Yeah. I mean there's a part of me that thinks that I will when I quit my traveling that I will move to another country, like the central America where I can retire cheaply and not have to deal with any of the bullshit.


Mhm. Uh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


You know, America is a melting pot and that's a wonderful thing.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


But we don't accept, we don't like it.


Exactly.


We it's in our, you know, bring us your poor your tired, your huddled masses on the statue of liberty and all that stuff.


Yeah. Mhm. Right. Please.


But we don't actually believe it, you know?


Uh huh. Uh huh.


And like I mean I do, I totally do.


Uh huh.


Um but it's it's ridiculous.


Mhm.


Part of me thinks that I'll retire to a country like Panama, you know like live deeply beautiful weather and just forget all the bullshit.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


You know, yep.


Really? Exactly. Like I eventually that's that's our plan to to move out outside of the U. S. Um Right now it's the only thing that's holding us back is his job. But once we hit that number that we need to retire outside of the US like bye bye. America bit locker.


I know I'm trying to hit my fight.


It's called fire, you know financial retire early.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah first.


I mean I don't think there's a chance in hell that I'll hit my number, but I'm trying like crazy and if I can go somewhere else at least for a while, that will help a lot, you know.


Yeah. But. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean even just lean fire. Have you also heard of that?


Yes.


Yeah that's right now that's what we're targeting. So as soon as we pay off the student loans of God the student loans um Yeah.


Yeah.


Um as soon as we do that we can always go back home to the Philippines and not pay, you know a lot of money to live to actually enjoy life.


Oh yeah.


Um But you know right now We're stuck here for I would say 3-5 years and then afterwards it's wherever that's them.


That sounds so anything.


Yeah that's that's the plan. And I think what you're also doing is actually really great. I I haven't really talked to someone in I mean in person or in video call who uh knows about the fire movement.


Oh really?


Yeah. Yeah. You're like the first person who I actually talked to. I am in I'm a member of the groups, you know facebook groups. Have you also heard of joseph? I Yeah, that too.


Yes. I am a member of that too.


So I'm a member but I don't I'm not really active. So you're you're the first person who actually heard?


God we should friend each other on facebook and we can talk to the FBI.


About Yeah. Yeah, I would I would love to.


Uh I'm going to write this down here.


It's okay. Uh huh. Oh great.


I got paper. What is your name?


Uh My name is Katherine, K. A. T. H. R. Y. N.


R Y N A N N E mhm.


Yeah. Uh huh. And then an with a double N. And E. Mhm. And then uh Villi R.


Yeah.


V. As in Victory. And then I L. L. A. R. So right now my facebook is deactivated but I will activate it soon.


Mhm. Okay.


Yeah. Yeah, it's just uh I'm protesting about uh what's happening with facebook right now.


Mm. Oh yeah, I know.


And I'm like, you know, fuck you, Mark Zuckerberg, I temporarily deactivated it. But I can give you my email. Listen kate won't you can shoot me an email if you need someone to talk to just, you know, rent about it.


Okay. Okay. Call. Yeah, awesome.


Or if you ever go here in the Northeast, we're also planning on visiting Oregon. If you happen to go to Oregon and you know, your tiny house and our bus, we could totally meet each other. Anyway. My email is D 80 D. As in dog. Okay. A as in apple Tsn table and then Catherine my first name at gmail.


Okay. Okay.


Yeah. I don't know. Do you want my name in case you activate your facebook account?


Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Let me get my Uh huh. All right. Ready.


Um My first name is julie J U L I E.


Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Mhm.


My last name is a tough one. Its blade. Oh it's B as in boy Alice in uh I don't know.


Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah.


Light.


Oh E.


Uh huh. Mhm.


He is in dog.


Yeah.


Oh W so B B L O E D O W is pronounced.


Blue. Uh huh. Uh huh. Blue. Blue. Blue. Yeah, wow. Well, you don't Okay.


Yeah, it's pronounced blade. Oh, but it smells like blow dough. Yeah.


Uh or blow edo or whatever.


Uh huh. That's the first time I heard last thing like it's interesting.


So yeah, we should definitely an act, right?


Okay. Oh I've gained a friend today I guess. Thanks to this pandemic. Yeah. All right. Um So do we just, thank you Hang up?


Yeah. I don't know how we end this chair.


Oh no. Yeah. Yeah there's yeah mom yeah we did a photo.


It's new but in the end it what the hell? Well maybe you just minimise that screen and then take the survey.


Yeah I guess so.


I don't know.


I mean once we're done I guess we just move on.


Okay.


Just click the next page. Is that what it test?


Yeah. It says, oh okay.


Okay please return to this browser tab. Yeah just uh click the next um the link. I'm going to click it now. Oh if uh it disconnects. Um I hope to talk to you again.


Ah All right. Sounds good.


Okay you have a great day. It's nice meeting you julie.


Nice to meet you too. Yeah.


Yeah. Okay bye bye.


Bye.


Right. Oh okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. What? Okay. Okay.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. What? Okay. Mhm. We've been having Mhm. You know? Yeah.


Hello?


Um Mhm.


Mhm. How are you today?


God, How are you?


I'm pretty good. Yeah.


But I am just going to finish one sentence if you don't mind typing really quickly.


Okay. Mhm. Mhm.


All right. How's your day going?


It's going pretty well. I went to sleep pretty wait this so like I'm kind of tired.


Are you where are you like, what time zone are you in?


Yeah, I'm in pacific time zone, so it's nine a.m. Over here.


Okay.


What about you?


So I am I'm in South Dakota, so I'm in central time. Um Yeah, so this is just kind of middle of the work day for me. I'm taking an early early lunch to do this and earn a little extra money.


No.


So um I'm a social media manager for a telecom.


What do you what do you work as?


Kind of like a Comcast or uh I don't know who you would have, where you're at. Probably Comcast.


Mhm.


So it's similar to that, but its regional to the midwest and then we also have a sports network.


Oh, I see. That's cool.


Yeah. How about you?


I'm currently a college student. So Yeah, I'm just yeah, everything's online though, so like I don't know, it's just like whatever like I'm just trying to get through it I guess.


Boom.


Um I don't know.


Yeah, I think that's all you can do right now like it's just so hard just like get through this and I don't know I feel like a lot of us are just kind of waiting for normal life to start again.


Uh Yeah. Yeah.


So it really has.


Mhm. Yeah. I don't know like it's been I don't even know when Cortina started. It's been like so long. It's kind of become like the new norm I guess. Like it's really weird. I'm sorry.


So what are you studying?


What's your major, wow, good for you?


I'm studying molecular Biology right now. Mhm. Yeah.


Awesome. That is way out of my wheelhouse.


Uh What did you uh What sorry? Uh Sorry? Uh Yeah.


No, no worries. And I'm actually going to turn on my do not disturb too um english education.


Yeah. Uh huh. What did you major in in college?


So I did teach high school english for a few years out of college and I mean I think this is true of most of us now and going to the future, I just had kind of a round about way where I did different jobs and got into different areas and finally ended up in social media but like I went to college and like 98-2002, so social media wasn't didn't even exist back then, so people are like, Oh did you study in college?


All right. Mhm.


And like no, the internet was fairly like I that studies social media, so just kind of learned as I went and yeah, here I am.


Uh huh. How did you get like all your teaching credentials and stuff like that when you took?


Mhm, yep, yep, I talked for three years out of college, so do you think you'll go on and get like your master's and doctorate or what do you want to do with your degree?


Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure like I really like the like the sciences and stuff like that, but like I'm not sure if I want to pursue like my PhD or like a masters in Biology because like, I don't know, it's a lot of years.


Yeah, absolutely.


But yeah, I'm not sure. I want to do a three degree, but like maybe I want to go into like research and like, I don't know, I'm really actually interested in like cancer and stuff like that. So I want to do like research on like cancer and how do I, you know, develop cares and stuff like that. Uh huh.


Yeah, that's really cool. I've been, who's in his in pharmaceuticals? He was Organic chemistry.


Mm.


Um So yeah, just a really cool area to go into where you can make a huge difference for sure.


Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yes.


Yeah.


Have you sorry if um I got offered it um like a month ago, but I didn't do it the first time because like, I don't know, I just didn't feel like doing it.


Oh sorry, I was just gonna ask if you have done this study before, like this interview thing.


So this time I just did it for whatever reason.


Yeah, I have.


Have you Okay.


I um last time I like maxed out the number of chats that I could do. I think it was like six. So that was really interesting.


Like chat with all different kinds of people and just have like really different experiences.


Uh huh. Okay. Yeah.


I mean everyone was super pleasant but sometimes it was a little painful because people were just harder to talk to.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Do you want Sure?


So that's a really good point.


Yeah. It's just it's just different talking online, like the dynamics are different. So yeah, it's the same thing in the classroom, like, you know, it's not the same as the classroom in person. Like everyone is just, I don't know, ever, mostly people just have the camera and mic muted and like whenever you try to go into like group work or why talk to the teacher like it's just not the same. You don't have any like human, like real human like queues to pick up on some, you know? Mhm. Uh huh Yeah.


I feel like for a long time people were saying well in the future we're going to do like everything online, like school online and work online.


Yeah. Oh what?


And I think we're learning really quickly that it's valuable.


Okay, this is just Mhm.


It has a place but definitely does not replace interaction. And do you feel like it's exhausting to be in classes online all day?


Uh huh.


I'm in meetings like this all day and I'm exhausted.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Just sitting in one place all day. Like you like obviously it's not good like you you weren't supposed to sit in one point. You weren't made to sit in just one place and just like stare at a screen all day. So you know.


Yeah.


Mm hmm.


Yeah. My step count is crazy low since I started working at home and now I don't know, you can't see behind me, but it's snowing here.


Mhm. Oh, that's cool.


Mhm. Um It is literally cool at the end of my outdoor adventures for a while, so yeah.


Uh Yeah. Yeah. I live in California so I don't get that much snow if at all.


Really capture, are you, are you in southern or northern California?


Yeah. But I mean the temperature is decreasing, but that's really the cost that I'm going to get to any like cold weather. Although it's been it's been raining recently. So I mean, I guess it's that I'm in southern California.


Okay.


I have family in ventura, that's actually where I'll be for christmas if if everything works out with covid and stuff, but um yeah, I love visiting there in the winter because the weather is just so nice.


Okay. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of crazy how like out of hand covid got so quickly like in like the winter, like when you like the turn of 2019 to 2020 like there were like barely any coronavirus coronavirus cases in the U.


Mhm.


S. Like I saw like on the pho like health website and like it's only like four cases in like Washington and like uh, and some other states like in the pacific northwest.


But then like, I don't know man, like it just started spreading like wildfire. Like I guess it was just downplayed to how bad it was.


And like there's some also like this bad planning. I'm like people's parts I guess.


Oh, totally, and like, I mean, honestly, like my state, I'm in South Dakota and Like we're doing nothing.


Okay. Have fun.


There's been no lockdown, no mask mandates and they're doing it on purpose because like, freedoms like that whole argument, but the numbers are so bad here right now, like we have like a 40% test positive rate. I think they'll refuse to do anything. And it's just like, not only are we hurting ourselves but we're hurting other people because we're spreading it everywhere because people aren't they're not taking it seriously or they're like so afraid of losing their freedoms which is I don't know, kind of list in my opinion.


Come on. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know when it comes to this. Like, I think you just have to bear with it and like follow the regulations and we'll all get this together and like everybody will be out of this sooner if everybody follows the rules. And like I'm almost certain that it would have been like much better if not completely over if we just like did it from the start. No.


Yeah, totally agree.


Mm hmm.


Yeah.


Have you had, have you heard any news about the vaccine?


So Yeah.


Because I recently saw an article that says it has like a 90% success rate. But like I don't know what to believe anymore because like you and be either like super-like biased or like, like just out of the blue like it doesn't even make sense. So I don't even know what to like fall for credible news anymore.


Yeah. Well I follow this epidemiologist on instagram which sounds totally sketchy but I swear it's not.


And she said like a notable thing is that they're announcing this to be a press release. So we haven't actually seen like the science that there claiming so we just need more information. And then I was talking to a coworker today and he said that he had read that the back this vaccine needs to be stored at like Something crazy like -120°..


So it's like how are they going to distribute that widely if it needs that kind of really specialist protocol for storing it?


I don't know.


I also read that there's going to be like a phase of how they like administer the vaccine. So like they were going to target like public health workers first and then the elder way and then like the other general population. So yeah, it's gonna be a huge logistical task because I don't know why dude, like you have to do a lot of planning to like uh like administer it, like do you want it to be like, hey there's a bunch of questions with it to like how are you gonna like administer it?


Yeah, absolutely.


Like how like is it gonna be like uh like the flu vaccine where you just go in and like get it or like how is it going to work? Like there's a bunch of like variables I guess.


And I think to like each state is coordinating their own response, Right? And like I said, my state is doing very poorly because we basically don't have a response though. How are they going to like, how do they coordinate with the States and like a state like California might be much more organized and helpful in a state. Like mine is probably just going to be like a mess.


You know what I think we have. So I don't know. I Yeah.


Mhm. Mhm.


Wait and see it I guess.


What what are you, how well to your best guess? How much longer do you think this is gonna go on for? Yeah, all of you.


I mean, I think through through the winter and into spring, early summer for sure.


Yeah, but I was just thinking let's go what?


So working with the, with the sports network were like forecasting like one live sports are going to come back and stuff like that. And it's like we're looking into february, but we're we don't really think that they're saying they're going to have sports, but we're like, it's probably going to end up being canceled because we think numbers are just going to keep going up, you know what I mean?


Come on. Yeah, I couldn't. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know some regional, I know some high schools near me that have like their sports team opening up because I know like my old high school football team is having practices right now and the same thing with the marching band.


Yeah.


So, um, yeah, I think there, I think, well, I know their plan was to just delay practices to winter, but like I don't know how that's gonna work out because I don't know, I haven't been keeping up with my high school news, but I don't know if they're getting tested or anything or if there is social distancing, but like, I don't know. I don't know if it's a good idea really, But yeah, just another one.


Uh huh. So in our area we have had high school football, but not college football, so that's all we've had to again, we're a sports network, like Fox sports. So the only thing we've had to broadcast is high school football, which is fine. It works. Um But yeah, like the kids are only getting tested if they get sick and of course playing football, they don't have like they're not wearing masks, they're just wearing their helmets. Um and the coaches are wearing masks sometimes, so I don't I don't know, it's really interesting and all these sports are like so close contact, like can you imagine basketball and the way people like breathe on each other?


Yeah, man.


And I don't know, we'll see at least football's outside, but basketball is going to be another another story.


Yeah. Mm hmm. I'm wanting to stay optimistic so hopefully it'll all blow over relatively soon. But by my college estimate like I'm not going back to, I'm not deworming until like at the earliest like summer 2021. So, you know, uh, yeah, like, I don't know, I just, there's so many like the campus was so beautiful and like I don't know like I got to just like go out and like do stuff whatever and now I'm just like cooped up in my room, I can't really do anything.


I think that's probably a safe guess. Do you miss being on campus? That sounds really hard.


Yeah but like I don't know like I think that the first I think when we first went into court and I'm like yeah maybe this will blow over soon, like maybe I'll go back to college like after one quarter and like as the mud started dragging and like yeah it's not happening for a pretty long time, I'm not going back. Uh huh.


I mean the good news is as soon as they can, they probably will send you guys back because colleges, like I was reading that colleges need to have students on campus to like make their money basically.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Like they're losing money with distance learning. So, and I mean I loved being on campus in college.


Uh huh.


I thought it was an amazing experience.


Well you know do you uh for prolific, do you do you just do this alone or do you have any other white side uh Working gigs?


So I can totally see why you want to get back to that.


I just do this.


Yeah. Yeah I yeah I'm pretty like uh yeah I go and write pretty awfully.


Um right now I are you on Reddit at all? Okay. I was talking to someone in one of my other sessions and he said there's a separate it called Beer Money and that that has really good suggestions for other things to do. But I mean for me like this is about all I can fit into my schedule. How about you?


Um I knew like other like just like general survey websites but like they're not as good as prolific. Like you know how profits basically like the gold standard of these kind of websites? Yeah.


Yeah.


Yeah. So like maybe I maybe used to do like other survey websites when I have more free time but like like um maybe if you've heard of like swag books or like you me or something like that, But like I don't really do that anymore because it takes, it's really like time consuming and like you get disqualified a lot. So like. Yeah it's sometimes it's worth it. Like sometimes like in a short story I could get like $5 real quick But then like if you spend like hours on it, like you're probably gonna get like maybe an additional 50 cents if you're lucky. So yeah it's chump change.


Uh Yeah.


And that's just not worth my time for me. I feel like like you said prolific is gold standard and like I know that's like academic stuff for the most part.


Mhm. Yeah.


So I trust that their ethical and they're going to use my information like the way they should and not sell it.


I think.


So I don't know, I like prolific.


Yeah. Yeah. I respect their platform and like how they enforce like minimum basically wage for their surveys. It's it's really cool and it helps out the participants. What?


You know, How did you find out about it?


Mhm. Um Well I was on I was on the Reddit for swag books which which links the Reddit for beer money in their side post. So they went to beer money and then like yes and then I went to the sites that their Reddit suggests that I saw prolific and I signed up because it was highly recommended and I don't regret it at all.


Okay. Yeah, I found it um because I had a friend who is a professor at the beginning of the pandemic, she was like, hey, like I know a lot of universities are going to do research around covid and so if you want to earn a little extra money, like this platform is a really good way and you'll be helping with research too.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm.


So I don't know.


Monday.


Like you said, I've been really happy with it. So, um, so like mid March, right?


When did you start out with? Like?


When all this stuff started going down and I was like, you know, I've been working this whole time and things have been fine, but I'm like, that would be nice to build up a little bit of a cushion, you know, just thinking for sure, especially when things are so uncertain with everything that's going on.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. It's always nice to have some extra money here and there. What to do? Have your finance has been well during the pandemic?


Yeah, I mean, like I said, my work has stayed the same. Like I feel super lucky my, my company has committed to like no layoffs and known for lows during the pandemic.


What? Yeah.


Um, so yeah, it's just more like just trying to be careful and build up that nest steak.


Yeah.


How about you? Are you working outside of doing this stuff?


Yeah. Um I was trying to find jobs that fit around my schedule but like I think the only time shift that really work with my schedules are like railway weight shifts like that maybe midnight to like three or something. And like I don't know if I'm willing to like commit to that because I'm gonna be like super exhausted and then I have other responsibilities to tend to. Yeah.


Yeah, maybe.


It's hard when you're in school.


I mean my time managers, my time management is admittedly pretty bad. So I want to prove on that.


Yeah. Uh huh.


I'm sure I could balance it if I tried hard enough. But at the current moment like I don't know, I'm pretty unmotivated to get any work done.


I was just gonna say you don't sound super motivated to, but I mean that's good.


All right. Yeah.


Like I don't mean that in a negative way because that means you don't need it that badly.


Mhm.


So I mean that's good.


Right. Mhm. Yeah, I mean but I I have to find a way to pay college eventually. So I might want maybe when campus opens up I'll find like a work study job, like the right barry or something.


Yeah, sure I did.


Uh huh. Mm. Um Did you follow the election pretty closely?


How about you?


Yeah I had this like little watching party with my friends and we were watching like state by state. It was it was fun I guess.


Yeah, I completely agree.


Yeah. But I was it was a really close election like I don't know it was close to that. I would have liked it to be really dr I don't like some of the claims they have have like really small numbers like maybe seven and maybe like a minimum of seven and then like a maximum of like maybe 7000 disputed votes.


And yeah, take it how you want. But I was kind of disappointed that it was that close. It was like, it should not even be this close, but it is what it is. I'm interested to see what happens in the next month or so with like all the legal challenges and all that stuff going on.


But then those states have like Over like 2,030,000 we'd uh ballot count for biden. So like I don't know how it's gonna play over so I don't think it will.


Yeah.


You know like I think biden has a reasonable weight in those states.


Oh no.


And even if they take it to court, like if they added to trump's total, I don't think it's gonna surpass biden's numbers, so I don't know what the case is for.


I agree in historically like recounts have not usually change the outcome of what was called and what, what they found in the first go around. So I think it's just like delay tactics and also to like get their base riled up. So and it's working.


I live in that we're old right now.


Oh yeah, I watched the video about the about the legal proceedings and like they stated that it's probably not going to change the results of the election, but like it sets a bad precedent in the future.


I mean like where I'm at, it's a lot of people who are like that. So yeah.


Like I don't know how to word it because it's been like a while since I watched the video, but like yeah, I don't I don't know if I agree with the cases because like if this happens again in the future and like yeah, I don't know.


Yeah, I totally agree.


Okay.


And again, like, I think it's just like continues to divide people and get like, I don't know, I just see people I know who I otherwise thought were pretty reasonable just accepting these outlandish claims that don't really have like much support for them.


Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Yeah.


And I'm like, why?


Right.


Just just because you're a guy lost I down of, it's frustrating.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


It's frustrating to live in the midwest right now.


Yeah.


My dad that yeah, for sure.


Uh huh. Yeah. I don't know. This year has been a crazy one to say the least. Like it's, there's been so many things that's been going on, it's hard to keep track of really? Yeah.


There was this really funny Tiktok video I saw where it was like, have you seen like those God, an angel tic Tac. And the one I saw was like, Did you get all the events scheduled for the 2020s?


Well, right.


And he was like 2020? And I was like, what 10 years of events into one video?


That was really funny.


Mm. Yeah. Well, I'm not, I don't know, I don't use social media that often because I generally like to just hang out in person really. Like maybe I'll send a text to like my friends if I'm bored or something. But generally I just like to hang out in person and do other stuff, But yeah, how long have you been at your current occupation for?


Good for you. It's just like if I didn't do it professionally, I would love to be on it a lot less. So six years.


Yeah. Mhm.


So yeah, just kind of starting to feel like I know what's going on.


Yeah. Right. Mhm. Uh huh. How did you transition from being a teacher into being like a sports like uh into a sports network?


Um like I said, I mean it was kind of a winding road, but so my degree in my background is english and writing. So I kind of got into more writing type positions and then I first started in this company as a content writer and then they needed someone to do the social media piece. So I transitioned into that, so that's the super short explanation, but basically through writing and marketing.


Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm.


Yeah, so, but I don't have a marketing degree either, so just kind of learn as I go.


Yeah, that's, I mean like you just make you take the opportunities as they go. Really? That's how life really works.


Exactly, yep. So what do you like love to do?


Come on. Mhm. Um I really love playing games. It doesn't really matter like any type of games. It could be sports, it could be like card games and board games. Like really like anything that has a bit of competition in it really because I like winning.


Yeah, that's awesome.


Mhm. Yeah. But most yeah, I can't play sports with any of my friends though. I used to I used to do swim but before every yeah.


Well, cool. Okay, so I would love to get my son and to swim and he's four.


Oh Um my first joined club swim when I was in like second grade and then I stuck with that.


How old were you when you really got into it? Okay.


I took a year break when I was in Middle School I think 8th grade. And then I just I joined my high school swim team for all four years.


Oh, cool.


Yeah.


Okay. So he's not like Too old to start at like 4, 5, 6.


No.


You know how birds like golf? They're like start them really young, so they, I don't know, so I just feel like like, should I have done something already?


Uh huh. Yeah, I feel like there were the better, but it's always not wait to start like you can start whenever. Really.


Well, cool. Well I sat a timer and we're at a time, so it was nice chatting with you.


Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. You too.


Yeah, have a good one.


You too mm


Bye.


mhm. Okay, mm hmm. Mhm. It's how do you feel that you want to play? Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Oh, hey, how are you?


Okay. I'm good.


Oh, good.


How are you?


We're both early. Yeah.


Yeah. Mhm jay?


So what's your name jay? I'm matt nice to meet you.


Yeah, man, nice to meet you.


Yeah. Where are you from?


I'm from Oregon Corvallis here.


Okay, marvelous. Where Oregon state?


Mm Yeah, north Carolina.


Uh North Carolina.


It's too far.


Uh huh. Yeah. Very, very far.


Okay.


It's getting late here actually.


Yeah.


Uh I just like I was lucky and I just happened to check my email like an hour ago and I guess otherwise I would have, I would have forgotten about it.


Mhm. Yeah, The trailer, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, We were sleeping time for you guys.


Uh huh. Uh huh. Yeah.


Yeah, I'm sorry.


Have you, have you been on prolific long talk? Have you been on prolific a long time?


Yeah. Uh, I started in March when I graduated, so at that time I started mhm.


Oh yeah. Pretty good for uh, earning a little bit of.


Poseidon come. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. So non monster kind of better than others.


Uh but like since the covid started, like my income on that has really gone up because there's been so many like surveys for that.


Mhm.


Yeah, and I'm doing the same thing, like, uh, I'm graduated in March, so after that I don't have anything to do. So Why Not?


Uh uh what, what, what did you say?


This 1? Thanks. Oh, I did my masters here.


Okay, what what, Yeah.


Yeah. And computer Science.


Here, is that okay?


Yeah, not yet.


Yeah. In the job market now or?


So I'm looking for the job and applying everywhere. So let's see how it goes because of covid, like most of the companies are not uh starting the interview process as of now, so let's see how it goes.


Mhm. Oh, okay.


Yeah, I'm thinking to move to san Francisco or California somewhere.


Yeah. Do you uh do you want to stay and or again or you want to? Yeah, in a sense, yeah, I guess that's where most of the jobs are.


Yeah, Yeah. What about you? What you're doing?


I work of in a small business. Uh We do options and estate sales and e commerce.


Uh So I've been doing that about five years. Um It's not what I want to, it's a school for, I didn't major business, I just kind of just kind of fell into it.


Uh huh.


But that's cool.


Yeah, it's just it's just where life takes you sometimes.


Mm.


Uh Right.


So it's like your online e commerce website?


Yeah, we do that. Yeah, we did all uh amazon e bay uh facebook marketplace somewhat as well, so, and that the e commerce side has actually been better uh during covid the cells like for that, I've gone up a lot, but you know, we had to we couldn't do any auctions or anything like that for a couple of months.


Okay. Mhm. Yes, over here, so over here it's pretty good like as compared to other states, like in Oregon we have I think Around 600 I guess 600 or 700 cases.


So how how is the situation with the virus? Uh like? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mhm.


But yeah I know like in Washington and in California, it's it's pretty huge.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here, yeah, we're not as bad as uh like Arizona or texas or somewhere, but we're not as good as uh some other states either, thankfully that I live in a pretty rural area population, so like my county, uh it's not like it's not too bad, you're thankfully.


Mhm. Mhm. Okay then it's good like if it's a bigger area, like a bigger cities and everything then uh it's terrible over there.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah, I normally like to travel, but like, I don't have any interests right now, I'm going to or anything like that, so.


Mhm. Let's go.


Yeah. Study.


And then not Carolina is uh about florida right? Exactly about florida, right?


Yeah. Yes, On the east coast, it's uh between like florida and new york, kind of halfway between the two.


Mhm.


You've never been? Where have you been up? Like the East Coast?


Oh I east coast I've been to New Jersey new york, but I haven't been to downside fill florida, I have to I want to go and that's it. But after this Covid I don't think so we can move anywhere now.


Yeah. Yeah. So I don't blame you.


Yeah that was my plan. Like after graduation I wanted to move everywhere like other states, but uh not expected this.


Yeah. So did you go to Oregon state for undergrad?


Yeah I did mine look at here and then I did my masters.


Okay.


I know it's pretty long time.


And you don't? Yeah, like Corvallis?


Uh now I don't have options have to be here.


Yeah. Right, that's true. Good point. Good morning. Uh I've been to, I've been to Portland, but I haven't been to a poor balance before, so I like, I like I like the Northwest.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Well it's it's uh this area is like at the middle, not too hard, not too cold.


Uh I like the climate, I kind of like it's not as hot as it is here, and I like all the big forests uh and all that. It seems like a nice place to live well. Yeah. Mhm.


And we don't have a lot of snow in December. I guess we get 2-3 inch of snow. That's it. Mhm.


Yeah, kind of kind of similar to here.


Oh but rain, Yeah, entire year. You will get a rain sometimes. Yeah, it's unpredictable.


Yeah. Okay.


Yeah.


Uh So do you have like a preference for like where you want to work or like your specialty within computer science, or?


Right. I usually work on the front and side, so like how to design a user interface and everything, so that's my specialty here.


Mhm. Okay. Okay. Uh because I did this site user testing, you know what?


100. Mhm. Mhm. Oh I heard about it but I haven't tested, I haven't used that one.


Oh, it's uh it's for testing like it's like really interesting to me like just to see prototypes of uh designs and so forth.


Mhm.


Uh huh.


How is it like?


Um For like a self directed test.


Uh.


Like kind of like a prolific, it's like $10 a test.


Uh But then if you do like a video interview where your ball through a prototype with the U.


Okay. Mhm.


S. Like researcher, It pays either $30 for 30 minutes or 60.


Oh that's cool, mm.


Yeah or $60 for an hour. Uh And like the more you do like if you did like the more highly ready you get the work to get.


Mhm. Okay yeah that's pretty good.


Uh So it's like a pretty good little side income and you make more money than like prolific.


I have to try that. Yeah.


Yeah. It's definitely worth it.


Okay.


Absolutely. Uh It's just it's sort of like prolific though and that uh a lot of the tests though they're looking for like really specific equal.


Yeah what I did have installed the chrome extension, have you used that?


The screeners are really tough sometimes. That's kind of like the the only annoying kind of part about it. Oh yeah.


Yeah, so that's pretty good like uh you get a notification, you don't have to sit and watch like when you will get a study and it would be Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh. Like depending on the timing though, it's so annoying. Like I just like get up and like go get a drink or something to come back. You know, I meant like a dollar survey or something like but uh huh Because I mean, you know, I know most of them only pay like a dollar or so, but I mean over the money kind of adds up.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah sometimes we get this type of uh So like more than $10 or $5 here, Otherwise it's like one or 2, that's it.


Right? Yeah. Yeah. Well I was like doing one for Covid and it's like Once a week or every two weeks and it's like 10 hours.


Mhm.


So that's like help me this month like really earned just a little.


Uh huh.


I figure like a little for like the whole month if I can at least like pay my internet bill. But that yeah, that's what I make off prolific.


Yeah that's true mm I like to hiking and everything like hiking and traveling, so most of the time yeah over here in Oregon there's a lot of hiking places so that's pretty good.


I figured it's time well spent. So uh what do you like to do for fun when you're away from studying? Oh yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because we have, we have mountains of north Carolina, they're not anywhere nearly as big as uh like colorado or somewhere, but I mean if they are really pretty hikes and there are a lot of waterfalls and stuff like that, so it's pretty fun.


Mhm Right. Yeah yeah that's true.


Uh Yeah, I like doing, it's good to just get away from the phone, a computer screen and uh around nature. Uh Right.


No for nothing no network will be there. Uh huh.


Exactly. So, so do you feel like you've kind of coked pretty well during covid or you just ever Yeah.


No. Yeah mm. Over here I didn't feel like uh is there any change because everybody's roaming around and uh yeah the major problem is like restaurants are closed, all the shopping dropping and all the stores are closed, that's it.


Oh yeah. Yeah.


Other than that like everybody is roaming around but people are keeping their distance is so that's good.


Yeah. Right. Right. Are you, are you required to wear a mask? Uh Yeah, that's something joe.


Uh Yeah if you go to shopping and everything then yeah but otherwise if you are going around like uh you know on the roadside or you're walking on the sidewalk then it's not mandatory but you have to keep a distance of six point, that's it, how is it in Caroline?


Mhm. Right. Right. I've tried her. How big am I in my area?


I was in new york and yeah. Yeah.


Um Well we started a mandate with the mask like on friday finally and people yeah, friday finally it is um and the mask like usage has increased a lot since friday, but before that when I would go like to the grocery store, Like at most maybe like 20% of people would be wearing then it's really frustrating, I always try to wear like when I'm going inside somewhere, it kind of felt like a waste of time wearing one because the other people were wearing them.


Mhm On friday Oh that's a pretty long time and yeah okay. Yeah that's true, mm uh huh But it's for our safety so we have to do that.


Uh huh thankfully, thankfully people are paying more attention now to it and but I did wonder like why they, why they didn't do this like in april or may, I think it would have made a lot more sense.


Mhm Right, in Oregon they started I think then I proved first.


Uh they prefer.


Yeah, so from that time everyone is following all the rules from the state government which so they given the guidelines to all the restaurants and all the grocery stores and everyone so based on that their humanity.


Oh wow, okay. Oh yeah. You are. Do you know anyone who's had, do you know anyone who's had covid a little Uh huh.


I'm sorry. No, not as of now. Yeah.


I'm not certain people who had Mhm.


But yeah I heard like uh east coast like majority uh population is contracted to this uh disease and everything.


Yeah. Yeah. One person I know who hadn't recovered it was like no big deal at all. And then my cousin added he was actually in the hospital for it.


Mhm. Oh do you think it's based on it like uh.


Well that was pretty serious. Uh Like most younger people know they've all like, you know, they find even if they had a all right, I think I think it's eight and then like you're sort of existing health conditions Because one of the other people I know who had it, is there like in their 60s and they have heart problems already and that's why they had to go in the hospital.


Mhm.


So I think if you're if you're generally kind of poor health already, I think it's probably a lot more dangerous than if you're younger and don't have any existing health problems.


Yeah, that's true. Mhm.


I think. Uh I think we're just just for I mean life here.


Let's see how it goes. Right. Right.


For the most part it's not two different now.


Yeah. Mhm.


There's some stuff being closed. But I mean everybody is just ready for it too to go back to normal. But I don't think we'll have normal until we have a vaccine or something like that.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh.


Probably. Mhm.


But this normal will be different I think Until 2-3 years at least we have to face this.


Yeah. It'll still be different. Yeah, I agree with. Yeah. Yeah.


Even if you have a vaccine then also we have to make sure that.


Yes. Mhm. Yeah, I agree with you. It will have a like life used to be. But.


Yeah.


Oh have you have you traveled much like either within the U.


No.


S. Or around the world?


So I traveled like country wants.


So. Okay. Yeah.


So I've been to Canada India and do very and then paris and then us.


And Yeah. Okay.


You should you have a favorite or?


Uh favorite is India because of food here to and then.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh Yeah. My my uncle, he uh he went to graduate school with the richest guy in India.


Oh cool I'm burning.


Uh What's that, Lukash? Uh But yeah.


Yeah he lives just three blocks away from my house so I have a house in Mumbai and uh he just lives two blocks away from my house.


Oh really? I remember seeing pictures of that.


His village is huge here, Angela.


Uh I guess. Uh Yeah, so yeah you try to go back to India fairly often or?


Yeah and so every year at least one trip.


Okay, what is, how bad is the heat? Because I've heard it's like really well?


Oh yeah it's uh so right now in India it's a rainy season. So in India how climate is? It's like uh every season stay for four months, so four months for rain and another four months for uh heat and another four months for winter.


Mhm.


So in uh when it's in mamba and we don't get that much of hate because uh it's uh near to the ocean But roughly you can get around 90 or 100 for an idea.


Okay. Mhm. I remember saying, I guess it was by uh like before and after pictures of Covid with solution.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Uh huh. Oh yeah. Yeah pollution.


Like what a start address.


So uh I guess you have seen daily because pollution rise deli is more more polluted city than member.


Yeah. Isaka. Okay. And is it Mumbai that used to be Bombay?


Yeah it seems like most of the people I think even I don't remember correctly but it was a Bombay when I think british was there and after that they changed it to Mumbai.


Right. Yeah.


Yeah.


Okay. Alright. Trying to remember, you know, a little bit of indian. Yeah, it matters.


Uh huh. Where you been? Have you been to any other countries?


Yeah, I've been to Canada also I've been to Mexico a couple of the islands in the caribbean and then I've been to the UK uh uh within the UK Scotland.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Which one is your favorite? Oh Scotland.


Uh Yeah, I love I love I like history. Uh I love the old castles and going up to the highlands, I think it's one of the most beautiful places in the world.


Mhm. Oh yeah. Yeah.


Um, I don't like that, I like think there really is, I mean even uh like july and august, it can be cold and raining parson Oregon I guess.


Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I like that even though, I mean obviously, even though I speak english trying to, and like big accent, like I really had to concentrate kind of on what they were saying.


Mhm. Yeah that's called distraction. Yeah. I know you know what are my friends uh who was from Scotland and he came here to Oregon state for doing his PhD and my office in uh university uh we just sit beside and in our office and uh on my first day when he started talking I was like what he's talking, I don't understand anything like this language.


Okay. Mhm Oh right, right.


His tone is different than the keeper. Like the pronunciation is different entirely different. Were able to keep that attention to what he's saying.


Yeah. Yeah. How do you speak english and hindi, what else do you speak?


Yeah I speak I think 123 or foreign languages. I speak uh english in the Gujarati marty and Son script.


You just make sense for it? Really?


Yeah not well but kind of I can understand that. I can talk yeah but in writing I don't know anything.


Oh no. Is it difficult to learn as, I think it probably is or?


So I did my uh my schooling in India. So till uh 10th grade we have to learn every language is so my mother tongue is got so I have to speak that language at home.


Okay.


So uh I know from home that language and uh I was living in Bombay and Mumbai come center Maheras frustrated. So in that so if you go in India if you travel one state to another state then language will be changed.


Oh, okay. All right.


So all of India all indians will speak Hindi. But if you go to other States then their States will have their own languages.


Yeah. Okay.


So in that way I have to learn mara Moradi and hindi is like all indian language.


Uh huh Yeah.


So we have to learn and since it was in my school so everyone here also.


Mm Is there is there like a big difference between all of the languages it is or?


Mm hmm. If I can say like hindi, Hindi, Sanskrit and Barati all are similar but which are these little bit different here.


Okay. Okay, wow.


Uh huh.


Do you try to like uh when you're living here to try to speak in your native language is just to say you don't like forget anything?


Great. Yeah I have to so I would call my dad and mom and they are here right now but previously they were in India and so most of the relatives are in India.


Mhm.


So we have to talk and we have a big like a huge family.


Oh.


So if you just make a call to everyone then you you need at least one week.


Uh huh. But Uh huh. Oh yeah.


Uh huh. Mm.


Trying to wondering how much time we have.


Yeah I think till our time was seven o'clock, so at least till 7 25. We have to talk.


So what Yeah, I don't have any problems with the getting the money.


Yeah. Yeah, just for five minutes and one minute extra step aside if they Yeah.


Uh I was Yeah Right.


Yeah. Just be on the safe state.


Uh uh so what did like you did you have to do like a master's thesis or Masters like big project?


Mhm. I did it with the project.


Yeah. Project Yeah.


Yeah, because I don't want to go in a PhD. So if you want to go into the PSP then you have to go without CCS.


Right. Oh yeah yeah, she is a long time to say.


Okay. I know it's like uh at least you have to spend six years, at least six years.


Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah.


Yeah and then finding a job in academia as it was very difficult.


And stuff. Yeah. Mhm. So life long you have to learn new things if you drink PST.


Yeah. You have you have you entered anywhere internship where?


Uh huh. Yeah, I did my internship. So uh at Microsoft?


Oh really? Okay.


Yeah, in Washington, it's just the next week.


Yeah okay that wasn't like that Seattle or?


Yeah, it's in Seattle Bellevue.


Okay. Yeah. Uh couple months ago I still have like all of my old computers And I was able to get one of them working and it's it's bad.


Mhm. Mhm Oh Oh, Windows 95.


Windows 95 on it.


That's pretty old.


Mhm. It was fun to play around with very low, but there was a lot of nostalgia playing with that a little bit.


Yeah. Mhm.


Yeah, I don't Oh sure.


Yeah, that's very good. Because I don't think so when Microsoft will support that, even if you call them like I have been no sex so that they will hang up.


Probably, I guess maybe like They even service like Windows 2000 or Windows Millennium anymore, thanks to you.


Yeah. God. Uh I don't think so. Probably the last one will be Window seven. No experience also gone.


Oh, wow. Okay.


Yeah, so I think Windows seven Probably they will be supporting Windows seven.


So. Okay, do you do you prefer like Pcs or Macs?


Yeah, I prefer Mac, but I have to use Windows over there because Microsoft don't use my continues.


Yeah. Right. Right, okay.


Yeah. In Windows you have a lot of options and it's confusing when you have a lot of option.


Yeah. Oh, and I'm not like not smart enough probably to get a degree in computer science, but like most computer problems I can handle myself usually.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's really good like uh Mhm.


Yeah, I had to take it into like a repair shop or anything like that.


You don't have to take that. Yeah.


Yeah, like I've been able to like before like upgrade the RAM and the hard drive, like they're all that on my uh for them as part.


Okay, frankly speaking this degree like computer science degrees and everything is a waste of money. If you just open internet and just type it, you can learn everything whatever you want and Mhm.


Yeah, I know, I know a little bit of html but that as far as programming languages go, that's a battle on uh Oh yeah, yeah.


But you can nowadays you can learn languages quickly. Like in one or two weeks you can start programming.


Yeah. one of my friends, like he works uh mhm. It looks like the national weather service, but like he got like a big raise because he learned python, right?


Mhm. Okay. Yeah, it's booming right now.


Yeah. They were desperate to find somebody like to do it with no python, so you just like took the time to learn it.


Yeah. Mhm.


And he just said like there's all these like over like, I guess programming languages that a lot of younger people I guess don't necessarily know.


All right. Yeah.


So if you can like admit language to study, you can do well.


Yes, that's true.


So yeah.


It depends like on a company basis like what they prefer and based on that they can give you money.


Do you think because you're doing a conflict if you wanted to, which you have the option somewhere like to probably like work remotely?


All right. Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah.


So in cultural sense, I think majority of the companies right now working remotely and they don't have a pay cut or anything else, everything is running smoothly.


Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was really like google had already said they were going to do it like through the end of the year.


What? Yeah, even google and twitter now that for the rest of the life they are going offline sorry, remote.


Right?


So if you want to come to the office then welcome if you don't want to then it's okay, that's fine.


Yeah. That's a great for a lot of people and you have to send the traffic every day and all that.


Right work. But I think going to offices good idea because then you interact with people and Yeah.


Yeah. And I do agree with you. Yeah. Are you uh are you prepared for the really high cost of living in san Francisco?


Yeah. As of now I I'm not expecting anything to september, let's see what happens.


All right. one of the worst places in the country just for life rental, everything.


But yeah. Yeah, but I'm ready to go anywhere. It's also I have made a video open as one or 2 minutes.


Uh huh. Yeah. Uh huh. All right. So I guess for uh you know, if then I did one of these before uh like six months ago and it was good also.


Yeah. Mhm. Like this like a video call Oh yeah, I can tell you nothing to say.


Yeah. Yeah. And that like that person I talked to that was fun. Like it's been fun talking to you too. So I was worried that like I was somebody like we would have nothing to talk about rebound. Just like forever.


Mhm.


Have a very awkward.


But it was quick.


Yeah. Yeah. It's good. So learn a quick $15 just to have fun. Uh one That's pretty good.


Yeah, sure I have a room right here.


So do you do you live alone or you have roommates? All right. Okay.


Yeah.


Yeah. Are they computer science also work?


No, no, no, no, none of them are from comparisons.


Uh Yeah.


one is in uh adding psychologic and the other one, it's not stealing.


And uh Oh, is that I was trying I was trying to think is uh isn't cricket the biggest sport?


He's doing the job. No, I think he started something but he dropped it and now he's full times of year in India. Yeah.


Yeah. Right. I thought so. I was trying to remember, right?


Because I'm a sports fan, but that's one sport that I know like very uh it was interesting, but I just I don't know the rules.


All right.


If you don't know the rules, then it's it's not interesting anything. Even for me when I came here uh when they discovered uh football over here uh us Good World.


I Yeah.


I didn't understand anything like what they're doing and anything.


Uh huh grounds asked me about that and they try to get me to explain it to them. And I mean there are just so many rules that don't even play traffic and played it take for it or so.


Yeah. Mhm.


And I like international soccer or Uh huh.


Oh yeah, That's that's pretty cool. Everyone will we know about that. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. That's universe. So everybody knows. Uh But I need to learn I'm trying to learn more about other sports as well, but Kirk is just a little intimidating.


Yeah. I know.


I just see some of the scores and they just don't make any sense to me.


Uh huh.


They really get into it like in the university and versus Yeah.


Yeah, they will. There's a lot of rules. So you have to watch I think at least 7-8 match. And after that I think you will understand something.


Okay. Try sometime then.


Yeah. Okay.


Uh All right.


I think, yeah, we can go up. That's 28 Year next to talk to.


Well, All right. Great to talk to you and uh, good luck on the job market and everything.


Yeah. Yeah.


All right.


You, too.


All right. Take care.


Yeah.


Okay.


Take care. Goodbye.


Well, home screen. I don't think my persons joined quite yet. Yeah. Yeah, my hair looks okay. You can put it to the side, you know why? Yeah. Kind of sucks. I can't move my a little window. I should have just Mhm Yeah. Hair is just being, dude, it's cool. Oh yes. Morning. I don't think what we've got movement. Hello?


How are you?


Yeah, I am having some sound issues me just a second.


Mm.


Why is my sound not working? Um Right, let's try. Looks okay. Hello?


Can you hear me?


Yes, I can. Can you hear me?


Yes.


Fantastic? I'll turn that down quite about. There we go already. Hi, my name is Brandon. Where are you?


Really? I'm Evan. How are you?


I'm tired this this week was crazy.


We're getting ready for a busy time at work, so, but we're going to uh north Texas.


Where, where are you in the country?


We're about 10 minutes away from the Oklahoma border.


Um And I'm just north to Chicago.


Okay, cool.


Okay.


I've actually only been outside of texas like three times.


Actually we can present.


I need to change.


Sure. Mhm. My wife is from Dallas.


I've been through Dallas a few times, but we live a little bit closer to uh we're in Wichita Falls, so we're right by the Oklahoma border.


Thanks to go. Right, look, stop.


Yeah.


Gotcha.


Yeah. Uh huh.


Have you done one of these before?


I have this is my second one.


I have? This is my second efforts.


My purpose when I spoke to a super nice southern grandma lady from Georgia that told me her peach cobbler recipe.


Uh huh. No.


Yeah. And we tried, it was actually a pretty good recipe.


Yeah, no, I've done one before, but I've had a bunch where nobody showed up.


Is this your 1st 1?


So, you know, you get paid a little Uh huh.


Yeah. See My 1st 1. Yeah.


I was sort of, you know, I was sort of hope for that. No offense.


Oh yeah, completely good.


Oh, I mean, I wonder what they're, what they're looking at.


The easiest money is always the best money. So there you go. Maybe it's just the way that people from, I always thought it was just like the way that people from different areas of the country like converse or like maybe they're seeing that people are going to start getting heated on like political things or something like that.


Maybe it's just a lot of people from the asylum. Right. Right. Yes. Right. Mhm.


They're just seeing how quarantine is affecting the human mind says my yet.


I appreciate that. Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah.


So let's pick a random topic I suppose.


Yeah. Mhm.


Right. We get a lot of time to kill.


Um So what is the, what is what's one of your hobbies?


Um Well, I have two small kids, so they occupy most of my, all my time.


Yeah. Okay. Okay. I feel that I've got a six year old that's currently playing roadblocks in the living room. So I get it a little girl.


Uh huh. Boy or girl? I have two boys. four and just about to be too.


So fun. So you've got still terrible sometimes but adorable face that you have to forgive And then Chinese version of that amplified by 10.


Yeah. Mhm. But the to the, yeah the two year olds are tough for the four year old. Can not all the time, but can least with an ipad, you know, if need be.


Yeah. Yeah.


But a two year old suggested a really tough bitch. As you know, or maybe you don't remember.


Well I tried to repress but unfortunately some of it still comes through everyone smile.


It's easy to forget.


But my child, when she was two, she was actually pretty manageable. She was actually really sweet and quiet and happy. But then when she had like 3.5 it was like right on the six months of her 3.5 it was like satan had taken up occupation and her body or something like she went to hell and just we had some trouble with her for about three months and then she went back to just being pretty mellow and that was the craziest time that we ever had to wear.


Hello? Mhm. Yeah. Oh and she said sure that's weird. Kids are finding out.


It's yeah, it was just like a light foot home.


Is she in is she in school now?


We've actually got her, uh luckily my mother in law is a saint and essentially homeschooling her now.


Fashion. What could be my response? Six?


Um it's through the districts of the public school that she would have been going to and that she had gone to for kindergarten, but they didn't necessarily, we didn't like the health precautions that they were taking for covid. Um So we decided to do the virtual learning and her mom, even with me working from home was like, hey, she's my only grandchild, let me help raise her. You know, she's awesome.


You're lucky.


So yeah.


Yeah.


Oh my God, like I tell everybody I meet there, like, so your, your mother in law seems pretty cool.


Yeah. Like I don't know, I mean narrator? Mm Okay.


I'm like, oh, she's the best woman that's ever been born.


Uh huh.


And I think every day for allowing me to exist, she's just awesome.


Mm Yes. Also, Yeah. Yeah. So what? It had been what? But there is if you had went in person, it's like it's totally in person or what's the right virtue?


Oh no, they have technically three different options. I think there's one where you can go just fully in person or fully virtual or they have what's a mix where it's essentially like you're in the classroom most like half of the time and then the other half you're doing virtual stuff for like electives, like art and key and music and all that.


Good. Wait, yes.


But just our our governor for texas just isn't doing a very good job with Covid. And then our local county is also just being very um, we're going to listen to all the rednecks and hillbillies that still want to play golf and be able to go to the shooting range and bowling and not wear masks.


So yeah, So the kids have to do, the kids have to wear masks in school.


So we we were like, you know, they do, we actually have one city that's right outside of ours.


Do you know, terrible, terrible.


It's just like a little kind of country town where they just made it toward elementary kids do not have to have a mask. But then they also had a massive outbreak at their high school. We're out of 128 kids that go to the high school. I think this is that 62 of them tested positive in one day. But yeah, absolutely.


I mean, luckily, I mean, my kids are luckily we're not, we just got caught a break. But that's what I mean, our, our community luckily took this relatively seriously.


And hospital.


And so it takes it relatively seriously, uh, early on.


Yeah, Yeah.


So not that we've been spared, but you know, and there's no people wear the masks here. There's no, I haven't seen any now any fight.


Anti maskers, we have a few people down here, but don't I mean it's mostly just like The crackheads at 7:11 and the rednecks that driving the massive trucks, they think they're better than everybody.


People just wear it here and it's not a big deal. So we're fortunate. Yeah, but out there. I mean, especially. Mm hmm.


But other than that, most people tend to be sticking with the mask.


Brother course.


And I mean social distancing is all for, you know, nothing down here.


Okay.


But they least do the mask and try to keep everything sanitized, but we're still not, you know, like going out to eat or anything.


Yeah. Right. Where we haven't been, uh, we've done take out obviously. But uh, I can't imagine.


Yeah, we've got tons of time, right?


I mean, restaurant seems to be the, I mean, that movie theaters, I don't know what people are thinking going to a movie theater. You know I mean what's the why can't you what?


Like why do you want a convenient damp and just like kind of icky most of the time and be like, this is a good place to go during a viral epidemic, right?


It's not that Yeah here just like yeah I mean I got a I got on a plane once but only for something very important but I wouldn't just do that and even then I checked every precaution I could possibly take.


Absolutely.


Uh But yeah it's just people are crazy. That's what you learned through this. If you didn't know it already. People are nuts. Although my wife thinks I'm nuts. I'm doing this right now. So we've started Mhm.


When we first started with this, I was like, no, I don't want to do video calls with people for like a buck and then we get started getting more into it.


Uh huh. Conservative.


I was like, okay, this is actually pretty neat. You know, it doesn't take, you kind of get to have, you know, a little bit of fun with it and you get a couple of bucks hoist on stuff.


Mhm.


Why not?


Yeah I uh I can't get her I can get her to do a bunch of stuff but I can't get her to do uh the video calls.


Yeah. Yeah. My life is actually getting ready for her video call because mine was scheduled for 9:00 and um her is is scheduled for 10, so as soon as I get she's essentially hopping down and sit in my chair and just using my work computer for two well 100.


Yeah. Uh huh. I hope those goes as well as this one appears to be other words when we still got a little ways to go.


Yeah That's a crazy thing to me is like they're always like Okay well it has to be 25 minutes long and I'm like Man, even if you're just like super vibrant with somebody like you all just get along great.


I mean okay and even if you're super viable, look at the right Forget I mean a close forget someone.


25 minutes is a long time to be forced to talk. Mhm.


You're forgetting a close friend even what you know what is there to talk about? 25 minutes? I mean it's not I mean we could talk I suppose we could start talking about abortion and you know we could pick the most random controversial topics imaginable.


You know after 15 minutes, like even my best buddy, I'm like Alright man, like let's do something else, this is too much. Uh huh. Yeah, there that's weird.


Um Do you do I'm sorry I didn't I missed you.


Right? Oh that's where my last conversation with is a little bit political but she was on the opposite side for me that she was she was pleasant about it, so I was happy.


So that's where my last doctor says you know what all the time. Oh so she went from peach cobbler to politics.


Yeah went from peach cobbler to how she hates donald trump but at least he wears a suit and I didn't understand that one but I just I rolled with it.


That's funny. Um Are you on you do you do you do mechanical turk as well?


Mhm. Yeah. Um I actually just signed up for that I think like three days ago and I've been a little bit busy at work, I was looking into it to see if it was cool but I just I haven't had a chance to actually start anything on it but I think tomorrow I'll have a little bit of time to actually be able to look into it.


Oh yeah thanks. It's not as the each one is not like this one I'm prolific. You know each one is going to be high quality, there's money to be made there but you have to uh you have to be more focused.


Right? Mhm. I had one a couple days ago where like I did everything right on it and then I missed the last um attention check on it and it was like for £99 or something and they waved it because of that last attention check that I felt and I know that I felt I was like, oh, I should have switched that because I clicked the wrong one and they felt that I was like, man, that's fair.


Aaron I don't get it. Yes.


But it still sucks.


Did you write them? Did you write them?


Um I did. They haven't said anything, but I was, yeah, they've been um everybody that I've worked with on its own bars with super cooperative except for one, but they just, they didn't respond, but they ended it early for something.


Yeah. A lot of times there are a lot of times they'll work with you think everybody so Okay, okay.


So I don't know right?


Yeah. No I mean mturk you can just definitely nice ice tend to stick with like the academic surveys but there's all kinds of crazy things you can do transcribing and I've done my fair share of madness late at night.


See my wife was just telling me about a week and a half ago before I started looking into it about it and I was like, okay, that actually looks pretty cool.


Yeah. See my wife was just about, everything happened over priced into about it has Jason research.


And I was doing some research and you know, it was going pretty cool. And I just, I never actually got to the point of actually sitting down and starting anything on it, but Right.


Yeah. So how long have you been on prolific? I assume that's where you got that. That's where at least I'm getting this from I assume.


Yeah, I got mine from prolific and I've been on here for about uh Let's say three months or so, just a little bit after March.


Yeah. Thank you.


So I'd say probably like april 10th - 15th or something, somewhere right around there.


Yeah.


And I mean, we've made enough to, you know, be happy with it because I just sit here while I'm working from home and if I see a little notification pop up, I just click through it real quick while listening to music. I'm good to go.


Yeah right now it's uh hard to complain.


Yeah, Right. It's a great way to waste time, because at least you're making a little bit of money.


Yeah, direct way. Fuck. And it's like a little bit of currency trading too, you know because you're getting in towns.


Yeah, Yeah. Makes you feel important because you're like, oh, I have to switch this from british talent so that I could use it over here.


Uh No and sometimes I mean the crazy number comes up, you know like £15,, you know?


Yeah, I got one a couple days ago, it was for like 17 and I was like, that's not right. That's going to say like 75 Since or something and it was 17 and I was like, Wow, that's awesome. We get to eat pizza tonight instead of bread.


Well I feel like right during the I guess it sounds like you were on it.


Uh huh.


I mean I I think I've only been on the beginning of the year but right? When Covid the March, I feel like there was a million Covid this and Covid that study.


You don't handle right.


But it was crazy. It was just beyond sad. It was beyond lucrative right? At that moment, right?


Exactly. And that's what me and my wife we're talking about one of the first times we're talking about it because she got like 13 covid surveys in one day. Each one of them was for, and I got like six, but each one of them was like an hour or like a half hour long and for like $3.


And it was just like, man, I've done nothing but click on buttons for Covid.


To me, it's like, yeah, it's kind of like a bummer.


Yeah. And it's there 100 people.


Do you want to watch something funny on Youtube?


Yeah.


Like that's how we've been dealing with coronavirus is just watching epic fail compilations and just pretending it's not existing over at home.


But it's funny like once you get into it, like you learned the uh the attention check like you would think they would get more clever about it because they've become so obvious like you know exactly what you're looking for?


Right? Mhm. You can scan through and it's anything that says, please select or something along those legislators.


That's scary, right? Right, sometimes I get a little more, I've seen stuff like the really creative ones, like the first one, it will be like I consent yes or no, the really creative ones will be like to tell you to click no, you know, I don't consent.


Check click. Mm hmm.


But those are there was a very few and far between, but you do have to be mindful. Sometimes there are they're real, real crazy ones out there.


The one that was like, it was actually almost entertaining.


Mhm.


It was like just to make sure that you're paying attention and that it was like this weird little like word puzzle thing and like you have to select the correct answer is something that is pretty simple.


Holy Mhm Right, Well it's been actually last couple days seven, it's been actually really amazingly nice.


But it was like the most unique attention check that I've seen so far. Okay, cool. Well, at least there, you know, trying to make it better than please select strongly disagree well. Mhm. So how is the weather just north of Chicago awesome.


Um So what about what about in texas?


Mhm. Oh north. It's just, it's hot and humid. Pretty much all the time. We got two days of it being in the sixties And then it dropped down to like 40 And then it spiked back up to 95 the same day.


Mm Yeah, no 95 we don't have yes.


Mhm. Take it. Everybody was like I was here and I was like, no, it's not, it's never here until about like january and then all the trees dying, it just feels like McGee crap and then ices over one time and a bunch of people getting rex and like script like ours and then it's over and it's hot again, We have summer and then we have diet summer and the closest thing that we've gotten to an actual winter was just a freak blizzard and I think it was like 2010 or 2011 and it like it blanket, it is more than, I think texas has ever been hit.


Yeah, our first started. Oh, I don't know what's true. Yeah, no, we definitely we have a winter with with snow and shovels and Mhm. Well, Mhm. All right. Uh huh. Yeah, come on. Mhm.


But other than that it's just, I've lived here my entire life and we've seen real snow I think twice the right.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, I grew up I mean, I grew up in new york originally, so I've I grew up at snow, Yeah.


See I'm envious because me and my uh at least I will now um I hop on my truly app sometimes and I go and search for like houses and like Anchorage Alaska like Seattle wash and I'm like whenever we discover the next blah blah blah and we become filthy rich, this is the house that we're moving into.


Oh my truth. Okay. Yeah, yeah.


And she's like, okay sure, whatever do.


Mhm, Mhm.


Well, It's really not.


Can't be cheap in Anchorage, which I assume.


They got some nice houses out there.


Yeah, what, you know?


They're like $3,000 a month for like a two bedroom. It's like 800 square feet. But I mean, I think if I'm going to move anywhere, it's probably not going to be somewhere where it's like 800 square feet for $3,000 a month.


Yeah, no, it's all that, I mean, that's like new york prices.


Mhm. Like we have, I think 1200 square feet, 300 and we pay 750.


Yeah, it's four, right, When I assume uh, amazon to Anchorage, it's not exactly, there might be some delays, you know?


Yeah. Right. That's just the amazon plane that flies in and lands on the river.


It was on plan. Well, police in cities, it's like, it's hard to believe it's the same country, you know?


I was a moose or two and it's like, here's your pepper shaker. Exactly. Well you gotta wait through all the maple syrup and poutine and stuff before you get there.


No.


So how many jokes about Canada and Putin?


Mhm. Uh huh.


But I had a poutine from a restaurant here in town a couple heard not a couple days ago before Covid and it was actually fantastic and I totally understand why they just, I don't know, yeah, hug in your mouth and it's like, here you go buddy, just have a better day.


Yeah, I lived in Montreal for a year. Yeah, I mean, it's basically it's basically glorified cheese fries, you know I mean? But what's not to like, I mean, I'll give your mouth, yeah. Okay.


Like especially as a fat kid, like as soon as I figure out what was in poutine, I was like, I need to have that.


Mhm, mm hmm.


Mhm.


Yeah, if you if you use a different word and just describe it as, you know, fancy cheese surprised, but it's not, thank you.


Mhm. Yeah, it's um yeah, essentially just fancy cheese for is oh, man, so what do you have planned for the rest of the weekend? Yeah.


Not a whole lot.


Uh huh I think I'm going to complain.


We have swim class, luckily swim classes still continuing.


Yeah.


So we have swim class tomorrow without kids.


Okay, that's not too man. Yeah, that's not too bad.


I'm sorry. Yeah.


One class can always be fun.


Now we're lucky. Uh, it's a blessing that it it's continuing.


Yeah, absolutely, luckily we were with my hobby, I played dungeons and dragons because I'm a massive nerd.


Yeah. Right. Mm.


And uh with my hobby, we went electronic for a little bit at the beginning of quarantine um playing online and then we finally, about a month and a half ago got to the point where we were playing in person again and it's every other week and it's just me and a bunch of fat dudes getting together and just, you know, doing random fantasy crap on the table.


Yeah. Yeah, sure.


But it's just having that hobby, like actually with my friends and being able to get out of the house, everyone soil is just it's made a world of difference like with being able to at least remember what day it is because I'm like it's not frightened.


Sure. Sure. Absolutely.


Okay.


No, it's it's just funny that whatever your, whatever anybody's into that, uh, it uh, a lot of things you can do the computer. But no, I was even here, I had a I have a neighbor who's, you know, even a traitor. And he was saying because obviously a lot of that you can do from a computer anywhere.


Right bank or Mhm.


But he was saying actually that uh, being in the room together because actually people talking and sharing ideas live can actually produce good results. You know, imagine that. So it's just uh how does it, how would it work online?


But well it depends on what type of software website you're using.


Because like I've never really played but because you have you have it's all about like having physical cards. Right, right. Well.


Like the main one that we used is called roll 20 because you know, you roll 20 sided dice and all that stuff, but it essentially makes it as a virtual tabletop.


Right. Yeah, that's right. Right.


So when you're actually looking at maps and stuff, you're able to move little avatars that you've made to essentially work like you're there in person and they've got all of the books and the rules that are built into it because the DND is just a fancy way of saying that you know you really want to play pretend with your friends and you want to include math and primitive Phil.


People, mm Thank you. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh.


But online it's actually pretty cool. There's a bunch of different software so that you can use with it.


Thank you Doctor.


But it's mostly just um knowing that you have enough people to actually be able to utilize the websites that they have. Because if you only have like two or three people sometimes it's not that great, but if you have like four or five then you can start putting in like api Softwares that actually process roles and enemies and stuff like that for you.


Do you like do you like video, do you video chat during it or no? Is it all just uh I wanted to check up, but like I just like the software itself, you have to like separately do it or like the software itself just hand you can you can like uh you know what I'm saying?


Sometimes it's a video chat most of the time it's just voice. Um it's just audio because a lot of the guys are just like, I don't need my web came on because I'm, you know, playing a goblin right?


But you have to enter a separate like group chat you gave me?


Uh We do have a separate group chat that we use just because it's a better quality. We utilize discord for it most of the time. But the website actually does have built in like, audio and visual video capabilities, but it's just it's kind of litchi because they tried to focus more on the actual processing for the main reason that people like come to the website and they put that in just because some people requested it, because they didn't want to have to use something outside.


Thanks. Yes.


So with people with, like, huge high powered gaming computers, it works great.


Gotcha. Yeah.


But for somebody with me that has a crap top from work, it's like, I can't really do that, I'm going to use this work.


Right. Right. Right, Right. Makes sense. So what's like an optimal number of players?


Uh what I've played with just two people before, essentially just passed through the night. I've also D M and the D.


What? Yeah.


M. Is essentially the person that's telling the story I personally ran as a DM up to 12 people and that was just absolutely Fucking Chaos, usually right around 4-6 people depending on who they are, because everybody generally plays differently.


Yes. People. Yeah.


Like you've got some people that are just like I'm going to murder and steal everything, or the people that want to act out every aspect of their character um and stuff like that.


Mhm.


So as long as we know the people that you're working with, usually about 4 to 6 is the best because you can have multiple things going on with everyone, but also everyone else are like, each particular player can have like specific personal things that are going on so that they can grow their character or get that new magic spell or whatever the hell they're trying to do.


Yeah.


Can I ask just what age did you start?


Um I actually started um the first time I ever heard about it, I was like 12, but I never really started until I was like 16 or 17. I played one game and I hated it because the guy that was running it was horrible at doing it.


Um And then I started my job at Applebee's in about six months into Applebee's.


Mhm Of the Cool.


One of the other guys that I was working with was like hey do you want to come over to my house and play D. And D. And I was like 19 at the time, and I was like, I don't know man, I tried it before and I didn't really like it and he's like well I'm buying pizza wings and there's going to be free beer, so come and just hang out and if you like it, maybe you'll play. And I was broke and working at Applebee's. So I was like, yeah, absolutely, I'm going to come over for free food and my friends and I ended up making a gnome rogue. uh that had a bad habit of just stabbing people if they got into any confrontation. Um Like they'd be like, hey how's it going? He was just like panic and stab somebody and then just run off. Um And from there I was just like, you know, this might be too nerdy for me or something, I've never gotten this deep into something, but then it went just absolutely bonkers from there and like it's like my biggest hobby. I ended up, like I started painting minis on the shelf back here, I've got a few of them, and then that's a mask that my buddy three D. Printed, that he's gonna he's throwing his characters. Okay, cool.


Well, I think we're at uh 25 minutes, right?


I believe we just passed mind showing account of 30, but I know I got here a few minutes early, so as long as the years have shown past 25, we should be good.


Yeah. I think we I started at at right around nine. So pleasure talking to you.


Okay, so we should be good to go, man.


Take care.


Absolutely you said.


Stay safe.


Okay. Bye. Bye.


Right.


Mhm. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. What?


right. I have bad.


Hello?


Mhm. Mhm Okay.


Yeah, can you hear me?


Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me?


I can hear you but it sounds like almost like staticky.


Oh yeah, that's just even when I use my parents with, I'm sorry.


God. Yeah, no problem. I get started by saying you, so we're all good.


Okay.


No, it's no problem. Well, my name is Gabrielle.


Are never figure.


How you doing today?


Oh, good.


You know, I'm a little sleepy. I don't know about you. I'm on Eastern Standard time, so it's like nine. I have.


Yes, Thank you.


Mhm.


I'm from pennsylvania.


Right now I'm from michigan.


Where you from? Okay.


Yeah.


Not too far away.


My company moves in michigan.


How do you know a part?


No.


Mm That's fair.


And that's my dog.


That's totally fair. Yeah, I yeah.


All right. All right. Um, I'm just working on art history for college.


Mm uh I never see you go to Okay.


Yeah. Uh Tennessee after you do it?


I toured there. I go to the University of Michigan.


Okay.


Good good colleges. Uh huh. Mhm Guys, Okay.


So how has your university responded to Covid?


They responded.


Uh huh. I don't have to be good. As I can say. It's good with the bad. It's good there.


Uh huh. Okay. Are you guys like doing like hybrid and stuff like that?


Yeah. Listen, our classes are online, but they kept a couple of comparison which available control the dumb ones to the other person with my english classes very soon, but they won't let me um, like the national people be impressed and like the one for me until I actually see here's one.


Mm Yeah. So that's crazy.


Uh huh.


That's insane. So I'm like a business student.


Yeah, mm hmm.


There is legitimately zero reason for my, any of my none of my thoughts should be in person.


Okay. If Yeah.


And yet some of them are like hybrid because you choose whether or not you're in person. Meanwhile I do have like two nurses to the roommates. They don't want to the hospital all the time.


What? Mhm Yes. Yeah. I don't I don't know why they're being so we're here that they can sit with Probably uh you're starting football back up here.


What? Uh It's so weird though because I'm like, Like 15 years they're going to look back and be like, Oh, maybe we should have done this instead. Same. Same. Which it's probably the, I think they're done missing.


Mhm.


That could have done because I don't know about y'all. But we just hit like a new spike in cases like our Quarantine housing has just hit like 100% capacity.


Right. Yeah, we didn't like to. Mhm.


It's super embarrassing. And then like one of our big rivalry games is on, not only is it on a saturday. Not only is it a night game, but it's also on Halloween. So yeah, when I found that out, I was like, oh, we're gonna die.


Yeah. This is nothing in the world.


Okay. No, it's gonna be really bad. I'm probably gonna leave like the city for a little bit. Just because that's atrocious.


Oh, okay.


Never.


Are you going to be impressed?


Mm hmm.


Like on campus? The whole global, this is necessary.


No. So I guess um we have like a week long break for thanksgiving. I don't know when it starts but a week off for thanksgiving and then everything is going online, but I'm pretty sure there's still letting people stay in the dorms.


And the dorms have gotten. Yeah. Exactly. And then I've heard the dorms have gotten so bad. One of them legitimately just had to shut down and just complete lockdown because they just had so many cases.


Okay. So well, yeah, yeah, we're also doing that.


Okay. Yeah.


Thanksgiving great. Um we're going home and will be going online from I'm actually all right, how many freshmen one? Mhm. We can make the walls that they're coming down.


Oh so okay. So I wasn't already last year I quit. But how is it being like an R. A. In all of this? Because I can only imagine, but I haven't found a chance to talk to any ras Yeah.


Uh huh. I did not actually having to interact with my residents, which is actually pretty nice because I don't want to talk to.


I feel that in my soul you have no idea how much I feel that.


Yeah.


Oh I'm mhm.


So I have to counseling sessions that's like that's, that's still absolute partial your afternoon. It's stupid that I don't know why I have to counsel them.


Yeah, you're not trained on that.


Mhm. So I check in like as much as you need someone to talk to you about the bones, unless it's like a roommate issue, it's an issue that come talk to me. So they give up for two seconds on zoom bill. I'm perfectly fine. This is stupid. And then that's it and that's what I put in my room.


Uh huh. You right mm. Yeah that it's hilarious because it's so ridiculously tragic that you can't really do anything except laugh about it because they shouldn't be doing that.


Oh wow.


I don't know if you heard but like rrs went on strike. So we had um are like graduate student employees went on strike. So a lot of like discussion classes were cancelled.


Um All right, the door of my house was open really loudly.


Mhm mm.


Um One of my my germ, I'm a german minor so my german classes got canceled because like half the department is run by graduate students. She cancelled class. Then our our race went on strike because they're like wearing these dorms with these idiot freshman. You're not providing any any safety precautions, no hazard pay nothing. And our dining hall staff went on strike as well.


Uh huh.


When I'm on straight, I'm not getting hazard pay anything either, but we're smart enough to strike it.


Uh huh. Do you guys get paid at your university as an R.


Yeah, So we get 3000 ft food and then we get I think $500 a semester.


A. Yes. We just got free housing and food and they said be happy with that.


All right. I don't know when the 500 every new thing. Um I just take care. Listen, great.


Maybe they're considering manager hasn't pay.


I have no clue.


Yeah.


I don't know if it was having cocktails in the eyes last year have been said if it was something needed last as well.


Right. Yeah.


Uh It's kind of yesterday counts himself, so so in that with them, I just busted a party on friday.


Yeah. Yikes.


Um 20 people in a two person doing the real yeah the out 76 um after beer cans, uh what people Vodka that we're finished with an additional two that were being partially consumed independence of whiskey.


Oh whoa. Mhm. Oh.


Um and another two, and they had like another two more 12 packs of beer and Mhm, wow.


Mhm.


So you know from the door, because we saw a couple of people like run over and we felt we were going to get them to people and whatever, you don't have a poor people in the room and we knocked on the door and you do the open, stood up and they're all crammed in.


Mhm. Mhm.


There were all of it wasted and we didn't know what to do.


We call that coordinator, We have coordinators wondering and she said I hope these you gotta have.


Mhm. Yeah mm. And with. Uh huh.


So we show up um a coordinator shows up and it turns out that half of the people in that door we're not from and say they're from pitt no mass no anything.


Okay. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


They just campus in the middle of the night and decided to party.


Yeah. Mhm.


Um Yeah just like they let them in our dorms which you're not supposed to have people from other buildings.


Uh huh. Mm hmm. Yeah.


And the only thing that happened was the police effort.


Uh huh.


This is bullshit.


I don't I'm like what pisses me and I was like a thing that pissed me off as an R. A. Whereas like if I were to do something like that I would lose my job and there and they just tell them don't don't do that, peter don't do that.


Yeah.


So man thought that's so bad. And you're just looking like why What, what is the point of me even being here? Why did I have impressive what was the point?


Because you're not gonna do anything, but they're just gonna find another location and do whatever they want to do elsewhere.


It's so oh okay.


They're not we need kicked out. Like what? It doesn't it doesn't make sense. Why don't why isn't there some level of accountability on their end as well? Whereas, like there's a lot more repressions if I do that stuff, but I'm only like a year two years older than them.


You've seen the infamous video of Penn State. You're at the beginning of the semester on the freshman core exception. It was actually the first day I showed up because I was I was like two days wait because I'm on the R. T. C. And I was training in university. So I show up on keep this and that night that night midnight one am um my my window open and I sit here like loud child and stuff.


Mhm.


I look out the window Probably 300 freshmen.


No mass all set to all except stuff like playing, putting on its growth.


Yeah. I don't know.


Oh right. Oh we're going to uh just show up there with a bunch of the other is the police showed up like we caught people and nothing happened to him.


Yeah. Right, mm.


It was like the worst thing ever.


Yeah. Oh my God, it's atrocious.


Yeah this is this.


That is atrocious. I'm so sorry that you're dealing with that as it All right. Because I I know much has to suck.


Well yeah beginning rest continue.


Uh huh, wow. Are you waiting hard from the sophomore? Junior Senior? Mhm. Okay. So hopefully are you doing this again next year?


I will be doing it next year.


Oh you have this, You know what?


Mhm I'm only a one my army ROTC scholarship so I picked my tuition.


I have faith in you. Mhm.


If I'm not, I picked up from my housing and food so I'm doing like not having to pay anything so I'm going to make this prices.


Mhm. I understand. I understand. I get it. Um I couldn't have done that so kudos to you for your mental strength because those kids destroyed me.


Yeah I am partially regretting my decision but you know, and eventually stable coming into this.


Right. I was gonna say I'm sure your family is geeked about it though. Maybe we'll do you wait do you have a do you have a car?


Yes sir. I give my car on campus.


Okay. So I was gonna say maybe they'll like if your gas or something and just so thank you.


Mhm. I paid for everything so for my college and stuff.


Okay. Right, mm.


Uh huh I want, you know it.


Perfect. Financially independent.


Mhm.


Oh.


Um I noticed you're, you're like the rainbow. They don't know binding.


Oh this yes, I am.


Yeah. Are you LGBT?


I am the B.


Okay. Cool. I'm okay.


Okay.


Yeah. That's what I thought I had tied in with all that.


That is why I am financially independent. My parents are not thrilled.


I know. I under Okay. It's all coming together now. I see.


Yeah. They're not still the pound it, but it is what it is.


Yeah. Yeah.


I faced my own stuff.


Yeah. At least you know that's why you can do this for another year. You're really here just like this is nothing. This is nothing, wow.


Yeah, I'm not out to my parents fully yet. They just think that I'm just an ally right now.


Ah Yeah, partially out.


Okay. Oh, have Mhm.


Like every time I see them like my my friend Sarah, she's a good friend of mine. She's also an on here if you see and you're like the only two gay people and are as you see um and she's my friend And whenever I mentioned her, my parents like, oh, you should date her, date her now.


Yeah. Yeah. It's for my sister.


Yeah.


I have three sisters, all three of them though that I'm by and it's terrible because like I'm also so I'm like I'm bisexual, but I'm also Demi sexual.


You heard you heard of that?


Yes.


Okay. Because I'm like sometimes I tell people and it's like a 5050 shot of people knowing what I'm talking about.


Ah, yeah, I got you.


But so um I did I came out to my parents saying that I was Demi sexual like to a year or two years ago somewhere around there. They did not take it very well. So now like every time my mom brings up, she's like, oh my god, when you get married and then to die, your husband is going to be devoted to. Uh I mean when I say this will just look at each other and she'll just casually checks me be like your wife, gorgeous partner.


Yeah. You're a hero. You know, I'll let you see what you say. But in my head I'm thinking, yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. I'm hoping like I think my dad is starting to catch on a little bit and I also like said to get like three piercings this week. So next, when I go home for the holiday, I think my dad is gonna be like, are you, are you you know, are you just, I'm sure, I think my mom is just in denial about it.


Okay.


I think she kind of knows, but I think she's in like full denial.


Yeah. My, my mom is definitely in denial and my dad just doesn't really bring it up. Oh well God, there is a, my, my parents played the, the concern in the, well, you have the military, you know, things might have changed, but you know, so you should just not ever mention it and you should just get a wife and just, well, no.


Which I don't understand. I don't, I really don't get like what the issue is. I'm like, it's just people, you know, it could be worse. Like we can be into bestiality, we could be into drugs and they really want. There are worse things. Mm Oh yeah. No. Uh huh. Mhm. Mm. Mm Yeah.


Cool.


Does she not realize that there's like a whole L G B T Q plus community within the ability?


Oh, yes. Not like I've met so many like other like, uh huh This isn't, I do not have Tiktok.


Oh, it's the way of a deer tick tock. Okay. You need to get Tiktok because first of all, I'm not even about like the military life, but somehow I managed to get on like lesbian military Tiktok. I don't know. But I guarantee you there's a ba jillion, gay military. Just people on Tiktok, they love doing the coming home and surprising my partner with some right of outfit.


Yeah.


That's like their favorite trend.


Mhm. The guy's been on like Tinder and stuff and I can't tell you how many like, you know, like uniforms. I'm seeing like, like look at this like this is not the darkness is not like 1920 to calm down.


Uh huh.


Mom, Dad, there was so many of us.


You start taking screenshots and just sending it, your mom be like, it's not just me. It's not just me. Oh, so I have a question sober. It's our ROTC. Right?


Yes.


It's the way I was. I had residents last year for an ROTC and I think I said R. T. O. C.


Mhm.


For a whole semester And No one corrected me. Mhm. But so my question is, is everyone in ROTC because you said you were in training in New Jersey?


So is my wife. Yeah.


Do you guys all going to New Jersey?


Yeah. So, um, I kind of screwed myself with New Jersey.


I know. Yeah.


So what we do is we have this thing called advanced camp and that's between junior and senior years in the summer.


Um, I am just now a junior last summer I went to serve as we call it out for, which is like the short tended abbreviation of oppositional forces.


Oh yeah.


So I spent in health in Fort Dix New Jersey. It's awful. The whole state can suck it.


Mhm. Okay.


Um, and I slept out in the woods like the whole complex camping and stuff and eight camera.


Mhm. Mhm mm.


Yes. And are you supposed to get paid for it?


Yeah.


We were supposed to get, there's these things called Oml points.


Mm. Uh huh.


I don't even know what a normal stand for but if it helps rank you.


Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah.


Um So when you go to like applied, like if I want to be aviation and military intelligence um were all ranked in the L.


Mhm mm, mm hmm.


M. L. Points. So before you have the better you are. So I was supposed to get that this campaign and we show up on the first day and I was like a 3.5 hour drive for me.


I could. Uh huh.


Which is an awful, but like I get there it's like 7:00 in the mornings or just drove like you know in the dark and I show up and we'll all walks in there and they go, oh yeah because covid you're not being paid and you're not paying all no points and you can't leave now that you're here.


Uh huh. Uh huh. Thank you. Mhm. Mhm. I don't. Right. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh. Boy, they said because of Covid.


Yeah, they blamed it on which was bullshit because they were still paying the like the junior is going to be seniors who had to be there, but because we have volunteered to go, they said fuck you guys, it was so but I was raining like more than half the time and yeah baby, they fucked up apparently with its normally at Fort Dix, they're not for dicks, that's where we were, It was knocks down like Kentucky whether it is.


Oh my God. Okay.


Um But it wasn't, it was Fort Dix, they like move it.


Oh. Mhm. Very quick. Yeah.


Um And they had to do like smaller groups, So it was all 10 today and then I think lost it.


Ah Right. Yeah.


And one of the university model, they fucked up the housing situation as well.


Mhm. No, no, no.


So they have barracks for all of the juniors and seniors, they did not have barracks for being out for.


Yeah. Uh Uh huh.


So we had to like use our like ponchos and build like a giant like 10th network out in the woods by ourselves.


Oh yeah. Mm hmm. Right. Okay. That sounds like my nightmare.


It was like the worst thing that I've done and I was so mad the entire time they told us they go all the way up to it.


Yeah. I would be fuming because why didn't they tell you that you, Did they tell you? Like while you're already like there that you were getting paid?


Like like literally the day before that we all went up, they're like, oh yeah, you know, you're the gameplay, your gang L. M. L. You know, um you're gonna like you're going to accept this and you just literally, the first thing they say is yeah. Well it sucks to be you guys know hey no ml and now you can't leave you. Have you showed up?


That meant that they could have been, You mean obviously be like, hey, you're not gonna get paid with it if you still want to come.


Yeah. Because we are I don't think anybody who just showed up hope so they look like no natural.


You can of course not.


Just not say anything.