Um That's so crazy how things like that happened, like they just kind of fall into place.


No, right, it's hard to please, you know, she hit, she was in preschool, so that helps.


Yeah, well that's what I've been thinking.


Uh huh, wow it.


I'm like okay if we do have another kid, how I'm, she's gonna be in kindergarten, like it's going to be free.


Mhm, wow.


I'm gonna be totally, she's gonna be totally and we're not totally independent but much more so as like a two year old.


Mhm. Oh no, for sure that they hit that two year old mark and all of a sudden they can independently play for a really long time.


Yeah. Yeah, you can go in the room and actually do something else more than five minutes.


Yeah, you could do something else. Hmm. And then, yeah, every year after that you get a little bit more of your time.


I know.


Yeah.


And we're still breastfeeding at the, at the moment, we're like working on winning but not yet because she's not even a year.


Yeah. Uh huh, mm. Uh huh. Yeah.


But I even just thinking about that, I'm like to be able to just like I could new for the day for the weekend and you don, I don't have to pump like that even is a huge amount stuff.


Right. Yeah. Still here. Like I could just go now complaining. Yeah, it would be a future.


I'm like forthwith also trying to hold on to it at the same time.


Yeah, I'm just uh yeah, and then, right, hey, that the 16 month old I nanny for, she's still twice a day.


So I don't because I don't want to rush it and then be like, oh man, I miss it, you know, I don't get it anyway, but I want to make sure I don't do it too fast for either of us right found or feeds to three feeds. That was all her too. So I was like, okay, okay, uh huh.


Uh mm.


I'm thinking we will. So we have like, it's like morning, noon and night essentially. So I'm thinking maybe we'll just cut out that day feed and then, because the morning and night I don't mind doing, it's the day ones that I'm like, okay, okay, fine.


Mhm Yeah, little today.


Yeah, because it's, it interrupts what you're doing, but in the morning it's like we both just got up at night, I have to do it to put it to bed and then I go, oh, hang out.


Yeah, and go to sleep.


So it's like, yeah, yeah.


It makes the brain so smart. Too good for.


And it's, there's so many benefits. I'm like, what?


Mhm Yes, don't worry about what anybody says.


What's a few more months of just morning and night, you know? Oh no, but I can certainly mind.


Do not work with anybody's opinion. Oh my gosh, So many opinions right now. No.


Oh my God, I've been waiting. I would like when I would ever do it in public, I was just waiting and like, please someone say something like Mhm Yeah, pretty much.


Did you, did you get that militant? Just like bring it up, are you? Do you?


I wish I had that or something. That's like, please talk to me like, please just give me a reason to go off on someone.


I don't. I respect my daughter on the airplane ones.


Oh, that's hard.


Yeah. Sitting beside myself well. And I kind of was like, yeah, it was threw a blanket over me and the guy next to me because it was a stranger.


Mhm.


He's like, do you need anything?


Yeah.


It can I help? Like, you know, he was legitimately like, did I need to move like a tray or like, no, I'm cool.


Okay.


He's like, thank you, appreciate your more mugs.


Do you like better than you being like disgusting? You're like, actually all right though are when people say like someone comments and they're like, you like put it away or something like that.


Ever heard? No?


And then the mom stops and so the baby's screaming, I don't like strangers are like looking and they're like, sorry, he won't let me feed my kids.


Yeah. Here you go.


So what can I do?


Album defending him.


All right.


Sorry.


Yeah. The guy is getting offended is one thing the women getting offended is a totally other thing.


Oh, I think I did.


I love that day. No.


I can't even comprehend like I can't compromise words.


See. Mm Yeah, wow.


Oh my God, woman getting the karens of the world so we speak.


No, it's that it's that kind of my husband.


Yeah.


I was just talking about the freedom of opinion right now. Freedom.


Too much of a freedom of I'd say.


Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like how do you how do you limit someone's opinion?


Mm Wait it's certain way we could do that.


Yeah. I don't I know, right.


But yeah it's just for me it's just that lack of civility these people mm there's a 1% Oh my God.


Is there something there's got to be something we can do. Seriously? That's what I don't understand the most. I'm like whatever, you can have your own opinions, You can be pissed off about something, whatever, but how you gonna go up to the counter and cough in someone's face right now? Or like storm off and say you want to call them the security and the manager for somebody who is literally just doing their job.


Ah yeah that entitlement in the just what my skin because it's so can't you august moon?


Yeah. Mm It's yeah. Yeah, I look, but I see it. I just, I just like as you can see, I'm speechless, I can't think of word makes me so angry.


I know there's especially with everybody just trying to get through right now, it's like making anyone's life tougher right now infuriates me.


I'm like just leave them alone. But seriously, my fiance works a target. So it's been essential since day one and it's been like a shit show for him.


Uh huh.


Like he's had to do so much work and everybody's crazy.


Right.


And so when I see people like yelling at essential workers, I'm like, do you even like think about what they're doing, like what they're going through right now to give you the service that you're trying to get.


Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


Like I don't as you yeah like we have this whole like sanitizing routine when he comes home like uh Yeah pretty much.


Mhm. Yeah risk that they take every day. Well that's good the whole stripping down and hold them off.


Yeah comes in the door, takes off his clothes like at the door he goes in the room and takes off his clothes and changes and then goes and washes his hands and then we sanitize every door knob and everything he's touched because on do something to help.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know even if it doesn't really help it feels like it helps you like me, you might be washing off the flu or a mercenary or something else.


Yeah if it doesn't eliminate every germ it's at least helping get rid of most of them because it's not gonna hurt clean yourself more you know right or just dirt.


It's been maybe he doesn't need it.


Like literally anything is better than nothing.


Yeah.


That was the problem with my my sister who is now presumed positive.


Mhm mm.


Um She her husband works out of shipyard up in Washington so it's a government um job and they have done nothing to help, literally.


Mhm. Right. Yeah. Uh huh Uh huh And of course not.


There have been I think six positive cases at work. They wouldn't tell them who it was, they wouldn't tell them what department they worked in, they wouldn't sanitize anything, but they did say oh you have to wear a mask and if you don't wear a mask you can't work but they wouldn't provide them. So yeah right.


That's great.


So it's just like okay we're just asking for anyone to have to and and they're not giving the money paid sick like extra people, he now has to quarantine with my sister and has to use all of his like vacation time and it's like about right our offense.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah and yeah, yeah, it's not taking care of their employees right now that have to work out in public, you know, I hope.


I'm like do we really need you to be working on the army now?


Come on. Yeah, I know what is essential.


What? Yeah. Yeah.


I mean, I think that's what everybody's asking. What is essential, wow.


Seriously. And then there are the things that you don't think about. Like I just watched the video of somebody on Youtube like sat down with some essential workers, funerals, funeral parlor people who have to go collect the bodies, thinks about that, but they're probably like one of the most essential out there with health care.


Mhm. Yeah, currently right now, yeah, and depending on where they are, they could be slammed I mean, but even just people not being able to go to funerals, my my cousin, they couldn't have a funeral, I didn't have anybody come.


It's just, yeah, you don't take off that thing today, but mhm. Yeah. That's Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah.


So you know, they kind of just did an online thing and and they did, you know, they didn't know flowers of course or anything like that. So they just asked for donations to um the to the hospital workers.


Mm um Uh huh.


Oh you know, that's all they could really do for her memorial and you know I mean Yeah, the you just have to send her off and collect her ashes and that's it and we'll still have to work and they have to be you think about they always deal with contamination, but this is different.


Yeah. Oh this is so different. And the fact that like with people not being able to breathe properly, what is that going to do to our society?


Sure. All right, I'm Mhm.


Like how are we going?


Monitor.


Because I saw someone on the internet somewhere saying like, well, but this is just we were raised to grieve this way so like you're gonna be fine without, it's like okay.


Mhm Uh huh.


Yeah, but you were raised to grieve that way.


Yeah.


So you think that it has to be a certain way and then that's taken away from you.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


I don't know what else to do like. Sure. Yeah.


In another country maybe they never have funerals, maybe they just like they move on and it's fine but in our society like that's how we cope with this, we have this celebration and so without it how do you how do you move forward?


Mhm. Help found himself. Yeah. And I think there's that there's still that arab anonymity for the people that are going, you know, occasionally we hear about someone oh this bus driver that complained that they needed to wear masks and there needed to be more restrictions.


He died of Covid, so we're a bit but you don't hear of like everyone else, you don't hear this grandma that didn't make it out of the retirement home and right, is that the new hospital?


Right. No I like the Yeah.


Mm I was even in we're talking about italy Italy like lost all its grandparents Oh yeah and everybody lost their grandparents uh lost bananas and papa's and it's just kind of like that, how does that affect your society moving forward when you don't have that elderly population?


Yeah. The and the reason that Italy got hit so hard in the first place is because they have so many it's like a high elderly population there. Yeah right. Like I like it takes out this whole problem like this whole generation of people.


Uh huh Moving forward and I know I don't know about you, but trying to keep my parents at home.


What does that do moving forward?


Uh huh It's really hard, all right, mhm Yeah, Mhm I'm working that yeah, how do you know mm was it something?


Right. Yeah. My parents are in their sixties but my mom also has Parkinson's but it's not it's not like in a high risk but you know she's not in great health but they're not really taking it that seriously, they're taking it okay. Like seriously if my dad's still working though, he's an essential worker because he works for Anton. But just yeah, I worry about them because my mom mom literally has told me she's like, I'm not gonna get it, it's fine. But I'm like mom, she's like, I don't get. Yeah, but this isn't the flu, this is something else. So maybe, you know, that's probably right. But there's something else.


Uh huh. Yeah, yeah, and my parents are in their mid to late seventies and you know how you guys doing?


Yeah. She's discovering one. Oh.


So we went to the store for four hours which was like well we wore our masks at my dad walking around with like a spray bottle of alcohol on his hip.


Oh god. I try to go so fast and I'm 23 good health. Like how? Yeah. But yeah.


Yes.


Yeah. Uh That's amazing.


Did he like squeeze your door handles and stuff before he touches? I want it all up.


I I usually do like I'm either wearing one glove and that's what I open like doors with.


Uh huh. Mhm.


Or I bring uh like a sanitizing wipe and I just like real quick like the grocery card or something.


Like I put this size in my car.


Yeah. I have a bunch of little ones, like one in my car one and the like uh thanks.


Well. Uh huh.


I wanted my purse. Yeah. Yes and any time I touch anything it's like okay hurry like don't let them multiply life.


Mhm. We have this little hanging rack in our laundry room and it's just got our masks just trying let's every life.


But yeah that's something have um we have a 95 masks because we have them left over from there was a bunch of fires around here last year and so we had a couple of those but I'm like we can't keep using these, they're gonna stop working.


All right. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. I was we were using our 95 which aren't as good as in 95 but they're still okay. And I was just like, and we were leaving them in the sun, like maybe that help say at the time a little bit, but that's why we switched to the fabric just a week.


Yeah. Yeah we learn like yeah that's what I'm thinking I might do but we don't have a washer dryer yet.


Mhm. Uh huh.


That was one of the things because we moved into this place March 1st.


Uh huh. Uh huh.


So we were like gathering, gathering everything.


Yeah.


And like once we have finally really moved in then the pandemic it. So we're like okay I guess this is it, right.


Mhm. We really like this place because we're staying here.


Which thankfully we do and we have a yard now, so that's good, and the laundromat is within walking distance, so at least there's that.


Uh huh Oh, that's good. You know, I'm very grateful for outdoor outdoor space. I always say that I'm I can't imagine people living in apartment buildings and things like that, I'm like I have outdoor space, I have no complaints, honestly, I Mhm Uh huh Uh huh Oh gosh.


Yeah, yeah, that's what we're in a one bedroom apartment, like, crammed me, fiancee baby and our big dog, like it was tight. And so yeah, so we were like, thank God, like my mom, you know that stuff like, yeah, you moved up kind of a horrible time, but also the next time, older months, like, yeah, so I can't imagine not having a yard because that's all I've been doing is a disaster when we came in the yard.


Yeah. Oh my God. Uh huh. Yeah. Uh huh Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So I've just been like, fixing it.


Working out right, pop can get outside, everybody can breathe oxygen.


I was like, well, I guess my daughter, next thing to play outside, it gives me an excuse to play outside, but right, it's a good time for everybody.


Yeah. Okay, that's it. Oh goodness.


Okay, We made it to 30 minutes.


Did we make it to 30 minutes and we'll well, that's about one thing, Yeah.


I did. How do we? I know. Well, that's kind of the most like hot topic at the time.


Oh, I know you can do the uh you know what do you binge watching? But that's just a whole nother.


Right.


Yeah, well, awesome. Was fun talking to you.


Yeah. You, too. Do we just exit the tab or do we have to like all the questions?


I think we exit the tab and then we go back to that rate, yep.


Okay, well, healthy drink.


All right, we'll stay safe. You too right.


All right, good day. Bye.


No. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. All right. Thank you. Okay. Uh huh. But Mhm. Yeah. Mhm, mm hmm. Mhm. Okay. What's that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Mhm. Mhm. Right. Yeah.


Hello.


Hello? Can you hear me?


Yes I can.


I can hear you as well. All right. I didn't fly. Uh Nice to meet you.


My name is Kelsey, nice to meet you.


So, Kelsey. I'm gonna start the timer real quick just to make sure we hit that 25 minute mark. All right.


Sure sounds good.


All right. Uh This is actually my first any video for anything that I've done here and prolific. I probably joined last week on sunday, so it's completely new to me.


Yeah Actually to um I just joined from like Reddit and I saw like good reviews. So.


Yeah, that's what I found it. I think I found it on a beer money. Read it.


Yeah.


So, uh where are you located in?


Are you in the U.


God yeah I'm in florida.


S. That I'm a super okay. I'm up in Minnesota in the midwest.


Okay. How is the situation over there?


So what do you do it over here?


Huh.


Uh, Over here is fine.


We don't have a lot of stuff going on right now. I think our cases are pretty low, but nothing nothing's really changed with my situation since Covid started.


Okay that's good.


So for me, everything is still pretty normal.


Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. I feel like florida is pretty bad right now. Um No one's really like protecting themselves and just it's kind of crazy down here.


Yeah, I heard on the news that your case is down there were rising actually, I heard about that.


Yeah and there's a lot of like controversies because um a lady got fired because she was she refused to manipulate like covid data and yeah a lot of that stuff going on.


That was a little bit uh I was kind of worried when I saw that.


Yeah situation down here is kind of bad but hopefully it gets better.


Mhm. Mhm. So what is it that you do? Oh, you're all right. Thought your connection cut out there for a second.


Okay.


I was asking, what is it that you do for living?


Um I'm a student right now, I'm studying Yukon right now and I'm thinking of going into finance but like not 100% sure this like finance is crazy.


Okay. I'm obviously probably not a student, as you can tell. I'm in my mid thirties, so I'm done with that face. What are you going for? Yeah. Um What do you do? You Okay, What do you mean?


I am a rising second year.


What do you say? Finance is crazy.


Um So I'm like looking into doing I. B. And the timeline for recruitment is just like hyper accelerated. Um So if I want to do it I have to like figure it out now and start like applying for my junior internship like next semester.


Yeah, I'm not too football when you say I be you mean international business.


Uh Investment banking.


Yeah. Oh, investment banking. Okay. That's completely different than what I was.


Yeah basically you try to leverage like the companies balance sheet um to you kind of create debt to work on other projects and it's like more of the quantitative side with that stuff.


What are you doing? Investment investment banking. Mhm. Okay. I actually just started and sparks myself like a probably less than a month ago. So I I started to learn about all these terms and stuff like that so I know it leverages but that sounds kind of interesting.


Oh what are you trading on like Robin Hood?


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like Robin Hood very much. It's actually lost $100 the very first two weeks because I was being gone and went into a few penny stocks and that didn't pan out very well.


Oh right. Yeah. Yeah. I've been seeing on the news like a lot of people are investing in like bankrupt companies and just like ruining everything.


Yeah. Yeah.


It's pretty funny.


They invested in Hertz which was already banked from that did not go well that's not the one I invested and I invested in another one that I bought it in at like a pretty high price and I could have made a profit but I waited too long and then I lost about 100 blocks.


Yeah. Oh mm hmm. Yeah stocks is like gambling.


It's like a switch, I switch platforms still different one that I can do more long term stuff in and I'm breathing up more on it now than I was before.


Okay that's good.


So in terms of uh, Nikon, why do you, why do you choose that route?


Um So I kind of like political science but it's just like a sad field to go into because nothing really gets done. Um Just like a bunch of uh huh old people just yelling at each other uh looking out for themselves. So I feel like icons more applicable but also like big enough that I can have some time to figure out what I want to do.


So you, was that kind of what you wanted to do when you're going up? Or is that just kind of more forming knowledge? You're going to your college years?


Oh um I don't know. I think I never really knew what I wanted to do girl survive.


Yeah. I don't know. I wanted to be a teacher when I was going on and I'm not a people now, that's what I learned, actually get paid.


Uh Yeah teachers don't get paid a lot heavily mistreated.


Really horrible. And then I volunteered and uh, I got accepted to a teaching program, but I volunteered in a school for Britain. It was a little too much too much stress for me. So I, I gave that up.


So what are you doing now?


Oh, I'm uh alcohol drug counselor and I'm also therapist, so I kind of work with the co occurring populations.


Mhm mm. Yeah, I think that's really necessary.


Yeah.


No, I just like seeing people my age and people in high school like everything's going so badly, right?


Yeah. I mean, they, you know, the opioid epidemic is kind of has been rising for the past few years, so it's definitely an area of need.


Oh yeah.


But I think as far as in the schools for now, they're just changing the drugs because before it was more like the cannabis and it's still, a lot of, a lot of that is cannabis, but there Mhm. Kids, in my opinion, are getting into more varied drugs than they were back when I was going out.


Some yeah I know quite a few people who were on hard drugs and then like vaping is becoming really big thing.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Actually, if a kid came into my office and he said, I have a problem with vaping or nicotine as opposed to like cannabis most of the time, I would want to address the vaping over the canvas because that's actually more of a problem.


Yeah. Really?


Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't I don't care so much for cannabis uh and addressing that, but I'd rather have them off the nicotine, right?


Because they're more likely to spend more money overall and have more health problems related to that and actually likely to escalate to hire drugs compared to cannabis.


Mhm. Yeah. I feel like cannabis, it's not actually that dangerous, like it can be used for good things and it's not like as bad as a lot of other trucks.


Yeah. All right. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm a substance abuse counselor, but I usually use cannabis myself back when I was a teenager.


Oh I feel like cannabis might actually be better than alcohol.


So I kind of know the process. I got out of it. And so, you know, I kind of grew from that process and became a became a counselor probably because of that. Yeah, I would I would agree.


Probably is actually.


There's a in the United States there's a lot more alcoholics and people that have problems with alcohol compared to cannabis. Oh, I mean there's there's kind of a stocks on Robina that people can invest in them.


People are going crazy over that. So why have you invested in any of that or you're just you're just hearing about it because it's been on the news lately?


I I have not uh poor college student just like trying to stay up to date with the news and like what's going on.


Yeah. Okay. I guess if you're in that position, you can't really do much about that.


Yeah.


Are you staying at home then or you put you in like the dorms? Well, I guess I don't want to know how the dorms reward because of cold.


It.


Um Yeah basically everyone's home right now and yep the colleges kicked everyone out pretty early.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Um And most are like just finally starting to release like reopening plans.


Um They're pretty uh strange, but I guess it's a new era.


So yeah, so basically they're trying to like identify uh the dorms and move to like hybrid classes, so some of it will be online, so it will be in person depending on like I guess personal preference.


Does your colors have a plan yet? Yeah. Uh huh. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Talking about, how do you feel about it?


Um I think it's the best that can be done in this situation, but because colleges need money and like people are saying like, oh well they have like a few billion dollar endowment, like why don't they do anything?


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


It's like the endowments tied up in property and land. It's not like all liquidation and stuff.


Yeah. Surely your economics background.


No, honestly, most of this is just for my brother because he's actually hold up.


Yeah. Uh The conduction is kind of stuttering. I don't know if you're getting that on your end to.


Oh yeah, it's slightly. I'm just saying I get most of it from my brother because he's actually like working in the finance industry.


Okay. All right heart.


It's not really like. Yeah.


Mhm. Oh is that kind of is that kind of word you're getting the idea of about economics from uh Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. Mostly just because like I think we're both pretty similar in that we don't really know what we want to do. We just like I want to make enough money to get by. So um maybe like one or two years.


Mhm. How long has he, has he been working? Okay. Okay.


Yeah, it's a pretty fresh.


And do you think he he likes that kind of feeling this you feel like he's making a good enough income from that?


Uh Yeah, I think he's pretty happy where he is.


Okay.


Um He's a very like quantitative, mm hmm.


Okay. Yeah. You get yeah.


Just like typical banker kind of guy.


Yeah. Yeah I figured uh of course he's agent, so you got a bad thing going on there too.


Yeah. Uh Actually not really.


So you know I think it's interesting that uh you're doing economics because if if I would have gone back in time, I probably would have considered that because of how much I actually like investing right now and doing research on that.


Um, he didn't do that well in school. Mhm.


It's so amazing to to listen to some of these like or read some of these books and resources. I'd like spent a whole they looking at information and reading. And I've never really done a lot of that, that sort of thing for a very long time. So uh to me that that field is pretty cool compared to but some of the stuff that I've done and fast like you know, teaching the therapy and counseling stuff is okay right now. Um But I think maybe eventually I'll have to you have a lot more research.


Yeah, I mean every profession has its pros and cons, so yeah, I was born here.


Mhm. So are you are you native to the United States or did did you come here? Yeah. Don't move uh too personal.


Yeah.


Or do you mind telling me where your family came from?


Um my parents came from china.


Okay. Okay. Yeah. We're I actually came from Vietnam but I was not born here. I was born in Vietnam became their last nine.


Okay. Was it like uh Vietnam war kind of affected or not?


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, sort of. My uncle and grandfather actually came here after the Vietnam war because my my grandfather was he was a pilot for the south. And then when the north basically one you had it, he made some enemies. So I had to come over here to get away from that. So he brought my uncle and then my uncle married a person over here and they helped us immigrate probably like another 2030 years later because my uh 1995 because my grandmother and my father stayed home. I'm good now.


Okay.


Thank you. Yeah when I came here I knew three words in english. I said I knew boy girl and play and I knew I knew boy because that's what I was.


I had to know at least like what I was then a new girl because that's the opposite of what boy was and I knew flag because came before G.


And the the little book I was reading. So if you saw a girl on a page then you can see flag. So what happened? J. Mhm. Yeah that was weird.


So do you still speak fluent Vietnamese?


Yeah I still speak pretty fluent you know I don't use it very often because my parents when we were growing up they wanted us to use their music in the house all the time that but we never really followed follow that rule so we would always talk with each other in english and I don't use it as much, I can still kind of read it uh but I can barely write anymore so it's been a while.


Yeah. Have you been back to visit? Wow.


No my parents actually really hate the Communists. So they basically said they basically well to never go back.


Oh yeah.


Yeah they really hate the communist and I haven't been, I would like to go back but I haven't been able to save enough money to know that yet so that eventually my sister has gone back. She was working as a, as a teacher in japan permit and then she went back on a trip.


Okay. Okay.


So you know when we came here we had uh we had a layover in Chicago and we didn't know that we were supposed to get on another plane. So we got off that plane and wandered around in the airport for awhile, luckily we found this lady who who knew who knew how to speak Vietnamese and help us get on the plane that we're supposed to go to get to Minnesota, you know otherwise we would have been in a lot of trouble.


What, wow. Right.


But yeah, it was it was a weird thing learning english. My parents sat me in front of like this tape reporter or at this tape and they would play english taste for us for three hours every day, and that's how we learn english.


Uh huh. Did you go to like the social classes?


Yeah, I was uh I was a free lunch kid and also the sl kid because every time every time in the middle of the day they're like okay you kids and they pointed like four or five of us go to your cell and then we take off and go to your cell. I'm guessing you that you guys never had to do that.


Uh, no, I think my first language is english, but I'm not sure.


Okay. Uh huh.


But like my parents signed me up for chinese school and so I can still like read and write and everything.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.


Well.


Yeah. And you guys, you guys can speak naturally obviously. Right, okay, that's pretty cool.


Yes.


I think my brother and sister, my parents do the same thing with my brother and sister day because they were born over here as opposed to myself and my other brother who were who were born over there. So they were here didn't know anything uh about living over there or anything like that, so they had to learn some of the language, but that didn't last very long.


Yeah. It's always hard to like reconnect with your roots when you're not there for a while.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. How big, how big is that in your life?


Yeah.


So like your routes to china, is it like a major factor because I don't feel like I'm super connected to Vietnam or do I really care about it at this point?


Yeah. Mm. I think I feel more connected than a good majority.


Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we were talking.


Um just because since I was younger I just always liked learning the language and then I was always interested in like the politics because like especially now it's becoming increasingly reparable of it.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, it's a little crazy.


Um Yeah, so I just feel like I had like this advantage so I should use it and leverage it when I can.


Yeah, there's the leverage board again.


Oh yeah.


No, I think that's cool that that you're kind of invested, that there's a part of me that wants to be, but there's a part of me that hates how my country kind of turned out. Yes, sir, to me it's just a bad place and honestly, I I view all the Vietnamese people, it's like scammers. Uh yeah, I don't like my own race very much sometimes, because the perception is sometimes actually two, we're always trying to make the most the most profit out of any situation, you know bartering something that we kind of screw screw other people of all races over sometimes because so I don't really like the mental life.


Oh. Mhm. Yeah, I feel like a lot of asian immigrants have that kind of yeah, mentality yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. Okay and don't get me wrong I'm I'm a scabrous myself, I used to sell stuff on Ebay like uh imported Dvds and that I was selling because I wasn't supposed to do that on a platform so that's like the kettle, the podcast that kind of black or whatever or person what?


Yeah. Yeah, I mean sometimes it's just hard to survive, but um not personally, like sometimes, like there's like small things like when I was in the airport coming back from college, like people would intentionally avoid, Sorry?


Okay. Have you got any like slack or be trying to use? And has there been any backlash against them? You like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah.


Ah I was just saying, I feel like the people who are that close minded like aren't worth talking to.


Oh exactly. Yeah. Well you're you're saying that people were avoiding you at the airport, coming back from where?


Yeah. Oh, from college it was just small things.


Oh from college and so it was like really noticeable that they were trying to avoid you. Okay.


Like I had an NPC next to me and I saw someone looking at it and then they looked at me and walked away, so it works for me.


Oh that's that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. No I think that's great but like I've been seeing some surveys to about like maybe it was a prolific or want to do the sights but it was like they uh how's your what's your view on china? And it was like a covid survey right? And I guess they're trying to just got people's reaction to like the connection of covid with the chinese people.


Mhm.


And I wonder I sometimes wonder how people respond especially if if they're like occasion or people that are here just you know native to us have that.


Yeah. Yeah, I think it's it's really easy to get caught up in like your own bubble. Um But a lot of people don't realize that just like there's so much politics at play and everything and there's always like two sides, like people in china aren't dumb either, like they know there's like censorship stuff going on, so um they feel like a little less than a month.


Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I figured that was left. So how long have you been doing the these sort of studies here? Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Okay.


Yeah.


And how do you get interested in that? Yeah.


Uh Honestly ward because I kind of have a part time job, I'm working for my lab remotely.


Well, well, interesting I guess.


Um but then it's just like the work is really monotonous.


Um I came on here and I just like taking random quizzes fun, there's like some interesting ones, so it's kind of interesting to see like where people are researching and looking into, oh I'm still doing the lab work, just like on top of it, like well I'm watching Youtube or something, just like there's some interesting ones.


So you left or you took a break from your monotonous work at the lab to do monotonous surveys and other past I'm for that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.


Like I had to do like a color dot perception thing.


Yeah. Yeah, mm.


Um So yeah.


No, there is some really cool and I remember seeing some, some of them where I was like, oh I want to see if my other family members can do this one. Yeah. Uh just because they're so fun and I've actually been liking doing the surveys just because mostly they're pretty fun and a little money on the side doesn't hurt.


Yeah. Mhm.


All right, so how big is your family?


Um Four people including me, my brother.


Yeah. Well just your parents and your brother. Uh huh.


No.


My family is we have I have three siblings and then I have many uncles because both of my grandfathers had two wives.


Mhm.


And actually my grandfather, the one that immigrated, my dad's father, the one who immigrated in the seventies ish was uh he never actually divorced my grandmother, he just married a new another person when he came to the United States, which which was a little weird.


Oh okay.


So when she came to us like you know, 15, 20 years later, she kind of knew that he had already been married or had been dating this person and she just like hey to discuss afterwards, but both of them had probably like 6 to 8 kids between two. So I got a bunch of extended family.


So that's nice though because I have no extended family like in the States, so it's kind of lonely sometimes, but like you find your own community uh nope, I have something in europe, but the rest is still in china.


Mhm. Really? You guys have no extended family in the States? Mm So I have have you gone back over there or your family going back over that?


Yeah, we go back every like three or four years maybe.


Mhm. Mhm. How expensive is the truck?


Um So my mom has, she, she works with the tour company, so we get like really cheap deals on tickets.


Yeah. Okay. Yeah.


Um So I think usually if you can get it at a good time, it's maybe less than 1500 but we can usually get even less than that.


Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh. Yeah. Her person. Okay.


Yes actually it's a lot higher because of yeah because of the travel ban and yeah this restrictions on travel.


I'm gonna say that's a little bit less now just because of Colin it is uh Okay. Yeah. No that makes sense not to but you keep that shit.


Uh huh.


So well we've we are at 25 minutes and 42 seconds now. So we're past the time.


Yeah. Well. All right.


This was kind of cool. I'd like to I like just talking to people just because I haven't really been able to do that as much as outside of my client.


Oh right.


It's actually working has been keeping me saying so I would feel really weird if I wasn't able to talk with people.


Yeah.


Yeah. Cool. And so I really appreciate you sharing some of your information with me and I wish you luck in your economics degree or whatever degree you choose to pursue.


Thank you.


I wish you luck in your curio cell.


Okay.


Okay. Right.


All right. So now I just gotta figure out oh let me deal with a real quick.


Do we just close out of this or?


Yeah. I think we're supposed to just close out of it and then complete the survey. All right.


Okay. All right.


See you later.


See you.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh, mm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, to do. Okay. Dr did you? Yeah. Mhm. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh okay. Mhm. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. No. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm, mm hmm. Yes. Yeah. Oh. Mhm. Okay.


Yeah. Hi there.


Hi, how are you?


I can't hear. Yeah, I'm good. How are you?


Good.


Yeah. So you've been working for prolific for a while.


Um No actually I just kind of started so it's been about maybe two months now I think.


Yes. All right. This is one of the braver ones, I think.


Yeah.


Have you tried Mturk also?


Yes. But so I'm going to ask.


So are you in high school or college college is my Yes.


College University of Hawaii, University of Hawaii, Yeah.


Okay. And where do you go? Of which one? Oh, are you in Hawaii? I would love to come down.


Where are you located right now?


Hey, we're in Los Angeles. So I've made the trip to Hawaii from here, but I need to go back.


Oh, I see. Mhm.


How's the weather over there?


Hot.


Uh huh.


Hundreds. And I mean there's no humidity. So I'm from actually the Ohio.


Mhm.


So my summers have been humid and hot.


Mhm Uh huh, wow, I'm sure you have the ec blasting man.


So this is different and I like it better than the humidity, but now it's like 100 degrees today and said it. So, yeah. No, we, we don't. You see, we when the Coronas coronavirus started after all our events, because this is a condo complex and we are afraid because I don't know.


Uh huh. Oh I see.


Nobody seems to know any real answers. So we had blocked them all.


Right, right, Yeah.


And so that's how we've been and we open up everything at night so we can get it cold by the so we're okay.


Oh okay, that's good.


Just, you know, it'll be in the nineties the rest of the week, so we'll survive.


Mhm. Oh yeah, yeah, secondary education currently, so yeah, hopefully becoming a teacher and you know, maybe teaching middle school or high school um right now I'm sort of undecided.


But so can I ask what you're studying, right? Yeah, awesome. My Well, it's all Mhm. You're going to stay in Hawaii and teach there.


I mean it'd be nice if there were other opportunities that, you know, travel abroad or even in the mainland.


Mhm. Yeah. What made you want to go into education?


Um I think just a passion for teaching, I mean a lot of my previous teachers have inspired me before and so, you know, just that sort of spark that you can create within a student that really inspired me to become a teacher and make a difference.


Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay. Well, I was a teacher, so that's why I'm interested.


Oh, uh huh.


I taught for 10 years in Ohio, and then when we moved out here, my son was 4.5 and then I home schooled him until last year, which was his freshman year in high school.


Oh, wow, How do you enjoy that experience?


So I got to him. Yes, Absolutely, Absolutely. It's it's, you know, when you're looking at it a different point in your life, you see things differently and you see how it, oh, that's what they were really wanting us to learn. You know, I mean it really is different and so, yes, it was a great experience, but we found them also a terrific high school that we're very pleased with.


Right, Mhm, that's good.


So we're glad we made the transition to. Yeah. Yeah. Um And I have my brothers, um wife's family, all they live in Maui and both her parents were teachers and the brother in law lives there now and he's a teacher.


Mhm.


So it must be a good profession there to go into with jobs.


Oh, wow, mm.


I mean, is there is there a lot of jobs for teachers?


Um well, I mean it's kind of difficult right now during this coronavirus situation.


Well that, yes, that changes things.


Yeah, I mean, I've been, you know, hearing on the news with teachers struggling and even within the public school system, in a way, there's a lot of pushback among teachers to push the start date because, you know, teachers just don't really know what the proper safety and health procedures will be in the classrooms.


Mhm. Yeah. Right. Well, yeah. I don't think the officials know either. I think there's something that's Yeah, it is.


Yeah, so I feel for them, I mean, it's tough being a teacher during this time. I mean, you know, a lot of them are risking their lives to teach these Children and, you know, just some extreme, you know, they're even writing their death wills and you know, it shouldn't be a profession where, you know, you need to risk your life in order to help the next generation.


Yeah. Absolutely. Mhm. Yeah. All right.


So, you know, that's a lot to think about.


That's right. Are you doing methods or anything like that where you would have gone into the classroom this year at all next year?


Um, that would be next year actually.


Okay. So you're not because I wondered how that would then relate to, you know, future teachers being trained.


Yeah. Brain wrong.


You know, that would because I mean, they're saying you're the younger group and g you don't get it very bad, But I still think you do.


Yeah.


I.


It's still risky.


Yeah, Absolutely.


Okay. Well, do you think if you were actually higher teacher, would you go back to the classroom this year?


No, I mean, I just feel like there's too much risk.


I mean, even though, you know, they say that my age category is likely to be more immune to the virus or at least have milder symptoms. I mean, you still hear reports about, you know, these did these symptoms that, you know, people in their twenties or thirties and living healthy lifestyle still, you know, receiving this virus as if, you know, it's about to take their life and you know, I really don't think that we should be, you know, playing a gamble and that kind of things.


Which fruit? Mhm. Yeah. Do you think the distant learning though is appropriate? Do you think that it can be done?


Um, it's been a struggle for me actually because I'm more of an active learner.


Yeah. Mhm.


And so I guess, I mean it's an appropriate step to take in sort of substituting, um, you know, lecture learnings or what not, right.


Mhm.


You know, there's only so much interaction you can do, like videos you call and it just, it's just a different experience and you're not able to really engage fully within the learning environment.


Mhm. Uh huh. Mhm. You feel that that's that's missing as far as the connection?


Yeah. Well, is your teachers keeping it to just lecture type teaching? Is that how they're approaching this and mm hmm.


Um, a lot of them have tried doing like 300 to 400 like participant zoom calls, but to some extent they just feel like it's ineffective. So they've sort of left it to our own devices and just sort of assign different reading chapters to um, as homework.


And you know, we basically have to have the self motivation during this time and that itself is difficult.


Yeah, absolutely. So do you because I agree. I think that that's when so we home school using using virtual schools for some of the years meaning that there were teachers and and we did the online distant like learning all along.


Right, right, right.


Um and self motivation is the thing that I feel my son got from doing all that because you know, he knew it was it was on his shoulders as far as even back in first grade that your job is to learn how to write or your job is to, you know, that was so it did bring that out in him. So I thought it was a positive thing because if you think about life, I mean when you get your first job and all that, I mean you you're going to have to be self motivated self to figure it out. So I do think it's a good skill and if you value, you know, if you take it in like that, that you're getting a new skill that you can apply, then, you know, I guess picked the lemons to lemonade out of lemons, you know, pick the good price.


Mhm. Right.


But yeah.


Great. Mhm.


So have you traveled a lot?


Um, No, not recently.


Not really?


I mean maybe the last time I traveled was three years ago. I mean it's been a while. So, um, actually to visit relatives up in Japan.


Where do you go? Okay. All right.


So that was a nice experience.


Yeah. Was that the first time?


Um, is um, no, it's actually the second time.


Okay.


So it was a nice experiences during the spring. We stayed around like the Tokyo area.


Mhm, mm hmm.


So it was kind of big me and you know, we got to see different attractions shopping. You know, even different types of foods.


Yeah. Do you think you would want to ever move back there? I mean, in a sense of security, that means your family's there.


Mm hmm.


So would you survived?


I guess it would be a little difficult for me because I don't speak japanese ruin me. So I guess there's a language barrier, but at the same time, you know, they also have um secondary language opportunities for teachers up there and so, you know, like teaching abroad started programs and so, you know, that might be something that I might want to look into later on.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Because it would give you have something to kind of route you down to start, you know, So that's nice.


Right, right, right, mm hmm.


Instead of just randomly and yeah. Yeah. Well, we, we had a, my husband's and musician and we had a cruise scheduled this spring which obviously got canned, We were supposed to tour the british isles in Ireland and you know, all up in there, which would have been amazing, but mhm.


Mhm. Yeah, sounds like it would have been like a spectacular trip.


And not, yes, last year we went to Australia for the trip and that's Sydney was one of my favorite cities, ever, ever, ever, ever. It was just really a cool city and nice people and um food.


Mhm. Yeah.


I really, yeah, I wasn't that blown over by their food presentations I guess.


Mhm.


I don't know right.


Uh what kind of food do they have them?


Well, the barbecue BBQ foods are a big part of it, but they really are just a mishmash. There's not a whole lot.


Oh.


I mean the vegemite is the, you know, their big thing, well it's not edible, um but there was nothing that stood out to be specifically of them really.


Uh huh. Oh, mm, I see.


Whereas like in Japan. Yes that would be terrific to you know what but so but hopefully we can get back to traveling and yeah I I hope even by next spring things because next year's cruises spain and Portugal and africa and so that one I wanted to but terrible.


Yeah, I mean, hopefully within, you know, maybe at least the next year or two, that would be nice. But yeah, how's the coronavirus situation in California?


They're not control, it's not controlled there.


Mhm um Mhm.


Um I mean I have some personal opinions but I think that when the protests and the rioting started the mindset, the urgency to stay home and do all these things when I and I I just you know because if they're allowed to do that then I'm allowed to go to my friend's house and have a barbecue and no battery and I just think that's where we're at so hopefully we can snuff it out.


Right. Yeah. Right, It's a double standard, yeah.


But no, but the thing that concerns me is the death rates are going up and I know that they have found ways to treat it and all this so why, you know that, that to me, I don't care if you take the cases and they're saying it's all these young kids that are getting it here, but then why is the death rate going up?


Mhm. Mhm.


So that concerns me a lot.


Right, right.


But now as Hawaii schools actually going to have any in session, are they totally distant learning?


Yeah.


Because each state is Mhm.


Um, yeah, they're planning right now to push back the semester from the first time, the start date from the first week of august until the third week of august, so I believe around august 17th, if I'm not mistaken, and they just sort of, you know, did this, you know, relatively quickly, because initially, I guess once they started receiving the pushback, a petition was going around um, having teachers from the public school system to sign it and have like a board meeting to discuss and vote on pushing back the start.


Me, I mean, at least in that sense it gives teachers more prep time and, you know, being able to make more accommodations within the classrooms for students.


Mhm.


But the thing that sort of concerns me is how are they going to fit the same amount of students within that classroom if they're going to have desks, you know, three ft apart.


Uh huh. Right, Right. That yeah, something doesn't make sense there in just but Hawaii is doing okay with the numbers, aren't they?


Right?


I know, yeah.


Um, recently we've been seeing cases in the hundreds. Um, this has been going on for like three days now, um because beforehand it was relatively within mm 40 to 60 range.


Who is?


And then all of a sudden I don't know if you've heard but Hawaii recently became under a hurricane threat this past weekend.


Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Douglas.


And so Right. So after that I just because there was a delay in testing and clinical facilities were closed, the case numbers started to take up.


Right. Oh yeah, I don't know if that's just backlog type of stuff because or is it really new case?


So I think even yesterday it was within like 100 and sixty's and so. Right.


See that that's the part how they're recording all this. It's not it's not done well. I mean it's too confusing because that part of the information needs to be part of the whole picture when you as a citizen are just looking at it and right now you're thinking, gosh, it's taking up.


Right. Right. Right.


I'm not going anywhere, you know? Whereas if they had explanation, you might think differently, you know, is following right?


Right.


I I don't know. I'm I'm disappointed in our system that we weren't better prepared. I think literally isn't that the C.


Yeah.


D. C. S job is to prepare for countryside, you know?


Countrywide type things and they've had ideas that would work.


And but I also I found during all of this has been interesting the levels of what government parts are responsible.


When?


So like the federal versus the state versus a local and I find that fascinating. I mean I know we learned it but I didn't really ever pay enough. Let's see it work in action.


Right. Right.


And I'm surprised at how the local level is so important. Like when I would vote, I wouldn't vote for mayor. You know who, I don't even know these guys, they don't pay attention, but right now that is like our most important person in our life and it's like my better study them next time around.


Mhm. Right. Right.


I don't like the job he's doing. So I'm like, ok, I know what my task, I think it's in a couple of years that he's out of there, so, but mm yeah, I agree.


Brain when? Mhm. It makes it even more I guess sort of interesting because this year is an election year. And so what I'm thinking is, you know, because of what's going on within our government and how it's playing out into our lifestyles that a lot of people are going to sort of start to realize that, you know, government plays an important role in our lives and it's important to elect the leaders who we want to be. So we'll see great.


I hopefully we have a lot of turnout this year and it, um, I I still don't know if it's going to bring that many changes, but it's the right direct as far as um, I'm surprised at how many laws are state laws like how, how much of this was based upon the state's response in the states doings as far as how we handle this virus.


Yeah. Right. Right, mm hmm.


I thought it would be a federal thing. And it isn't, I mean they can support, they can give money and give supplies, but they can't make rules about it.


Wave. Right. Yeah.


And I think I find that interesting to that. I don't know, you just kind of assume, you know, the president can make the rules, the rules, but it's not true.


And and obviously the states that have made decisions early on are the ones.


Right.


I mean our death rate really for the size of our state of California is very low. So he obviously did make some right decisions in early part and he did, he shot his timing san Francisco shutdown way early before everybody else they were the first.


So those actions really you can see the difference and um, you know, hindsight, you can say you're glad he did and all that, but I don't know, and it concerns me though now places that were okay, like Wyoming and uh Montana, Wyoming Solo, but the summer, I know three different people that, that was their vacation, they drove up there and then I noticed their numbers like when sky high and I'm like, people are bringing it to them, they should down their borders and you guys kind of done that when you have the tourists, you know the Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's what it's all about, yep, yep.


Right, Right, Right. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right. We've had to shut down tourism basically completely. And it's had a huge economic impact on our local businesses and lives. I mean, a lot of people are losing jobs left and right. And you know, I feel for these businesses, I mean, you know, without, you know, tourism, I mean, even though there are pros and cons to it, I mean, it's basically what boy rents on. Yeah.


Well, and you also have to think about the layers of who then is affected if that certain kind of business is not able to be a business, the layers that belong to it. So like I said, my husband is a professional musician, Well, okay, there's no gigs, there's no bars open, there's no restaurants open, so, you know, there's no jobs, there's absolutely nothing.


Right, right, right, right, right, right.


And they basically said, you're phase for, so we're in phase one, so it's a long time away in my mind, but then you think about like, he's done a lot of tv shows, well then you have the right people and the and the food people and the makeup, it's just the layers that are so affected by one thing, not being able to happen, like a restaurant or a bar being open. Look at the layers that it it affects. And I hope our congress can figure out what they're going to do.


Yeah. I mean, I feel like it's difficult to find the balance between how do we get our economy going, but yet have a safe enough sort of environment where we can do this without numbers ticking and rising.


Mhm Yeah, Yes, we're yeah, I agree.


But you know, I feel like there's so much polarization between republicans and democrats and you know nothing is being really done to sort of meet in the middle and find a solution so.


I know, and that's, that's where we've got to and maybe it's kind of the storm and we're gonna figure that out. I mean, maybe we this disaster to like bring us together.


Right, right, right, right.


So hopefully that's one of the other goods that can come out of it. But no, I agree that I feel that the opposite parties are deliberately doing things wrong to prove their point and vice versa and that's never gonna work.


Yeah. Yeah.


So we we are we just stay home, we go shopping very minimally and we figure out how we're going to pay the bills.


But that's why you're laughing.


Because I start I mean that's, you know, you can, if you work at it, you can do Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can make, you know, maybe not enough, but I mean enough to like, you know, maybe buy dinner for the day or what not.


Right. Right. Right. So that's how But I know there was another ones.


Yeah.


Have you tried any of the other survey?


Um I've tried testable minds prolific and empty so far. I mean I like prolific because you know their pay is very reasonable and you know unlike mturk where you know like you have all these different tasks and some of them can range from one sent to maybe like $15. I mean prolific gives, you know are reasonable pay to where you know.


What? Yeah. Yeah.


Warm. I have. Like my son actually is who found it. So try this one. So I'm thankful that he he said it was, you know, he did all the research to know that it's safe and all those things.


Mhm. Right. Free.


So because I would probably fall for something silly and lose our uh there's another one that I uh it's a product company, it's called proof of purchase, P.


Yeah. Right. Yeah.


P. O. P. P. O.


Oh right.


C. But proof of purchase and it's working with companies when they first put out their products and wanting to get feedback of you know, is there labelling good is their name good? You know just things like that and that one has was great. But ever since I'm assuming it has to do with shipping because they go through amazon, there's really been no jobs whatsoever.


Right. Uh huh.


So I'm hoping that some reason and maybe, I don't know, maybe they're in jail. I thought that you never know.


Oh yeah. Uh huh. Right.


I worked for a, when I first had my son, I worked for a person and her sister that we're selling bridal grounds and my job was just to basically put things in spreadsheets and get them prepared for putting it up on the web and here they never told me, you know what to do or whatever. But they were they got in trouble because they were using pictures of other websites represent and I'm sister went to jail and I found out about it later that it was like they didn't pull me into that.


Oh without the permission? Oh. Oh mm.


I'm thinking, well I did what you told me to do. I didn't, you know, I didn't well right, I'm out of the heat.


Yeah. You're basically innocent. You didn't know.


They made the decision to do that and probably should have known better.


Right.


So because they were selling the gowns cheap and so course it was popular of course they were making a lot of money doing it that way.


We uh Right right.


But right. Um pop.


Yeah. See no actually I tried surfing actually I took a couple of lessons and um yeah I was actually offered through one of my P.


So do you surf? Well come on.


E. Courses um during my high school year. And so you know I got on the board surfed like maybe like relatively small waves like maybe like under a foot.


Mhm.


Um But you know I enjoyed the experience but I don't know I guess I don't feel like circuit is my sort of thing. You know, I would help on the board if you know there was an opportunity but you know to be able to serve like those big waves that you see, you know pro surfing leads, you know surfing that's just like unbelievable which he scores my mind.


Oh. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well I mean we we only did the body board but it was interesting how you get that sense of when to to jump, when to go.


Yeah. Mhm.


That how your instincts, you know not in there.


Right. Yeah. Yeah it's just all about timing I guess.


Yeah it is it is. So do you do any other sports or not? A Yeah.


Um I do tennis and occasionally jogging and running just like sort of as like a de stressor and um she's just a fair but yeah I think finding that I just jogging and running like daily, I mean I guess exercising for me is sort of like a distress er but yet also like a physical fitness sort of way to keep my body healthy and so you know if I can you know kill two birds with one stone you know I'm doing yeah I'm not really a sort of gamer, I mean I've tried a few games but I mean like Call of Duty and you know those other shooting games it just isn't really sort of my game I guess.


Yeah. Mhm Sure. Yeah. No that's good. Yeah. Do you like gaming? You do any? Okay. Yeah.


I mean I'm more of the type of game while I guess I would prefer games where use more logic based skills, I guess, like maybe like scrabble or Words with friends or world of goo, what does that give me the bottle?


Right look up world of goo mm that's it. Well so the premise behind it is you there's this fun story and you are using you have to put together goo blobs to achieve something. So it's physics, it's it's um I'm trying to think it was so long ago but it was one of my son's favorite games. We had so much fun but then they have they have other now gains world of whatever world of.


Oh.


But um, it's very well done and how they use humor. The humor is very weird. We humor, it's not in your face humor and, but it's it's a good thinking game.


Uh huh. Yeah, wow.


It's a great, great thinking game. He, he liked my son of course is a gamer and he does play all the ones you mentioned. But he also, um, O C O S U is one he's played for number of years and he's like, I don't know in the top people in the world kind of, it's a music game and its rhythm.


Well. Oh. Oh.


I mean in my mind for them.


Uh huh.


But it's, you know, things you, you have to just react to on the screen for the music and I don't know the songs. To me. We're all japanese songs at the beginning when they first started doing it. It was, yeah, so that, that one to me is interesting because it's just a little bit different than, you know, think of gaming.


Oh. Mhm.


I mean to me it's a little more thinking then and then Minecraft was a big one.


Right. Oh, yeah.


Did you ever get into that?


Yeah. Well actually, I first started playing Minecraft or my ipad and you know, it's almost like legal in a sense that, you know, you have the creativity to build what you want, you can build a community to build your house and you know, it just really sparks, I use creativity and just sort of, you know, the different possibilities that your mind can basically try and set out to do.


Mhm. What? You didn't, wow. Yeah. Right.


And I've seen a lot of teachers in the past years um using that as sort of a curriculum for students.


Yeah. Like a tool to use to teach concept.


Right.


Yeah, yeah. There's really, I used to play with my son and his friends and we would build these awesome things and he recreated the santa Monica pier. He did. I mean, it's just, you know, just fun, fun things that we've done. That. I think that game to me is another one that stands out to just be a more of a thinking and creative, like you said everything, which I appreciate more than the shooting games.


Right. Yeah.


I don't like this, I don't like them playing them. I don't want to see him. But well he's a teenager so he's got a I guess it's the thing to do right now, so but well on the phone is there, I don't know if there's limits.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Even from my brother, I mean he plays Call of Duty on his phone, I don't know for me, I just could never really see the attraction to it, like I mean I guess it's stimulating for teenagers but um I'm not too familiar, I mean I think you have the option to play multiplayer games um but I think you know as compared to like the Xbox or like the Playstation, it's relatively limited in the sense of being able to chat with your friends at the same time.


Is there a lot of interaction and strategy with the other players or you by yourself? Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah.


That because he does the steam count.


Oh yeah, also the peace and games.


Yeah. He never got into he never got into like the Xbox or that. It's always been the computer and I just don't know limit. Yeah, pc based versions of it.


Mhm.


I don't know if there's limits to because I know like the Minecraft on your phone, it's limited. It's limited or to what the computer version was.


So that's why wondering if there was, you know, is he playing with groups of people and with the strap?


Because what I noticed the good of it is that there's a lot of strategy with it.


There's a lot of strategy if you're working in a group of what you're gonna do and who's gonna move here and who's going to do that? Well, okay.


That's that's a good skill. That's okay.


But but I don't know. Yeah, the different things how good or bad or what they feature can feature.


Right.


So so what are you doing the rest of your day?


Um Probably working prolific for a little while um and then you take a break, eat some lunch um since right now it's time 11 30 over here, so um and then after that maybe they went in and jogging and so spend some time with family.


I'm going to stay with. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is your everybody staying healthy?


Yeah so far so just trying to keep you know doing our duty to protect ourselves from the virus and you know following whatever safety and health protocols that the experts recommend.


Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're trying, we feel, you know, there's a lot of pushing going on and what's right and wrong, but we're better just, we'll just stay home then you guys go fight it out and we'll come out, run this all over.


Right. Right. Yeah.


Well, it was very nice talking to you and yeah, he's turned out great.


Yeah. Youtube. Thank you for this opportunity.


I've enjoyed both of them that I've done it twice now with these kind and I like, so I had a student in pennsylvania was the last time.


Oh yeah. Oh how did that go?


Mhm. Good, good. And I think he's he was from Jamaica, so you know, he had that part of it, but he um you know, he was very because I was from Ohio and pennsylvania is right next.


Oh just to, right.


He's lived there for most of his life. So we had connections of just the area um you know, because it's different than what cal is like, so, you know, had things I could ask them in places and you know, so it was also very interesting, so, but I I appreciate your time too.


Mhm. Right. Right.


And hopefully we cross paths are good.


Yeah. Thank you. Yeah we'll see him.


Mhm. All right, we'll take care.


Okay.


All right.


Yeah you too. Thank you. Bye bye.


Yeah, by this my machine that lights me up better. Right, thank you. I appreciate you can you tilt the shade so that it's like no other way. There you go. Beautiful. Thank you. I appreciate you kevin. Yeah. Mhm Uh huh. Mhm I don't think. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Mhm. Oh. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah. Hi.


Here we go.


Good. How are you?


Good. This is the first time I've had someone show up.


Oh yeah that's that's unfortunate.


Yeah. I tried to other times and no doubt. Yeah, that's cool.


The second this is the second one that I've done and the first one that I did, the woman and I like head it off.


Yeah. But what is the Yeah.


So well we ended up talking for 2.5 hours like and that's not happening tonight.


Yeah. Oh, that was No. Yeah. No, I don't know if I can talk to Tina powers.


No.


My life depended on it.


Really?


There's no way for like 25 I was I know.


Yeah. Oh also to stop watch. Uh huh.


I haven't opened on this other screen.


Oh.


Um There's a like a timer on this other screen.


Oh got it.


Mhm. But yeah, I switched tab.


I can't see you. Did you hit something? There you go.


Sorry.


No you're fine. I just like I know that they're like recording it so that they can like see our faces and shit.


Mhm. Yeah.


So it's like they would probably be like you have to show your face or you won't get paid.


Yeah. Yeah. Where do you go? Have you done a lot of I've done a lot of the seventies or have you done a lot of the studies on the site?


So are you what um I've done, this is the first one where I'm like talking to another person.


For many reasons? I'm fine. Yeah. Same for me.


Um But like you want to give me 17 bucks and let me do it six times, so that's pretty fucking cool.


Okay. But yeah, it's pretty nice.


I just started doing it randomly because like, you know, extra money and I'm just dicking around on my phone anyway, so might as well get paid plus.


Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. One.


Like, I don't know, I think that research, Sorry, I have two cats and they like to be involved.


Yeah. Yeah.


Give pets.


Thank you. I do.


Yeah.


I have to have a dog. Where is this?


Put it down there.


All right. Mhm.


He is. Oh, is he so like a german shepherd?


Uh huh. Yeah, it's a female una.


Hi, sweetie.


She's 13.


Yeah. Oh wow, chances are Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. He's up. He's an old lady. Oh, your cats names?


My, so the one that just typed a bunch of shit in my address bar is chainsaw, and there's another one who is elsewhere right now.


Yes. Yeah.


Her name is lunch box and I had a they're both three.


Nice. That's awesome. Help.


Um I had a couple of people over yesterday because like, it was my buddies, 40th birthday, so we decided to surprise him.


Good. Mhm. Yeah.


Um I got him to come over by pretending that I had just gotten home from work to find my front door open. I'm like, dude, like someone, I think someone broke in, man, like I'm fucking freaking out right now.


Right. Yeah.


Like, my husband was out of town with his family and he knew that.


Yeah. Yeah.


So he was like, oh shit, sacks out of town, I'm like, man, I hate to ask you, but can you come over?


Okay.


So he shows up and we're all like, but one of my friends brought his dog and his dog is super good and he's really pretty, like, he's got one brown eye and one blue eye.


Right. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.


He's very well behaved, very obedient, very well trained. But the cats, you know, they're like, they don't like change, so there's right and they're still looking over their shoulders today.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like what the hell is this thing?


They're being super spicy and sassy right now because they're mad at me for letting the dog in the house.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.


But they got to get used.


Yeah. My dog, she so my dog lights cats there. Cats don't like her. So she gets hit in the face pretty often.


Yeah, I felt so bad for my buddies dog Edward because he's so friendly and he's such a cuddler.


Right? You mm hmm.


Like he's the kind of dog that will like lean on you, you know, like with the full weight of his body and he's a smuggler and he's so friendly and he's like going up to, the cats are trying to be nice and they're just like, they just hate him.


Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Uh And I tell my brothers my brother's dog is is she a cuddler?


Yeah, part about here.


And with my brother stays here with me. She'll find her way into my bed and she's like the warmest thing. I don't know how my brother sleeps like five minutes and I'm like, you got it seems like a hot water bottle legs.


I love that because like, I'm I'm in Minnesota, I don't know where you're at, but like, still though, like cold enough, and like, we get that polar vortex down from Canada though, and it's so nasty here.


Look, I mean, I'm in Connecticut so not as cold, but it still gets cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah.


And the like, the cats, like when the weather gets colder, they're always more snugly.


With.


Like.


Yeah that is good.


Yeah, you can totally curl up in bed, that's fine.


Yeah. It's nice when it's cooler out you guys.


How long have you lived in Canada?


Yeah.


Sorry?


Uh Probably basically, well I'm 36 so probably almost 30 years living here because younger age group Vermont.


Yeah. And where? Okay. Got it. It snowed for like a hot second like two days ago.


Yeah that that Connecticut, but if you guys gotten snow yet I know it's only october yeah. Yeah.


And it was kind of funny because um I'm a counselor and I was doing a group at the time and it's substance use.


Thank you it wasn't Yeah.


So like people come in and like, they've got a lot of needs and they're kind of, you know, they can be sort of all over the place and our group room has windows in it.


Okay. Yeah.


So it started snowing and they were like, it's not like they're in, you know, they're in this treatment program for 30 days, so like, they don't get to go outside very much and they're like it's snowing like it totally derailed the group for like a solid 10 minutes while they odd over it and worried about whether or not they had a jacket.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.


Like it happens every year guys, I think it re traumatizes me every year that drives me insane.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get used to it like how you know. Mhm. Yeah. It happens here too with the with the first snowfall people like forget how to drive and lose their minds. It's like what? I don't get it. Yes.


Like I'm from michigan and I've been here for 13 years, but in michigan it doesn't get as cold but we get a fuck load of snow, like actual like 300 inches a year of snow.


Mhm. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You get that great lakes affect to the snow coming down and falls.


Yeah. And it's it's like we put stuff back in the day when cars actually had antennas, we would put little balls on top of them because the snow banks were so high, you couldn't tell if the vehicle was coming until you saw the ball.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.


And like down here, they do not know how to handle snow. I swear to God. Like and it's just you would think they don't know how to plow.


That's crazy too because you think like Minnesota, just people think snow and went there and Yeah. Yeah.


They don't they don't know how to drive like.


Do they salt the roads there is just saying every little thing.


Mhm. Yeah. Which isn't great because like that even if you salt it like they don't they don't really move it, they just they push it around.


Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well actually plow the roads.


They do but they just like they don't really I mean I live in Minneapolis so there's not like a shitload of places where you can put it.


Yeah. Yeah.


So it's you know, but they just and there's so many people in such a small area like guaranteed a fair amount of them don't know how to drive in the snow.


Yeah.


Like every year I push someone out of a parking spot or like teach someone how to like rock a car.


Yeah. Yes. Yeah.


You know like you can't just lay on the accelerator dummy like it's just gonna make it worse.


Uh huh.


My husband has a two wheel drive chevy and I have a Subaru.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, silly.


So in the wintertime I'm just like like is it like your car sucks ass?


Like my car is totally basically a snowmobile. It's great.


Yeah. No, I've before we got vehicle to and I don't think I could live in a place that got snow without either or will drive or something.


No, I'll never buy a two wheel drive vehicle again. Not in 1000 years.


Like my first vehicle was good 1992 wheel drive ford Explorer. And remember there's a little time and I mean a tiny hill near me with a stoplight and I got stuck on the hill and I was so pissed. I was like never that's a hard drive vehicles love.


The town that I'm from um it's in the upper peninsula of Michigan, it's right on the lake.


Mhm.


So there's a lot of like really steep hills, like glacial hills and there's this like oh my God I'm sorry.


Yeah. Right. Yeah.


I just noticed that my cat is on top of the fridge which I've never seen her do.


Okay. Yeah.


I don't know how the what the gift?


Sure. Yeah. Try to your attention.


Mm The little get down.


Okay.


Yeah. That did not work.


It's it's your ship.


Oh well she's fine. Um The U upper left is what we call it. So like you're going down a hill and you can't stop so you just gotta like what like I hope that you stay on the road.


Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Well let's stop.


That's thankfully not too many people die every year but because we know how to navigate it you know like you can't lay on the accelerator, you can't stomp on the brakes, you just have to chill out.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. I have a friend that she grew up in Connecticut but she lives in Tennessee now so she'll send me a picture and maybe like an inch of snow like the state shuts down and like their minds it's hilarious.


Yeah I love that. I think it's hilarious.


Yeah.


I visited my parents in florida a couple years ago and I've never been to florida like I wouldn't have gone there had they not had me come.


The. Yeah. Yeah.


But one of the things that I noticed that I was so like initially I was confused by it but then I realized like we're in this parking lot for this like shopping center and there were curbs everywhere like the little you know the cement things at the end of the parking spot.


Yeah. Yeah. Ah Okay. Yeah.


They were everywhere. And I was like, how do they plow in the way?


Mhm. Yeah.


Like they don't need to uh Right, right.


Yeah. Yeah. It's not so then also to like when it gets like maybe 60 out and they think it's freezing, it's like you guys have no idea what cold. Yeah. Mhm.


I think it was like, was it the polar vortex in 2012?


God that I did not own a car at that time, I took the city bus everywhere.


Yeah. Yeah. That's cold.


It was, I mean I was outside and like, you know, 50 below wind chill, like it was terrible, terrible.


Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.


I will never, I love my car. I love being able to like be warm when I'm moving from place to place.


Yeah. Yeah.


It's such a luxury game changer.


Yeah. I've had I've had my truck since 2010 and every year I told myself I was going to get a remote starter for winter because I was just tired of going outside in the morning to turn it on and running back in and I finally got it this year after nine years. But it's so nice. Uh I'm sorry I didn't do it sooner.


Game changer, I've got heated seats.


Yes.


Yes, I, the seat heaters.


Yeah.


Oh my God, like I have back problems so I even use them in the summer if I'm like feeling, you know, kind of 80 or whatever.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah we are nice.


And man, it's my, it's absolutely great.


Like this car that I bought it two years ago, it's actually the first car that I've ever owned um I got a D Dub when I was 20 and it was, it was, it was no bueno you know there was some damage down into a police vehicle and you know it was you know small town so it was kind of like everybody knew about it and it was, it was really but so like my solution you know and I blew really high but you know, I knew that like the and the judge threw the book at me, cost me a ton of money like as it should because driving drunk is super selfish um I was like well I'm not going to stop drinking so we stopped driving but well you know priorities so but then I sobered up.


Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Mhm Yeah. Uh huh It right. Great director. It's two solutions. Yeah. Yeah, firstly at that age to firstly at that at that age as well.


What's up?


Okay.


Yeah, it's all and I mean your frontal lobe isn't even developed when you're 20 like, and my car was wrecked so what am I going to do?


You're gonna think different stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.


And I was so proud of myself when I got my driver's license back when I was like, how old was I?


The rift.


I think it was 32.


Mm Yeah.


Like, I guess what kind of legal?


I had to give the state so much money.


Oh my God, no.


Yeah. Not you.


And it shouldn't be, you know, like the thing that sucked too is because it was a small town, like the judge knew me, he knew my family, he had been my parents lawyer because he, before he was a judge and he was actually present at my adoption as my parents lawyer.


Yeah. It right. Well yeah.


So he was like, he knew them very well and he was like, I can't imagine your parents are very pleased with you, are they?


Yeah. Is yeah. Look yeah.


And I'm like, no. And he's like, how old do you have to be to legally consume alcohol in the state of michigan?


What?


21? Your honor? How old are you?


20 year honor? Like he just, he was humiliated me, but I deserved it.


Right. Yeah lessons learned.


And yeah, I mean I paid for it, you know, and no one died so I should probably try and find him someday and like tell him like, hey, I'm not a dirtbag anymore.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


I'm a substance abuse counselor.


Yeah.


Now isn't that funny?


Yeah. If you want to make you feel really good, just tell him like his speech changed your life and all that stuff. Yeah.


You know, it does make a great story and I do tell people about it like, kind of as a cautionary thing, you know more about caution about not living in small towns than not being irresponsible but get a little, I'm watching her because I keep, there's like bread and stuff up there and I just know that she's going to be a fucking asshole about something, and like, that's what I love cats, like, because they're assholes, you know, like dogs are chilled, like they're pretty.


Yeah. Yeah. Where everyone knows everyone and it Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, completely different personalities and like a very independent.


Yes, and I I love that though, like, because they're just, you have to earn their love and their complete shit heads if you don't, but I couldn't do that, like, who knows to her, because I'm too, I'm too soft, like, I would just want to keep them all, and you know, and my cat lunchbox, she was a foster and uh she, her mom was taken out of an animal hoarder house while she was pregnant, and then she gave birth to nine kittens and died.


Right? Yeah, mm definitely go. Yes. And my mom has a he manages a like a cat rescue shelter or something. So she always has like a foster kid and stuff around and if I visit her I'll go up and see you know which catch she has and depends on the person of a cat especially foster their cases and they haven't been exposed. People might do some will let you buy them and someone like no get away stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah.


So like, lunch box was bottle fed from birth.


Yes. Yeah. Yeah.


She thinks she's a people, she's super vocal, she's super needy, like, constantly, like, if you're in the kitchen, she needs to be involved and um like that, like, even just hearing the story of like what her origins were, I was like, no, if you have that one, like where do I sign like this?


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Right. Yeah. Yes that's awesome.


We're done. Yeah.


So how do they get their names?


Um I've always loved having animals with bizarre names just in case like they ever got lost in the neighborhood. I would have to be like super extra, you know, like if you walk around the neighborhood like you know Laszlo or spot or lula, like if you walk around the neighborhood like chainsaw, like everyone thinks you're fucking crazy.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Oh I lost my lunch bugs.


Yeah, exactly.


Yeah. Yeah.


And it's just like, it's a little bit based on their personalities, like lunchbox. They well they were both pretty food insecure when I got them, but especially lunch box and she's just she's very, she's stolid like she's kind of she's sort of hefty, like she's not overweight that my husband called her fat, but the vet says that she is technically a normal weight, so he's wrong.


Oh. Uh huh. Yeah. What? Yeah. Uh huh. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah, like I love to throw that in his face whenever he fat shamed or um but she's she's just very lunch boxing and you know, chainsaw Scheepers a lot, a lot, so she kind of sounds like she's got a little buzz side going.


Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that's cool.


Yeah, the vets loves them, and because I go to um like a chain vet and they've got like the white board behind the counter with all the pets names on it that they're seeing that day, so you've got like, you know, fetcher and whatnot?


Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


They've got like chains. Uh I brought him in one day and the tech that was checking me and goes, are you laptops, mom?


Yeah. Yeah. Oh okay that's good.


And I was like, no, but that is a great cat name, like that's genius.


Yes.


I love that.


Uh huh.


So, you live with your brother, Do you have any sisters?


No just one brother. He's young girls 33 now for help.


Mhm. Got it.


Yeah he lived in, he lived in Brooklyn new york for probably 18 years.


All right, right, we do that here too, yep.


And uh he's also sounds like when he lived there you know he had his license from being a Connecticut but he didn't drive in new york because there's no reason to have you, there's no reason to drive. So he didn't get a vehicle until he came back to Connecticut. So for the longest time, you know? Yes then drive. And also I guess there when it snows, if your car is parked on one side of the street you have to move it to the other side. And I can imagine that's just the pain in the ass. Although the uh you're in the big city to uh is that not annoying?


Yeah, I mean I well I kind of see both sides of it because I actually used to work for a towing company for that contracted with the city and I was there for five years and I worked quite a few snow emergencies, which is what we call them and like people get towed and they're pissed.


I would think, I mean you get used to it obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But it's like they got a plow like if they don't plow your side of the street you're gonna fucking bitch about it.


Uh huh. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.


But then you won't you also don't want to move your car.


Yeah. Yeah.


So it is kind of annoying. But like we're lucky because we have an off street parking spot so we just you know we're good.


Yeah, we least our second car to a couple of friends of ours and they live in a much more densely populated neighborhood than we do.


Yeah. Mhm mm.


And I was like good luck with your personal emergency.


Mhm.


You're not gonna we're not gonna pay the impound fee.


Yeah.


Uh huh.


Oh awesome.


Are you working right now? Are you covid covid rich?


No so I work in manufacturing so even working the entire time and so basically nothing has changed other than wearing masks and stuff at work and social business and all that but how much has changed and we otherwise and then my brother worked he can work remotely so not much is change for him.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


How are you?


It's kind of wild like the range of impacts that I've seen.


Like when Covid hit, I was gigging like I was working for lift and for door dash and I stopped doing lift right away because I was like hell no, like I'm not having people in my car.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.


Um I kept doing door dash and I'm really glad that I did because when they issued the lockdown order um I just posted up by a liquor store and which is kind of gross but whatever I made 300 bucks in two hours, it was great.


The words yeah.


And like I mean I was part of the reason I was gigging is because I'm finishing my um uh post back program.


So full time job was kind of out of the question with full time school.


Yeah. Yeah.


But now I'm just doing the counseling thing and it's pretty I mean it's a little bit weird because like you can do counseling stuff like virtually, but it's not the same and it's I don't know, it just doesn't I'd rather do it in person like despite the risk, like it just doesn't that's what the patients want, like they want, you know, in person services, it feels more real to them.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah mm. Yeah. Good. Yeah it's more probably more feels more structured to, right, I'm sure that helps you come as well.


Mhm. Well and in an inpatient setting like they're there anyway. You know, we test them and then they're, you know, they're isolated until they come back negative.


Yes he will. Okay.


So they're more of at risk from me coming in from outside.


Yeah. Right.


So.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


But yeah, I mean Yeah and we all wear masks and you know we make sure that we stay six ft apart and stuff.


And you can you can still do that stuff and just maintain distance and stuff. Yeah.


But all of my friends who are musicians or tattoo artist so like they just got fucked like and like other independent contractors like I wasn't technically an independent contractor when it started but I didn't qualify for unemployment.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


I was pissed.


Of a exactly yeah.


It's like what the fuck um on my free money that I'm gonna have to pay an ass little taxes on in 2021.


Yeah.


But I mean it all worked out okay and even like my buddies that like the tattoo artist that got you know get paid in cash and stuff like they took a little while but it got updated to where they were able to qualify to at least for they didn't get the federal but they got the state stuff.


Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah like academic belief thing or whatever a lot of states have you.


No mm.


That's it.


Minnesota's pretty like Minnesota's pretty like heavy on the social programs and stuff.


Yeah. Which you know, I like it because I work in it.


Mhm. Yeah. Canada is too and we've got as far as States have done pretty well with Covid, where's my friend in Tennessee is like losing, she's a pharmacy attack so she's around trustworthy people all day and I get like at least a couple times a week and just the text from her losing her mind, there's no one there like does anything and it's not really a mandate. So some people are masked, some don't and all that stuff. So.


I mean the way I feel about it is like because there's a bunch of debate about whether or not the masks are effective or whatever.


But it's like even if it's not like what's the, what does it hurt like?


Yeah, that's exactly what's the harm.


I mean I'd rather not wear one all day but if there's even a slight chance that it will help keep the people around me safe, I'm going to do it like who cares?


Yeah. It was annoying at first, but like most things you get used to it, it's not my mask found.


Mhm.


I don't even think about it.


Right.


No.


It's and I don't understand like like really like because you see the people they're like, you know, mask protesting and stuff like that.


Mhm. Uh huh.


And it's like really this is the hill that you want to die on like this.


Uh huh. Brain patriots.


This this is thanks.


Um Yeah.


Yeah. Like in in my home state michigan, there was a big protest and and then like some of those same people made like they got together this like ragtag militia and made a plan to try and kidnap the governor.


Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.


Did you hear about that?


Brother. Yeah.


Is that enough?


Yeah.


Like, what the hell? Mhm. What is that gonna solve?


Like, I just, it's so sad right?


I don't think they have a long term plan for that. It was probably some drinking going on and they're like, yeah, let's do this every country monday.


Like yeah, the county that I'm from their doing their um like county clerk elections and stuff right now and one of the people running one of the, one of the like the two front runners, like the incumbent and then the main like challenge or whatever, the incumbent just like a normal like your run of the mill, like county level like bureaucrat or whatever.


Okay. Show up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


And the upset is this like 19 year old kid who is like vehemently anti mask and like vocally very supportive of trump and the current administration and he and one of his buddies who apparently works for the governor downstage or something, he's connected with state government in some way, got shit faced one night and decided to call this woman up at one in the morning and make terroristic threats to her and shit, and I'm just like you were running for public office, like I don't understand like yeah, why did you not think it was going to come back and bite you in the ass?


Yeah. Oh right. The, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Only the, yeah.


Like it just, it blows my mind.


I don't, yeah. Hold on. Yeah, I'll speak live in this year's over. No.


I was like upset about 2020 the other day, I was crying about it and like, I mean I cry like probably every third or fourth day, so my husband like he's not startled by my crying, like it's pretty much a normal, a normal thing and I was like bawling about 2020 like when is 2020 gonna be over?


Mm. Yeah, there's yeah. Yeah.


And he's kind of literal, so he was like december 31st, it's like you know like 2020 the year 2020 the mindset like 2020 the trial, it's really like it's like a global trauma like it started with the fucking Australia like burning to the ground and it just got worse.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm Yeah. Everybody. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm such a crap year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Like my niece was born in january and I still haven't met her like my my sister and her husband lived a little bit further away and it's just it's hard to travel and um but I can't wait until she's old enough to tell her about the year of her birth, like you were born and then everything else was shit, there's gonna, you know, they're like because we've got millennials right?


Yeah. Mhm Yeah. Mhm Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You started a cult somewhere. Mhm. Your birth caused all of us. Yeah. Mm.


And then we've got like the zoo MERS or whatever they're called, the ones after us.


Yeah. Yeah.


Like what's the covid generation gonna be?


Might be that. It might be the shit.


Yeah, the covid generation like, which is sad.


Like they shouldn't be labeled something like that.


Yeah.


The covid kids, man.


Yeah. Currently. Yeah. It flows, nope.


Does your brother have kids? Yeah, I don't want any.


No kids. No, no kids for me or him. Who's ahead. How about yourself?


And I love the idea of having like, you know, nieces and nephews and stuff because like I'll spoil the shit out of you will have a great time.


Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.


I'll fill you full of sugar and then I'll send you home.


I have a lot of little cousins and it's usually the same mindset. We're all really close to my cousin so they call us like uncle and whatever.


Mhm. Mhm.


Yes the same thing play with them and then the yellow hyped up right Like go see your mom and dad you work so.


Right, yep. Because I like kids like, and I think that they should be like protected and nurtured and like in safe environments, but I just don't want any myself and there's there's so many reasons like the world is fucked.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


You know like the planet is going to probably like die before I do.


You know? Like what kind of world would I be bringing a child into?


So plus like I really don't want to be pregnant.


You know go Yeah.


Like I don't like you see women when they're pregnant and they're like, you know, oh, I'm glowing or whatever. High to Yeah, come see the dog.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Who goes there? Yeah.


She said she's not interested. She doesn't like peppers.


Yeah.


Hi una.


Look look.


It's like I hear you talking.


Mhm.


I want attention.


She's I miss having dogs.


Report. Yeah it's fun. Okay.


They're so good. Dogs are so pure. Cats are like malicious and evil and dogs are super pure.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Hey, Guess what?


What I did I'll sleep well tonight.


You you were you did talk for over 25 minutes. Oh, same.


I'm tired now. Okay.


Well, it was nice talking to you.


It was it was well thank you.


Indeed.


It's nice to meet you.


You're welcome Success in the with the future ones.


Have a good night. Yes you too thank you.


Take care.


But.


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Oh God. Okay. What, wow.


Mhm. Hello?


Hello. All this stupid web camp. Oh my God, I'm so sorry.


Okay.


I just got home from work. I thought I wasn't even gonna make it to the deadline but I guess yeah, a freaking I wanted, I told him I'd be available from 9 to 11 but I knew I was cutting it close for nine o'clock and running late, but here I am.


I'm glad I went a little bit longer. What?


Uh huh.


Glad you made it?


Yes. Thank you. Thank you. So yeah. Oh yeah it was yeah, I know like um this is the first one I did, I signed up for like one or two of them before here but like I felt kind of nervous so I didn't even do them but I was like, you know, I just could use a little extra money right now so I'm just gonna bite the bullet into it, you know?


Uh Not exactly sure what to talk about on these things like ever. It's definitely worth it. I've done I've done this is my third one.


Oh really?


Yeah. And uh the first two people I talked to was pretty easy. It's not been I've been too hard. It's I mean it's always awkward because you never know what to talk about. Like you don't want to give away too much information and barrel right.


Right. Right, right. Yeah. Because you think about like where is this going to end up? You know, it's going to be on some hard drive for like 60 years from now, but Oh well, who cares?


Oh, and they were Yeah, because they're recording us and me too.