six I so it's like a bulkier camera but I'm still learning how to use it so.


Mhm. That's awesome.


Yeah so.


So I've always been curious about like, okay, commit. Is it? It's still like digital rights. You still like saved.


Yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's called a DSLR so it's still very much a digital camera.


Like I have no nothing before photography. So what? Mhm.


Um and like it's kind of waterproof but you shouldn't really get it wet um And it looks pretty archaic I would say.


Mhm.


But it definitely with like the proper skill you can take much better pictures than like the latest iphone.


Yeah. Yeah.


So uh Yeah mm.


So what's like, it was like the advantage was like something you can do with the camera that you can do with an iphone so I can picture is pretty good in my pants.


Yeah. Yeah I've seen pictures but I found iphone pictures tend to be um flatter I guess like you still have like portrait mode but it's uh you can't really make the contrast as like nice.


Whereas like with like um um with like uh DSLR you can take like either really detailed pictures with like the background almost like a like a watercolor which is very nice.


Uh It's really cool.


Um And then there's like yeah and then there's other aspects of it, were you like where you can definitely take pictures of things in motion like very very clearly.


Okay. Thank you.


Um which the iphone doesn't really capture like for example like water splashing, like you can see like the individual drop that's like very um so I guess it's just more precise I guess.


Yeah, I see. Uh It's believed cool.


Yeah I would say.


How long have you been um doing photography?


Mhm. Yeah not long at all actually, it's only probably been like a month or two on and off, so I'm still learning um So I can't really tell you much about it unfortunately.


Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Well happen like now it's like feel like the perfect time they want to like, I don't like get back in touch with copies.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


Like, like, like everyone just, you know, like baking bread.


Yes.


Like, like I have one friend, it's just like, like make to love of bread two weeks and I keep bringing it over to my house is like, make me try it.


Oh wow.


Just like, I don't I don't like that unless, but it's just like, it's great.


Mhm. That's funny. Oh you should have told her.


Just like, like just eat it very slowly because you just can't get too much away at that time. Uh Yeah.


Uh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really like bread either, it's too like a soup plan. Thank you.


Yeah, that's true.


Uh Yeah.


Yeah. It's just like rice better. But because we're asian.


Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. Me too.


Yeah.


You Yeah, that's great.


Asian, definitely.


Remember back home from hundreds foolish reasons.


Eat rice with soy sauce. It's like it's like too lazy to go because you know, like it tastes good enough.


Oh yeah.


Um Right.


Yeah. Yeah. I have a friend that ate rice with salt sometimes when she didn't have like anything else.


Right.


Yeah, and that was really funny.


Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.


Yeah. What's your favorite food?


Yeah. I fear food has a hard question. It's a lot. Um Yeah so I realized soup like a noodle soup a lot.


Oh, me too.


Yeah. So so this is their meat noodles of coal.


That's yeah.


Meanwhile it's like the translation is like why noodle? And it's like kind of like a province in Vietnam. It's not that popular here. It's not like we're like if I know. Yeah but it's like really good. Um It's like very tasty and love it.


Mhm. Okay. Oh, mm.


What matters is your favorite?


Yeah, I I um I really like far um but I guess I but I guess I just like like more Americanized for I would say because I don't really know what authentic for is like I haven't been to Vietnam.


Right? Is this great? Yeah. Mhm.


Um Yeah and I also really, yeah.


It's true. I was saying I'll go ahead.


Uh Yeah and I also really like like um um ramen but like not as much I would say because ramen, like it's like um it depends sometimes it's too too creamy for me.


Yeah. Yeah.


Um I feel like the broth is like too thick.


Uh Just true.


Yeah.


Uh Yeah I was gonna say like uh I had some failures like pretty authentic.


Mhm.


I understand anything.


True.


Any fun like that is kind of like in a postal it is uh state is probably like the authentic because because I feel like it means it's like a lift a lot.


Yeah. Come on. Okay. Okay. Mhm. Uh huh.


Um, yeah. And like even even if you know what it's like, it's like many ways you can cook it as long as you don't like the weird thing with it.


Oh, that's good. Mhm, mm hmm.


Like I don't know.


But she, isn't it?


Like sometimes, yeah, sometimes magazine would be like, oh, we make fun. We use clean lines that like the, the middle always like us.


Oh yeah. Oh yeah.


Like, like actually refers like the noodles. Like as long as you have a bronze in the noodle, you can call it fun.


Mm.


But like if you put pronunciation is like, no, that's terrible.


Yeah. Yeah, no, that makes sense.


And yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.


Yeah.


What? Obviously one of time it's kind of like to be in America is kind of like, yeah, it's really like an Irving.


Okay. Mm.


Um, I don't, uh, so I was actually gonna like go back to visit this summer like right before like the kinetic I was, I have to take the books like end of april and like I think beginning in january, my mom called me and told me I have to cancel because I think I always wanted to pay for starting and I really spent close to china um, cancer it luckily because then you know, everything blows up.


Yeah. Yeah. Do you do you know when you're going to like go back to Vietnam and see your family? Uh huh. Okay. Uh Uh huh.


I like um, yeah, now I just don't think it can come back until maybe like next year.


Yeah. Yeah.


Um, just yeah, because I don't wanna get stuff in Vietnam and like even if I come back, I have to quarantine for two weeks at least.


Next year. Uh Okay. That's bad. Yeah.


Can't like uh uh huh So I'm from the south, from a coaching main line from Saigon look.


Two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. What what part of Vietnam are you from? Uh huh. Okay. Cool. Cool. Yeah, I have I have a couple of friends who are from Saigon to Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of enemies like around this area, which is, which is nice.


I like it.


It's very nice. Yeah. I find um I found a lot of my Vietnamese friends like are really good at dancing so and yeah.


Uh huh. Mm hmm Yeah. Well we like that saying.


Yeah, it's nice.


Yeah, that system yeah.


I feel like, I feel like, I feel like whenever I see them dance I'm just like, wow, they're so good. How did they do that? And then like they make it look so easy but then when I try to do it it's like I don't know it just doesn't it just doesn't look great.


For dancing and this is really hard. Um I mean I'm probably not as good as your friend because I also just like a billionaire but yeah like that was like really good. I do you mean stance er at my school we have like a cup like to live.


Mhm.


Uh but yeah it's definitely definitely takes takes a lot of time cut. Just like everything. Uh huh Yeah I want to a little bit out for it so okay.


Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Do you watch any shows?


Uh huh I used to watch a live show, I watch a lot to come like you know like the office and like things are having like reference.


Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the Office.


Yeah. Yeah I see you just watch whatever like netflix recommend me most of the time. Fun. Especially now that we're staying home so much.


Uh huh. Yeah.


Okay.


Have you seen Black Mirror?


Oh yeah, looks like you're definitely smell.


Yeah I really like I think I think it's done now though, I don't know if they're released in another season mm Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty hard to film her. She said, I feel like I feel like the longer it goes on is this like I mean it's stupid and goodbye thing like like the latest season aren't as good as like the first few seasons. Um It's also like after a while it does get like a little bit repented like the concept is two different but you're not like like I like the same kind of like the kind of like get a relapse no leo season but it's still like amazing show.


It's still like probably like one of the best like netflix best show.


Yeah. Yeah I would say so too.


Yeah.


Yeah it's really good. Yeah.


Have you seen Russian Doll is also not netflix and it's like really good.


Yeah. Oh I haven't I haven't what what is it about?


Yeah so it's about this woman who dies on her birthday but then she has just like reset and she's just kind of relive the same day over and over again and she has to figure out why like she just kept dying on her birthday.


Oh okay and this is like and this is a series?


It's kind of interesting. Yeah, but it's pretty it's pretty short, I think I watched the entire thing was in one day.


Mhm.


Um Yeah, yeah, thanks.


Mhm. That's cool. Mhm.


Very good show. Um Yeah, everyone, yeah.


Yeah mm I feel like I've been so bored during quarantine it was like nothing else. Yeah. Yeah mm.


Um Mhm.


Okay.


Yeah, I saw my friend, but I kinda like an outdoor picnic, so we're like how far our outdoor last week, I was like the first time I've seen in three months, which is like, I mean we didn't call it sometimes, but it's like a long time.


Yeah. Mhm. Oh that's a long time. Yeah.


Well, Mhm.


Mhm definitely. I still think that's like quite long. Um I haven't seen anyone at work since March and it just feels like, I don't know, it just feels like it's not like some people, I just like don't even really remember anymore, like some people that that I haven't uh that I only met like once or twice.


Because Yeah.


Yeah.


Yeah, it must be.


Well, yeah, I was saying I was saying so I see the co worker a lot because I work in a lab, but like well like have like doing a schedule, we don't like we'll be at the same time, so yeah, I was just gonna call, go straight, What were you trying to say?


Are you? Yeah. No, go ahead. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh. Uh Oh, I was I was just saying um so like uh since you work in a lab, you did you like could you work remotely before um the pandemic?


Mhm. Um So before and then it almost like never work remotely um Mostly because I worked really close, a very close the words, I just have no reason to came in. Um at the beginning of the pandemic, I was working from home was kind of doing more like data analysis and just doing some other background research, but I think lungs massachusetts like pass.


Okay. Uh huh. Mm. Yeah.


So we have a face reopening. So um like non customers to this and more on essential side business get to open first.


Oh. Uh huh. Mm.


And that's when that's when I went back to work.


Yeah. Uh huh.


Uh do we know in face going? And now we have like more stuff um we open um which is great, but I hope we're not moving too fast.


Mhm. Uh Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, I hope so too, because my company is already in Phase three and that means like 50% capacity, which is a lot.


Yeah. To me, charlie.


Yeah. But yeah, I was gonna mention something earlier. You said your mechanical engineering, right?


Really?


And my sister is also a mechanical engineering.


That's awesome. Yeah. That's a bad thing to do.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but she's a she's a sophomore now, she's a junior actually, or she's going to be a junior.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a great discipline because um can you just like really go into almost anything uh with mechanical engineering actually, because everything needs a little bit, we can't go to work.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.


Yeah. Well, you see a company it's like at 50% or is it like Pennsylvania Open at 50 always?


Uh It's the company like building, so headquarters, like the headquarter building is in um Times Square, which is where I work.


Mhm.


Um and they they're at 50% capacity. Uh but but like that's but they still stress like working from home.


Yeah.


Um And also like I I feel like they can't force us to go back.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


Um If if we like if we feel uncomfortable with it, and also like some people live with like high risk, like like their parents are like their roommate as high risk um or just like might be hard for like for example me, I'm like in pennsylvania, so like driving over there would be like two hours or like 2.5 hours.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm.


So it'll be a long time.


Yeah. That's crazy.


Yeah. Yeah, I would imagine.


Yeah, it's just like not realistic.


Well imagine if you like, because it seems like so you didn't consult him or like it seems like it was just just like be able to let your mental work from home because, you know, it's not that physical, you know?


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it's nice that I am able to work from home and also like the work is lighter because I don't have to go to the client site which is nice. Um Like I feel like going to the clients that sometimes takes up like even more time and then like when I end up coming home sometimes it's like seven or like eight o'clock but like but like working at home you just like call the client or you just like email them and then um I mean I just like log off at five, it's like pretty nice.


Yeah. Yeah, I imagine.


Mm Yeah. But it also gets kind of like um kind of like lonely and boring because like you're always by yourself but but in the office you can definitely like grab lunch with someone or like grab coffee or like have like team team like lunches and stuff, which is nice.


Yeah, my company is trying to do kind of like, just like, it's almost like a happy hour, which is kind of like half, like an hour meeting, which is kinda like talk and like I'm like wait games together.


Yeah. Mhm mm mm.


She's pretty fun. Yeah. Help me you know?


Mhm.


As long because like half of the company does work from home because they do not like blackboard stuff.


Yeah. Yeah.


Um So so we are waste water treatment company will actually start up so it's like pretty small.


Uh What company was it again?


That's why you know we have fun things like just happy hour and stuff like that.


Okay. Mhm.


Yeah. It's also kind of like we're being a star up, you know?


That's cool.


Pandemic time slot of this.


Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah, no, I'm sure they'll do well though.


Yeah.


Um I think like a smaller company is also kind of nice because I feel like it's more personable, like you definitely like know everyone much like on a closer level than like a large company, so you know.


Oh that's true. Yeah. Yeah.


I really like to do I worked with so it's nice to like know them.


That's good. That's good. Yeah, that's good. So how many people do you live with currently?


Yeah. Oh I live with Briana housemaid because it's because his boss to everyone, we were like a huge number of housemates, we can afford rent here.


Oh. Uh huh.


Um Yeah, but they're really nice.


Uh huh. That's nice.


I am enjoying it.


Yeah, that's really nice. Are they like friends from college?


Yeah. I have friends from college.


That's good. Yeah, I think it's always nice uh like rooming with people that, you know um when I was when I was in the city, I was like with like random people and it like wasn't wasn't very great.


Mhm. Ah You have so much hair pandemic?


Yeah. Yeah. It's growing out because I mean I have short hair, so even even if it goes out really um I like cut my own hair like midway through a finally, is that still hot?


Yeah. Oh, that's good. I don't I don't know how to cut my own hair. Yeah.


Yeah, my hair is also getting really long too. Um Mhm.


Yeah.


Super long, right? Yeah, maybe after pandemic is over and cut my hair.


Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what it's really over.


Yeah. Yeah.


Uh huh Yeah, I want from china.


This do you work full time? Okay. Okay. Yeah, I I feel like um now that I'm at home, I I like I technically work full time, but I don't really like have uh work that takes up all my time. So I just kind of like I kind of grew up going prolific or like other websites um just do little things here and there.


Australia.


Mhm.


Yeah, so I mean I work full time, but we know last like three days a week and then two days to do more from home.


It's just like yeah, somehow I feel the same way just like just like do a bunch of color, a little busy work like well like Philip rhesus don't have that much stuff you can do from home and just I was just being home, my planning writing down, let's see like, like bullets, five bullets what I'm gonna do when I go into a lab.


Uh huh. Yeah.


What's that?


Right.


Yeah, I make checklists at work to um I like writing it down more than like keeping on my phone.


Oh yeah.


I think it definitely lays it out better for me, I guess.


Well, but Mhm.


Yeah. Are you? I'm actually I'm actually thinking of like moving back and actually I have to have to move back into the city um Probably at the end of this year, like early next year um when like the whole building kind of opens up because I have to like uh because my my boyfriend he's going to Colombia for grad school, so uh it's just easier like living together um when we're both in the same city.


But I Oh right. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh.


No. Oh yeah. We're gonna be living like in Manhattan or is it gonna be like have like one of the other? Uh Mhm.


Uh So so I used to live in Queens which was um I don't know if you're familiar, it's it's to the east of Manhattan, Yes to the east.


Yeah.


Uh and then Jersey is to the west of Manhattan. Um So I used to live in Queens, but I'm gonna be living in uh side eye area when I go back to is like um the area that's like below uh midtown midtown Manhattan.


Yeah. Mhm mm.


Midtown is where times squares.


Okay. Okay.


Yeah. Yeah, so it's like it's like a below, it's like where like the tip of Manhattan is on the bottom.


Oh, I see.


It must be expensive living there.


Mhm. Yeah, it's pretty expensive. It's um The apartment we're currently looking at is like nearly 4000, so it's pretty expensive.


Black. Oh.


Uh But like I don't know, we're still looking at different places because like we're not definitely going to go with that one.


Mhm.


Um It's just like the nicest one that we've seen.


Um But yeah, I don't I don't really think we're I don't think we're going to go with something like that expensive because it's like kind of kind of like too expensive.


Okay.


Yeah. But I will actually actually I would have in my life things are much more expensive than that because it's 22 people. But even in boston if you like live in the Cambridge area is like You obviously like $2,000 per person per month.


Uh and for some reason I just thought like Manhattan would be like, I don't know much more because I have some friends at work I guess in Silicon Valley and like they're like very upset about the whole situation now because I can't end at least.


And it's just like $2,000 a month.


Uh Oh yeah, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Just just lets it.


No, no, no. Manhattan is definitely like like uh More like a lot of them are a lot more expensive than um like what I was talking about 4000. Um but 4000 would be for like a one bedroom, so that's kind of like quite expensive.


Um But like but like since I'm sharing it um you know, like we would split it, but there are definitely like apartments that are like more expensive than that, but I like we can't we can't really afford it.


Yes.


So I'm looking at this.


Yeah.


So I think your video cut out. Um No.


Oh, that's weird. Can you see me? Uh huh. That's weird. I can see you.


Yeah. Um Anyway, I think um it was really nice talking to you.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was nice talking to you too. So um you said that.


Yeah. Yeah. I hope you find a good apartment.


Yeah. Thanks. Um I hope I hope you do well in like your research and you're able to see your parents again. Was your flight back?


Mhm.


Um, so I I just have a question that you couldn't see my video like just a couple of moments ago or like what was the Okay.


Yeah. Just like it just disappeared. I think when you were talking about like the other houses in Manhattan, yeah, mm hmm.


Okay. I okay. I don't know. It's kind of weird. Mm. So do we just close this window after we're done or?


Mhm. Sure. The Yeah.


So?


I think I think we just clicked. All right.


Uh yeah, it was nice talking to you.


I'm gonna close it right now. Talking to you. Bye.


Bye.


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mhm Hi, how are you?


Right. Hey, I'm doing great. How you doing?


I'm good.


I think.


Have you done this before?


No, have you?


I did it one I did one at one time about, I don't know before coronavirus and, and they paired me up with a female.


No, I don't know um go micro sam Bennett.


It was, it was fun. Um, where do I'm Christie Bennett, Nice to meet you.


Mhm.


Where do you live us?


I live in yeah, in florida.


In florida? Okay, so you're a hard hit place.


Oh, yep.


How are you? Are you fearing with the whole pandemic thing?


Um it's uh it's really affected my life a lot.


Did you lose your job too?


Uh yeah in turn actually I was in china before uh I lived in China for the last like seven years and then my me and my wife and our newborn baby, we came to uh florida here for chinese new Year to visit and so we haven't been able to go back and that's what I was teaching in china, so we've been stuck here for like right right, right, right okay yeah, so it's sitting in the apartment back there and just collecting dust.


Yeah. Yeah. Teaching, teaching english? Okay, wow. What happened to our new stuff? Did somebody, Oh and what, what about like rent and all of that kind of stuff?


Yes, mm Well so thankfully the rent's pretty cheap so it's like a one year Pay pay for the one year all at one time.


What are they doing? Um, are they helping you or forgiving it?


So uh so yeah I'm all prepaid until like what august and then we if we don't make it back we have to figure out if we're gonna uh you know right, dig ourselves back or if we're gonna keep running the house and then hopefully get back you know later.


Oh, okay. So you don't okay, how you're going to get your stuff? Mm. Young?


So it's I am what mm Yeah that's the question at this point it seems like I know my wife would definitely rather be over there and so you know we'd be able to do a lot more over there than we do here I think what have you?


Well, I was gonna say see something cliche when you said it's pretty cheap rent, but I opt I opted to so anyway. Well, I guess it's better to be, I don't know, is it better to be stuck here or stuck under the conditions they were imposing in china. Well at first it seemed like they locked down pretty tight like like within that first several months or so.


Yeah definitely, you know.


But then I guess everybody's changing how they do things now so.


Right right. Yeah it was definitely a lot more extreme over there but uh it seems like it was kind of they did it got kind of seem to get over it you know if you believe what they say it or not.


Yes. Yeah. Yeah.


Uh And now most people are kind of back to relatively normal like my school opened again so I'd be able to work if I was over there which would be good.


Mhm. Okay.


But.


Are they forbidding um travel from us or anywhere else?


Uh huh. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Exactly nobody can enter so that's a problem because I have the working Visa and so no no person with a Visa can enter china right now quickly.


Okay. Okay. Mhm. Okay. Well I heard within the last few days I don't know if it was associated with new york or not but I heard there's no travel here from like the U.


Right. Mhm.


K. Um Some of that that area.


Right. Yeah. Yeah I think trump put in a thing for stop in the U.


Yeah actually yeah yep.


K. For a while but yeah now the U. K. Thinking about stopping us travel gonna have it.


Yeah. And then and then what are we supposed to do about the people who are now infected because they were part of all the protests or the political rallies who now are going to go and visit their their mother in another state.


All right. Right. Yes.


There's something like that.


Exactly yeah that's right definitely yeah.


I mean it's a little hard to control that sort of thing, especially if people decide that it isn't such a serious thing anymore. And that's that's kind of my concern is become, I think it's human nature to become a little bit lax over time, but this is a little bit too serious to do that, so.


Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah and it's definitely tougher I think for us over here in the US because we haven't really had to deal with anything like this ever, you know, in the last 100 years early, but yeah.


Mhm. Since 1918.


Right.


Um yeah, and then of course, I know parts of your state were reopening and now closing again because there was a resurgence and things like that.


Yeah, mm. Mhm. Ah Exactly.


So.


Yeah.


So um what do you do for fun now?


So uh what, at this point I'm not I haven't really been doing a lot um making my memory.


Do you do you have another job here in the US temporarily or not? Except prolific.


Yeah. Right. Yeah, I just started doing this, you know, like a couple of like a couple of days ago really and so I'm pretty good.


It um prolific has been pretty good actually.


Mhm.


I've tried out a lot of different um survey things just for extra money. And um prolific is by far to me the most interesting because the studies are all academically based and their pay rate is much more fair than some of the others.


Last night. Right. Yeah.


Um And that's what I like about it because many of the surveys are quite interesting and you know the one that's called branded surveys that forever to do anything.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, I was trying to look into some different like options like that, but yeah, this is really the first one that's really been working out well. Uh huh.


Um If I weren't close to getting almost $10, then I might just stop it entirely.


Uh huh.


I might go just till I make that next point and then stop because it takes a lot of time.


Okay.


Much more time than anything on prolific does.


Right. Mhm.


Um for far less payment. So that's kind of how old is your baby?


Mhm. So he just turned one uh this month.


Right. Yes. Nice.


So yeah, that that's kind of saving the saving everybody here.


Uh huh. Yeah.


Uh Yeah.


Something to focus your energies on and you might not have had nearly as much time with him at this age if other circumstances were involved.


Yeah. Yeah, that's done. Right. Exactly.


So I don't know.


So yeah, it's good for his or my parents, you know, his grandparents because they you know we were supposed to come for like one month less than a month visit but now they get to really they've been with them for the last six months they've got out.


I guess it. Yeah. Yeah. Are you living with them?


Right right so yeah actually yeah we're still we're uh yeah mhm mhm.


So you're all stuck together? Is it is it your folks? So how does your wife handle that? Is there is everything kind of friendly or is there that normal kind of a little mother in law clash once in a while, is it?


Uh It's no I mean it's totally fine she's she's trying to use and so he uh I mean her english isn't perfect by any means but you know she gets along with everybody here and everybody's fine nets and in that case yeah.


Okay. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Another thing I started doing recently for extra money because I lost, I have I've been a substitute teacher for like 20 years and of course substitutes if schools are closed, you have no work.


Yeah. Mhm.


So that shot went high and then um I work part time at a pet store petsmart.


Right. Mhm Uh huh.


And um I took a voluntary leave. It was just a little too scary for me, they're considered essential.


Yeah.


Well I just I didn't feel safe.


Huh interesting Sure that's what wow.


So um I took voluntary leave and then they turned that into a furlough. So that job was gone. And then um my third job is a real estate agent and that market has really changed.


Oh nice.


I mean I carry a thing of wipes around me everywhere I go, but you still have to keep distance and businesses like dropped off the face of the earth. So um basically everything, but I did find recently, like within the last say two months I found this teaching english site, it's called Cambly.


Right Mhm.


It's much more informal, more informal than what you do or other tutoring sites.


You mm Mhm.


I have a referral link if you're interested, I can send it to you.


Well okay Campbell mhm Uh huh Like oh okay stop.


Um Thank you Cambly. C A M. B. L. Y. And It's not great pay, it's like uh 17 cents a minute, works out like 10 20 an hour. But they pay you through paypal so you don't, you don't necessarily have to report it because Cambly will not send a 10 99 to anyone.


And Paypal will, unless you make a lot of money and you know, so, um, so I've been doing that for a couple weeks now and it's been okay.


Right. Right right I asked. Well why thank you.


You know, you get your share of five minute trial students that are silly and you know, then they're gone.


Right Right.


Or I guess there are some customs in other areas of the world, like I forgot which, which nationality.


Yeah.


It's perfectly acceptable for a male to come on a video with no shirt.


Uh huh.


Uh, and then there are the ones that are, I had one teenage kid all he wanted, well give me your WhatsApp address and we're not allowed to do that, you know, But those have only been very infrequent and some of the rest of them have been very interesting.


Warm there may be yeah wow. Uh huh. Considering wow.


Um, met one guy from Brazil. He was a vet. That was one of the best talks because I wanted to be a vet and I have have right next to me keeping me company.


Right wow, kitty pig.


Um Yeah, in china, but who feeds it?


Yeah my my cats over is stuck you know stuck at home and the other side yeah and the other side of the world there's well so so we've had he's been through a couple of uh staying with a couple of friends and stuff now so we just yeah so actually a friend of mine is just picking him up today, he was kind of in between a couple of people, The one person who moved away and everything crazy.


That's good. Yeah, that's that's just full for you guys and for the cat.


This one here next to me and well, if you one month from yesterday, she'll be 19. So she's a she's an old lady, her sister, her sister died, her real sister died about a year ago just shy of 18 on So I'm I'm hopeful you're only hopeful.


Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh wow. Yeah.


But like I was telling you this Cambly site is not a ton of money, but at least you don't have to take the taxes out of it.


Mhm mhm.


And um you know it's fairly interesting. You learn stuff around about other cultures.


Mhm.


Mostly. I've talked to people in Turkey and Saudi Arabia and its its informal, it's not like you have to have a uh set up class or anything, you'd be great at it since you already teach english.


No.


But it's just you know it's some extra money.


Yeah. Oh yeah.


Um which helps if you don't have anything coming in.


Right. Right.


Well yeah but yeah.


Yeah like what? Because you were you were part time at the at the pet pet store there?


Mhm. Oh mm. Yeah and I just went back, went back two weeks ago.


What? Oh. Oh wow okay so we're sorry were they able to like give you any unemployment or anything like that, does that does that not work?


Yeah and well it's funny because I didn't think I actually didn't think I could get it from there because I was on a voluntary leave but then I found out that they actually did furlough me which is fine but I didn't even want employment unemployment from them.


All right. Uh huh mm Whoa.


But I've never applied in my whole life, I had never applied. But what was stopping me is that for substitute teaching when you sign up every year you sign this piece of paper acknowledging that you cannot go after unemployment when you're not working in the summer. And I've operated under that principle for years because it's it's not a contract job or anything. But um when I went to go turn my paper in that said yeah I'll come back next year. I asked somebody in human resources, I said well you know since school closed and there's no work, are we allowed to apply for unemployment? They told me yes. So this is two months after the fat though.


Uh huh Thank you.


I mean my last day of school was in The 3rd Week of March. I didn't apply till the end of May. I got unemployment. It's it's not watch, I mean it's paltry.


Uh huh.


But what made it important is the um pandemic unemployment assistance program, the federally funded poll.


Yeah the better little things between a little bit better than uh wow Right right right.


So as long as you qualify for even $1 of unemployment Then you'll get the extra 600. And and it happened. And I was like yeah and then pets what what?


Uh huh Is it like back player did they did they back pay you for all the time?


I don't know how to get that. They did not do that and I don't know I miss something or I don't know, I don't know how to, I don't know how to find out and you can't get them on the phone.


Uh huh. Um Right Right.


At least not not in Illinois, it's been very difficult.


Uh huh I think so wow.


So so I don't know how to pursue that.


From part and Right.


But uh so now that petsmart has me back again, I'm worried that that amount of the amount of hours that they give me would screw up the unemployment because they are listed on there. And so I'll find out this week because I do the reporting on monday and I work to hold seven hours in two weeks.


Mhm. Right.


So and they break it down first week, how many dollars did you make?


Uh huh wow.


And it doesn't matter if you've been paid, you have to report what you earned, even if you haven't gotten paid yet. So The first week it would be like three hours worth, which is not very much like $36.


Right.


And the second week is like four hours today was today was one of them. And then so when the when the next check comes, I will find out the ramifications of working and you know what it does to the amount as long as it stays above a dollar that I'm qualified for.


Uh huh.


I don't care because it's yeah it was the it was the other part that I needed.


You got yourself get the like what like $600 or something?


So um so I don't know, I don't know enough about how it works and I don't know how to go after retroactive to date of loss.


Oh. Uh huh. Right Right Right.


Um I still haven't been able to figure it out. I've tried but I can't do it.


Yeah I just I just heard something on some youtube video of some guy talking about and he said oh yeah you can get if you can sign up for it even later they'll still pay you you know that weeks from you know if you signed up late they'll pay you back there but yeah I don't know.


Yeah and that's what I heard but and and the thing is like my daughter replied but she's got a completely different circumstance because she's like a gig worker type thing so she didn't qualify for regular unemployment which was a requirement.


Uh huh. What?


And then if you're denied regular then you can apply for P.


Bye.


U. P. U. A. Pandemic unemployment assistance.


Oh Mhm Uh huh Uh huh Oh what?


Different program one for the 600 has different initials and so she applied got denied then applied to the the next one and she got it and they when they sent her her first like check in they went all the way back to her date of loss.


Yeah, but yeah.


But that didn't happen When I got my 4th 1. So I don't know.


Uh mhm Thank you, sir, mm Oh right, right.


I don't know if it's because it's regular unemployment. I don't I don't know I don't know if sending in an email would help, it'll get lost in the sea of emails I'm sure. So anyway it's a it's a it's a lot of hoops to jump through but you know if you need the money then you have to do it.


Yeah, I bet they get a lot of, yeah.


So I just wish I would have done it sooner and didn't assume that I couldn't um But you know I've been operating under that assumption for 20 years so it's it's like Okay well we're just not allowed to get it so but you know anyway um Okay next subject do you pick?


Mhm Right, right, right. Yeah, I like I said it would come to see. Mhm. You Uh huh did you did you when you're substituting, did you, is it always like the same subject or does it different ages or just anything happening?


Yeah. Mhm. You can pick what you want. I'm signed up to go K through eight when I a long time ago I focused more on the little kids. Um As my kids grew up I grew up in substituting oh are you okay?


Mhm Oh. Uh huh That's it.


You are still there, Your video went away, so So um then as my kids grew up I started taking older grades.


Thank you.


So now what I usually sub for is middle school, like 6th through 8th grade. And um pretty much that's all I do and I know who teaches what like I know certain teachers do math and social studies in a day, other teachers might do um communications in english, I tend to pick the teachers that do math and science because those are the subjects that I like the best um and that I'm most proficient at and then I just follow the plans that they um the plans that they leave.


Uh huh. Mm I thank you. Right, right, right.


Is there any chance of getting your video back that position?


Mhm Can you see me at all?


Yeah, I can't see it at all. It's just a it's a silhouette on the screen.


No, that's weird. I can still, mm Okay.


Yeah, I don't know why it, I don't know. oh there you are, what you do the last button you pressed.


And I was uh I don't know, I just moved to the bathroom. Mhm.


Um But it's yeah you're back, you're a little blurry but not bad, I mean I can still see your features and stuff but yeah, I like the, I like something, it's for the most part it's pretty good, but you know what I've noticed over 20 years the kids are getting so much more rude, I'm really rude, really disrespectful and you feel like you're always on them because of that uh that part I don't like I don't know what it is, I don't know if if parenting has changed over the years or I just I don't know what it is um.


Okay. If I'm not back now in my life, my not very clear, no. Mm hmm. Right, awesome, unique. Yeah, that's maybe one of the things that makes me a little a little cautious of trying to become a teacher over here in the US.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah there are a lot of hoops to jump through and boy do I feel sorry for for teachers right now here because what are you doing?


Mhm.


Um Oh she found garbage on the floor. I was she was all laying weird.


No. Yeah.


Uh They have to um come up with an entire online curriculum.


Hello? Yeah. Right, right, mm.


I mean they did for the end of school, I don't know what's going to happen in the fall because they haven't announced if school is reopening. So I don't know, I kind of hope they hold off a little bit, but you know that's probably because it's easier to collect unemployment than it is to pick up the jobs and I'll be scared I don't want to be around all those kids.


Mhm, mm. Yeah. Right, right, right, right, let's see.


Um So but if school starts then technically I'm not unemployed, I just haven't I haven't if I don't accept any work, it's not refusing work, it's just not accepting work. That's a pretty fine line because on the on the form where you have to certify your hours, it asked you right on there, did you turn down any work?


Mhm. Right, I see. Uh Oh shit yeah.


So uh if my phone doesn't work then I can't hear it ring and then I'm not refusing any work. I don't know I could make a case for it. We'll have to just see how it goes.


Yeah, no.


How long do you think you're going to be stuck? There's no way of knowing when they're going to lift the travel?


Yeah.


So you're you're gonna have to look for a job now here. Huh?


Yeah, I you know, I I've also looked at different uh online kind of online teaching stuff for mainly like chinese companies like that and I teach kindergarten over there, so I'm I'm usually with like really little little kids and uh I yeah, I mean I just really got to get started on one of them, I'm one of these different, you know, there's like a number of different, I'm not.


Mhm. Yeah. You know do you know of reputable ones then I was gonna say another, another site I use all the time is rat race rebellion.


Mm mm mm.


And I have it's for it's for like online work at home type jobs. And I frequently see you know teach chinese to kids online.


Mhm.


Um And that would be it's not something I would do because I don't actually have teacher certification and I don't want to help people prepare for tests or anything Campbell because it can just be conversational as well.


Mhm. Right, I see, I see.


Um But I know that that uh that one has come up quite a bit I've heard, I mean I I see it all the time because pretty much get an email from rat race rebellion once a day and it outlines the jobs that are out there.


Right.


What I like about them is that they're they're kind of vetted first, they've checked into the legitimacy of of the ones that they're posting.


Uh huh Uh huh.


Um So that kind of works out nicely but yeah yeah.


Yeah, thanks, thanks for the ideas.


Um So um mm next I just like really do a plate which is weird because I talk to people all day.


Mhm. Yeah.


Um And mostly people I don't know like real estate clients, things like that, except I have a fairly fixed script, so to speak, you know?


Mhm. Yeah, I actually, my funny you mentioned real estate, my brother is, you know, he's like a guru guy here find themselves uh you know houses and commercial property and everything all and uh I don't even know if he has a licence if he's actually an agent, he's more of like you know that entrepreneur like investment kind of guy that's mhm.


Yeah. Is he a licensed agent then? So he might. Okay. Um because I know like to go see property. Yeah, that kind of thing. You have to to go look at it with somebody, you have to have a license.


Mhm. Yeah, thank you.


I'd be curious to, you know, if he has a he if he buys and sells, he probably has a real estate license, then he can save the commission, I mean.


Uh huh. Mhm. But I think he does, he tries to get like, you know, he tries to get the house, he tries to get in touch with the person that wants to sell the house before they even put it on the market, you know, like he tries to Right right, yeah, that's that's the stuff mhm mm hurt.


Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I got it. And then then that way the uh and it's of course it's the seller who's paying the commission, so he saves them money by doing that. Yes, once it's on the market, they have to wait until their uh their contractual obligation for the listing expires. Uh You know, they can't just let anybody come and do it, otherwise they still have to pay the commission on it. So um yeah, is it?


No.


Uh So he makes a good living at that?


Yeah, definitely.


I'm no real estate tycoon, I don't make a living at it.


Yes, but yeah, yeah.


I'm lucky if I do one or two or three houses a year, that's why I have other jobs. Um And I don't know, it just could be um I don't know, I'm not cut throat, I'm just not like that, I'm too honest.


Right. Yeah.


Yeah. You know that's hard to say that anybody who does well is dishonest.


Mhm.


It's just uh I don't know, it's something about it.


Oh why we upfront about everything that Mhm.


So I am. Yeah, that I think that's probably got me into trouble before, but that's okay, it's who I am, so I'm not going to change it, right.


Uh huh Yeah, that's fine.


Some people appreciate that, you know?


Yeah. Right.


Mhm. Uh But uh yeah. What is your does your wife work or she's staying at home with your baby for now at least?


Yeah. Yeah, she since uh yes and she had the baby and everything that she has to spend at home and being a very good mommy there.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Um My son he just um yeah He just turned 33. They've been married now for I don't know four years or so, Maybe five.


Uh huh.


They live in Colorado. That's where I want to go after when I moved from here. And uh they are just now they mentioned at first I have never ever ever asked but they mentioned they were thinking about having a kid now so I was like oh okay I don't care one way or another it might be it'll be fun.


How cool. Mhm. Yes. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.


They had it.


Yeah, now thanks.


I had a grand kitty but grand kitty passed away and that was very sad. They only had him for three years. He had he had a heart condition, they adopted him when he was seven and he already had um a known heart condition and um A couple other things but they gave him the most pampered wonderful three years he ever had.


Um What?


So that's a saving grace you know.


Uh huh. Yeah.


But um so anyway yeah they they're thinking about that so um I'm thinking you to be are you right around that same age?


Yeah, that's very mhm. Yeah, I'm 31.


Okay. Yeah it just it seemed like you might be right around his same age.


Mhm.


My daughter is 30 or she will be She'll be 31 next month.


She was born in 89. Yeah so yeah that will be interesting. And she doesn't live as far away. She lives about an hour away from me.


Great game with me. Nice.


Just moved to Wisconsin recently. Mhm.


Yeah.


Um Just north of where I live in Illinois takes about an hour and 15 minutes to drive there.


Mhm. Catchy mm.


But um but at least I can visit but not really too much right now. We haven't seen each other. She did she did come visit on my birthday in May. Um And we just you know took a chance because I hadn't seen her in a while and you know we stayed away from each other.


Mhm. Right, thanks.


We didn't wear masks but we did stay away from each other a little bit and she hadn't really been out much so I felt pretty safe.


Yeah. Oh yeah, definitely.


Um It's just hard when you can't see the people that you you know would like to see.


Yeah. Yeah, we've been pretty fortunate with so we would we have been staying with my parents here.


Uh huh. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


But then my brother, real estate guy is also just, you know, right, you know, two streets over.


All right.


Pretty much so.


Mhm.


And he he just had a kid uh His baby is maybe six months older than our baby.


Excellent. Thanks. Oh okay.


Mm So yeah.


He has incentive to keep himself very safe in his business dealings.


Mhm. Yeah, definitely. And uh so so yeah, so we've been kind of between both houses with them and over here.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Is it?


And so are my parents can be with both babies and mm yeah, not not really going out associated much with going out as little as possible, you know?


Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.


Pretty much, yeah.


Yeah I get it for sure. Um Would you like um the referral recruit link for gambling?


Yeah, sure, you know, I'm gonna ask you about that, sure.


Um Can I have your email for one time? Use only?


Um Yeah.


Um If you want to hold it up I have a notebook with me.


Good either.


I'll write it down and um, and then I'll just send it to you via email. I'll remind you it's me from the prolific chat and then I'll just send you the referral link.


Okay.


Um It's not hard to use, not hard to get accepted and Once you get 10 hours of talk time It took me, I was only doing it a couple of days a week.


Mhm.


So it took me about 2.5 weeks to get up to 10. Um then um, then I get a referral bonus, but then you, if you look under your profile, assume you get accepted and all of that kind of stuff.


Mhm. Uh huh.


Then if you look under your profile, you'll have a referral link. If you give it to somebody and they complete the process. Then you'd get the bonus too if you know other people who are in a pinch and and would like that sort of thing, you know?


Match sure.


Um But I think that you'd be good at it just based upon what you've already told me. You do, you're like a shoe in, you might, you might actually like the ones that pay more, but you could also fill in with it whenever, because you can just jump on whenever you want to, if you want to, you know, um that's how I've been doing it.


Mhm, mm. Mhm. Mhm.


You can also reserve and sign up ahead and I just, oh, I have some time and I go and click the button and say, okay, I'll stay here now for our Mhm.


Mhm. And so some some person would just kind of uh select you or something and then they only want to chat, chat with you.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, thank you. What happens, what they call it, what they call it is priority hours.


Yeah, wow.


So if you go on your dashboard screen, you can, you can see um your dashboard, you see priority hours and it's a big grid of time blocks priority waters or increments of one hour if you're spontaneously doing it.


Like if I go on at 10 minutes to one and thought, okay, I check the video and I click from 1 to 2, I I select that priority our, then I'm committed to stay for that hour and any anybody who calls, you have to pick up, so you get, you get a whole bunch of different kinds of people.


Uh huh. Yeah, I see, I see, mm.


Um but so far it's worked out and I haven't gotten the hang of like developing a schedule that I'll follow and post out there so people can select. I do, you do get a reservation link and I've sent that to people, but I hadn't posted any scheduled hours right now. I'm just kind of, since I'm still kind of learning it, I just think okay, I can spend a couple hours at this, so as long as that, as long as you click on that button before the half hour is up, like by 1 30 then you can click the 1 to 1 to two button and just sit there until two o'clock or you can click as many as you want, but once do that, you do have to commit to it since your spontaneously doing it, you can also sign up for those same hours ahead of time, then you just want to make sure you're not late.


Mhm mm. I think.


I've never done that just because it's easier for me to just, I never know if I'm going to get an appointment or something, but if I'm sitting around and I realized, oh yeah, I can sit here for another couple hours, then I'll click on and do it.


Right, right. Not yet, yeah.


Uh it works better for me that way, but there's a lot of flexibility with how they do it um and you'll have my email if you decide to do it and you get stuck II somebody else, one of my friends signed up and so she's just starting to learn it, so she text me questions all the time and I said oh yeah just click here and here, so and then she's found out some stuff by doing some reading that I hadn't done, so we go back and forth and it's it's helpful because um I might know something that she doesn't know and vice versa, so it's worked out pretty well.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Uh huh, wow.


Uh what's your email, I can just write it down yeah together.


And the okay. Mhm. Uh It's um yeah, F.


Uh huh. Mhm, yep.


I. E. N yep.


Like frank, Yeah.


After that prank I.


Uh huh, yep. Mhm, yep.


E. N. W.


Uh huh.


New S.


Okay. Yeah F M like the radio? Okay.


I'm sorry, F uh to uh frank frank.


Oh okay, frank frank, Okay.


Right, okay, wow.


At what?


Atz proton Mail, that is T. R. O. T. O. N.


That's a new one on me, is it dot, is it dot com?


proton mail, Yes, mm that's correct.


Pro proton? P. R. O. T. O. N. Mail dot com. Okay, After after the follow up thing, I know that when we, when we end up hanging up we've got like 20 minutes of questions or something to answer.


It's F. Uh huh. Oh yeah. Right. Right.


Well when the survey part, whole thing is done, I'll send it to you, I'll send you the email.


Yeah okay.


Mhm.


Here let me just show you that the first um Mhm Mhm.


Uh huh. Yeah. Okay. Let me. Okay. Okay. F. F. E. N. W. E. F. F. O. Wolf. Like a dog at protein mail dot com.


Yeah that's right, thank you very much for that.


Okay. Uh huh. Um Yeah. And who knows, I mean you might think it sucks or you might think it's workable and like I said they pay you through Paypal and they pay you once a week on Mondays, whatever you've made the previous week.


Yeah. Yeah I'll definitely check it out you see you see. Sure that's good.


I think I'm up to a whole $73 this week.


Uh huh. Nice, nice.


You know, it's a little something, But yeah, uh, we passed our time limit.


Yeah that'll definitely help help out. All right, so yeah I think we're good.


You're ready to, you ready to go do the rest of it.


Nice talking to you.


Okay. Uh, it's been fun, definitely.


Uh huh.


And um, I'll try and email you the, the referral link.


Oh all right, gotcha.


It goes on the application, so you have to use it in the application. Um, I'll send it before then.


Yeah, I'll make sure that uh Okay, cool.


For sure.


Yeah I'll make sure it gets in there right for you.


Well, yeah, and good luck if you end up doing it and I hope your kid is okay.


Yeah he's he's really cool, he's got he's got one he's he's mainly white and he's got one yellow and one blue eye.


Oh, neat.


And uh yeah he was he was born he was born there and he was really random, he just kind of wandered to our door and found him yeah and he was just you know, just really dirty for lost little kitten and really he's the nicest cat now.


Was he born in china or Okay. Oh, let me, Yeah.


He's super chilled out and very tightly and yeah, super nice.


Yeah. Well before my daughter moved out, um, one of our cats, she just decided to claim the claim her and then she adopted another one. So then she took the two younger ones when she moved out.


Mhm.


But one of them who was really my cat, a friend of mine does destination weddings and she's also indian and she does photography there.


Mhm. Uh huh.


She was in India and overheard this group of, I'll just call them thugs uh, talking about being mean to this cat and getting rid of it and not in a good way.


Oh. Uh huh.


She went over scooped up the cat ended up getting a couple temporary homes.


Uh huh, wow.


Um, for a short time, ended up bringing it back to where they live in Washington D. C. Then she throw like 1500 miles and brought the cat to me.


Come in yet. I do. No, wow.


So I actually did have an indian cat, cutest little thing. Black and white looks like a cattle.


Uh huh.


I'll follow calculate.


Yeah or, mm.


But she's a very nice cat. So my daughter has her and and the other one that she adopted. Um, but, but this kitty really did take a shine to my daughter. I mean they they had a really good bond and you know there is no substitute for that. So I was fine and she was happy to have two of them, so and now they're her therapy cats.


Yeah, mm. Okay. But very good.


Hey, I will let you go and uh complete the rest of the survey.


Okay.


It was nice to meet you.


All right, nice to meet you too.


All right. Good luck to you.


All right, take it easy.


Okay? You too. Bye. Bye.


All right, please.


Yeah.


Mhm.


Yeah. Uh huh. Yes. Yeah. Uh huh. Can help. 24. Thank you. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Uh huh.


Yes yes so. Mhm. Alright. Alright I was just yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. What bothers me? What? Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. More right. Hello?


Hi I think a little bit later I was practicing.


Uh No problem. Uh practicing what?


Yeah violin.


Oh nice.


Yeah come on. Double major. Yeah my name is Alex Kids Songs, Nice to meet you.


Mhm. My name is Ray, you call it?


Right um So uh what do you work in? What's your field or what are you majoring in if you're in college?


Uh I'm disabled actually. Uh Yeah I am working on uh I.


Okay. Oh no worries mm Really cool because actually I mentioned earlier I was double major right?


T. Certifications so that yeah. Uh Yeah.


So I'm doing um so my first major is music pedagogy which is pretty much performance but mostly geared towards like understanding the philosophy.


Yeah mm.


And the second major is actually B. C. S. I. T.


Yeah. Yeah so I'm just doing I. T. General because I was thinking maybe your cybersecurity like are you are you just doing I.


Okay. Mhm.


T. Certifications? Are they like I. T. With like some cyber or some focus on them?


Right now it's just the uh google certifications on coursera.


Okay. Okay. I was like what are the certifications entail?


Just take it.


Sorry the connections kind of office sent me to cut you off.


Mhm. Uh huh. It's um mostly just uh intro stuff right now. Uh Currently I'm focusing on the course is focusing on operating system. Oh it's To the certification is to prep you to be a level one tech so it's mostly I'm using it to see if this is actually a field I'm interested in pursuing what.


Oh yes I see. Yeah that makes sense to do it.


Mhm.


I mean.


Trouble.


Yeah that's a that's a lot better than you know going to college and like you know spending god knows what for the semester then finding out like this absurd.


Yes. Yeah the college prices have kind of it uh out there.


Yeah. But since um remember just not offensive. But then since you're disabled don't you get reduced tuition? Because I know some universities like I know some communities at some university they do either like almost all of it or the entire tuition reduced like gone.


Oh some do I haven't actually looked into the one here, it's when I need to research eventually but I'm trying to figure out things before I actually start researching that because I I I don't wanna go down that path and have all that money spent.


That.


Uh just to find out it's not something that's going to work for me.


Oh I see. That makes complete sense.


Yeah.


If you know what we asking, where do you live at? What area Oregon all.


Mhm. Bargain or uh I'm actually shocked how many people don't know how we're Oregon is.


I don't know. What organism in Virginia. Is that like south or east East west? Yeah on the like the very top corner.


Uh you know where Washington is? Yeah we're just south of Washington between Washington and California.


Right? Oh I was thinking you guys were like in the middle of the U.


S. Was like probably organs in the middle.


Uh Coastal.


Okay so that's so then what time is it for you because right now it's six for me.


Okay.


So you must be at like uh like yeah I was about to say three because I had a friend who lived in Cali for a bit because she's my friend who goes to Gm you so when she went back to Cali it was like a five hour difference.


Three but Mhm. Yeah.


Certainly that I see.


Yeah it's early in the day here but that's not actually it.


But yeah I see. Yeah it's kind of late for me. So like You know I'm already trying to finish, I'm trying to finish a project right now for my my IT. courses. It's like it's due at 11 and I'm almost done with it. But it's like um I have to use Photoshop to like make a logo for some like it's like a simulation. Like I I only like I'm advertising company have to make the logo for the company. It's stupid, yep.


That's a graphic design. Very different fields.


I know, but it's in the it's so stupid, right? It's I. T. To 13 in.


Yeah.


It's called web design or elements of web design, something like that. But I have to take it because I am a general I.


T. And even if I was cybersecurity, I don't have to take that because this goes to dreamweaver Photoshop and something else africa.


The third one is this barrel Dobie.


Okay Basic web design I can see that being under it. So you can uh it would help understand what's going on with the websites if you're hoping to but uh knowing how to use Photoshop isn't actually part of that.


Okay. I know it's really weird because like even I was questioned, but I have to take this course. I mean like I can't understand Dreamweaver, but then I think you've heard of Wordpress, right?


Yes.


Yeah, no one uses Dreamweaver because because Wordpress is a thing. That's the reason Wordpress is like 1000 times better.


And Dreamweaver, I mean you can sit there for hours and still have like, you know, still we still have the page relatively empty because you have to find like all these um all like the you have to know how to pretty much have not only how html works, but how like the source code for Dreamweaver works and how to operate.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Oh yeah.


It's really confusing. I hate it.


Yeah having I. T. People go into art scenes. Yeah. Uh huh.


Mhm.


Although I do actually know how to use Photoshop but I do quite a bit of art and uh three D.


Or uh always.


work so Photoshop kind of requirement.


Yeah, that makes sense. I mean for me um I'm not good with heart.


Okay.


That's what I can't draw. That's why my music, I can't I cannot draw like I have been here training so um but like I guess that would make sense.


Yeah. Yeah. Okay.


Um for our but do you like do you pirate yours or do you actually have to pay the description?


Yeah. Mhm. I paid the subscription.


Uh huh.


Because I tried to pirate mine. I could not.


Yeah. Yeah I know I've been there uh back before they even had subscription options with the dark days.


Okay. Yeah, trump.


Where?


Oh so you were here, wait, When you were around like you're back in like you know the phrase back in your day? What? Really like was it just Internet explorer seven or like no, like, you know Windows seven?


Oh uh back then Oh I'm back win 95 days.


Yeah. Oh my God, So you're back with the dinosaur computers? Like my sister?


Yeah I grew up on BBS this and things like that.


Oh my gosh, yeah, they're not. Oh, that time. Yeah, that's like I was born 2011.


Uh huh. Okay.


So by the time I actually remembering things, it was already relatively like we're gonna really like Windows seven at that 70.2000 like 56 Windows seven, Windows six.


Yeah. Yeah I think so. I'm not sure. Uh Oh yeah dialogue was fun.


But Yeah, because I just like when I look back at it now, anything before like 2004, like the dark ages with dialogue. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.


Although I didn't have cable internet when I was 14 so.


Oh, oh well, but then it would that's why, because I was like if it existed then why did some people use it was like, okay, that's why.


Uh huh. Okay that was when cable internet was first starting oh 82.


So if you don't mind me asking, what were you born, 82? Okay so you're like before my bit before my sister because my sister was 74. Oh that's before Oh my God no 94 74 S that's my mom is 94.


Mhm. Yeah 74 is a little bit before my time to.


Mm. Yeah.


Yeah.


Uh Yeah I definitely had had but different experience with the internet, but yeah uh back when my brother was in college, the professors were actually telling you what sites to go to download, Pirated copy of all of the software because they didn't have educational licenses and all of that back then.


Uh huh. Yeah. Oh yeah and it wasn't part of the they have contract that they do now with adobe and all that.


Mm. Mhm. Yeah. Uh So yeah for a while I was using the educational version of Maya.


Right?


Uh And uh then they stop, they pulled the free educational version, so I've switched over to blender and Fortunately Adobe does a $10 Photoshop subscription.


But Right. Yeah it's kind of, I mean I know for the student one you what starts with the student one is you can't get the single one is you can't just give one so you have to get all of it.


Which I'm stuck with because again I try to pirate it.


Right. Yeah.


Not just like every time I saw like a somewhat uh somewhat yeah somewhat reliable source, it always told me like, you know, application invalid or something like that.


Uh huh. Yeah. Right. Okay.


Like you know install the delivery like hated that because you know you're paying for a program but your licensing which is stupid.


Enough. No mama. Yeah, the whole subscription model idea has really got a little bit too far, especially with the uh this type of software.


Right.


Yeah. I feel like adobe is like ubi soft equivalent of like code. Right? Is it just me?


Yeah that that makes a lot of sense over, I have to say auto desk is 1000 times worse.


Yeah I don't I don't even know what that is. What is that?


Mhm. Auto desk. Uh Have you heard of AutoCAd?


Yeah I think I have. But um what's the three DS Max Lair but not Maya.


Uh three DS Max? Uh There are basically three D. Software. Auto cat is big in uh industrial design.


Maya three Ds max are generally for uh production are like movies and games.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


Uh And their subscriptions tend to be um 2 3000 a year. Yeah.


But are they even like for Maya that is uh in three D.


Yeah. Yeah.


And three D.


Mhm.


Are they even better than adobe or they just like the same thing?


Oh adobe doesn't do three D.


Yeah.


Adobe does the two D. Part of it. You still if you want to do three D. Art you need a three D. Software and then you also need something like Photoshop or substance painter to do the textures that you put on them.


Right.


So you actually have to have Multiple subscriptions to be in the three D. field. Uh huh.


Oh wait but then what like what's your rig set up?


I'm on the laptop.


That was in video though so I can have three D.


Uh huh.


But for you 60?


I've got a desktop. It's risen uh 5 36 100 with an R. TX 2060.


Nice. But that's uh that supports also like three D. Correct or three D.


Yes.


Text.


Okay so.


Mhm.


Uh huh. Do you also feel like any like playing the games like Steam or Xbox or something?


Yes. yes I played quite a bit of games that before I started doing the I.


T. Work. That's actually what I was studying towards was art for Treaty Games. But that field is just such it's in so much chaos right now with crunch time and things like that. It's not something I would survive in.


Yeah and I heard about that fuel to it's the same thing goes for like coding for games because even before Kobe it was a mess but now it's even more so a mess are.


Yeah yeah the whole game industry of uh we're going to work you 2 300 hours you're going to sleep in your office kind of thing is still going on and yeah yeah mm hmm.


Mhm. Yeah I mean at least you sleep in your own house but like still, I mean yeah the pay is pretty good because I know for like a developer especially like someone who knows code and works at a big franchise, they get paid like You know 50, 60 even more than that an hour.


Business.


But you're kind of slave at that point you're like a literal weight slave sucks.


Oh yeah yeah the coders and engineers they're they're the ones who make the big money comparatively.


It's that.


Although from what I've talked most of the people I've talked to if they were to actually drop out of the games industry moving to another field they would be making double what they currently making the games industry.


Oh right.


Because uh coding is such a specialist art form and well I do the art, but I know a lot of people who do the coding as well and you make a lot more money coding, not in the games industry, your soccer development.


Wait so that was coding or are in general? Oh yeah. Yeah that is true to like. I know. Oh yeah that is true like um I think you heard like micro no Lockheed martin.


Yeah. Yeah. Yes.


Yeah so we have actually microns like Um not that far it's like 10 minutes from here and the law keep Martin.


Mhm. Okay.


Like we have like an actually a big building dedicated lucky morning it's like what five minutes six minutes.


Oh yeah.


So I know they're like the position they're hard to get into but they're really good for like everything.


Yeah. Oh yeah.


It's it's It's one of these works like my plan is I have 2° for a reason so I too as a backup.


Mhm.


And also just because you know um if another covid thing hits and if my plan goes through which I'm planning to be you know have a studio for teaching and perform or whatever but also being like on call for code and whatever.


Like as an I. T.


Yeah.


Other side security or just in the architecture like the architecture, you know part of the I.


Mhm. Yeah.


T. Staff I can work on call, I can still be kept kept up to date. And if something arises like covid I can just you know beforehand switch from on call to part time and have that just in case because I know students drop out.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I started the thing was because Covid there's pretty much no one in my area who knows how to use computers and things like that and there's no one to do it support for all of these people who live nearby who suddenly had to do remote working.


Mm hmm.


The teachers had no idea how to set up computers. Nobody I could have actually uh been able to make a little bit of money off of uh people meeting help suddenly.


Uh huh. All right. Yeah. I mean I do it but again, I don't have time because I'm so busy with all these projects.


Right. Yeah.


But yeah that sounds like a good plan I. T. But for like uh after like if you decide that it's a good field then so after you take the preliminary courses or like you know the courses that the you say google, right?


So then you're going to search within the community college or some college and then pursue I.


Uh huh. Yeah possibly.


T. As an entire degree.


It depends on uh if I don't actually need the degree to get into a decent job then I probably wouldn't go for the degree until later on, something to work on overtime.


Right?


But uh it's just it really depends on what opportunities there are so far I'm seeing it is not quite as easy to get into as gaming.


Well yeah there.


Well okay gaming is not easy to get into but it's uh they look at your portfolio before anything else, you don't actually have to have any educational background to go into game development, you just have to have a good portfolio.


Mhm.


Coders have a little bit harder time. Some companies prefer coders have full educational background but some don't care as long as they have a good get home.


Oh yeah. But yeah that makes sense. But yeah if you're doing I. T. Though like I know I. T. Like generally you know the difference in the I. T. And CS. Right? Computer science.


Yes.


Okay.


Uh Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah that's gonna ask to like um I just want to make sure because you mentioned also like coding and all that because like I. T. How I know it's like yeah we can cope with your job or whatever but like we we don't make the programs specifically like yeah the I.


Yeah.


T. Course I'm taking you to cybersecurity I don't make it I know how to operate it and how to troubleshoot it.


And you know I tested pretty much whereas the CS people they sit in their chairs. I probably cry half the time and creating a program because all.


Yes I've tried doing the CS field to I'm decent encoding, but all of my solutions are hacky, which from the sounds of it is perfect for I.


T.


Yeah I mean that's pretty much it yet because we can make the code that won't be efficient where CS it has to be efficient with sex.


Yeah, I wish, I wish java would actually just actually tie job.


I mean like I learned, I'm still learning python. And java python is so much easier to make the job of the job was a pain in my ass because like it uh And the and that's and you know, I can get it why it's used because it's even like, you know, it's even used by like Uber or whatever for their gps tracking or G.


Uh Yeah, yeah, so many insecurities to it too.


P. Like the whole strategy Uber how they work and job is used a lot. But like I just hate java. So yeah. But All right.


I prefer C sharp, I know a bit of C plus plus python, I work out four times now and I just cannot get over the whole no semi colons thing and think not variables to me should be strongly.


Yeah. Mm received. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Uh Yeah.


Uh It just annoys me.


I can see that. That makes sense because like yeah, because luckily I learned python first. If I learn java first, which they don't allow because they always they want python first. I would be out having trouble with. I would have yeah, I would have more trouble because java or doing java then going to python is like uh, what's the opposite of upgrade? Degrading?


Great.


Yeah. Downgrading its like, downgrading entirely. Like an entire like level or two. But whereas if it's the opposite, which we learn python or java, it's a straight upgrade. But it's much harder. But still. Yeah, because that's what I feel like. And um I'm pretty sure to like if anyone to ask me also like, well what should they learn first? I just say python that's like, that's like the basic Yeah.


Yeah, it's very powerful from what I've seen, but it's just doesn't really fit for me, a very, very wide variety of games.


And job is all the crazy anyone ever uses java. Like speaking of games to before. What games do you play on steam then? Yeah.


I what, DF two?


You have to you have to Team fortress two.


Oh yeah, I have played it, but I don't really get into the team shooter that much.


I see.


Destiny to the closest I come to team shooter.


Oh, but you play that definitely to consistently.


Not lately, but I did it for quite a while.


When did you drop off? Because I was like, were you there from the very beginning a Destiny one or did you go to Destiny too? So they got it for pc uh Year one Right here one, There's another year one veteran.


I was there for Destiny. You want as well? It yes, it was definitely a change of pace from all the other normal M.


Oh my God. Uh huh Yeah.


O. S. And J. RPGS and things like that. And it took shooters to a whole new level, Frankly. Uh, most shooters are very topical.


Come from Paula duty esque.


Yeah.


That's what I don't like. But like the whole addition of abilities and all of that. That's what really like, that's just what I pretty much I just loved it because I was there from like, I wasn't there from when you that day one or just year one.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh, probably month one.


Yeah, I was actually year one, but I, I joined around Crow to and uh luckily I joined around Kuroda because I got to all the memes where you know, crude is just a strike is not a raid solo.


You sold Dakota, right?


Yeah. No.


Oh, it's a rite of passage.


Okay.


You have to do it eventually.


I do have the crowd a weapon the uh there's a there was a rare drop that you get. It's a hive weapon at which you then have to use to kill hive on the moon to upgrade it and then you upgrade it again and again.


Yeah. Oh. Mhm Yeah, the I, the neck a chasm uh that's it.


Until if I remember it, you do actually have to go in and kill Crow to to get the final form of the exotic. Never did. Yeah, I didn't finish the whole thing but I found the weapon to be the husk to be really good actually.


You did the whole thing. I never did it because all I got was the husk. Yeah, Okay, good. Because like for me, all I got was the husk and I completed it just for fun. But then all my friends told me at that time, um, it's a waste of time because how garbage it was because they spent like God knows how long farming pro to over and over and you know, they still don't get the ice. I don't even get the accident stay. I never got the, I actually three.


It was a fun weapon to use the speed of the shot.


Right? Yeah, that's true. That's pretty good. And but also like you, you is also like that what's called the calving cash rifle. The very beginning using the multiplayer. Right?


No I don't remember it.


Oh, because I remember like uh me and my friends, I think I'm like this, it was the summer after for the summer around the law wolves, the wolves event, the wolves. You'll see. Uh Me and my friends found out that, I mean we found a personal youtube video but it was relatively small at the time that we found out that the beginning rifle, the caliber rifle was stupid, overpowered in multi player for like a low or you know the beginner weapon? It had like wicked, it had a wicked time to kill like comparable next task.


Yeah so it's scale. Well yeah.


Yeah, so the only problem was it sucked, like, you know, you couldn't get that good reward. So the best thing to do is like right before the match ended, swap to you, you get the highest weapon and then get the rewards. But it was fun to pub stop. It was so fun.


Yeah.


But yeah, it was definitely fun to pop stop. You did like all the raids. Right?


What?


Uh, what was it?


Oh no I I didn't actually have a group of people to play with and I couldn't I could never find anyone who was willing to read with me what the weapon.


How come you didn't have gala horn? You didn't have gallery warm.


I didn't even know anyone who was asking for it.


Yeah. Is that why? Right here?


I was using the group, find her Reddit and all of that for for the game.


Okay. Right.


But I never could find anyone who is willing to play.


Yeah. Oh, I see. That's why you like use LFG two. Right?


Oh, that's strange because like you, I'm pretty sure you saw about maybe you forgot because all I remember from those days, like, especially all the way up until before oryx. So, um, a theon all the way up to access gala horn. You do not have a California kicked.


Oh, those are so toxic. I remember that.


Yeah. You know their whole idea that you can't use raid finder because this stuff this content is just too hard is absolutely ridiculous because you know I've been playing these games since I was six years old.


All right.


Uh you know every game I've seen that has raid finder. People figure out how to do it no matter what, crappy pickup group you get, people figure out how to do it.


Yeah. It's surprising even like you pretty much want to pull out your own hair by the end of it, but you still get it done because that's what I noticed, too.


Yeah.


Like we could be screaming at each other. Me and my, like my teammates are my uh group I'm in, but we somehow still finish it just shy of going insane.


Yeah. So the the excuse that a raid finder would wouldn't work just doesn't really fit.


Yeah, definitely. That's not a great one.


Uh Yeah, let's talk to you to have we finished our 25?


But yeah, thanks for talking about the way. It was really, it was really nice to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, 25.


Uh Okay, well, have a good day.


It's like 27, right? That you, too.


Bye.


Oh. Uh huh. Barbie yeah. Mhm Okay. Oh. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. True. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. That is going on. Mhm. It was a mistake. Mhm Oh. Mhm, mm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Mhm. Mhm Yeah. Work. Mhm. Mhm Yeah.


Hello.


Hello?


I meant to be here sooner. I was just looking at some clips.


I know you're, are you?


I'm doing all right for the most nice.


No.


Mhm.


Yeah.


Going on.


I was reviewing some of the clips from my channel earlier.


Mm. Hey? Yeah, You have a channel.


I'm going to decided to take like 38 clips today of me shooting people on the nether regions.


Yeah. Okay. Oh my, what do you do?


Apparently I have a bad bad reflex to go to the ground and shoot them there.


Mhm Okay.


So yeah.


Anyways, that's my gaming experience for the day.


Yeah. I mean generally, I don't think anyone would want to be shot in that area, so uh yeah.


Well I have this button that is a clutch button on my mouse. That makes me basically go to my knees or slide. And I have a habit of actually hitting that around corners. And I just kept shooting people and it's like again After about the 20th one today they're like we need a counter for that.


Uh huh. Quite the fortuitous button to have. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh I mean, yeah, it seems.


Yeah. Okay. I turned the corner and shot to their including the teammates. They were all just around the corner.


Yeah. Mhm.


I don't know. I'm trying to find that one.


Yeah, I see.


Yeah. So that's what I was doing. That's why I was slightly late, right?


I mean personally if I were to occur more than five times I'd be slightly suspicious as well be And like one or two times maybe, but like five, like 20 like, come on.


Yeah, yeah, wow, it's just, I don't know what the hell is just the whole day.


Yeah. This.


It was ended up with me just doing that and it's like, I'm not even trying to uh huh I promise I'm not a professional at that, they're here, it makes you feel any better.


Mm hmm, mm hmm. I'm not sure how I feel about that.


I was aiming at one person over a teammate said, and he decided to jump right in front of me, A friend of mine and I shot him in the ass and killed him and the other guy, I was like, get a jumping jack ass, okay.


Yeah. Okay. It's like a two for one deal I guess to fair right there. I can't really complain about that one.


Uh so yeah, uh yeah, so that's been my day, pretty much Call of Duty, Modern Warfare.


Yeah. What game was it? And I see basically that a little bit, but I've never been a huge kind of like multi player in God games.


Um Yeah, he hadn't played in a while, he was playing hardcore with me for the first time today.


Bit too, you know.


And every time he would turn around he was there and I shot him like so many times today, he was like, what's going on?


Right.


I don't know. One time I turned the corner and I've just seen someone jumping around like a jackass, I turned around and shot him and it was uh that's a good jumping jacket.


Mhm.


Yeah, I don't know.


Uh huh.


Every time I turned the corner I was shooting at him and I don't know why. It was like, he was always there at one point, he was looking out the window and I shot up there and I almost shot you again. It's like, I don't I don't know.


Yeah, I see.


Apparently he's a magnet for my bullets. Mm open it.


Well, I mean, oh, mystery just activated.


So uh what kind of games do you play then?


Sorry, Coming rough.


Normally you need?


Mhm. Uh Normally, um I don't know since school started, I even had as much time, but before that I played like a lot of league.


What?


Um and I also played a lot.


Uh Oh yeah, a lot of people are getting into that one.


I'm playing right now a lot of attention and she's like, yeah, it is really, it's very, it makes me want to bust out my wallet a lot.


Mhm Me Yeah.


But I'm resisting. Yeah. But other than that they just play some random games on steam. Not too many. Uh huh. Yeah, that's about it. I don't really play first person shooters anymore. Well, I haven't found a good one I really like recently, so Yeah, not a fan of those.


Yeah, yeah, there's not a whole lot of right. I mean there's a lot on out but there's not a whole lot of variety. Everybody's doing the battle royal thing these days.


I they it's a very much especially with like, I don't I don't know, like to me it's kind of jarring to play with like literally like 12 and 11 year olds.


Yeah. I don't like Battle Royale. Look that. Yeah. Right.


Like they're actually the majority and it's kind of weird.


What's weird to me is how people enjoy drop it into a map that's really huge, running 10 minutes across it, dying and then going, Okay let's do that again.


Yeah, I suppose.


It's like seriously? You spent all that time getting gear and weapons and stuff and you die and you just wanted to do it again. You know what? I could have done that in 10 minutes. I could have gotten killed probably about 20 times in the multi player and had fun.


Exactly. Yeah, I can see you coming from a better way.


She's I don't like the single death crap just Yeah.


I was not Yeah, I was a huge because like when I was younger, I would always play like the I always played Minecraft and to me that was like the coolest thing.


Mhm.


And then when I grew up I was like, what am I doing?


Oh my god, that's still pretty big.


Yeah, I know, I noticed that. I was surprised.


It's still one of the top games out there and it's freaking nuts.


Yeah.


Then again it's probably cause there's so many mods out there and so on.


I can't play the game. It makes me feel nauseous and gives me a headache and hurts my eyes probably that's blocking nature and narrow field of view and so on.


Yeah. Career Oh, I see. Huh? That's weird. Yeah.


Yeah, because one of my friends has motion sickness so he can't play like cod and stuff like that because it's just like so fast paced.


Oh, I can't play like Fallout three or any like elder scrolls game because that makes me nauseous.


Oh, really?


Do you know what it is about them?


I don't know what it is about those specifically, but those games made on that engine somehow make me feel sick.


So it's just like Bethesda games in general or like just in Merano?


Uh huh.


That I don't take well to open World anyhow because I get overwhelmed cause there's too much going on and I need more sense of direction I guess overly inflated these days.


What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Open World Games there. They just kind of let you go.


Yeah. Almost everybody thinks they need to do open world and it's like let's go back to a little more structure.


Yeah. Yeah. Some games are certainly going there when they don't really don't need to. Um I don't know.


I I like there are games like, I guess like witcher that I think do it pretty well. Just because like, I don't know their worlds are so fun.


Mhm. Well RPGS almost fit that mold more. But there's like, I don't know, not even all those need to be open world, honestly.


Mm I think so.


Yeah.


Yeah, Maybe.


Which are three though.


That was a beast of a game. I never even played it very much, but from I understand there was a beast of a game better but Okay, Well, 2077 was just coming out to Yeah.


Yeah. I think it's still because on steam, they're like very rarely games are like really popular games have overwhelmingly positive ratings, I think. Which is still has that Yeah, I got delayed what, like three times now.


Yeah. Well then the World Warcraft expansion is about to hit next week as well.


Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, my my friends love well, but I could never get into, well, I don't know, I think it's too retro.


I played off and on since the alpha, the problem is that they destroyed the lore along the way and destroyed a lot of what made the original game so great along the way, they added some a lot of improvements and stuff, but they overdid something's made stupid decisions elsewhere and refused to apologize for any of it by the way.


Yeah. Right.


Yeah, Blizzards been taking a lot of heat for that. I know with hearthstone, they've also done some things to piss a lot of people off nicely.


Yes, especially. Well now they've also removed its focus and core linking toward Warcraft and Warcraft Lore in general. And they're opening up more to generalist stuff and that's a mixed bag seen it was called Her Stone and as kind of was deeply made as a wild card game whereas a Warcraft card game, so I never did get to lead though.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I I can understand that. I know of people who are like, it's just like so vastly different from a lot of like popular genres. It's kind of like just weird.


I just don't like to click click click crap.


I don't know, I found the leak fun.


I don't know why. Maybe it's because it was one of the first games I was exposed to, so I didn't really have much experience with other genres I guess.


Ah have you played Smite?


But yeah, leak. I likely, yeah, I place my hand far too small now.


I like Smite but the players are atrocious.


A very small community now.


Yeah they give up at the first sign of trouble. Like I'm out vote, vote to forfeit.


Yeah. I think it's so funny. It's like the easiest to tell people, you just say like one thing and they're all just like that's it.


Yeah. And then they don't know when to pull back there playing it like a shooter, they don't know when to recall, they don't know when to push and then it ends up being a what the hell are we doing kind of game? Yeah.


You know, I place my very rarely I only play with like when I know I have like for other people to play with, which doesn't happen very often.


Oh yes, don't play with Brando's. Oh no.


Yeah.


Mm.


Yeah. The puppies are kind of yeah.


Which is sadly all I normally play with. I literally was playing the joust game mode with a single lane and two of them were in the jungle, two of them were constantly in the jungle, leaving me to die in the single lane repeatedly.


Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah.


Now mind you only one should be in the jungle Out of three on 3.


It's like what are you guys doing over there?


Yeah. People people people and like especially mobius I guess they just really want to be the one to like do it all. So when two people like that aren't the same thing.


You know what I want to be the one that survives and wins?


Yeah. I mean whatever, some people just aren't team players still could eventually, they'll find getting too hard. Like I never win.


Yeah, that's basically that's basically my kate.


Like I don't know why but I never win.


Because what happens is I get teamed up with these people repeatedly and I lose and my score goes so negative that they keep putting me with more crappy people and then I keep losing.


Yeah. Yes. Yeah.


It's a vicious cycle, I can't get out but I'm going to cry.


Yeah. Uh huh.


Yeah how can you fix the player base that it's kind of a big green thing.


Uh They probably won't ever fix that, but there's the hope I guess. Yeah. Yeah.


You either visually start playing with the people that know what they're doing.


Especially.


So you get that rank up and get out of that or you just keep going into the vicious cycle.


Yeah. I don't, I don't think the player basis to largest right now. You see it, they made a cross platform.


It's it's a pretty fairly large game. So it's cross platform on all major platforms now.


That's mhm Oh.


Yeah, all Nintendo Playstation, Xbox and PC all play together now.


Oh. Well, I didn't realize.


So it's it's that paladins is doing pretty well.


Yeah. Oh yeah. Almost 20,000 players.


Yeah. I said it's pretty decent size still.


Yeah. How well they do? They did A T. M. And teeth collab What?


Why? Yeah, it said they're doing pretty damn well honestly right.


Okay with it? I'm sorry. Yeah. Maybe I'll get back into it at some point.


Just just make sure to bring friends. Just don't play the Randolph.


Yeah. Even with league, which I think is like somewhat decent at like I, I can't play it with random people there just to the to toxic that you brainless. Like they just, uh, it makes my skin curl.


Sometimes you wonder if a monkey could play the game better.


I know it really is like that.


Right, can I have a monkey on the other side please?


Sometimes the, these people are, yeah.


One monkey please.


Okay.


I'll order one monkey. No, I need to.


Yeah.


Sorry to Okay.


Yeah. Honestly, they should do a study on that sometimes. See if they can put teach monkeys to play mill booze.


Oh my God, don't give them any ideas. I mean they already had they already had a bulk of people playing Pokemon on twitter before.


I am like, okay. Yeah, yeah.


Yeah. Put twitch plays Pokemon, you haven't heard of that?


It's where the chat plays it, right?


Yeah, but it's like, it was so stupid that they actually beat like several of them now and they're still doing it.


Yeah. There was, hey, are they still doing? I haven't been following Pokemon muk.


They each new one that comes out they're going to do Yeah.


Yeah, I can't imagine just like that one guy that stays there 24/7 just spamming like left, left, left, left, left, left.


Yeah. Yeah.


I can't imagine.


It's mostly experimentation at its worst.


Listen God how I envy people.


I would not want to sit there in that chat for any length of time watching those commands and a computer trying to calculate which way to actually go right while the character is just doing this kind of number, like caesar, like stuff.


Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see.


I, you looked up and looked it up on wicked the other day and I didn't know they did more than one, but apparently they're going all the way through them.


Oh, the entire Pokemon franchise, jesus christ.


Yeah. Yes. There whoever is running as dedicated.


Mm Let's see. How many have they beat. Oh my God, what?


Yeah, that's why I say there's people dedicated to that and they've already gotten that far, which is shocking.


Well dude, two, it started in 2014. Cool Season. The season season seven. Okay.


Okay.


In the world. I think the completion times are okay.


Yeah.


Like this.


Okay. This is kind of sad. Two.


I know. I like to that just the other day you're probably looking at the Wikipedia entry and it's like it's messed up.


Yeah. 50 weeks okay with it.


It's like okay, that took an entire year. We're done.


Yeah, I played the game for 50 weeks straight.


Oh, You know, saddest people playing the game for 50 weeks probably still haven't beat it. And these guys that are just left left, left, left left are beating it somehow. Yeah. Like what?


I wonder if it's asleep. Just like the old guard now the veteran guard are Yeah.


I don't know, but there's an inherent, there's an inherent delay to these streams to So they'd be saying left when they need to go right.


Mhm. Let's see.


I don't know how long anyone can sit there and not lose her sanity watching that at attempt to be played.


Yeah. God.


Yeah. Oh my God, the channels live right now.


Yeah. They're probably doing one right now.


Yeah. Yeah, the cyberpunk at two, I don't know if I'll buy cyberpunk. It seems very overhyped will not overhyped since it's not out yet.


Well the company has a big good pedigree though is why that company has not put out a dud yet basically.


But that is true. Witcher was I believe like delayed three times as well, so. Mhm. Yeah.


So I'd be shocked if this one became a dud when they're so focused on quality and that's why it's getting such high because it's the next game and series out of a company known to put out nothing.


Go. Uh huh. All right.


But basically blockbusters.


Mhm. Once released it something yeah, projects through it.


I mean when they release a game, they don't release too many of them. When they released one, it's done well each time.


Yeah.


Yeah wow.


Actually, I played some of Because I wasn't that into the Witcher franchise, I played like Witcher three, but I could never get into the other witcher games.


There's a lot of lure there to be had and the first one saw her cake and everybody's like play through the first one so you can know the story and then other people like you don't really have to and it's like, yeah, and then it's like why don't they re master the first one in like the second or third engine so you can actually play the damn thing and enjoy it somewhat great.


Yeah, it's let's crp Yeah. Happy. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, my friend is really into retro games so I can't stand like the old timey graphics.


I'm a collector, I have all that crap and I play them still too, so well, I can probably, I don't know, it might depend on how old you are too in terms of that.


Thanks. Really? Oh my God, I don't I don't know, I can't get accustomed to it. I play french Yeah, I played with Lake when I was a young guy.


Um if you grew up with it or not, that kind of thing, a lot of the lot of the indie games are even going to that styles that might tell you something on that, not only is it cheaper to produce, you can make better graphics than back in the day and it's a lot of people just like that nostalgic vibe.


Yeah. Uh huh Yeah. Uh it's been noticing Nintendo has been re mastering a lot of their games early, supporting them with, which Yeah, yeah.


What what's what's frustrating me is, I don't even have a Nintendo switch because they're so exorbitantly priced right now, but they have that Battle Royale mode of uh Mario brothers right now um Super Mario 25 or something to call it, and they're going to discontinue it early next year, you're giving away for free and it's a battle Royale mode of the game, which actually somebody else had done previously and then you know how to them shut it down and now the Nintendo is doing it and they're going to just shut it down.


Uh huh Oh that is kind of strange.


It's like, why would you even do that? You put the money into my investment and making this, you gave it away for free, Players are enjoying it and you're just gonna pull the plug. I mean, they already announcement came out that they weren't going to have it around forever and it's like if people are liking to let them play it, maybe sell some skins or bonuses or something.


Mhm Yeah, why would they do? Uh Okay, okay.


But I mean you already put the time and money into what's going to hurt to let them play it because I wouldn't mind playing it.


Yeah, Subaru yeah, mhm Yeah, you can do, how much are they currently like?


I just don't have a switch right now. by the time I probably would end up maybe even having a chance at anyone, it'll be gone. They were gone for like four or 500 right now.


4, 500?


They're having trouble importing enough and producing enough right now to do Covid unless you want the light and anybody that buys the light deserves to be screwed over because those joycons and controllers keep breaking you by the light and the controllers are built in and you can't remove the controllers.


I see. Oh dear. Yeah. Damn right. Yeah, yeah, fortunately I was able to get done uh Yeah, that makes sense.


Yeah, that's not a good idea. They're notorious for breaking, I wouldn't buy one with them attached, I just wouldn't Mhm.


I've been I've been looking to buy like I don't know, I really, I was thinking about getting a VR kind of deal but I'm not sure how I feel about it.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's just a fad that's Mhm. Going away quicker than it came upon us.


You think so? I think there is pretty cool.