You're, yeah, I'm, I'm living with a roommate that I don't get along with because she is doing risky coronavirus. She went on a coronavirus vacation to south Carolina, stayed with her partner for a while. And then when work reopened, she came back to Connecticut and refused to, she didn't get tested. She refused to like stay in a separate place for any period of time to see if she developed symptoms like, no, she just cruised right back in. Um, and so like I'm living with her, but we're avoiding each other, you know? But at least I know that I have friends who live nearby that I have a partner who like we made, we made an agreement that if one of us gets sick, like we're gonna come and the caretakers, you know, despite the incredible labor, that's going to be involved in the incredible risk that's going to be involved with that. You know? And so yeah, even for me, you know, I, I am kind of like, mm, well I'm technically not living alone. I'm like, I'm definitely on my own right now, you know?


Yeah, I know, I'm so crazy.


And even then I can still envision how much harder it would be if I didn't have those relationships and those connections that I knew I could count on. You know, like if I, if I got really sick and my partner couldn't make it here to like deliver groceries. I know there are people that I could call our message who would like drop off a hot meal on the porch for me, you know, and like be tough would be sad, but like they would show up for me, you know? But yeah, it's really scary to think of the people who don't have those kind of supports.


It, but hopefully because we have been falling, the rule will be okay and I think we'll get a little bit of a break in the summer months because I don't do well in warmer weather.


Yeah. Yeah. Mm Right.


You know, that's what makes october scary.


Yeah. Oh yes.


I know that I will personally be taken cold and flu season a lot more seriously.


Yes. Well we didn't get any talking problems. I guess we were just, yes, we did it.


Oh.


Right. Cool.


Oh, okay.


Yeah, I think it's been enough time.


Yeah.


See oh, he went way over.


So I've got about $15.


Hey, we did agree. Yeah, that's a pretty, I gotta say that's pretty even as an hourly rate, I'll take that.


I think that's the money. Okay.


Or was nice chatting with you.


Mhm Yeah. You too going? I'm like, I'm glad that there are, it's nice to connect and see that there are other people out there who are taking it seriously. Like I guess like the silent minority in some ways, but like more power to you for one.


Yeah. And more metal heads across the unite.


Yeah, we're out here, we're doing it check out load.


Yes.


I think you'll like them and uh hopefully someday in the not too distant future the concerts will be back and you'll get to rock out again.


Yeah. Yes.


Dream. All right, my friend, nice to meet you immediately.


Nice to meet you and take care. Bye.


Uh huh.


Oh I finally have someone a I'm good, I tried having a chat last night and the person didn't show up and I thought is this part of the study like how we respond to this or something?


Sorry. Hi. How are you?


So it's good that we have conversation today.


I, yeah, that didn't happen to me, so I don't think that's it, but I don't know.


Yeah.


Maybe I'm the control. Mhm Yeah.


Yeah, maybe you're one of the R. S. Now. Um I am nick.


What's your name?


How about you Liz or live?


Live? Live with a V nice to meet you.


Okay, let's cool. Yeah. Nice to meet you.


Mhm. Where are you from?


Yeah, I am from Illinois like the Chicago suburbs, wow, how about you?


Okay. Well, I'm from Omaha in Nebraska.


Okay, cool. Are you a University of Nebraska fan?


Um, I mean, I went there. I don't care that much though.


Okay. Because I oh sorry, I I went to northwestern so I just asked it's it's like a big 10 kind of school and I remember there was this one football game we had in Illinois Whichever which one is in the Big 10.


Uh, no, you go ahead and on Lincoln Lincoln, Your good, Sorry, Sorry.


Oh, I didn't realize there are two. Yeah.


Okay.


But yeah, they, the Lincoln one, they travel really well.


Okay. Mhm, mm hmm. Yeah. Mhm Yeah.


Their fans. Uh huh.


Never been one of those people, but that's okay.


I yeah. Uh huh.


Sorry. I left. Do not have a good setup in here. So I'm finally mhm.


Where are those paintings in the back, wow.


Um, there, my, I got my girlfriend's grandma through them like a while ago, so yeah, I did not. I wish we have a couple.


Mhm. The thing uh the thing that's the thing that's interesting in my background old school phone that doesn't work because this is like an office room.


Yeah. Do you? I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Whoa.


It's uh just my parent's basement.


Oh, that's so funny.


But yeah my uh my grandma was in a nursing home last year and she had like one of the old school phones where you plug it in and then it just had like big buttons for the numbers.


I don't think I've seen a phone like that since like my grandparents old house. Right. Yeah.


I I feel like she just never owned a cell phone but she she was also like in her nineties.


Mhm. Mhm. I mean, you know, yeah.


What?


Whatever works for people I guess.


Yeah, it's kind of like I can see something starting to go buy me like I don't I don't have a tic tac and I never got into like VR type of stuff.


Yeah.


So I feel like maybe there'll just be more technology things that I just don't really get into.


Mhm mhm Yeah.


All right.


How old are you?


I am 27.


Mm Okay. I have a Tiktok, but I'm 23, so uh huh mhm.


Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. My, um, I have three younger sisters and I think they all have Tik TAKS and they're like 25, 24, So yeah.


Mm Yeah, it's not, I like it because you can just like spend literally hours on it. Like, and especially now like I'm, I just started a new job like a month and a half ago, so I've been like training from home and so I don't really have that much to do. So I'm just like on Tiktok all day and more runs out.


Yeah. I, when I was in college, my, one of my friends and I, we were really into vine and I feel like I would like that part of tick tock where it's kind of like the funny sketches or whatever.


Mhm mhm Yeah, yeah. Mhm.


I just, I don't think I would like the, all the dancing and stuff and I don't know, maybe like the lip sinking and mhm Okay.


Mhm Yeah, it kind of like, I don't know how much you care. So if this is boring, like tell me and I'll stop, but it kind of like learns what you like. And so if you like a bunch of like funny videos will do more of that. Like I always like, I like a lot of like cat videos, so cat videos show up a lot and then like the more like dancing ones I never really like. So those don't show up quite as much, so it kind of adjust to what you like. So that's nice.


Yeah, That's like youtube. A lot of my entertainment comes from youtube, but I figured out there's this extension for google chrome that just tides like basically every suggested video.


But yeah, like before I had that, it was always like, oh, let me just go on and then four hours later I'm still looking at videos.


Well, waiting what?


So, but what's your, what's your new job?


Mhm.


Is that like your first job after college or?


Um Yeah, I've been working for like my last job I've had for four years, so um this one it's really hard to explain. So it's in like the mental health field though and it's um like it's kind of like a social worker, but not quite, but it's just helping families, I work for a nonprofit and it's like a voluntary program. And like if their kids are having issues, we kind of like help them that they have to be like diagnosed with a mental illness active.


Okay. So are you, are you doing like the data to figure out the diagnosis? Are you doing like home visits or?


Yeah, so it's really hard to explain and I'm I'm too new I think to be good at explaining it. But so like there's this process called wrap around that we use. And so it's kind of like the whole like idea of it is like the family should be like really involved and they know the kid the best. And so like they should be more involved in professional people Because like, you know, if it's like a 16 year old, your mom has been with you since you were a baby versus like a therapist who's known you for like a couple of months.


So it's like, you work with the family and you help them identify like people who are supports to them and then you're, it's kind of like being a facilitator and you help them like create like a plan and like figure out and just kind of help them be accountable and help the kid have like some advocacy to so that they have ownership and it's just more successful that way as opposed to a bunch of old people telling them what to do.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, that's cool.


So what happens when you need a new family and you think the parents are just, I don't know, like they're they're just not doing good parenting, but you can't, it's hard to convince them to be like, oh, actually, your your child would be better with this thing because I, I come from, so the last couple of years I was kind of a long term.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


So what kind of a pair of professional in a elementary school special needs classroom?


Mhm. Mhm. Oh, that's cool.


And sometimes sometimes parents would do things that the two special needs teachers in there would just like, not really like, but it was hard to kind of convince them of like, oh actually you should be doing this other thing.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, I think it like, mhm. Like, I think it depends if it's something like you have an example, I'm sorry.


Yeah.


Um I don't know because there were there was uh let me try to thank.


Mhm. Mhm, mm. All right. Mhm.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


I can't think of one besides, there was this one case where it was like seeing kind of like child abuse and we tried to push it a little bit, but it seems like with child abuse like you you really, as a parent, you really have to mess up before they start doing any sort of charges or anything like that, but I guess it would be like, I guess one example would be okay, so some of the students, they were doing physical therapy because they just, they just didn't do well with like going up or down stairs or something like that.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Right. Mom. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So one hypothetical would be the teacher saying, Hey, uh parents of this child, like make sure you're practicing going up and downstairs with the child.


Okay. Mhm.


And then maybe they just blow that off and just don't do it or something like that.


Yeah. So I think, and again, I'm like still pretty new.


Mm Yeah.


So um if it's like something where we're like, oh, that's kind of maybe abuse like we call cbs, but if it's something more like that, I think we would like talk with like the kid and the parents and um at least is what I would do but try and figure out like why I'd be like hey like this might be a good idea and if they're not doing it kind of like just really legit like talking through like okay like why aren't you doing it like you think it's a good idea but like something is preventing you from doing it or do you think it's stupid?


And if you think it's stupid why? Because you know maybe it's something where we're like well you should be doing it at home but they're like you know maybe they don't have stairs at home or maybe they don't have like their kids won't listen to them and kind of helping like figuring out why they're not doing it and then helping them find solutions or like some alternatives or something like that like because to me I mean like there's not like a wrong way to parent or a right way to parent, but maybe if there's something that will be helpful, then you have to help the parent figure out like why it's not happening or what's a better way to get around it, you know what I mean?


Mhm, mm. Mhm.


So. Mhm.


That's cool. I um just because this is more anonymous, but I I've been seeing, Well I started with one psychiatrist when I was 14 and I think like two years ago I'm just with a different one.


Okay. Mhm. Mhm.


But I just because I've needed medication for mental health issues, so that is cool, like the whole doing it as a team like with the family, because I know early on when I was in high school, I would sometimes go with like my mom or my dad or something like that.


Yeah, mm hmm. Would be. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


But then I kind of went by myself, but it it is nice like everyone's on the same page because I remember a lot of times and this probably is better for like maybe therapist what they're trying to do, like different techniques and you've got to practice at home as opposed to taking some medicine.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.


But it would have been nice because sometimes I feel like I would come home from it and I would just maybe forget like parts of what the psychiatrist said and I'm like, oh, I don't know now, my like parents might not know exactly everything or whatever.


Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, man, I know, we really try to have, like people are seeing therapists, we always try to have the therapist involved because it is like a really important role to play in someone's life, you know?


So yeah, yeah, so I finished student teaching mid March, I was actually, I'm in a master's program to become a high school science teacher and My grad school is on trimester, so the student teaching would have ended a week later, March 20, but then here in Illinois, the school's got cancelled after March 13, so I kind of just had a free week and I was applying to A bunch of high school districts like 15 of them starting late February throughout March and then a little bit in May and unfortunately I didn't get accepted anywhere ahead a couple of interviews and at first I was just kind of, I don't know, sad or anxious because I thought that it was kind of a failure.


So I don't know. So you are are you a teacher now or subsequent? Mhm. Mhm. How awkward? Mhm, wow. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Well. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm, mm.


But then I realized, oh there are a lot of things I can do with this time to make myself better because I went into it and I should have done these things a long time ago but I went into it and I was only approved or certified to teach Biology because I was I was student teaching in Biology.


What? Mhm. Mhm.


I realized though with science as opposed to something like high school english where you just need the high school english endorsement that you can teach any sort of english class with science Biology is like only a little some of the jobs available.


Mhm. Uh huh.


There's also like Chemistry and physics.


Oh yeah.


So I'm working on, I'm finishing up a physics class, I'm taking kind of like a Proctor it online, final in a couple of days or like Wednesday next week and then I'm going to take a lab and a physics class after that, that's also online and finish that up.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm.


And then whenever the local community college opens up again and when I'm done with the physics stuff, I can take the endorsement tests for chemistry and physics to get endorsed in that.


Yeah.


And I think just having the three endorsements as opposed to the one, especially since Biology is so popular and it seems more competitive than the other ones would really help me because I I learned that through the two interviews, the two interviews, one was from my home town school districts.


Five. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So it was the first interview I also had. So I was a little nervous. Like are they only doing this because This is my hometown.


Yeah. Just, yeah.


And also because that department chair, he went to northwestern like 20 years ago. So I'm like, hopefully I get more interviews and but the script, the description sometimes it's just like general science teacher.


Yeah. Mhm.


And I got into the interview and he said this is for physics.


Mhm.


So at that point, I know that I'm at a disadvantage if anyone has student teaching in physics or if they have a physics endorsement, I'm at probably at a huge disadvantage.


Oh yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


And I felt like I really had to do really well to kind of outpace that.


Mhm, mm hmm.


And then Like two weeks later I had an interview again, General Science went down the same path because both of them, I had two interviews for each of them.


And I learned in the second interview because the first interview was just I was answering interview questions and I was submitting videos through email.


So it's kind of like prerecorded stuff. The second one was with the department chair and other teachers and the department chair said this is for chemistry And they both said that later on like next year there will be biology openings or like 2021, and I didn't get accepted there and then I didn't haven't heard from anyone else.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, mm hmm.


So I figured it's unlikely I'll be teaching in the fall. But at least because grad school was expensive, I had moved back to my parents last summer and that helps in terms of it's not like I'm just broke from paying for these grad school classes because I am just keeping like a spreadsheet of just what I owe my parents because they pay for it.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


And then I just over the money in the future.


So it's nice, it's nice having this time also, I would have been substitute teaching again in the spring just throughout the preschool to middle school district.


What? What? Mhm, mm. Yeah.


But I think that's, I guess that's like the unfortunate part of this virus is that I miss out on like 10 weeks of pay and then I couldn't really get unemployment claim figured out, like there's kind of an error there.


Mhm. Yeah.


But I like that I have this time to work on these classes and improve my application for maybe applying for like january if people go on maternity or paternity leave or whatever, stuff like that, so yeah, I'm optimistic.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. That's awesome. That's great. You're like making good use of the time, you know, like I think a lot of people who maybe aren't like aren't really, I'm really lucky that I can be working now, but I think a lot of people are not so lucky and then they also are just kind of not doing a whole lot, which I probably would do.


Yeah. Yeah.


Like I'm not ragging on him or anything, but it's really awesome that you're not.


Mhm. Oh.


So did you pick biology because you like it? The pest or was it just always?


Mhm. Um so back in college I was pre med and that was kind of because my parents were doctors and I saw their happiness, it was kind of ingrained. And also I had a lot of surgeries as a child, like 150 surgeries, basically I would these like kind of blood lesions would come around my like lower lip and then sometimes inside, so I was just like surrounded by medicine a lot and I thought it was kind of like kind of like my path or whatever, it would have been kind of hard to get off that path.


Mm. Yeah. Important.


And even my parents, they were like, hey, you should try looking into engineering because you're, I was always good at math and that didn't work out.


Yeah.


I applied to med schools after college and work out and then I realized with lack of sleep, that would have happened if I got into med school and then residency, that might not be best in terms of my mental health because lack of sleep really hurts me.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


So I thought, okay, what can I do? That might be a little bit less stressful that I'll still really like. And late senior of college, I was tutoring other college students in physics and I really enjoyed that and then I did a lot of tutoring after college and I like those.


Yeah. Mhm.


And then I I'm finishing on my third year of substitute teaching. The first two years were with the special needs classroom and this past fall I was kind of bouncing around because I couldn't commit, but I overall I just really liked all those teaching things.


So I thought, okay, I think teaching makes sense.


Mhm.


Plus with high school I'm really into chess and tennis and teaching those playing those.


Mhm Yeah.


So I think becoming a coach for those eventually is also really great. So that's kind of why.


Dude, I would be so cool.


Thanks. Yeah.


Oh my gosh. Good luck though.


Oh yeah, yeah.


High schoolers Suckley like I talked in high school so like yeah.


Mhm I uh, speaking of Tiktok in high school, there was one class, it was like a special needs class that I student taught for and they would always, they were pretty wild and I, I didn't have like good skills to try to control them, but I read like a book or two after and like, oh, I could have done this, this and this, but they were, they were really into Tiktok and they were doing like the doja cat dance and stuff and like, I don't know, like a bunch of like tic tac things, so it's kind of funny and I just told them like, oh yeah, I used to be on vine and I think some of them might have been on vine.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm uh Yeah.


I don't know. So yeah.


Yeah. Yeah, I know, I never like was ever online, but then like after it got shut down, I would watch like find compilations on Youtube so like I got the main point, you know?


Yeah. Yes. I said they're still around in terms of on Youtube.


Actually the one friend who I talked about who was in divine couple of days ago. He, we have a group text among us and he's like, yeah, I signed up for vine or I signed up for tick tock and, but he's like, he's really funny.


Mhm mm Yes.


Like when I was on Snapchat, he was really good in terms of like just kind of like little jokes and then he also played the UKulele. So I'm like, oh dude, you're going to kill it on Tiktok if you post on it, which he might.


Oh yeah. Football.


But I think he was saying kind of what I was saying that he would like the skits and stuff there but not the dances. So maybe if I get really bored.


Yeah, you should. I think like, I feel like everyone always goes through the same progression. Like I know when I got it and then everyone that I've got started on it, like it's always like you like download it ironically kind of and you're like, oh whatever.


Yeah, yeah.


And then you're like, oh there's like kind of funny and then like a couple months later you're like, oh my God, I can't stop. Like and you just send him home to everybody. Like it's a it's a trap, honestly.


Yeah.


Mhm.


I would be very trapped. Also if some of my favorite designers went to there and some of them probably might be. So, it be I think it's something maybe maybe when I'm done with these upcoming physics classes and I have more time maybe.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


So we'll see.


Did you ever like, I don't know how to Sarah last name. It's like Sarah shower or she doesn't want to pack.


It's really funny. Yeah. D H A U E R Tiktok.


Okay. Yeah.


She didn't.


A lot of lot of the famous finders went to instagram. So I tried to ask my sister's like, did they also branch out to tick tock or do they just stay on instagram? And I wasn't sure.


She wasn't sure.


I don't know.


But yeah.


But I know she's on that's the only one that I know of. Mhm Yeah, I know.


All right. Mhm. Mhm.


What do you got going on for your weekend? Are you studying please?


Every, well, yeah, like during the day I Even when I don't have, so what happened with this classes I signed up for and I started doing it back last June and I had 12 months to do it and I just got busy with like student teaching and stuff.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm Okay.


And then I usually I took the for the midterm at the local community college.


Oh.


So then I was kind of waiting until may arrive to see okay, is the college gonna be open? But they're not gonna be open till june.


Mhm.


So luckily the professor like a couple of weeks ago said, call this number in case you can't get a proctor exam, so I'm just going to do it on its called adobe, connect some sort of, they can like, I think they're going to record me on webcam and then maybe record my screen or something so that I'm not cheating.


Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


But yeah, other than that, every saturday night, my friends and I, I'm closer with my high school friends and my college friends, my college friend group kind of died out because they all moved out east, but a lot of my high school friends stayed around here.


Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


So every saturday night we get on either like a zoom or a Microsoft teams or a google hangout.


Yeah.


And we played poker because in high school and a little bit in college we played poker like every weekend. So just texas hold'em. It's been really fun. We've found a couple of websites that worked pretty well, but they've received a lot more traffic during the pandemic, so sometimes it's slow, but they've been pretty good lately, so it's nice.


Mm hmm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


And then we just all have like a bunch of Venmo money stockpiles. So it almost feels just like fake money, just like giving it to someone one week and then they give it back the next week kind of thing.


Mhm, mm.


So we do that every saturday night tonight.


Mhm. Mhm.


My mom wants to watch a movie, just, I think I like on netflix, which we sometimes do.


And then Mother's Days on sunday we were going to do a picnic like at a forest preserve for dinner, but it looks like it's gonna be cold.


Yeah, mm hmm.


So my mom wants to play this one board game that we play settlers of Catan sometimes.


Well, mhm. Uh that's all I know.


So we're gonna play that. But I don't know what else we're going to do. But how about you? Uh huh.


Um yeah, I don't know.


Yeah, it'll be good.


I know. Tomorrow I'm going to go see my mom and we're just going to hang out for Mother's Day.


Mm.


So um mhm. I mean that's really, I don't know what we're gonna do, honestly.


Mhm.


We'll probably end up just playing some games, but we'll do that and then on sunday I probably won't really end up doing much. I'll probably day drink honestly, but no actual plans for the majority of the week, but and mhm Yeah, we're doing like calling and like zoom or whatever kind of whatever they prefer, but we're not going to people's houses just because like our office is closed.


Yeah. Yeah. So are you for your job, are you just doing like video visits then with the family or how does that work? And Yeah.


So like, I haven't even been to the office yet, like since I started, so since we're not even at the office, we're not going to go to other people's houses because, you know, I want to be safe and whatnot.


Yeah.


So um but yeah, I don't know because we asked, in theory, we're supposed to go back to the office like june but they said that they don't know if we'll go to people's houses when that happens because there's still like, I don't know how Illinois has been like in Nebraska, there's still like an increase of cases and our governor just like opened everything back up basically, even though the cases are still increasing because that makes so much sense.


Um you know, so we're like, now that everything's open, people are going to be going and going out and spreading all their dreams everywhere.


Yeah. Yeah.


So now I really don't want to go and like, so I don't know what we're gonna do, but for the meantime, yeah, we're not going to see anyone.


Yeah. Mhm.


So it's kind of making things a little more difficult. People are answering their phones as much and missing meetings and not letting us know and it's kind of annoying, but mhm.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Our our governor, Well, he's it's a very Democratic state, so like liberal.


Mhm. Is it?


So we're very it's like right now More stuff might open June one, but he has this whole like five stage plan of like, okay, we have to we're not increasing it well, we have kind of like the same number of cases each day.


Mhm. Mhm. Right, mm hmm.


So we're just hoping some point this month that they will start to decrease. But it's this whole thing like if you want to get to the next stage you have to like, I don't know. It's like you either test more people or you Trace where people are.


And also I think he wants like some sort of decrease over, I don't know, like a 14 or 28 day period.


So Right now we're on stage two which is there is some limited stuff like things like gardening places got opened and then golf got open with limitations and a couple other things like regular surgeries that weren't essential but they can do them because the hospitals are at a better capacity and then the next stage would be like, I think just more stores and like haircut places.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So We'll see if that happens in June one.


But I'm not sure just because I think, I think his goal now is like he wants to try to get, he wants to move it down to like just not that many people each day, which I don't know when that's going to be.


Mhm. Uh huh.


And I have heard that it might take like a couple of years for a vaccine, so not sure.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm.


Um Yeah.


Yeah. That's cool though.


Yeah.


What's, that's really good that your governor is doing that because like we didn't even Nebraska so stupid. Like I hate it, but whatever, but like we didn't even close everything down.


Mhm. Mhm.


Like we never actually had like a stay in place shelter or whatever it's called.


Mhm.


Um So he had it like most things were closed down, but like you could still go like to home depot or Target or like you could still go to like most stores, like they close like restaurants and bars and then, okay, I think like last week he opened up restaurants to 50 capacity, like 50% capacity and like hair salons and they're opening bars back up again.


And like, I don't think things were even really shut down that long and nothing's nothing's gotten any better and he's opening everything back up. And I'm like, there's, but I also think he has, like, someone said that he has like money invested in.


Like we have like a big outlet mall that he has money in and stuff like that. So I think he's just opening it so he can make money.


No, I love that.


That's unfortunate.


He's an idiot.


Yeah. I'm, I'm especially living with my parents. Like I, even when things open up, it's like I'm going to be very cautious and my friends and I right now we have, we do fantasy football for the NFL first off, we don't even know if NFL is going to work out this season.


Mhm, mm hmm. Mhm. Mhm.


And also every year for like around Labor Day or sometimes before that we go on a trip somewhere in the US.


It started like a couple of years ago, so to draft our teams.


No problem.


So we're just nervous because we're planning on going, going to New Jersey, which is very that new york are like number one and two.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah.


So it's looking like like we already paid for the Airbnb, which we can't get a refund on and the flight.


Mhm. You want think they give more influence?


So Airbnb, their policy I saw is that It's like you can get a refund if the air baby was before June one.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm.


But like after that you just can't so it's kind of kind of stinks.


Oh, it's like, Mhm, mm hmm.


So yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure like if I wanted to go to that, which would be like airplane and then taking a train, it'd probably be something where it has to be like, just not that many cases each day kind of thing.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


So I don't know.


Yeah.


We'll see.


I think, I hope that works out like that would suck dang.


Mhm Yeah. But Yeah, we'll see. It might be a situation where some of the group of 10 of us go and some don't.


No.


So we'll see.


Mhm.


But yeah, I don't, I don't agree with opening things up quickly in Nebraska because what was the point of closing things down in the beginning anyways, then you kind of kind of like erases all the progress that limiting stuff would have made.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


And Nebraska is just kind of like a dumb state in general. Like it's, you know, we're always like, I think the last ones to do anything mildly smart or progressive or anything.


Uh huh. Yeah.


So I mean it tracked, but it still sucks, right.


Mhm Yeah.


Mhm. Cap.


All right. We've, we've been at the 25 minutes. So anything else you want to say?


That's right. Yeah. I don't think so. It was nice to talk to you.


Yeah, it's nice meeting you live like liv Tyler, I think that's the only live I know there's also, there's also a live, I think it's like a nightclub or something.


Yeah. Yeah. I don't need to do. Mm.


Might be like in Miami or Vegas or something.


That's what many days Lives lounge in Omaha, but not mine.


That's cool. You can just tell people that they named it after.


Not hurt.


It's like, yeah, my grandpa named it after me or something, her grandma.


Yeah.


Uh huh.


Well, yeah, it was very nice to meet you and talk to you.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice meeting you.


Yeah. You have a good evening and weekend.


Yeah. Thanks, you, too.


All right.


I.


Bye.


Okay. Mm. Yeah. Right. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Because yeah. Okay. Let's get a couple. Mm hmm. Right. Mhm. Yeah. I don't know. Really? Still here.


All right, yeah, you hear me?


Mhm. Uh huh. Yeah. Who are you? Yeah.


Okay, I'm sorry, what's your name?


Mhm. But hi, my name is minute. Okay. The night you see where your son?


Okay, my name is mine, a nice to meet you. Oh, I'm from pennsylvania, Oh, how about you?


Oh come from, boston.


Oh, nice, yeah, I'm in Pittsburgh, so mhm it's going okay, I woke up with a sore throat, so I'm kind of freaked out, but but I feel fine otherwise, so I think I'm just like psyching myself out because I can be kind of a hypochondriac.


Cool. My pleasure to go is. Oh yeah.


Act what?


Have you, have you been like going out?


Oh, not really, I've been to a restaurant like a couple of times, but I haven't gone in a while and haven't been really experienced with that many people besides like people that I see all the time, so fine, I'm just gonna go before, so paranoid, but Right, yeah, I think it's so easy to get like freaked out about everything.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I thought not to be right now, I feel mhm.


How are you doing?


Um Pretty good. I've been away for so long.


I mean, mm Oh, okay, mhm Yeah, I don't, I feel like that too, I normally let's sleep into like 10 or so now, like eight, it's really bizarre.


I don't know why I like wake up so early now since like quarantining and like I'm not a morning person and like when I was working I was never woke up early so it's like weird to me that I have nothing to do and I love that like six. Mhm. Yeah, I would like literally, I mean I have nothing to do with, I was, we tried so hard to find things to like busy night time up but not very successful.


Okay. Yeah. Oh, mm. Are you in college or We're right, come on.


Um I got a few years ago, so I was working, I lived in California and then I got laid off so I came home, I didn't want to stay in California, it's okay.


Yeah. Yeah.


It's kind of nice to be home and I see with my family for a bit because I lived at home since I graduated.


Mhm. Yeah. That is nice.


Mhm.


Yeah, I'm a junior at pit right now. So I came home in like april because my roommate was potentially exposed. So I came home nice.


And have Mhm.


So it's part to environment.


House on all my classes.


Yeah, they were interesting. Um It kind of made things easier. Her like tests and stuff because I don't know, it was kind of nice but it was just weird to have everything stops so quickly, which I'm sure you felt the exact same thing.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


But yeah, I think it's almost worse now because we don't know what's really going on for the fall.


Yeah.


Mhm. They are not really giving us answers like we're all going back to campus, but I don't know like how, how it, how it's gonna work. Like they're talking about things like hybrid classes and I feel like that's going to be harder than like all online are just completely in person so it'll be interest um there a science and psychology.


Yeah. Yeah. All right. Mhm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. What do you study? Oh cool.


What was your injury?


Yeah, I said a finance and hospitality.


Okay.


Yeah, I was being financed out of the hotel a little bit of salt, but hotels are not going to bounce back anytime soon, so I'm thinking like I need to refocus honestly I'm okay with that.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


I think like right now certainly a hard time finding a job because there's like the recent grads, but I'm now looking and then like people who got laid out for looking like a big candidate for, I think seeing them a lot more competitive.


Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, mm. Mhm. Yeah.


Yeah, that's okay.


Yeah. Yeah. That's really scary. I'm sorry you got laid off. Yeah.


I feel like everything happens for a reason. So it's like 40.


Yeah, that's what I try to tell myself. It's so freaky. Have you been going out mostly staying home?


Mhm. I've been mostly staying home. Like I have hung out with some friends who are also like quarantining and not really doing anything.


Yeah. Yeah.


So like we're going to hang out with my household at their house and he, so I don't get very close and like we usually try to stay outside, but otherwise like I, but I don't really like um here they started opening up like stopping and um they have outdoor dining and um I don't know what else has opened up and I don't really want anywhere.


Well yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. What people? Mhm.


Like is it worth it?


Really?


Yeah. Yeah the couple of times I did go out like my friend got engaged so she had like a luncheon.


Yeah. Mm.


Yeah so that it was like reserved group and I knew who everyone was and stuff but I just felt so like not guilty but like kind of guilty I guess it was just like not worth going out, I don't think I'm glad I want a friend, but yeah, in general, I don't think it's worth going, but yeah.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Cool. Uh huh. Okay. Yeah. It's crazy.


Yeah.


I'm sure it's fully reopened like it resumed all normalized.


Thanks. Yeah. Really?


No, no.


Like they were the least um like shut down to begin with slightly for me.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yes. Yeah.


Um but they're reopening was still fast and they're fully reopened now. There's nothing that you can't do and you're not required to learn that in public 15 years.


Yeah. Very well, mm.


Yeah. So I don't know like what the situation there is.


No.


Like if they have a lot of cases or not but I can't imagine how they put in with the way they're handling things.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But at the same time I'm like if they had such a huge fight like they would have done something like that would have modified in some way.


Yeah. Yeah.


But third yeah.


They're just doing their things florida part of nuts.


Oh wow, it's freaky. I haven't heard about them but you know, I've heard about like texas and California ST yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah florida was like the biggest 12 Yeah, like such a western p a thing to go to like Ocean City or Myrtle Beach or something.


Those people are crazy. Right?


I'm like, is it worth it like for that if I'm going on vacation I want to go somewhere nice.


Yeah.


Well it's also, I mean, I feel like, yeah, you can go to the beach and like you can like a relatively far from people that you're not like with, but it's like, I don't know, it's a very different kind.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


It's kind of apocalyptic that's going to public place, but when you're faced with some people going off, like it's like, it's weird, like, I don't know if I don't want to, but I mean, I guess people are getting very like Sir Casey, which I get, but it's like, it's not like we're staying home just for fun, like for no reason.


Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh huh.


Like there's a purpose.


Yeah, we were talking to our neighbours yesterday and she was like we rented a condo and I know we can stay like pretty isolated and they're like, well we're scared to like lose our money if we don't go.


Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah.


So there's like financial factors and stuff like that too.


Mhm.


But I'm like and well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't gonna like start an argument with her because we're not, it's not, you know, not that yeah, that's how I feel with a lot of controversial opinions.


I feel like people are basically leaning like refunds on stuff, so right now. Yeah, Not worth it. Okay.


I'm like, I'm not even gonna get started because I don't think we're going to get any more productive.


But yeah, it's been very interesting times for sure.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Well, as you mentioned, your friend got engaged, I feel like so many people have gotten engaged before you pain and I'm like, Mhm.


No. No. Oh mm.


Talk to you guys for this proving that you guys can make it like that you guys are like, I don't wanna go for it because I feel like so many people have broken out.


Yeah. Yeah.


Like it's a field cut for relationships right now.


Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And like um our other friend was we were all joking about like quarantine babies and stuff when people came in whatever and we like we try to go like walk every day because we're not like near anyone in the park and I think it's fine and I need to do some kind of exercise, I'm going crazy.


Mhm. Yeah.


And anyway, she just told us that she was pregnant yesterday, which was we because Mhm.


Yeah.


We were not expecting that and she just like casually dropped that baby breakup. Thank you.


Stop breaking off. And you know the lady?


No, they're not breaking up. I just meant like people in general.


So like both things are happening. Yeah.


Oh yeah.


Yeah. It's crazy. Like my friend was telling me that he moved into his girlfriend like three months ago and I'm like, but a really bad time when you learn with someone because you literally move in and then you're spending every waking moment with them.


There's open for teachers because you've got the first group of people who got laid off or like staying home was like a lot of faith time.


Yeah. Oh yeah.


If you guys really like each other, you will be good if you don't, you don't know like now you'll find out.


Oh what? Well? Oh yeah, that is very stressful.


Mhm.


Are you in a relationship with anyone?


No.


Are you?


Yeah, I have a boyfriend we've been dating like almost two years now, but we obviously don't get together, so I've seen him like a couple of times because his parents are older and a little more high risk and we're trying to be really cautious about that, but we've been distance.


Hello? Oh yeah. Mhm.


Like the whole not just we're like an hour away, so I'm kind of used to not see him too much.


Oh. Mhm.


It would be really interesting if we just like we did the other one getting Yeah.


Yeah. I don't know like, I mean I really fast way to find out if it's the right relationship or not like I don't know if I want to do it.


Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah with like leases and rent and I don't know, I couldn't do that stresses me out but Yeah.


Mm Yeah. I have a lot of my friends are like really like feeling like allow I really need a boyfriend now.


Oh. Oh yeah.


They're like going so hard on like the dating app and I'm like this is like a really weird time to do that because it's like everyone was so socially isolated that like everyone so needy.


Oh right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


I'm like hi this system of goodbye. Like it's a really weird time to look for a relationship but it's like he's ever gonna have more three times a day.


What? Yeah, that's true.


Really never flagged. I don't know if people are in the right frame of mind to be but Okay.


Yeah. We all some non conventional dates like.


Yeah my friends are just like going on days but it's like meeting up like hanging out of parts and I'm like that's the right place work for you and you do it.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But I don't know how many like how many times I'd be cool like meeting up with a stranger at apart during the pan down there.


Yeah. Yeah you do if that's what you want one.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I also just like every time I've gone out like that go look okay, drives with my sister or something and like it really sucks not being able to find restrooms anywhere.


Yeah. Yes, I've encountered that too.


Yes, I can't I can't do it. I don't know why anyone wants to be out for an extended period of time because like literally if you have to go to the bathroom, like probably not going to find one.


Yeah like I was at the park and I just wanted to refill my water bottle and all the like water fountains where it closed off and stuff like to drink, it was just awful.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh It's annoying but I mean yeah like a I don't get so like like restaurants that are open like doing take out like so when you use the restaurant because I don't know and I feel like it even if like someone like not hygienic or like maybe it's infected and using the restroom as long as you're not like girls making sure you don't touch anything like you'll be okay.


Mhm mm. Forget it, mm Good. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


I don't but I get also like that they go out one man power.


Yeah.


It has like clean like I think that's the pain that happens like every hour if they're open that's like a lot more manny for cleaning will disclose it.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's stressful.


The one thing that really like I've tried really hard to put it all into perspective and be like my life is fine.


Mhm, mm.


I can adapt and you know, let things get canceled and stuff, but stuff like the dentist, the guy knee, you know, like stuff.


Mhm. Mhm.


I'm like, why can't I just go get my teeth? Like I know they're only doing like emergency visits and stuff, but just like stressful because now all of that stuff is so behind and, but if you're a regular okay.


Yeah, I think, I think it was a dentist here open. I don't know if vary by state, but my mom had a dentist appointment like a couple days ago for a regular screening.


Mm. Yeah, they canceled.


I was like early june and they called and canceled me. But right.


And you know it sounds like it's gonna take forever to get it rescheduled like because everyone's in your dream scheduling right?


Yeah. And yeah, exactly. And like I don't know about your dentist, but mine, you have to schedule it like six months in advance. So you never know if that day anyway.


Mhm.


So that kind of stuff I don't really understand. Like I understand minimizing risk and stuff, but I feel like those kinds of things should be allowed because so many people not getting seen, like even if you think about like mammograms and stuff like that, you could be missing those check ups that people need to like get screened for.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


I don't know.


And like epidemic like they can do like a very thorough cleaning of the room during in between education and like the dead, this can be like well equipped with PPE and like should be fun.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


You know like it's because they're sanitizing anyways.


Yeah. Yeah. Yes.


It's not like this is like a lot of this isn't gonna be additional cleaning like defeat more thoroughly and like always so are handled himself like okay that's new.


Right. Uh huh.


But like the cleaning of the tool, the tool should have been sanitized the same way that they would be now because top yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. And like they always want to ask anyway. I don't know. So that stuff like that kind of frustrates me because I don't want people to get sick and not know it because they're missing those kinds of things and then it just like back at the hospital and stuff even more. But yeah. So so yeah.


I know it's the same thing with weddings like all the people who at the cancel their weddings.


like I know some people are just like forget it or like I'll just like do my doom wedding or whatever. But like all the people who are wanting to read book their weddings, these venues are going to be still overwhelmed. There was not going to be the time for people who are planning 2021 weddings and the people who are spending 2020 weddings plus whoever like this wasn't planning their wedding, it like all fit them in next year.


Like whenever things start to open again because like that's also very destructive and it's like not going to be like it, it's too much people that are going to have a need now that they're not going to be able to meet.


Yeah. Yeah.


They're not able to make the lawyers Yeah.


Because I know some people are trying to reschedule like for the fall and now we're like, well the fall it's not gonna work. So who knows when it's going to be to actually reschedule your stuff because I don't know.


Mhm Yeah.


And it's even more stressful because you think about like if we could get like a vaccine or treatment or better testing, there's so many like skeptics and conspiracy theorists are like they're tracking us there, injecting us with stuff. Like it's those kinds of people that aren't going to let us go back to normal earlier than we should be. So it really freaks me out.


Yeah. I really wonder if we're close to getting a vaccine and honestly, and then usually that can take years to develop.


No.


But I don't know what the whole world is working on this right now because I was like, I mean developing it but then they have to do with all the test indian child particularly with some more time since ending part.


Yeah. I feel like by next year they probably might have one, but I have no idea. Okay. Yeah. Mm. Yeah.


But I don't even think about that now.


Yes.


But I don't have any like I think that they were like in like stage three of one vaccine behind them. Don't you never hear about it on the news or I don't really talk about it. But you just randomly see an article.


Yeah.


Well like I talked to a guy like friends or nurses or like pharmacists and like they're more important, you know? So like tell me stuff and I'm like, oh okay. Yeah.


Yeah. It's hard to know because like I do research to not for vaccines but just like the research process.


Mhm.


It takes so long to get approval to work with people and I'm hoping they can expedite that kind of like bureaucracy stuff.


Getting everything but you're right.


Like it just takes long because you don't know how people are going to react. You just kinda have to let it like tickets, cores, wow, Everyone what?


Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And the crazy. Okay. Time.


Yeah. Uh huh.


Have you like done these like survey things before? Okay.


Um I started doing prolific probably in like March just for like an extra thing to do because my lab uses it like well do surveys on here. So I was like, wait, I should try to get extra money too.


Mm.


So I've done like the better piece.


Mhm Oh well yeah.


I've done this survey before too. Like I've talked to one other person. Um Yeah, so that was interesting like the first time, so I had no idea what to expect and then I fine like I really want is awkward, but the other, it was like kind of painting whatever.


Yeah. No, I feel like why would you sign up for this if you're like not like, I mean I think like right now like honestly at my social skills are like not what they used to be because I don't talk to people anymore, but like literally speaking if you're like socially, like why would you send up?


Yeah, I know it's like I'm kind of weird around strangers, but I feel like if anyone can just like, like most people should just be able to hold a conversation for 20 minutes.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Especially right now.


Yes.


It's like you just like you just talk about quarantine and fly.


Right. Sure. Yeah.


It's just everyone, you know like maybe in normal circumstances, like you don't know what you can relate to bring some stranger on like everyone's going through this.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


So which is already at the point of this, I feel disappointed this experiment.


Yeah.


I kind of feel like how many people are going to use quarantine is like their thoughts put up a topic of conversation.


Mhm Yeah, it's just so easy to find like, like you said, just you can relate to and everyone's going through it.


Mhm Yeah.


Have you gone to any protests or anything like that?


No. Have you?


I went to one because it was really local, like it's like five minutes from my house and they were really emphasizing how it was going to be useful and I trusted the people that were leading it so and that was fine.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah.


It was completely like peaceful and safe and I stayed away from everyone and we had masks on and all that, so that was nice.


Was really empowering. But I haven't gone to any like big ones in the city or anything.


Mhm. I like really?


Oh no.


I can't okay, I can't believe that like with what's going on and like how much people are talking about it, that like it almost seems like police misbehaviour is like happening more and I just don't get it because I feel like it, if this is I feel public and it's such a look at the top of conversations on the forefront as much as it is, like it's like they'd be on their best behavior, felt like it's not like I like actually getting worse and if they're being like more audacious about it, bizarre to me.


Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Yeah, you've been a great mhm. Yeah, I don't under there's just been so many new stories and I'm this shit even real like it's very disheartening.


Mhm.


I I don't know different people in my family feel differently about it and I'm trying to see everyone's like perspective but you know it's different when we're dealing with human rights and safety and I don't know it's just such a sensitive topic but I feel like both sides are so loud and so like set on their way.


Yeah. Okay. Yeah.


I don't know. I feel like not that we should compromise but like you would think that the people who are arguing that all lives matter and police lives matter and shit like that would just like to take a step back and not think about themselves for once if that makes sense, you know?


Yeah. Yeah.


Oh okay.


I just feel like I just don't get how people can be ignorant to like the reality of what's happening life.


And yeah. Yeah mm and if you see the video of it and you're still like well you know, that's what happened.


Like I I don't know how you gonna deny that like you're literally doing a story about someone who died. Look for no reason it takes I just did it. Yeah like the old man that like they just shoved and then he started bleeding from his head and then they all like 57 officers were dying like in response like yeah how why?


Yeah.


But at the same time like I've been reading things about like officers who have tried to like um see whistleblowers are like stand up for what's right and then they get totally blackballed and they get like forced out of their jobs and they get like targeted at work.


Oh. Oh look.


And so it's like you really can't win. So it's like effect the system that the environment that they operated even if there are police, which part there are like they can't effectively make change because even like like this one of those things like kept escalating and escalating and escalating what happened and every level he took it to the same response.


Mhm, mm.


They were like you're wrong and he got reprimanded and like splendid like singles out looks like if that's the system that's how it is and like really can't make a difference.


Yeah. And that's hard because you want the good people to stay in and try to make the change and then you have people that are like, well all the like if you're a cop who has good morals, you should quit your job. And I'm like what is that doing? You're just learning the bathrooms like have a bigger voice.


The green, what is letting me like you either put your job or you stay silent simple then you're not making a difference there either and you like it needs to be reworked just there has to be a better way but it has to start from the top like it's not there.


Mhm. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I think the issue with like the media and stuff as people are focusing on these very like trivial changes, like changing it jemima or changing Uncle Ben's like those brands, like no one's asking for that. No one's mad about those like trivial things. No one was like asking you to rename things they want like laws and they want reform and you know policy want like these symbolic changes that don't really do anything to make things better because those kinds of changes are what make other people who don't really like get the movement be like, oh this is just getting ridiculous.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


They are asking for too much and you know no one, no one was really asking for that at least from what I've seen I meant so I don't know, wow.


Mhm. But also kind of like, I think that could protests are effective in raising awareness and getting attention affection for the cause.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm I agree.


But I don't think that the protests are necessarily what like getting the changes that have been made. Like, like the policy changes that have happened on like a small scale. I think that's like the petition and the letters and the people who are like reaching out to people in politics, in their districts and like that. I think that's what like pushing it, but I guess that wouldn't really be happening as much as if there wasn't that traction and attention that they're getting at the protest.


Yeah. Mm Yeah, it's hard to know like what is the biggest driving force but as long as you're doing something I guess it's better than doing nothing.


But at the same time like you said you can't you know expect to get things done unless you're actually like signing and crawling and doing everything you need to do so.


It's just sad that the people who are like going out and protesting are like putting themselves in like so much harm's way could do it because they're getting on to act like it.


Mm Yeah.


Mhm.


Yeah.


It's just crazy. Like I can't imagine what like the rest of the world is thinking being like how what's the behavior of our government and our police?


I can't imagine this is the most unstable country ever.


Yeah. And I don't, I can't even imagine like the issues with other countries that have like I don't know it's like third world countries like because this one is so crazy and we're supposed to be one of the better ones.


Like I think I'm so much more sympathy for other people in general.


Yeah. Okay. Yeah.


I just think like, imagine like the country was taken training europe, like where were so comfortable like in terms of like the standards and like how we operate and like barbaric, what's happening here is literally it's like comparable to a third world country, but it's so it's supposed to be so involved.


Mhm mm. Mhm. And okay.


So it's like, I don't know how, I think it's really interesting how foreign affairs will be affected by this because it's like, you really can't be a powerhouse country with the way things happen here and that looks so public.


Mhm. Well yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah I agree. 100% wow.


We've been we've got our 25 minutes and already thank you.


Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.


Yeah I think we're good. Sure what?


Yeah. Okay. Well, it was nice talking to you, you to feel better.


You know it's nice talking to you too. I hope you have a good day. Thanks. Yeah I feel fine.


I think I'm just being dramatic.


Okay.


Yeah.


All right.


Okay well nice to meet you.


Right. What you do?


Bye.


Hi.


Yes. Uh huh. Oh. Uh huh. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's, wow. Yeah.


Hi, Good, how are you?


What we're doing? Oh, one pretty okay. Not bad. No, just open my day kinda ends well. I got like a lot of almost to do.


So hopefully that yeah, it's constant, hopefully confirmation to grain because I'm, I just want to be free tomorrow.


Yeah, that's yeah, that sucks. Yeah, I I mean I get it.


I don't want to do anything to me and I just want to relax, have a nice to stay and I would like that before the weekend comes and you kind of get busy again and I want to like that. So you know, that's my life so far.


I have to go back to work after this, I'm using, this is my lunch break to take a break from having to be an adult.


So I sympathize with that, yep.


Well, really? Well, no, no. Where do you work out there?


Trust I'm a software engineer, so I work for a health care company that manages like healthcare data.


Like what do you do? No. Oh really?


No.


That's pretty nice.


Yeah.


Um I'm doing mathematics right now, but when I'm done, I plan on going back to take out print like an engineering cars, uh mechanical or electrical engineering, something like that.


Very cool.


I don't know, it depends on whatever. Because I'm a really good attention people. Like I was, I was thinking, you know, it was gonna be easy, but how do I have pretty much like physics and mats, but I'm not really good at fascinated London, like whatever I know down to other people. So I'm like, you know, just fuck it. I'm just gonna do something, something else that would probably be a little bit like more, you know, easy for me to be able to like, oh, embrace it on every point that Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah, I actually actually switched from physics into computer science because when I got a physics internship it was all coding and I was like this is kind of cool and then I was like but I can definitely get a job programming.


So is anything Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


I don't know if I can get a job in physics where I live, so I just was like, screw it, we'll switch.


Uh Oh, I pretty much leaving close to Chicago.


Ouch. Uh huh.


So how do I pretty much want to like move out when I'm done with college?


What?


Because I mean you guys was pretty okay but it's not like the best place ever. Like even like I have like people you pretty much know.


It's kind of like kind of sucks so I'm hoping I could move out when I'm done.


Go somewhere else. Just explore other places.


Mhm. Yeah.


Just not fun, things like that.


Really?


But yeah, I know, it's pretty, pretty hard to like, I repeat you in that.


I did company science some semesters ago and I was like, okay, this is like a whole new world to me, like what's going on?


Yeah.


I was kind of like kind of like what's going on there for us, then I have to like watch Youtube videos when I want to do piping and I know the kind of things because I wasn't really getting more, my teacher was trying to tell me everything like that, so I was like, no, I can't just waste my money. I'm paying for this thing. I gotta like glenn out to do other things myself. So I decided to like just sit down, just watch the videos, try to understand and do some other things, although I'm not really the best guy at it, but I'll try my best to try and it's pretty Mhm.


Sure. Yeah. It's one of those things that doesn't make any sense until it clicks and when it clicks it's just like, oh it all falls into place and that's, I mean that's how physics was for me too.


That's it. Yeah.


I was like when physics finally like made sense, I was like, oh everything makes sense now purpose well and physics explains so much about just like what you have to like go through on a day to day life, just like as people like in existence, like all the things that happen around us, obviously like everything is applied physics, every single thing is applied physics and I never get over.


Yeah, Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, that's the way I feel about physics and maths and I feel like that's the joy from satisfaction I get from, you know my name. That oh, this is the way the thing is, you know, that's how it's supposed to be. All, that's why this is this, that's why I pretty much love it. Like for others, I pretty much I'm like, okay, you know, I don't really care about physical matchup, like, wow, that's pretty cool, you know? Although I feel like others like biology, I'm not really good about it, but anthropologie my uncle told me it's no biologist, pretty much basically just life, you know, everything you see around you, apology, you know? But I feel like physics, I feel like everything is the same thing. Physics as well. Everything around you, there's a physics the same with max, you know, you did with everything like that. So, you know, although I'm not really good at biology, biophysics is just pretty sweet and interesting and at the point that what's going on Mhm. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably just tells you why this is this why this that with an equation to it, so that you can pretty much Snowden didn't just come from nowhere.


That blew my mind.


There's something that started it then linked with this this this this to found this. They're like, okay, so this is why the light is going like this, this is why something is working like this, and I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. So yeah, it's pretty, pretty interesting.


And so far, I guess hopefully it doesn't go too hard on me when I'm almost done and everything like that because sometimes we almost done. You feel like, you know, it's getting hard and everything like that, but you know, I can put you got it, thanks together.


Yeah, what year are you in school?


And at that point that, so how long is the one I'm currently, I told you right now?


It's okay.


Almost my from earlier. I mean, I don't know how to put it. I would say it's my toad here, like it's supposed to be like a five year kind of program instead of four about what you don't spend for. So just like, okay, it's just my 30 years just have like one more to go away. So I don't really say four years or something like that. It's whatever another point. That's how long have people working with this um software engineer.


I graduated two years ago with this december, so I've been working at this company for I guess, almost two years now, so it's pretty crazy.


Yeah, yeah.


I feel old.


Uh We all feel old at some home, but please, you know, like Yeah.


Yeah, it's so weird because like, I doesn't feel like I graduated, especially because of like the pandemic and everything, it does not feel like I graduated two years ago. It feels like I graduated like six months ago, so I'm just like, no, it's been 10 years.


Yeah. so and that's what I felt, I just feel like when you're inside you just feel like things are kind of like a little bit slower or something like that.


Yeah, uh huh.


I don't know. Then when you go out you're like, oh everything is, you know, pretty fast, you know, nothing is waiting for your life moves on and everything like that. Something Okay, so how are you doing with coronavirus over like where you at?


So I'm in Canada Kansas city area, so we're okay.


Are they? Mhm. Yeah. Okay.


Um I'm in the part of the midwest where there's a lot of people who are very Republican and very like I'm not going to wear a mask, like this isn't real, like you don't know what's happening and so it's really um interesting to be around it, but for the most part, like the people like I associate with and the people I'm around are all just fine, Like we're all just at home doing nothing.


Yeah and I think yeah. Uh huh. Mhm.


My friends to get together and play cards on zoom every weekend because we don't know what else to do with our lives.


Mhm.


So how's your college handling it?


Okay girl. I feel it. Oh man, okay.


It could be better to just, you know, because I actually thought it was gonna like be like okay you guys don't have to come for the semester and just stay back where they're like nah no no no you guys are coming back. No weird.


Okay.


And I was like okay let's go back and everything like that. But I was always inside most of the time. Well let's probably go to class. I just come back home and it's like, and I feel like people stick going to bars and everything like that. And then, and the school didn't do anything about it. So it's kind of like shocking. You know, just allowing everybody cases kind of like started going up a little bit. Then the old Illinois, the case is also like going up and everything like that. But they were like, nah, no, you guys are still gonna stay. You know, we're keeping it under control. And I'm like, okay, cool, cool. So I pretty much don't go out at all. But last week I kind of like thought I had the coronavirus because I had like all the symptoms like I was a headache. That is so true, like in high fever kind of everything, But I just found it like, it was acceptable or something like that. No, I was like, oh, cool. Because I thought, because I was like, I don't go out.


Yeah.


I don't see anybody. So this is not like my, my, my chances as opposed to like really low for me to get it. But you know, it's whatever. But I'm glad I'm doing okay because last week I was doing entire book, wasn't doing fine at all. But now I'm doing better and I'm just looking forward to the thanksgiving break. That's in like a week or so. So I go back home and my family up some good time. Probably go for like black Fridays. I'm like, I don't know if this is going to be a black friday this year. I know.


I don't know.


Probably online.


I've heard that they're not really doing like a lot of stores have already started to try to prevent the crowds on black friday.


Yeah. It's gonna be a while or something like that. What what's the problem? I feel like the big ones are still going to do it but some will probably be online.


Probably.


Just shop online and everything like that. Well I I really don't go. This is gonna buy first time ever going to black friday. And I think if there's gonna be one, I don't really go.


I just like why why why do you want to go and just run around into car? Somebody push you like what the fuck? You know?


Yeah, I go like two places on black friday and that's like home depot because I love like, like I love building stuff and like doing woodworking projects.


It's it's what?


So like I'll go and get tools because one people go to pump people in black friday but people people to go to home depot on black friday aren't like the soccer mom who's going to kick people in like karate chop somebody to get to the $2200 tv.


Yeah. Yeah.


Now they're all like yeah this is a $600 tool that's now $400 so I'm just going to wait in line for it and I'm just like, yeah, you guys are my people all hang out here.


Yeah, true.


Yeah. Okay. Mhm.


I don't know. It's it's always different. She like new videos every year. People fighting over my dude. You're notified. Yeah. Fight of oil.


It's just a thing. Mhm.


Yeah. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure those like companies and everything like that they make, you know, sales and everything like that. I appreciate that. That's that's like the root price.


It just put like a price on it.


Okay.


I was like, oh, 20% off. You know, it's supposed to be ordinary fund, right? But before on you it's 600 now. Just by now. I just like, okay, thanks buddy. But it's whatever. I guess it's kind of like fun or sometimes because I don't I don't really get the whole idea of being right.


Yeah. Yeah, cooking is great.


It's whatever. And I get to like do thanksgiving dinner with my family up some fun cook for them because I love cooking a lot. I'm lou yeah, I spent a lot of time thinking so I could like twice a week, three times depends on whatever I could.


I spend a lot of time cooking.


But I must look like like stop that last medical long time because I'm a coach so I can't be cooking like every single day. But so I have to look like something I knew like, okay, just put in the fridge can come back to, you know, just pack it up and eat it again and everything like that. So that's my life. It's my life months a year.


Yeah. When I was in college I cooked on Sundays and then would pack like all my meals for the week, so I would spend all sunday cooking and then just like pack stuff in the bridge lined it up because I just didn't know what else to, like I wasn't gonna cook on afghan school nights at home work.


Right? Church? Yeah. I couldn't buy days because my Saturdays, I just pretty much just sleep all day on Saturdays for some red, just fine.


Mhm.


Just find it like, just have like this pleasure, just doing nothing on saturday. Just sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep. So I'm like, do it, you gotta figure out. So I'm like, ok, instead of just sleeping out in the spring, but just kind of probably watch a movie, making a nice break first, you know, watch a movie or something like that. But on Saturdays, I don't do anything my own marks. I didn't do them during the week on Sundays. That's it. Pretty much premature.


Yeah.


I don't like, I'm I'm the busy type some, it's okay, I'm like busy during the week, like from morning to like seven, depending on the time, but most of the time always been like money to seven, but after seven o'clock I'm always freezing doing anything.


I always so go ahead.


So those times I'm kind of busy during the week, so I kind of like, okay, you know, I have to rest, have to like try to like have some time for myself. I'm like, okay, saturday is just gonna be that day, but just don't do anything. I just pretty much just lay around doing nothing stuff and it's pretty much been okay.


Pretty much just gives me, well I mental states a little bit better and it's not like that, so that's, that's something I really value a lot.


Hello?


Yeah. I used to, I always think like grand plans for my saturday is like we've been working on remodeling our house and like I'm always like, okay, this saturday I'm going to get these three things done because I've been procrastinating on them forever and then I end up sleeping.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


So someday my house was depended someday.


Oh no. So yeah, I was always like that, just pretty much want to do something.


Uh huh Right.


I'm like, nah, I would, I would like, like it depends. I feel like I do that for causes that I don't really, like when I was like a freshman, like, like the english and the Scots is probably, I have like an O mark. Do you weigh like two weeks? I mean it's just better if we could just do it today because it's something you could probably just do in a day.


Well I'm like, nah, we're gonna wait for the weekend, the weekend cause by like next week, next weekend comes back like my day after or before.


Yeah. Oh, it's okay in four years.


I'm like, I pretty much just end up doing it like a day before. I'm like, why? Why do I always stress myself? I'm like, you just do it pretty early and everything like that. But I still, I still pretty much on my own market like two days before or something kinda. I never let my lesson hopefully someday.


I never learned, I never figured it out. Or 4.5, I guess it took me 4.5 to graduate.


I never figured it out. I literally, every time I was like, alright, this semester I'm going to buy a pretty agenda and I'm going to like line everything up and I'm going to schedule time that I'm going to do this stuff and it's going to be wonderful and I'm not going to be stressed out.


Um Yeah, yeah, probably don't do anything.


And then I would like go home from class. I'm just like got Oh mhm Hey.


Just unless I probably have like an exam coming up test then I probably just read um okay, read this, read that ha ha I'm fine. I'm just just call my own day. But you know, college has been fun and it's, I wouldn't trade is better than high school.


Mhm Yeah, I liked college a lot more than high school, but I really liked my independence.


Um In terms of trivializing a lot of people, I feel like high school is a little better. But in terms of education where I'm trying to like plan something for the colleges more better. I learned more from college and everything like that. And I said I wasn't, I was just, I was just always like, okay, let's go next day, let's please, let's just go wild day because I never approved. It just landed at, in high school. I was just not. It was like an uh yeah. Mm Yeah, nobody knows me.


Like I like not having to, I like moving on my parents, like, I love my family, but I was like, I'm ready to be my own person and like live on my own. So when I got to college, it was just like privacy.


Yeah, That doesn't mean right now, but me in high school, like I would always sometimes like a break in a short break, long break. I would never be at home. Like I'm going to move, probably going to my grandma's place, my cousin's place, somebody.


Mhm Yeah.


But I'm never always at home. Like all my music, my middle school year, high school year. I never had time for the other day. So with somewhere else, my mom was like, why, why do you always want to just go somewhere else? I'm like, I don't know. You know, it's just very much I stay with you like the old semester along three months and let me have my old freedom and peace from Youtube. I'm like, okay, just go, I'm like, okay, I'll have fun.


Yeah.


You know, we'll come back again to in your semester. Just have fun again. So, so yeah, high school was very fun. Yeah. I was, I played soccer for my school. Um, I was in track and field and I was like, I'm not like the fast food by like this time in there I could go on and on and on and no, no, no, no. And even though sometimes I'll like, just chest abdominal pain, I felt like everyone for like two hours, but I would never get tired. I said like I could go for like another two hours. Like it was like, it was like I was on crack or something. I don't know, I was just like different, I was a different type of human being back then.


You know, it's the same thing right now if I go to the gym and I was like a trade me or something like that. I think people just look at the wall, I just look at the direction I just kept running and running and running and running and I feel like I could go forever, but you know, I don't want to like break down my body because I don't know how, oh well nobody's going to keep up with me. I never find that just for, it's pretty much as, you know, I don't get James out that march just for, you know, probably where I eat like a lot and I feel like, oh, we're probably gonna get like a back chain reaction.


Yeah. Uh huh Yeah, I went to the gym a lot in college, but I didn't, I hated running.


I know, I don't, I don't want that. So I pretty much just go to the gym just, you know, lose some calories. I never felt like that then that's not eating again. And I'm like, okay shit, let me go back again, let me go back again, Just come back now. So that's me, that's me. Energy, wow.


I hate, I hate running. I can't run a mile.


Well I won't Right.


I can't hate it. I'm terrible. I'm slow. I'm like, not meant for that, but I like live weight, like weight lifted all the time in college. Like every morning, five a.m. In the gym open. That's where I was. Yeah. I haven't set foot in a gym since I graduated, but I didn't college.


Mhm.


I tried.


I mean right now you have to wear your max because my school we have like a chain, so you have to let max to like go to the gym and for the school, but I got to wear masks and running like two miles, you know, for two miles, women max, it's going to be difficult for me to bridge.


Uh huh.


I never played, so I pretty much just do my gym at the apartment I stay at because we have like a home gym and everything like that, I just do my stuff there and go back home because the same thing because I play soccer for fun on Saturdays or Fridays with my friends, I never plan.


Mhm. Mhm.


So the school is like for you to play soccer on the school field, all the school facilities you have to like your max. And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna be running left and right back in front. You know where my mass is not, it's not gonna be I do for me. So I just stopped going. I stopped going for a while, but hopefully I can go once all my time before the the and sign up for that.


Published I feel that I was dead.


But I don't know, I'll see today if I'm not to be because this message is almost over about like four or five more weeks ago. And before we say by two, this christmas break, then come back again for another semester next year. How far I just want to go with it. I'm tired and really time? Mm hmm.


By like your I mean, I was dead when I got to college but like by year three I was like get me out, get me out, get me out, get me out.


Yeah. Mhm.


And then it took me an extra semester to graduate because I changed my major.


So like I changed my major like six semesters before I graduated. So I had to like 20 credit hours every semester to graduate.


Yeah. What?


And I was like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever done. I hate it.


I want to die. I regret this. I should have dropped out and got in the army and I was like, yes, so okay.


Yeah. Oh, uh that's funny. So if you would want drunk, uh come picture, you know, software engineer right?


Mhm.


Is like something else you will be doing right now. Like if you really like doing software engineers, there's something else you would like to do.


I always wanted to be a fighter pilot. If I could be anything, I'd be a fighter pilot.


Mhm And more.


I like, I don't know I want to be a fighter pilot for the military but I don't wanna have to go through basic training. I don't want to have to like I just want people to fly the plane just let me fly the plane and go home at the end of the night.


Yeah. Uh yeah, Yeah. Yeah.


No.


I feel like it was also like, so, and that will become like a mechanical engineer.


Yeah, I don't think you ever really have to decide like I think you can just kind of like you can just be a kid forever in like someday you'll just be like, oh yeah, this is my job.


Um it's better. I don't know. It's man right now. I don't know because I'm not getting the job yet. No, but I was wanted to be pilots as well. Although I can still become one though if I probably joined the um, what's it called for us or something like that. Uh I don't know. Maybe baby. I'm still making up my mind probably in the yeah. Mhm.


I mean like I have friends that graduated with me in 2018 that are already going back and getting a second degree because they're like, you know, I thought I like that but I don't I actually want to do this. So at least there's always that yeah, it eventually calms down.


Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's, that's the thing about life. You know, there's always like another child for you too decide what you like. You know, even if you tell you it doesn't matter as long as you kind of like know what you're doing. Kind of like know that okay, this is not for me, you know, I just want to go back do what I kind of like enjoy a little bit because you don't want to do something you don't pretty much like, you know, because you want to have like this kind of joyful you're doing even though it's gonna distress with most jobs our jobs are stressful. But as long as you how can I have like two compassion for it? Like joy for it? It gives you going. It keeps your keeps the drive there and I'm pulling that so that's what that's what like it's pushing me forward like that, you know, physics and everything matter the Detroit. I'm gonna do something beauty, something, make something fantastic, you know? And if it's like that, okay, let's just keep going. Don't go back down. I'm not backing down now. I have a longer to go, so let me just go, go go. So do you what is a Yeah.


I said it eventually calms down.


Um actually like that, I don't know, it's whatever, it's whatever.


Just move on with it and move my life. So how often do you do? This is just like at the time, bruh?


Mhm. Like these chat things, I think this is the third one I've done.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm.


I don't know, I don't do it very often.


Oh, I think this is my third one too. I think so. And I think they stopped like a wild Yeah, it's kind of fun to just meet some random person because I I barely talk to people, so I barely even say hi.


It was kind of fun. Yeah.


I said hi Doper. I barely talked to people that problem. So it's kind of fond of I'm like a view is like oh if I could probably talk to somebody that I don't know, there's a big chance, I could probably just say hi to somebody and just talk.


Yeah. And I just wanted to say hi, okay.


But it's never like that. I'm always like kind of nevers because you know people you know you want to talk to black, I don't have a boyfriend. I'm like I'm not trying I'm not trying to ask you something but you know it's what happened, I don't want to like be ruled to anybody.


Yeah, people are weird.


So like every time I try to like approach a girl or something like that so it's like I don't know what's gonna go. I was gonna say I don't know if I'm gonna be judged because I hate judging people. I don't judge, I don't like judging anybody but you know, people will demand beings like always be here man. You know, they're always pretty much a judge you based on your first impression and never find that and I feel like the first impression doesn't really matter. Well this is like a professional standard where you're trying to get a job or something. It doesn't really matter what it is like relationship friendship because yeah the rest of whatever you guys are gonna have. So it will be based on the first impression is how much the tree too well and everything like that. So I don't know that's the that was my way of thinking but that's what man.


I mean if everybody were to base their interactions with me up there, like first in person interaction with me, I wouldn't have any friends because I'm super awkward and I'm super shy.


Thank you.


But once you can tell me, I'm like, it's just my humor.


Yeah.


I'm good with stuff like this. When I meet people in person, I'm like, it's like once I get to know you, it's fine.


Okay.


But when I'm just like sitting here, it's just, I don't know, like I hate it. So I get that I totally try not to judge people off the first time I meet them because if people did that with me, I would literally never talk to anyone ever again.


Yeah true.


So I think probably the time is hot this but there was like 26 minutes.


Yeah, I think we should be good.


Mm Yeah so thank you. So thanks for talking with me. Was nice getting to know you and make sure you have a good time with your work, going back to work today and I would like that and just out fun this weekend.


Hopefully just a thank you.


Why you too? And good luck with the rest of your semester.


Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. So by.


Hi.


Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah Okay welcome back. Yeah what is it? That's all yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay yeah thank you. Right yeah. Mhm. Yeah yeah. Mhm. A lot of hard here's something mm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Morning one time I have some time. Mhm. Yeah morning I'm Mark I'm good.


morning, I'm Cheryl Hey Mark, how are you now?


Nice to meet you.


You're treating you?


So where are you from?


I'm from ST louis but I'm located in Birmingham Alabama.


Yeah Yeah I live in Ohio near Toledo Ohio uh here is really nice.


Okay, how's the weather with, wow.


We had almost 80 degrees yesterday. Yeah it was weird.


Yeah um we're kind of cloudy today. I think we're getting part of that latest hurricane Aetna at uh I haven't even been paying attention to it.


Uh I haven't paid much attention either.


Yeah. Yeah. Are you an Ohio native?


Yes I have lived near here in my whole life. I for this for this I've lived and lived from here is columbus Ohio which is only about two hours away so mm he might have been we've had a lot of presidents from Ohio like six or seven from Ohio but I don't remember Ford was or not he might I think it was in michigan actually at least back in the day I think so.


Okay. All right. Mhm. Wasn't president ford from Ohio. Okay. All right. Yeah, I think I think for whatever reason Ohio does produce a lot of presidents. I don't know much about dishes native to Ohio. Are there any like regional things that you know like you can only get in Ohio or?


Mm. Right mm I can't really think of a whole lot, I mean around here there's a lot of, there are a lot of german people so I mean maybe that's what fit I guess with bratwurst and sauerkraut and stuff like that and but it's nothing that you probably have never heard of her head or mhm yeah yeah mhm Oh yeah, that's right uh huh, yep, mhm yeah oh yeah things are a lot different, yeah yeah yeah yeah mm so you've lived, you lived bring him for how long then?


Right. Yeah ST louis has a big german population or they still do but it was oh God, late 18 hundreds there was a huge influx of german immigrants and Busch, beer, Budweiser beer, that family, that family is german and um so like when I was a kid years ago there were lots of little um like german butchers and german meat sausage shops and you could get bratwursts than you could get knockwurst then it makes me crazy today when you go to the store and there's something labeled bratwurst and it's pink. No no. Yeah yeah bratwurst believe it or not it should be gray, it should be almost the color of talk and yeah I love sauerkraut, I love spicy mustard. Um So yeah. Okay very cool, very cool. Yeah about I'm gonna say about 30 years now and um my blood has thinned out I don't think I could do another ST louis winter.


Okay huh I bet yeah uh huh uh huh that's funny you talk about weather guys, yeah you said yeah, no that's all right, go ahead.


I yeah I really don't think I could live there during the winter you know like I'll go visit relatives um Right after christmas and you know were there 34 days in I'm cold I'm ready to go. Um But it's been about yeah. Yeah my um I'm sorry. No I was just gonna say that my husband's family, most of his family is here and so yeah, I eat barbecue chicken, like barbecue chicken before I came here, but now it's sweet tea and um how long grits?


Oh yeah, yep, I've had a lot of grits in my life, yeah mhm uh huh, uh huh, uh huh mhm so it was like I was saying before it's funny you talk about weather and I said it was 80 degrees here just yesterday and it can almost be 80 degrees today, but starting tomorrow we're going to be in the forties so we have quite the temperature differences happens around here.


Uh huh. Mhm. Uh that's uh grits is distinctly southern um but it's so funny how much grits and polenta have in common, it's like Atlanta, Okay, call it that if you want to, but my in laws are going to call it grits, do you guys get a lot of snow and Mhm.


Uh We get some snow yes. Uh We live on the right side of the lake that we don't get the snow that like Cleveland does because every Cleveland they get Cleveland and over pennsylvania they get a lot of snow because of the lake effect.


Yeah. Mhm, wow, okay, now my geography is really bad.


Um So when we get six inches of snow they get a foot and a half of snow over there I think.


Is that like superior or Lake Erie Lake Erie Lake Erie.


Eric yeah yeah yeah they probably get affected by that to there on the other side, I've heard good things.


Okay. Um I have a friend who lives in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and I visited her want to say it's two summers ago, is during the summer. Um But Pittsburgh was great, I had a blast, I I had a blast, ate my way across the city um in case you haven't figured it out.


Mhm. Yeah.


Uh I love to eat and I love to try like all of the local dishes um and there is a God, what's it called?


It's like militaries, it might be pila terry's, there is uh it started as you know, little family restaurant now it's a chain and they make sandwiches with, I want to get this right smoked sausage sauerkraut um God, oh, in parochial, like a all in the same sandwich, it was fabulous, absolutely fabulous.


Oh sounds good. Uh huh Yeah it's still kind of far but yeah that's probably the closest, yep.


So I want to say Pittsburgh is the closest I've ever been to that part of the country, wow, Mhm, Mhm.


So uh how is the virus down there?


You know what? Um Yeah, I couldn't tell you, I uh you know, if they say stay at home, understand at home yesterday I went to the grocery store and I hadn't left the house in about a week.


Mhm Gotcha. Uh huh Right yeah.


Um, I do. I wear my mask always. Um, I'm not as hyperactive I guess as I was earlier earlier. You know when I first started like March, I go to the store and I'd stock up on everything and if it came into the house and get sprayed with lights law, um the mail got sprayed with Lysol. Uh, if we got a parcel from, you know fedex or you got sprayed with Lysol.


Uh huh I can understand that, yeah.


I'm not that diligent now. Um, yesterday I did groceries unloaded groceries, washed my hands cross my fingers. Hope for the best. I don't follow a lot of local news because uh, what difference does it make? You know, and a lot of local news in Alabama could mean you know tuscaloosa, which is an hour, hour and a half away. And what really set me off was like turn on the evening news and it was a house fire leading story house fire in Tuscaloosa kills family of eight.


Mhm Uh huh Right.


Why do I need to know that?


Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a good point.


Right? If the fire's not coming my way, why do I need to know that? You know, how is that going to, you know, prepare me for tomorrow or the next five minutes and I went through.


Mhm Mhm Mhm Well maybe that's probably for the better.


Um, so I will read news and it's usually national news, but I don't watch it on television. I don't need to, you know, see those images and I'm blissfully ignorant, you know, so far for me, you know, it's working, it's working really, really well.


Uh huh I Uh huh, mm mhm mhm Uh huh Well I kind of wish it was like that around here.


Um I do work from home and I'm okay with that. And um, it's getting to the point where when I leave the house, it kind of freaks me out, you know, to see so many, you know, restaurants closed and to see so little, you know, activity in the streets, you know, it's kind of like, oh my God, is this the sci fi movie? You know, am I going to see tom cruise running down the street next? Um but I'm, you know, in my own little corner, in my own little world and I'm happy mm what?


We uh we were like that at the beginning but now people are almost back to normal, there's so many people out doing stuff, restaurants are mostly open, I mean they have rules but here in the last week or two are viruses have skyrocketed in Ohio, so the last couple of days 5000 new cases a day and we were even close to that in the beginning, so starting to get scary here again.


Yeah, Yeah, it is, Yes, it is. If you haven't done it yet and I'm not kidding stock up on paper towels.


Oh I probably should had mhm mhm Yeah mhm Mhm Yeah Oh yeah I know we got four here so Uh huh Sure mhm Right yeah yeah okay I'm kind of glad we had this conversation because I just kind of makes me think about doing that because I probably we're probably gonna need to do something.


No, I'm serious because if production goes off line again, you know, there could be another 68 weeks where you know, paper towels are really hard to come by. Um my husband, my long suffering husband, you know, you're kind of like and shake his head because I'm wagging and more paper towels, however, when the first stay at home order came through and I'm like okay I'm gonna go to the store, there was no toilet paper to be had. Not at all. And there are three of us, right? Um and it started to get really kind of you know, kind of sketchy and I'm like okay I'm gonna stock up on kleenex and hopefully, you know, I won't be calling rotor Rooter, you know, two days later and that's another $800. Um But since then I I'm playing it safe really. The things that I know that we're gonna need to just live like civil human beings, the paper towels, toilet paper all right, we're good. Yeah, I mean I mean I'm serious and sometimes I do get panicky. I am high strung.


Uh huh Yeah.


I am and I'll tell I'll admit that I'm really high strong. However when I hear that Kimberly clark and Marcel um you know when when um all of the cleansing wipes like the Clorox wipes, you couldn't find them because they're produced, you know, manufacturers say, oh, we're gonna need like, you know, 40 truckloads, we're going to produce 41 truckloads and we're good all of a sudden there was a demand for 60 truckloads, 80 truckloads and they couldn't produce in time.


Mhm. Yeah. All right yeah Mhm mhm mhm mhm, yep.


Um depending on where you are, you might be seeing a lot of off brand, um, particularly toilet paper because it's being imported from Mexico. Um it's being imported from Canada and so it's not going to be Kimberly clark or Charmin, you know, it still works, but it's nothing you're familiar with because american production, they're trying to play catch up and if they're there, um if their workers get hit, you know, with with a wave and it throws manufacturing offline, you won't find it at the shop and save or the target or the walmart are so you know when it comes, when it comes to disposable paper products, I'm a paper product Prepper.


Yeah. Yes. Mhm mhm. Uh huh True.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.


It's a good thing to do.


I am. We can run out of, you know what, we can run out of beer before we can run out of toilet paper.


Sure.


Yeah, alright.


Are your no I agree with you.


I'm off my soapbox.


Are you're kids going to school at all down there or are they all at home?


My youngest uh is in savannah Georgia and she's a senior at Scad Savannah College of Art and Design.


Mm Uh huh Yeah.


My oldest is at home. He just had a birthday last week and in the spring he's going to see a um, the culinary institute of America and I love saying CIA and people really like, no, no, no, he's going to be a chef and um even though, you know, I want to say they're on the quarter system and you know, he had the option of starting in january.


Uh huh Mhm mm Mhm Right that's probably safer.


we're starting in april and he's like january uh that there needs to be a little bit more stability, you know, in regard to the pandemic before we move across the country. So he's elected to start in april, hopefully, hopefully um when this came down he was cooking for, it was a Marriott, one of the Marriott hotels and when he got laid off, uh there are 300 rooms, there were nine guests in the entire hotel.


Hopefully we'll have something better by then? Right. Yeah mm. Yeah. Oh yeah, yes. Uh huh. As a so he's not working there anymore at all right now Mhm mm mm mm.


No, no, he said he's been laid off and then they said we're going to extend your layoff and he's like okay, and he's been in food service for years and if the, you know, if the hotel lays you off, you know, there are a lot of smaller, you know, locally owned restaurants that are, you're struggling, they're they're really, really struggling and so it's like, you know um you don't have to work you know and so just chill you know there are restaurants open.


All right, Mhm. Yeah. Right. Your restaurant open it all down there, mm.