Uh That wasn't really too bad. Uh kind of something coins that was kind of like you know, hey can we not scroll down here? I brought some kind of wearing personal stuff out there. And uh in my experience, the researchers have always been like really cool about about it. You know, if you're not feeling comfortable with something that they're not going to push you, like they've always been you know, really uh just genuine, you know about stuff like that and they're not going to like, you know, make you feel uncomfortable and whatnot what?


Yeah. Yeah. No, at least it sounds like, yeah you put up those boundaries that's fine.


Yeah, I mean I don't want to get in there. The pay was good, they're paying uh $75 amazon for like an hour. So I definitely wanted to get in there like even if they were asking where stuff, I was like you know whatever like talk I put something that word online is like google has it all anyway. So at the end day is kind of like, what am I really losing? Right.


Yeah user interviews they've got good stuff but I just don't qualify. Um They got me for a plasma uh questionnaire once. Um And that was uh he was over the phone.


Yeah, I understand.


I don't think it was no it wasn't webcam, it was over the phone you know like would you be open to the you know donating and what would bring you in and I haven't done it but I give blood but that's about it.


Yeah. I probably pass on something like that. I I hate having needles and and what not.


Right.


Yeah, it's very uncomfortable. I probably passed on something like that. But yeah, user reviews have been pretty good to me. Um Like before this whole pandemic, like I was going to text from them like every week or something. I probably made at least like one or two K off of them this year. So they've been really good to me. But yeah, they've definitely been a quiet um now pretty much like I haven't heard much from them.


Nice.


It's because it's a competition. There's so many people on there now, like I got him on facebook and I seem like they're going up by the thousands and thousands like every week more and more people are finding them.


Mhm.


So you know it's just like the job market and I'm competing with more people now.


Uh huh. Yeah I think everybody is discovering online and take it home and we've been doing it for how long?


Yeah on your. Yeah.


Mm.


Yeah people are people are discovering them for sure because I mean unemployment shaft a lot a lot of people kind of a lot of people personally you know they just got shaft on unemployment so they're pretty much forced to try to find some sort of work at this point here that are there like okay we're gonna give you unemployment but we'll take you like two months to get paid man it's got two months worth of you know uh money covered for expensive on that got 200 you're living paycheck to paycheck.


Yeah. Yeah.


It's like these people forget that.


Yeah. No my my son yeah he's filing now for unemployment because they let them go at Mcdonald's what's he gonna do?


I hope you get.


Yeah. Yeah they're talking about 100 and 36 a week and whatever but they ask you.


But when he gets 100 from the federal though, because I know something personally, he's making more on unemployment than he is making at his job. So he was like, I hope my job stays closed like done is dead, like he's loved me, he's staying at home and he's getting like 2800 month or something and had his job from like 14.


Uh huh. I know well well they now they're questioning him and everything and you know they gotta go he's got to go through all those questions. But um no I put them on my door dash because I started doordash but they say they're not hiring door dash anymore so he and I have the same initials and same you know like my name is Christine, his name is christian so we put them on as chris and it's a good reminder for josh I don't care you know there's just a few bucks.


Okay. Yeah, I thought about doing uh doing doordash in the past, it seemed like it could be okay work, but um yeah with this whole stuff going on, I I don't know, you know, you would think they would need more drivers during this point now it's kind of interesting to say not hire more people, maybe it's a liability thing or something.


Yeah I mean they just flat out turned the noon. I mean uh no they kept saying complete your door dash application, finish up your email after email after email.


Oh wow, it's literally like that. Right, Right, wow.


So when he clicked it and they go oh we're not hiring anymore really? Yeah so it's fine he could go undermine you know I'm not out there.


Yeah.


I'm I have a job thankfully. And um you know I just do the side stuff here at home and let him you know.


Mhm. Well I think it's cool that you're able to do the side stuff, I mean I don't know, I've always been kind of intrigued by this, I remember checking this out a little bit when I was in high school and I was kind of a little bit of blurred into it, you know, I just kind of like the concept of making money online and you know, pulling in your Paypal or not or I don't know if you're familiar with that prepaid, like digital side, I think it's like prepaid digital solutions are not one hour the visas um and like where people used to put the visas on Bluebird, they won't get charged the fee and then Swift Swift like four or five months ago, got rid of that so people don't use Bluebird no more.


No. Oh I know. You know I had Bluebird no things and then I got hacked. It was bad.


Oh really? Got hacked, don't And yeah, they're service sucks.


Yeah. Yeah. And their customer service is I don't even want to that's not enough time.


I got locked out of my account for some reason and man, he was trying to get hold of them or run out and try to get that resolved.


Mm. Yeah. No exactly. For some reason they lock you for fun. I come to that conclusion and you want to use it.


Yeah. Things like it. Right?


I was at the supermarket and I had a big thing of groceries. I mean thankfully I was able to pay it and then I was zeroed out somebody and I think Ohio I don't ever know and the police are like oh it's nothing we can do.


They don't really handle something like that. Too hard and grace without being online, right?


No. Yeah cybercrimes. It's uh their their hands are tired they couldn't do anything.


Yeah. I wasn't even really using the bluebird card. Like I just had my wallet. I was mainly just using it to uh export those visas for free. So they probably got tired of that real quick because they weren't getting anything off me. They weren't they weren't hitting me with any fees or anything. I was literally using them is like a chauffeured, you know move my visas to my bank so they probably like that too much.


Yeah. Well it was easily transferable to your bank. That's the only good thing about that. But I don't even think I have anything.


Oh it was simple to do. Yeah. You know you come around I just sent through Paypal pay the dollar fee of 25.


Kind of sucks. But it's not the worst thing over if I'm buying some amazon, just literally reloaded, right?


All right. I think it's been 25.


Yeah. Yeah. We're good on time. For sure. Yeah. We could end it. Uh There is a good time talking to Christine.


Okay.


I hope everything works out for you. I hope everything works out for your son as well. Hopefully he gets his unemployment with tough times.


Mhm. Yeah you do yeah. Thanks for talking to me, yep.


Yeah. Thanks. Uh Take care. I guess. We just close the window out then.


So you already own.


No. Yeah.


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Okay and then hi uh there was something problem with my work camp.


Mhm. Hello? All right, I can't see you.


Uh Only mind that yeah I'm located in florida.


Mhm. Okay. So where are you located, California?


What are in from California?


Yeah.


Nice place.


Okay. Yeah. Uh you've been?


Uh So yeah I didn't get bit uh no I didn't ever been to California but I do will to do that I hope in the next few months No.


Mhm. I said you've been to California. Yeah. Right. Right. Study. Right, so that's nice. I've never been to florida myself.


One of my my youngest brother, he had a church in I think Fort Lauderdale.


Mhm. Oh that's great, florida is a nice place.


Yes.


You should uh come to visit sometimes.


Yeah. Oh yeah. I wouldn't become God will I plan on it? One of my friends, I have a few friends that go down there on the regular.


Mhm. Okay mm it's good.


Mm I have family in the south so I guess I could deal with it. You all you all have humidity.


Mhm.


We really don't have it.


Sleep yeah.


But it has been kind of hot lately the last two months or so. It's been out of here California, we can't have a steady temperature.


Mhm. So hello?


Excuse me. Go ahead.


Uh I was saying uh tell me something over to yourself uniform wow for now working.


Yes. What were you saying? Go ahead. Speak. Yeah. Oh man, I'm uh I'm 43. i uh do real estate. Okay. Um I'm from Los Angeles, I just moved to another city a few months ago, right around Kobe time. So I've been kind of stuck in the high desert right now, Apple Valley. This uh it's about like an hour to an hour and a half away from L. A. It just depends on what part of L. A. You're going to because Los Angeles is so so so large.


Okay you use the word.


It really depends on where you're going.


This is yeah that's right yeah I am currently in uh uh Hello uh I'm currently in Fort Lauderdale.


Yeah. So what city are you in? Yes, I'm here. Oh you are you're Fort Lauderdale to uh That's funny.


Uh I'm originally from here here from my book.


That's right, so where are you from originally? Mhm.


I'm here from the but yeah yeah.


Uh huh. On my bike, Mumbai Okay. That's in India. Right, okay.


Uh Sorry sorry I didn't say Mumbai I said I am here from my birth.


I still I still can't catch the country, I'm sorry.


Uh No that's not a big deal. The connection is kind of some leggy sounds coming like buzzy.


All right, okay. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so I guess it's somewhere in Asia, is it though?


Right.


Is it a Middle Eastern country?


All right. Uh No, I am from florida, United States.


Okay. I just see the accent.


Mhm.


I'm sorry. Yeah, the accent, that's all.


So where is your family from originally?


Uh My family is originally from Asia. The eastern Asia actually.


Uh huh. What country?


Uh The country is named Malaysia.


Oh, Malaysia. That's yeah. Okay, Malaysia.


Yeah, this they settle their at their age of nearly 24 or five. Then uh they made a job job here and they bought themselves their house.


Mhm. Right.


And now here we are having a full one of family.


Oh that's fine.


The family is great and the family is great.


So you have a big family here?


Mhm. Uh Not quite big but yeah.


Okay. Mhm, mm hmm.


Kind of uh my father, mother and I have a brother also and my own family as well.


My spouse. My child.


Okay, that's fine.


Okay. Yeah.


Yeah, I don't have any I'm not married, I don't have any kids.


Uh As much as I think you should actually you actually should uh having having kids are fun.


Yeah. Yeah.


Actually the make a you will.


Yeah. I just got to meet the right person. This is letting me do it.


You will. Yeah, you will.


Yeah, I just got to meet the right person. So yeah. So yeah, when whenever that comes in, yeah. You know, come along just I know my family is like very upset because yeah.


Yeah. Mhm.


Super mom.


Uh Yeah, actually it is my phone just drying up.


Okay. Right.


No, no, no, no, it is just hanging out.


Uh Yeah, it's noise.


Yeah. That's good. You have a big family, I have a pretty big family too.


Yeah.


I have, My mother's side is in L.


Oh.


A. And my father's side is in Nashville Tennessee.


Mhm, wow. So, uh who are you currently living with?


Oh I just moved so I'm staying with my uncle for now.


Okay.


But when I came I tried to buy a house but well I really kind of been like uh how you say uh because I've been kind of slack on my business because the real estate market is overheated, I'm an investor, I'm not a flipper, I don't do you know, buying flip and things like that.


Mhm. Yeah, man. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So the last house I was trying to buy, it got bought out from me Because the real estate, it's like a bubble, like I was in 2008 like everything is uh is overpriced.


So uh it's not really necessarily a question if you can afford something or not but it's more so a question of the actual value you'll be paying, you know what I mean?


Mhm. Okay. Uh huh. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.


It's kind of like, it's kind of like it's kind of like if you go to a grocery store at noon every day and All of the food is 30-40% higher, But if you just wait till 7:00 it would be the normal, you know to drop by 30 or 40%, you know what I mean?


So you don't want to over pay for something now, that would be worth something less later.


Right. Yeah.


So yeah so I just take my time and find me find me analysis because it's more affordable up here where I'm at.


Yeah. Absolutely. Really ready. Right.


So a lot of people moving from Los Angeles um You know I think up here is kind of like florida prices more or less.


Yeah. Little living world.


Like even though it's a suburb, It's kind of it's kind of like Florida, like you can get a nice house for like three or 400,000 in a real nice house.


Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Uh No, I'm currently living in a great house, houses to flex having fun in my family.


Yeah.


That is great, awesome.


Yeah, mm.


There has been, it's big enough for me actually.


So how big is it?


It's two floored uh every floor has four bedrooms, every bedroom has a dedicated bathroom and the kitchen is huge as well.


Mhm, mm.


So it's perfect for me and my family.


Right, right, okay.


Well, yeah.


Yeah. So uh so how many kids do you have?


Mhm. Only 1 1 boy.


01 Boy, How It Is?


Yeah. Yeah. Here, starting now. How routine?


He's held okay. All right, yeah, so that's that's that's fine.


Yeah. Right.


So yeah, so the places do a lot of the houses there, do they sell nice plots of land?


Yeah.


Like how big the yard usually be like in Fort Lauderdale?


Oh, Uh if sexually, um about 4000 square feet or something.


Mhm. Well the yard, okay, they're kind of small and I guess that's a nice size in a sense, that's the only thing about here, up here in the high desert.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


They give you, well, depending on which city you go to the the city, I mean they give you like majority of the houses have an acre.


Yeah. Yeah. Tom uh Yeah.


Yeah, yeah.


Yeah. That's absolutely right.


You know, majority of have an acre and a majority of, a lot of more zone for horses.


It's tough. What happened? Mhm. Mhm.


So some people have worked perfectly.


Yeah. You like horses?


Yeah. Or gold. Uh Oh, I've written when I was young but I haven't, no, I haven't uh I haven't written them, you know, been a very, very long time. But I like animals period. The only thing I don't like about here is all the dirt is like you can have this city. They, I think they charge a lot for water. So a lot of people let their grass go if you go to another city like victor ville.


Okay.


Some of those, a lot of those homes have grass, you know, it's just too much dirt. That's what I don't like. Like if it gets all over your cars, everything, the desert.


You know, it's the desert, but it's, it's beautiful though. The mountains and everything. It's very, very nice. No, it's very, very, it is very, very scenic and you know, things like that.


Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah. So it's still still hot in florida right now. Right.


Yeah. It's uh it's still hard. Not very much, but kind of.


Right.


So how is the effect of COVID-19 at your place?


Is it, is it, how does he expect? How is the word?


How is the effect of COVID-19 at your place?


Uh huh. It's uh uh you know, everything is shut down but slowly trying to open back up.


Yeah. Mhm.


Uh Some people aren't working, some people haven't uh you know, it's uh it's made it, I don't know people, it seems like people want to get out and do things more.


What? Yeah.


It's affected things or somebody they're hurting. You know, some businesses are hurting uh, you know, everybody sees it differently or whatever. I just wish we would have, I wish the governor wouldn't have open so sooner. I think we would be at a better point right now. But it seems like it's recovery I guess.


Yes, that's right at my place.


Oh, uh huh.