Yeah. Uh huh. Uh huh. Yeah. Right okay. Okay. Hey what are you doing here? Is what I could burn look evening. Right I have one but I don't know why it's in here if it works. Yeah. Right. Mhm. I have no idea why this is here where it came from taking it for a student I think in the middle you use it and bring it back and I'll just put this taking it back on it'll be fine. I bet that's fine. Thank you. Uh huh. Thank you. Oh yeah yeah wow. Oh good line. Yeah. Oh hi how are you?


Uh huh. And uh I'm good. How y you?


Mhm I'm good.


Yeah.


Um Have you done one of these already?


Yeah. Yeah, I did it in the first round but I only did I think a session so.


Mhm. Yeah I did I did for maybe so and then it ended and I thought well I may as well do more.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


They seemed to go fairly well which is useful.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I guess extremely.


Mhm. Um So where are you where are you are you uh in the U.


Yeah. Mhm.


S. I don't know if these are us only.


I think I had somebody that was foreign once but I couldn't.


We had technical problems.


I'm in the US though, but I don't know if it's not only the U.


Mm. Uh Problem.


S. Okay.


No I think everybody else I've had has been us and they may have been in the U.


Right. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


S.


Yeah.


I couldn't understand a word of what was going on. It was like every time they talked it made a weird noise and I couldn't hear anything.


Mhm. Yeah. To listen.


It was weird. We made it like 15 minutes though which was just holding up pieces of paper and trying to communicate.


Uh mm. Yeah. Yeah. Really?


Mhm. Well because she kept saying like maybe a microphone and and she was like point at the different microphone on her head set and she switch had set so that and I could see the video.


Mm hmm. Oh, thank you.


It just didn't work.


Mhm.


It was weird.


Did you get paid?


Uh No I turned it in as one that had technical issues and they gave me like a dollar for it and told me to reschedule.


Yeah. Yeah. It's a complicated question. Yeah. Yeah, I will tell you that.


Yeah which I guess I still got a dollar, it wasn't a bad and I scheduled them all my break, so like when I'm eating lunch at work, I do this.


All right.


Fair enough. So what's your name?


My name is brad, what's yours, kim?


Okay. Yeah, kim. Yeah. Yeah, magnus.


It's nice to talk to you. Mhm.


Um so what do we do for 25 minutes do you think this year?


Oh I don't know, I never know what to talk about, I always have left that up to the other person kind of I don't know.


Um How about we horns talking about ourselves basically?


Is there?


Just anything you don't mind? Stranger knowing.


Oh that's a ton of stuff. Um Let's see, so uh let's see I'm uh I don't know, I'm in my mid thirties, I have three kids and I teach at the high school, so this is my lunch break at the high school, I'm going to go back to teaching after this and uh I don't know, I'm a pretty average guy.


Yeah. Uh huh. I can't Yeah. Well, screen.


Uh wow.


So um All right. How to keep it short too. um I'm 22. I work at the NIH is some ground researcher and I basically shuffle usa and africa pretty obvious.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah.


Uh huh. I'm not married I don't have kids.


Okay.


Yeah.


Uh huh.


I don't know if I'm in a relationship though. Very complicated.


Mhm. Oh that's always an odd place to be.


I understand, I've been in that non sure.


Yeah. So yeah. Say yes this is just like the summary of it.


Mhm.


Um I should be traveling all pretty soon.


Looking forward to doing that so. Yeah.


Now have a have your travel plans, have your travel plans been like completely canceled because of the corona or are you unable to travel for things because of the shutdowns?


Yeah. Oh. Um No it's just involved.


Uh huh mm.


Um Not at all. I have my fight scheduled for the end of the month and I just have to feel a loads and loads of paper works and then do loads of tests if I test positive and that's the end of me.


To be okay.


I'm definitely not going into a lot to take um Let's test of all the time.


Who? Right and my wife had to take it once she had, I don't know, she had a sinus infection so she had a fever but it wasn't related at all and her work required her to go get a test before she could come back into work, but she works for our local health department so I get why they're nuts, but it was kind of an odd think like she really just need some antibiotics and instead we got to go sit in the line and take a test and Mhm.


So. Yeah. Right. What? All right. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You're thinking you just sneezed at the very busy at work and you're going to take the test. You don't even have an excuse you really take the test to.


Yeah. Right. Yeah.


How's it how's it been over there like it's like back to normal? What state are you good?


Um I'm in Ohio and it's not, but it's kind of is like um we still, if I'm outside of my office, I have to wear a mask.


Yeah. Mhm.


It where things like that. Um you have to wear a mask in the store, but uh to be honest, on the weekends I'm a musician and I still go to bars and play shows just like normal, so it's sort of like they have to close at a different time, so maybe we play an hour earlier um or there's a little bit less people and they have to be at their seats with their drinks, but they could still be in the room, they just have to sit down when they have a drink in their hand.


Mhm. Okay. Yeah thank you People yeah. Mhm.


My kid plays um my my middle son plays fall baseball and they told us basically the rule statewide is you have to wear a mask all the time.


Okay. Yeah. Yes. Mhm. What?


As long as you have a water bottle in your hand, nobody can be fine for not wearing a mask. So please carry a water bottle if you don't want to wear one.


Really?


It's like, oh, okay.


Mm.


You know, like, well mostly wear them, but there's some people that will always carry a water bottle around.


Yeah. Oh yeah.


That's a good out.


Yeah. Okay stan um No well due to wear a work I definitely wear a mask all the time.


I say we do. Is it, is it pretty strict where you're at? Is it? Yeah.


It's crazy because I'm that but if you have some buns with the lines of the map most times so you can imagine how crazy it is.


Yeah. Yeah.


Um Yeah the stories around you you also still have to wear a mask.


Yeah.


I really don't go out anyway so um I don't see much but a few people I see I think they're all still very much complying to it so we heard much in town.


Yeah. Now there's probably, um, I would say there's about four or 5 stores that I'm in once a week.


I'm thinking about work by Stewart.


Like on my way to work, I stopped and buy gas at the same store every day. None of their employees where they don't ask anybody to wear them if you wear one, that's fine, you know?


Yeah. You Mhm.


But uh huh. I, and then I get into the town I work in has a city mask mandate to so there it's very more strict than you can be fined.


And it's a city ordinance, not a health department ordinance in that matters like where I live, they just if you called the sheriff, they'd say I'm not the masked police called the health department and send you on your way.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. What? Mm mm.


And and it and a lot of times I've run to the dollar store because it's closest I've been in there in the evenings at the same time that the police is in there on his way to a shift and I call him little copies shorter than I am and I'm not a tall guy.


Okay. Mhm. Mhm True.


So but I I've known him for about three years.


What?


I've never seen him wear a mask.


Okay that's Uh huh.


This here's the the policeman is not, you know, and he's an odd.


Just absolutely nothing to wear a mask. There's absolutely nothing you can say to make them wear a mask.


Yeah right.


Just interesting way.


It's like if they're going to uh if they're going to do it they will if if they're not they're not but I really think the telling them they have to doesn't make a difference.


Okay. Mhm. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh well but I'm kind of just very skeptical because at some point I felt like um the old thing was going to fizzle at some point but right now it just keeps growing and it's just scary because yeah, I saw review that they got a lesson.


Yeah. Yeah. Right. That was right.


Um I don't know.


Yeah.


Sugar.


I saw I saw that and they said that Zoom stock dropped like 25% yesterday as soon as they announced it because they said if they have a vaccine, they don't need video conferencing software and their stock just plummeted.


Okay so yeah. Uh huh. Yeah.


That's kind of nuts.


Mhm. Uh huh. What?


You know that I was real convinced it would all go away like in the springtime I was like it's just gonna pass over.


Bye.


It's always something scary on the Nunes. Well because the news always tells you scary stuff and like there never things are always scary when you hear them and I'm like yes I don't worry about scary stuff, it'll be fine, and then it was like oh it's november, it's still not fine, I guess it's scary stuff.


Yeah. Oh yeah exactly and change is oh my okay so um I really just hope it goes away pretty soon because it's just stuff in a lot of things that everybody wants to do, it feels like the world is just standing by and we need to understand it by time is not waiting but we are, that's what the script please.


Mhm Uh huh. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Well and it's kind of like um the states that have the rules about thanksgiving, like you can't have so many family members and that thanks to, its like, oh no, then you won't be able to have people at christmas, what are you gonna do, like?


It's incredible. Uh huh. Yeah.


So it's a weird world that we live in?


Uh huh. We It's actually really thought for people that stay alone and um look forward to thanksgiving and Christmas to actually visit friends and family because now everybody just to have a family thing which is like 34 people and it's like so I'm going to spend thanksgiving along.


Yes. Right, right, yeah, and and they kept a lot of places are saying, you know, it's limited by household, so you're like, well I don't live with anyone, what do I do?


Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I yeah.


I, you know, we, we live in a little tiny small town and my parents live like three houses down from us, so the whole time while we're staying home I'm still over at their house, mowing their yard and doing stuff you know uh we're just the same household, why not?


Thank you. Mhm. Mhm. Thanks for god knows that. Oh uh me honestly I just honestly oh god you always just basically staying together on stage.


Mm we'll count it that way mhm but I can imagine like if you weren't that would be hard right well mm very little, I used to go fishing in Canada when I was a kid and that was about it, we live like four hours from Lake Erie, so we go we go to the lake, we drive it, we don't even drive into Canada, we take a boat across to Canada and like fishing Canadian waters and spend the day.


So um tell me um have you ever traveled out of the U. S. What countries have you been to? Yes. Mhm. I'm good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh.


It was a weird thing mhm But probably not since I was about 13 so it's been 20 years now that where all have you traveled?


Well. Well yeah. Yeah wow.


You travel a lot?


Yes. Well I can't say a lot but I've been to most african countries so I will count that.


Right yeah okay mhm no that's that's way more than me mhm Mhm.


But um I've only to china I've been to um Spain And the us and then probably 12 or 15 African countries so. Mhm. Yeah but it's just because my job, so not like their personal trip, they all work related.


Uh huh.


Uh Yeah got it almost anyway because like I could blue.


Right. I am. Yeah, I I used to drive a box truck. Go ahead.


Yeah I wasn't about to say anything.


Mhm.


That makes sense. This is just talk as.


Oh no, no that's okay. I guess I used to I used to drive a box truck and I had to travel like multiple states like um You know three or 4 states at a time.


Mhm. Yeah. Okay brow.


But I never I never got to go anywhere cool for work out of the country. Oh and when one time my work sent me to to L.


A. And wants to boston and that was like that was the traveling, that was it. Mhm.


Well who brings even if you've been to only one country, if you have fun I think you just pretty much counts then.


The they were fun trips though. Mhm. Mhm.


So yeah this place accounting I guess it actually works.


Yeah that's a that's a good way to count it. Uh huh. Mhm.


So um what do you do when you're not um teaching and when you're not plane it's because plane you said you're in a band?


Um Let's see.


Oh point what?


Yeah that's kind of I don't know it's a fun project. It's the best way to make money on the side because you get to hang out at bars and drink for free and hang out with all your other musician friends.


Yeah.


Um Other than that, like uh my kids play baseball, so I helped coach baseball, really, we do um a ton of like the kids love video games, so we played the Minecraft and it drives me nuts.


Uh huh.


Um But we do a lot of, we do a lot of like construction too, like we're doing a full house, a historical house rehab right now, so on weekends I'll go there and work.


I think it's works is it's great.


Another crew, works during the week, but I'm related to those guys, so it's sort of a like a pick up job, they say, oh just paint these rooms or do whatever you're doing and we'll pay you a little bit. So what about you? Do you have good hobbies? Yeah.


Yeah. Honestly if I say cookie and doesn't count because yeah, that's basically the only thing that I kind of give myself time to do.


Mhm. I think it counts. Yeah. Yeah.


Um I walk about 50 hours plus weekly.


So yeah, it's crazy food.


Right, well, that's a good one though, I mean that's one that it's a fun if you kind of like a hobby, not just chore if you sort of do it because you enjoy it.


You know, we have like we have a back deck, we have a backpack with a lot of grills, it's got like like two regular grills and a big smoker and and we spend like a whole weekend cooking in the fall and it's, you know, it's it's more like a hobby than just regular cooking, so I get it.


Come on. Yeah. Mhm. The fact that we have makes it work that way because and it can be really stressful and then the more you see it um as a job, most stressful it gets, the more you eat doing it.


Mhm. It yeah.


But if you enjoy doing this, you just realized it loads of varieties.


Right. Mhm.


So yes, what cousins you like?


Mhm. Yeah.


Are you just like the typical american?


Um Probably no uh generally if I had to pick one thing, I mean it's like uh sort of probably like a mix of either barbecue or seafood, so because like I love barbecued meats, we do smoked meats, but then I would rather eat like fish and shrimp every day, so, but it's um Lake Erie is a long haul and you can only catch so many while i in a day and then you have to cook them, but when you can have them, that's probably the best.


No, the Oh yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


What about you?


Yeah. Well um uh to be honest, it's been very much a struggle trying to adjust my taste buds over here. I'm gonna be right sensor. I really don't understand some of the things that, yeah, but okay.


Mhm. I mean is there like specific ones that are like, that really blows my mind or is it just general like this food?


One thing that I really, you know, don't, don't come any um my parents, you like, I really don't eat cheese for anything in this world.


Uh huh. Uh huh. What was it cheese?


I don't know why you would like you, you and my mom thought giving me this warm.


Mhm. But it's Uh huh.


You look like, why don't you get cheese? And I'm like, why would you in chief? I don't know.


My you know, mm.


I don't like your no time enough and you all seem to like eating everything.


Mhm.


I'm trying to order just pastor this cheese in it. I'm trying to as appeaser that she's in it. I'm trying to order this, this cheese and it's like, what can you go?


Mhm. Uh huh.


Just eat something without apple's jube.


Yeah. Right.


I know. Yeah.


Of my mm That's it, My my middle son.


Okay. Oh good. That's the only other thing I can really enter, like, no, no, no, it's fine.


No, go ahead. Yeah, No, my middle son, my middle son refuses to eat cheese. He's eight and like if you put it on his spaghetti or whatever, he pulls it off and it's the spaghetti underneath, it's okay man, Whatever you like, you know, that's it.


Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's the # one.


You're missing out, but Okay.


Like most of you all Okay.


Yeah.


That's all you'll say. Oh, my colleagues always like who you missed up?


Uh huh Uh huh Yeah.


And I'm like, no thanks Maybe.


Uh huh mm uh No, I I get it.


Yeah. Yeah. Well thanks. Yeah.


Mhm.


Tell me what's wrong.


Rian thing that most people don't like, but then you like to Yeah.


Um I eat olives, eat olives all the time.


Like We got we can feel like 2-3 jars of all of the week.


Yeah. What?


Yeah, like like green ones, Yeah.


Really? It's yeah.


Mhm. It used to be with the person cheese.


You know, um won't even like the end who obviously don't understand our plantings.


Yeah. Uh huh Mhm. Yeah. Okay.


Mhm. Uh I like grilling them and like find them.


Yeah.


They're so sweet. But my friends think I'm much truly weird. So if you have a plantain, okay.


One time. Oh yeah, I've had like fried plantains are great and I used to try to make them and I can't make them very well.


Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yes.


Mhm Uh huh The if if somebody else I know, but if somebody else makes them, I will eat them.


Why? It's so easy.


So you're like the type that just, did you just be anything as far as its food and it takes good basically.


Yeah, mostly.


Well, I like the concert like neutral.


Yeah. Uh Yeah. Uh huh Okay, there's a few things, but it's really good.


So All right, good school. So I think the last person I spoke to on you, she went on and on about um Disneyland.


Okay. I don't know. But sure. Yeah, I don't know which one is which We've been to the one in florida, Disney world I think.


So have you ever taken your kids there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Uh but not Disneyland in California suck.


Uh Okay.


But we went we used to go to we used to go to Disney World a lot as a child like Uh huh.


Okay. I thought he was being okay. Uh Yeah.


Mhm. Yeah.


You know everybody is always talking about you're not Oh wow.


Okay. I think my parents took us five or 6 tons.


Your kids definitely do are fine.


Yeah. Uh huh. They're kind of wild.


Well, I like it already.


Yeah, that Yeah.


Okay. So um We are about a minute or two. Yes.


Yeah, I think my timers got one minute left.


So yeah.


Yes.


So it was really great talking to you though.


And I've got kids joining my zoom class already that starts in.


I think this experience was this experience is kind of good.


Yeah.


So it was great talking to you. Uh Yeah, that's it.


Oh yeah, it was nice to talk to you, too. I these are always an adventure.


Yeah. I just want to know that um different people.


Mhm.


I can walk in something. Well, it's not scary. You know serial killer, are you?


Yeah, it's it's always now it's it's fun. Good. Mhm.


Yeah. Okay.


So um yeah, I guess we could Go 1126.


Mhm. Yeah, I think I think we're at time, so So I've got over 25 so we're definitely there.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


But it was nice to talk to you today.


Yeah, sure.


I hope I hope you have a good day.


All right. So yeah, Youtube can buy.


All right. Mhm. Yeah, I'm fine, mm.


Mhm. How do I offer


Yeah.


Hey, how's it going?


Hey. Mhm. Good. Can you hear me?


Yeah, I hear you. Can you hear me? Well, I accidentally clicked the next arrow even though it says not to and uh, I was like panicking and then I found the link on the message at the prolific, I'm Kenny by the way.


I am. Yes. Yeah. So Mhm. Yeah, and you know, most of it's kind of bullshit anyway, because I, the first one of these I did, I we got disconnected and I just went back and it was all fine. So I don't know anyone.


Uh, Alan, nice to meet you.


I'm alan I'm kind of I am from Chicago or I'm living in Chicago.


So, where are you from?


What about you, Dallas?


I'm living in Dallas.


Excellent.


uh, it's a 94 today, I think.


It's warmer there probably even than it is here. Is that right? You guys in the middle of? Yeah, that we were um I'm just gonna set the timer so that I remember both, so we remember both to stop the conversation and to make sure it doesn't end too quickly.


Uh, Okay.


It's 25 minutes. Right, awesome.


Yeah. 25.


Um So are you born and raised in Dallas, or?


No, I'm from a coal, so Oklahoma and all right, So it's actually kind of a funny story.


Mhm. Okay. And you just, the wind blew south or how did you uh enough analysis? Yeah.


Um, so I lived in Tulsa and the two suburbs on either side of it, like all the way up until I was 18 and then I belled out and went to Northwest Arkansas and then I was like ping pong and back and forth to Tulsa and Northwest Arkansas ended up getting married to this girl and she was like, okay, just pretty a terrible person.


Okay. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, mm hmm. Oh, people. Mhm.


Like I found out she was like highly like highly racist and she got violent, she's like assault me and like you can't hit her back as you go to jail or uh but you don't want to hurt her.


Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm.


So I ended up bailing on her, We got into an argument and I talked her into going to a hotel and staying on for a while.


Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Well then I was on the internet and I went in this chat room and I met this girl and uh it's about this music festival up in Illinois.


Mhm. Uh huh.


Well I managed to get a ride playing with somebody else and I've been talking to that girl in the chat room.


Yeah. Yeah.


Well my wife was staying in the hotel.


Yeah. Nothing in particular.


Well my ride canceled the day before I was supposed to leave and so she talked to friends and then coming up 150 miles out of their way and picking me up and we went to that music festival together.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.


And then I went home with her.


Mhm.


But I lost pretty much all my stuff when that happened. Well then we moved to Tulsa like four months later and she got pregnant.


Right.


And then I've been in Dallas every since I came back to doubt.


Okay. And is your wife still, are you at the hotel or like she, did you ever get, did you ever get your wife out of the hotel or is she still in the hotel?


Uh no, she moved back into the house when she found out that I wasn't coming back from the festival, but my mom told her she could come back because my mom had moved in when I left and my mom let her movement back in.


Yeah. The money back. Mhm, mm. You know? Yeah.


But because her name was still on the leave, she ended up kicking my mom out, even though I'd like left it to my mom because it's like rent to own trailer.


Mhm. Mhm. Sure. Yeah. Oh, okay.


Uh I just gave it up. But Northwest Arkansas is pretty cool.


It's a lot different. When I first came to Dallas from Northwest Arkansas and music festival.


Yeah.


The background noise, the traffic was just like but I got used to it.


Yeah. City life.


Yeah. Yeah, I like the city.


I like it though. Yeah.


There's there's more, more resources when you out in the middle of nowhere, there's nothing.


Mm hmm.


So you just big dudes, The Gathering of the juggalos.


Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Um But you get things like music festivals and stuff too. So what music festival we go into in Illinois? Okay.


I've been to three of them.


Okay.


Uh Uh huh.


Are they always this moment I said, are they always in Illinois or do they move around?


Well um the first time I went to an Illinois but they ended up canceling that contract they had and then uh I skipped 2013 and in 2014 I went and it was near columbus but just outside of columbus like in a rural area.


Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Uh huh.


But yeah, yeah, after that it was in columbus two more times and it went to Oklahoma City and that was a bust and then it ended up getting canceled this year because of the Corona. Uh They had a lot of top acts though.


Mhm. Like everything? Mhm.


I saw Gilbert, Godfrey brian co sane Cheech and Chong uh And like more rap acts than I could even name.


Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


And there's famous wrestlers are out of your body paper.


Mhm.


Was there Zaka zaka get laughing or no not.


Mhm. All right. Yeah.


Uh The one legged guy the rest used to wrestle on W.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


W. E. Like he was there uh Mick Foley uh Mick Foley wrestled in here and then the next year he told comedy his comedy wasn't that great but it was cool being there you know you know Mick Foley right Mankind.


Mhm. So that, sorry? Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


Actress Jack.


He's pretty interesting like it stand up wasn't funny it was just like entertaining stories. Like they didn't even have jokes really. Yeah it's crazy they're like especially in Illinois, Ohio kind of stole some of the life out of it because in Illinois cops weren't allowed on the grounds but if you left to go to the nearest Walmart, they tag you immediately in Ohio.


Uh huh. But I bet you got an interesting life doing that stuff. Get a lot of good stories like that.


The cops were all in the grounds and the first year they only arrested two people.


Oh yeah.


But the next year because they knew it wouldn't like resulting anything, they popped like 150 people. Uh But like back then it's crazy people would walk around with signs like LSD $2 and like uh like they just be advertising there's this dude standing on the bridge and he said I got cocaine and cocaine accessories step right up and it just screamed that that couldn't happen in Ohio uh near I believe it's called hats burger, hat handles, its southern Illinois on the banks of the Kentucky or the Ohio River.


Yeah. Where in Illinois was it? Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.


If you swim 10 ft out you're in Kentucky, it's a campground, some people call Hog rock and some people called Hog's Head.


Right. Yeah. Okay, yep. I know I know that area a little bit, wow.


but it's a cave in rock Illinois is officially the town, but there's no town. Uh if you drive for like 25 minutes, you can go to a walmart in some place called like Hapsburg or Hattiesburg or something like that. It got hit by a tornado that wal mart did like three years ago.


We we had water spouts in Chicago for the first time in years.


Did anything get messed up?


Just recently quarter. I don't think so.


Yeah, right.


Not nothing nothing major but you're not supposed to get them and they have the water. Right? Isn't that the whole point? I don't know you're prolific. Um You know I have this I grew up on the East Coast and then I lived mostly on the west Coast so I've always lived near water. So tornadoes are anything I know anything about?


I grew up in tornado alley Tulsa.


Who? Yeah.


Like when the tornado sirens go off where I come from, like most people go outside for a few minutes and then the kids get pushed in the bath tub with the mattress on them.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But uh but at first everybody just goes out and looking at the sky and then once you're a teenager you don't even go to the tub no more, you just stay out there and watch, it looks too scary. You go it and hope it don't hit you because there's no tornado shelters finish it always second.


Yeah. Well it's um I don't know I don't like tornadoes, you have to spend too much time worrying about them. Like I like earthquakes because they just happen and then they're done and you're either dead or alive, like you don't know, what did you say you broke up?


Yeah, the earth like just open up and you fall right in like, like that's like that's always the thought of, that's like kinda, you know.


But I think that's a very small, I mean you know the earth you feel it for hundreds of miles but the earth just opens up in a little crack so you know.


Right, right.


But yeah yep yep.


But you had a real big one though, like whole chunks come open and yes, maybe like one thing to keep in mind about tornadoes, if it's an E.


Um And we also got some group of hurricanes uh and those also just seemed annoying because I grew up far enough north that like they almost always went out to sea but we still have to prepare for them. So like we spent all like fall like putting stuff on our windows, taking stuff off our windows and they never came, I lost out.


F zero through an E. F. Three, you're pretty much good as long as you're not by windows even at a direct hit. But if it's an F four and F five, like if it's a direct hit, you're in big trouble, they do this thing.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well lot of it's just luck, you know, and you see the, you see the path that they take and you know this like this house is gone and this house looks like nothing ever happened right next to it or down the street or you know, mm hmm.


Some of the weatherman called skipping like a stone, it will be like mm I almost got hit by a tornado one time and it was rain wrapped so we didn't even see it and it ended up being an ef one I think with a direct hit in a car from it would have been failed.


Uh huh, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


But what happened, I was living out in Cleveland Oklahoma, which is just west of the western suburb of coal, so called Sand Springs.


Mhm. Mhm Right.


And I lived back a ways in the back road and I was with my mom and my wife at the time and we was driving back over down this long road And it started raining really, really, really hard.


Mhm.


Like we couldn't see anything and the car was like steady rocking and I kept saying just turn around.


It ain't worth it because we were going to Tulsa. It's like a 35 minute drive from there plus like 10 minutes on the background.


And so we're driving and I keep saying stop and finally like she does because I've been extra persistent.


Yeah. Thank you. Uh huh. Mhm.


Well the car rocks so hard because like this, well then it just stopped and the rain started off.


Mhm. Thank you.


We went on well on the way back where I was like telling it allowed us to stop if she had stopped there the tornado and went right through the fence and ripped them up and tore down some old sheds in some fields.


It was very, yeah. Mhm.


And like it could have been a direct check that car was rocking hard where we was.


Yeah. Yeah.


And it's like just 100 ft up from where I was like, uh, that's crazy.


Yeah. Yeah, certainly.


Yeah.


So you've been in Dallas like eight or 9 years, is that?


Yeah. eight years.


Mhm. It is. And you got one kid, is that what you said?


You said one boy or girl boy and uh is he going back to school or is he heaven you have to do that at home?


one okay boy. Second grader. Uh, we're doing the remote learning.


Uh huh. Was it a choice or did you did you are they the whole system doing it?


Yeah. Um, the first two weeks, they want everybody to do that and then it's a choice to go back. We figured we'd wait till after spring break because we figured blue season was probably going to be particularly hard this year. So after spring break, go back by the end, the virus will be going most likely if it's not then somebody do something drug.


Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people doing a lot of things wrong actually, unfortunately, but it just, you know, happens. So yeah, it's a mess. It's just a mess everywhere. Though.


Oh yeah, texas had a spike way later because they opened early.


You guys got hit pretty late, didn't you? Didn't did you start to see the big swelling cases much later than a lot of the rest of the country? Uh huh. Yeah. And where are you now? Are you back closed? Partially or partially or is it just still open? And most things?


Um we're like at 200 cases per day in Dallas. Um Everything's open except bars, although there's a few exceptions, if they serve more food than alcohol, they can reopen.


And is that? Um but are you, but what's open and what's not open or is everything open again?


So the world's biggest honky tonk reopened like a famous little spot in a fort worth.


Mm hmm. Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Um yeah, we opened our bars when we close them again, so, um but honestly it's just uh you know, it's just for lack of, but it just ends up getting boring.


Yeah, that's what happened here, theaters are still bones too.


You know, it's like you try to decide what to do in the evening and there's like well we could go to the one thing that's open but we can't really because everyone else in the city is going to the one thing that's open. So I don't know it all path. Yeah but in a lot of places they're reopening next week or the week after the movie.


Yeah. Hurt parks gonna reopen here in uh september even with this complication.


Uh Yeah and then all sorts of weird stuff you know like like some of the like Stephen something medical things like my dentist is still closed and I don't know that they have to be but like they're all like making their own decisions and Yes.


Yeah. Mhm. That happened here and it kind of messed me up a little while, but it ended up getting sorted out. Uh But what I found odd is that the water park has been open for a few weeks here even though like and like you can't really distance in a poll like you got crowded, they were one people or they were only letting like one person go up the steps from what I can tell though at a time like you can see it from the road like to the big slides I mean so that's kind of social distance in there but it was packed otherwise like.


Yeah. That's great. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Uh huh. Yeah. Well you you can't actually if you have a lot of people there and is it really crowded? Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like lots of places like the grocery stores all have like one way signs on every isle but like nobody's following them and so so you know and then uh how are they about masks down there?


Yeah. Yeah they're early enforcing uh legally um Stores though are somewhat uh was half and half like half people would wear a mask, half weren't the last few times I went to for like the last time I went I only saw one person without a mask and he was sitting on a bench looking all tired and I'm like damn but everybody else was wearing a mask at that time but I walked in a store and I have been texting somebody on the phone and I had my mask on but I had it down right here like on my beard.


They enforcing, are they not? Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Mhm. Mhm.


And I got all the way to the middle of the store before I realized it was on my beard, not my face.


Well yeah.


And no one had said that. I was like, so because that was security cop right there at the door to make sure you put your mask on.


Yeah. Yeah.


And sometimes if it's early enough in the day they have something, they'll just give you one right?


Yeah. Yeah, I was in the dollar tree not that long ago and uh some guy tried to come in with without a mask and they like there were people yelling at him, there are customers yelling at him, they're like the one cashier that they always have it every dollar tree because there's only one no matter what, no matter how many people are in the story seems like it's only like like she's busy yelling at him and like the stock everyone's yelling at him and he's like having a big fight and it's just like someone just hand this guy mask because like that would solve it.


Yeah, well thank you.


But yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Doesn't help. But I know, I think things will get back to I think will be surprised at how quickly some things get back to normal and then other things are just going to linger. So like I think big music festivals, those kind of things.


Right too expensive these days.


I think they're going to be some of the last things to come back.


Anyway, the price has gone up to like 2:25 a person.


Well, it's expensive and then if they have to add extra insurance and extra security around all this stuff to take care of it, it's going to up those prices even more.


Yeah, one of the bands, the headlines of the gathering every time I went, did this thing called Festival on your couch and it went from five PM until just after midnight or no, they did a pre show starting at noon and the real show started at five and it went all the way until just past midnight.


I don't know I mean, but at the same time, you know, it's kind of fun to, you know, you miss going out to see live music or live theater or live something, you know, I mean zoom really isn't just not the same, No.


And it had a little bit of everything like artists doing art, uh like comedians, acoustic guitar, a little bit of metal, a little bit of rap, uh some random comedy skits and like just cameos basically someone saying hi and hope you're safe and then they closed it out themselves, which is pretty cool, but like uh it was it's pretty fun and watchable, but it definitely was different from being around that many people.


Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What? All right. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, but they're still trying to figure out how to make it work, right. You know like the stuff I saw in april and May was way worse than the stuff some of the stuff people are doing now, you know? Because they're starting to figure out how to really do it, if they have to do it this way, how to do it well instead of just like, you know just kind of a guy bring it. So you have a Sorry go ahead.


I saw it. Uh What is it?


Yeah. No, go ahead you first.


Uh Oh, I saw this little video on Facebook go apparently there was this little mini festival that they did and they had the metal divider set up for who you came with and they split or like 10 ft.


Mhm. Okay. Uh huh.


And it's funny because it's like this whole big field or just these dividers and everybody in their little pins, What you got me?


Mhm. Uh We'll do the bars uh when the bars reopened, did they have for that time period did they have the like the glass in front of the bars? And like all the because like the bars here all had like plexiglass and all the bartenders were behind it, it's like going to a bank and you know, and then they had like the bars that never had tables would have like weird tables, this one for six people and this one for three people and you know you have to go sit by your table and you can take the mask off at your table, couldn't take the mask off when you were ordered a drink.


Mhm. Come on. And this, wait, it was it was like that here, like each, like a lot of places did it differently and there's still one place, this little, this little corner store up here that don't sell gasoline, They don't even require masks.


And yeah and in some places when they put up a lot of stuff like the employees don't, it messes with the employees so like they just kind of reach around or they do whatever and you know they like totally make ineffective anything that was put in place so.


None of the workers are wearing masks, but they do have a plexiglass thing set up with a cute little slots in it, you can pay, but some of the cars didn't put up lexi, some of them just operated as normal though. It thanks. Yeah, I went to Walgreens another day. They just have these plexi glass walls that they're very inconvenient so that like duck around them to give you your money because the things not place, like, it's basically just a plexiglass wall is kind of ridiculous, like, and it's like hard to hear them behind it.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah because they've got a marathon and they're behind it.


Yeah.


Mhm. Mhm. Uh Oh.


Um No, I was gonna say you have a ton of books behind you.


Uh Oh yeah.


Alright. Book some of them dvds maybe.


Um No, those are video games in this show right here.


Mhm. Uh huh.


Uh The rest are books.


Well is this the everything room?


Yeah, it's just the living room, uh my apartment, 880 square feet, so it's not like a lot of places to put stuff and with that uh I've been trying to declutter as much as possible.


Mhm. Right. Right. Yeah. It doesn't matter like you can have like a mansion and you still have no place to put anything.


Uh I need to get rid of some stuff, but like I've already got rid of most of my terrible books, I could probably get rid of about 15 of those, But I've read probably like 90% of them.


Uh huh.


Very poor gifts that I've just kept and you have no real interest in reading, right?


Mhm. Yeah. And then I have a hard time giving them away because I feel like I should read it sometime but then I never and I moved a lot uh and it was like this is bullshit having to pack all these books over and over and over again and then you're a reminder of winter there you get your frosty.


Yeah, but like that whole shelf right here, Stephen King, except for this part right there. But everything else is Stephen King. And uh there's a client barker and deacons look up. Uh Let's go. Uh Oh yeah, little baby baby.


Um wow, you've got everything covered if the tornado comes by it's gonna know it's some something some part of that must be true.


I got right there. I have like four by a car on behalf of Obadiah and the towel. Uh huh.


So it just will have to pass you by.


Uh I'm mostly playing roadblocks is like a At first all the kids were still playing out here and then we stopped letting him go out there and one of the other two of the other kids did.


Um So what uh what what's the what's the second grade I've been doing all summer has been? Yeah. Yeah.


They're still like six of them that was hanging out out in the courtyard here. And then finally like everybody just socially distance now and there's like, like we just say hi to each other, we see each other, but otherwise everybody just stays inside and let's just sit on the balcony.


Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


Uh No, we have a couple of cats and a ferret.


Do you guys have a dog? Well, but you don't walk those? What I was thinking about is, you know the problem is like dogs because I have a dog, I live in the city and they don't really understand social distancing, like they just understand sniffing another dog's butt. And so like you're trying to stay apart from the people, but the dogs just don't like that at all, so they're always trying to like get around you and get to the other dogs and meet the other people and it's like it's crazy.


Yeah. that uh no dead crates are full of books we intend to give away by the way. Uh And then there's a little bit of my son's school stuff on the top crate.


Yeah, I I still have like one milk crate from when I lived with my parents that's made it through like 35 years worth of moving. Uh still there, I put something in it, but you know it's funny. Um Yeah. Um So uh so you guys have had school started out there already, are you okay?


Yeah, it started monday went on a few walks, played a little Pokemon go uh He did get the jump once.


Did you get to do any summer stuff with the kid summer or? No? Mhm sadly. Uh huh.


Mhm.


But it's not a great summer for kids?


Yeah. Yeah, it's like you can play video games.


Yeah.


I watched off with him though, showed him a bunch of the old movies, we saw all the drastic parts and caught up on a drastic worlds and then uh in several of the Ernest movies uh um Come on this, I showed him a mortal kombat and I surprised he wasn't more excited about it because I like love that movie when I was his age because I was his age and I got so and the soundtrack was great, like it got me into electronic a little bit like it's still like one of my least preferred genres, but it got interested in the genre.


Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. Yeah mm. Really? Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Uh huh.


Little a long time.


Uh huh. So is it but you the game came out before the movie right? Movie was based on the game a lot of time, So you really playing the game, weren't you?


Yeah. Long time. Yeah.


Mm Yes, so I think that makes a difference because you go with that excitement already and you know what you know you have your characters and you have your sense of it and um uh Okay.


I'd already mean it. I had it yeah. Scorpion was already my favorite character before he is in the movie.


And uh is that is that you sign a big gamer?


Um He liked Roadblocks, he likes Minecraft, he likes the GPS games. Uh that's pretty much all he likes to play for the most part.


Yeah. Uh huh.


He likes the Fort and art toys, but he's not really a big fan of Fortnite itself.


Yeah uh my brother was like that with Star Wars back, You know when the when there was just Star Wars, so the first one, the second one and the third one actually out uh Yeah, whatever.


Yeah, the first one for the fourth, you know, anything expanded universe.


That's all bullshit, I do not believe in that at all. Um Yeah, I don't like when the rules change in the middle, so yeah, we don't want to be with you.


Like somebody actually delivers the story of Star Wars to George Lucas personally and that's how he knew to create it.


Really?


In the books that were in the expanded universe, it's all considered one.


Uh huh. Mhm.


And and now though, because of Disney Disney role wrote the entire EU as non canon.


Uh huh. Well, Disney does that sort of thing all the time. They love to take tradition and kind of make it Disney, have you taken him to either Disneyland or Disneyworld?


Uh, no, but we've gone to six flags, but as a wall, but is several years ago, so we barely remember that.


Thank you.


He was too small to write anything real cool.


Uh huh. Well, by the time this is over, he'll probably be just the right age to want to go to some very cool things and maybe the right height too.


Yeah, this is, yeah. Yeah, I think it probably be third grade before, but I don't know because he's already told for his age, so he might be told for some stuff, but I know you have to be, uh, I think you have to be 52" for most of the big rides and I believe he's like, he might be 52. Oh, no, no.


Yes. Well, you know, it's a as a kid, you can't wait, like, you know, I was so excited to get to that 52 or whatever the next thing is, like, I remember being really excited that I was taller than my grandmother, and then I realized she was like 54 for 10. Like it's not a big deal, You could do that in like third grade, but there's a little tiny woman. Uh Anyway, I think our buzzer has gone off, So if you I think 25 minutes, right?


Oh yeah, 25.


Yeah. So um I just wanted to let us know that because we uh I'm terrified of getting through 24 minutes of this and then not getting that damn morning and having to start all over again.


Right?


Is this the first matched or did you match it?


Mm. I did the last couple and I've done, this is actually the fifth time I've ever done it.


Mhm.


Uh, because you can only four times for cycle, but this is the news cycle.


Okay. Yeah.


So I got three no shows.


Uh huh. Yeah, I am. I did I did it on the last cycle, and then, and that took me three tries to get a full And this one this is my third try as well.


Uh, I got three no shows before I got my fourth one and didn't do them.


16. Mhm.


And finally, I got this one. So say you have a good time.


Mhm. Yeah. I was surprised at this one because the uh the first one was just it was like a technical nightmare. It's just like and then we couldn't tell what was on his side and it was on my side. And so like, we're both trying to fix things and you know, and he like, I'm like, I'm just gonna start to restart the computer, stay there. But I know you can't hear me and I know you can't really read this because it's not in magic marker or anything. And so anyway, but it's good to meet you and it's good that this actually works this time. All right. You too.


Okay, bye.


Yeah. Bye. Bye.


Yeah. Yeah. Oh no. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. All right. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm mm. Yeah. Wait Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Uh huh. Yeah, he's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Her four? Yeah.


Hello?


Can you hear me?


Hi, can you hear me?


Yeah, I don't know.


Hi, how are you? Not too bad. We're about I'm joe by the way.


Well Okay.


Where abouts are you located?


Mhm hm.


I'm joe by the way, whereabouts are you?


Yeah. Mhm. I'm in florida.


Yeah. All here in florida. Well I'm in the new york and mm mm.


Yeah. Okay. Uh huh.


Is this your first time doing this is one of these labs conversations.


Number. Yeah. Yeah, mm.


Yeah. How's your day?


It's good cal assurance.


Okay? Are you sorry?


How was yours?


Uh not too bad.


Yeah.


Just uh went out for some shopping and that's about it.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. You Yeah.


Yeah. What's the situation like?


Do you have to stay indoors for the in florida?


Mhm.


Like the whole covid situation there?


Yeah, we do stay indoors but I mean right now I went I came back to school so I'm on campus and we just know we just wear masks and stuff.


Oh. Oh. Oh so you're back, you're back on campus going to classes?


Oh well you might have asked. What are you studying?


Yeah. Mhm. I'm a biomedical science major.


Very cool. Very cool. That's good. That's uh actually they really need that now so yeah it's a good field to go into.


Yeah. Yeah.


Okay.


And you have classes going on monday to Fridays or just how does it work?


Yeah. Yeah. Um A lot of my classes are online.


Yeah, but I have um a lab, I have to go to have physics lab, but the way I made my schedule I have Mondays and Wednesdays off so I just have Tuesday thursday friday with classes mm.


They're all oh what? Oh this schedule is not too not too heavy.


Yeah.


It's not too bad.


You have to it is it far for you to get to get to your lab?


No no I live I live in dorm from the dorm so I just yeah it's not too bad.


We get to the campus. Oh you live in dorms. Ok. Okay. So that's easy. Mhm.


Mhm. Mhm.


Anything fun? Uh You do any fun for the sunday?


Yeah. Yeah not really.


What's left of the weekend?


I'm going over my syllabi and my work schedule.


Oh you also have to work?


Mhm. Yeah.


What do you what do you do for I guess part time?


Writing and doing part time.


Yeah I'm doing part time. I recently got hired for it. I'm just um um an I. T. Assistant like for the I. T. Team I'm just pay system okay for campus.


Oh so like uh it's I support like computer software, stuff like that.


So yeah basically if teachers have issues like tech technical issues that can help or get help for them.


Yeah but it sounds like a interesting job, you know when the interested. Right?


Yeah it's money.


It was of course first.


Okay so whatever.


Yeah. No. And how about for the rest of the evening he was going to wind down and kill like virtual or like you actually get together?


Mhm. Yeah I made plans to watch something with my friends but like netflix party kind of style. Not necessarily enough this party but it's similar. Yeah we're gonna there's like on the website we watch it on they have a watch party so we go to the watch party and as we're watching on the watch party we like Facetime.


Right okay. It's a virtual Catholics.


Yeah.


And he picked up you know what where they're showing or you guys have to pick it?


Not yeah okay. Um They decided like we decided to watch it but like the website decides what to have as a watch party. That makes any sense.


Oh okay.


Like we already already watched the show or we're just gonna watch it on the watch part again.


So maybe you probably see, so it's something you've seen before.


Yeah. No it's a new it's a new episode. Mhm.


Okay. That's just sensible.


Yeah. Mhm.


Yeah. You guys like uh watch it and then chat or just watch it, Everyone's like silent watching it.


Right forms you know we watch and talk as you're watching it like oh this happened Pablo blah.


Yeah, that's me and I never I never done so I know nothing about Oh yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's fun. Nothing party is a little more difficult because you have to like type out your responses on your laptop. So Yeah, I'm not surprised.


Oh you can't you can't speak or there's no voice.


Yeah, I know you just type out your comments, same thing with the watch party. That's why we Face Time so we can talk it's easier.


No. So you do your own face Time? Okay.


Yeah, we do our own, we do the watch party on the laptop and unfazed title on the phone.


Oh what the fuck? Mhm. Yeah, I gotta try one of those myself.


Mhm Yeah, it's fun.


Yeah.


Something to do because hanging out isn't really easy right now.


Yeah. Is it getting better for you guys or what I Yeah.


I have no idea. I felt so I just know that we're just all kind of like uh you know, make sure we all got negative tests and we just still social distance wear mask all that.


I hope it's getting better.


Uh huh. Yeah, I mean you gotta wear about so you don't wear the best, you know, it puts people put you at risk and you know you put people at risk.


Come on. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm, mm that's good.


It's just yeah, not not he's not that smart to not work. Yeah. Yeah. And new york, we've kind of gotten better since March where we don't have like situations like Callie, but uh yeah, no one's back in the office. Yeah, everyone's just kind of working from home still, so that's how it is. Oh, do you have any friends friends up in new york?


Um my grandparents live in new york and my cousin and my uncle, my family lives there.


Oh, okay. So you visit to visit?


You know my dad's from new york, he's from queens, Hollis quotes.


I can no. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm in queens myself. So And you're just so you're you originally from queens and your study in florida?


Mhm Yeah, no, I'm from florida. My dad is from queens, but when he married, my mom, they moved here.


Uh huh. Okay, get back.


So I was born in florida.


Uh huh. Right. Well, whether it's a lot nicer so yeah, it's just really bad.


Yeah, that's what they moved. It was cold. My mom is from a country where it doesn't get cold. So yeah.


Yeah, florida makes. I've never been to florida, so. Yeah, sure, sure.


Oh well it's warm. They called assumptions state, but the weather is honestly bipolar.


Yeah, like you mean it gets cold or hot water, Michael?


So yeah, no, basically it's like you'll think it's like really sunny, like it's going to be really sunny. It's just gonna rain all week.


Oh, you got a lot of meat? Okay.


Yeah, it's not always sunny.


Mhm.


So it's rather than it being sunny, it's just very humid sticky.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah.


It's like, yeah, I would say California is probably better uh weather wise, but oh, it happens.


Yeah. Go so one so arranged I guess people just stay indoors.


Yeah.


They don't really go out.


Yeah, when the rains would just stay inside.


Mm Yeah.


Yeah. We get rain too. But I don't know. Probably not as much as for them, this is the worst.


I mean during the summer you would think it's more sunny, but that's one is like the worst.


So the winner is actually wants the best. Right?


Yeah, it's okay.


Oh yeah, Yeah, Yeah.


I mean it's just cold because I'm from Florida. So when it's like under 60, I'm like, oh, it's cold even though it's not that cold to others.


But if you consider like 50 forties okay on occasion.


Oh, right, right.


Because like, Okay, so like in Christmas time will either be like starting to become winner, so starting to become 50s or will be really hot like 90°.. So it depends, right?


Yeah, I'll take 4050 any day over.


But if you will take that, then you're good for me. I'm just shivering for us.


Yeah, It's for you guys. Okay. Let's see. It gets too cold for you.


It's cold for other people. It's like, oh my God, it's warm, it's good weather. I don't know what's wrong with you, and I'm like, well I'm cold, I'm used to 100 degree, I'm used to 90, I'm used to 80.


Yeah. And I Oh, And we had a heat wave like in July three weeks, like every day is like 90 close to 100.


Its second.


Yeah. Look real.


Yeah.


But for you, I guess that's, that's like, wow.


Yes. Yeah, it's just it's just hot.


Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Well, are you gonna what? You're what you're you and you're going to graduate soon or?


Uh Yeah, next year I'm a junior.


Mm hmm. You, do you watch any of the, we call it the N C double A stuff for you? Partaking in any of that? The sports for first school.


No, I don't do much.


No, no, you don't do anything. Mhm.


I mean I did like I was on the dance team um and I try to join some clubs, but right now joining clubs is like, besides, yeah, I should really do stuff.


Okay. Oh. Mhm. Yeah. It's not gonna work. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.


I mean I volunteered but I want to do more, but it's like it's kind of difficult now.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And how it's gonna be a while before you can, you know, go back to clubs and do stuff with people.


Yeah. Yeah. Uh You hang out at the beach very often. Everyone, it doesn't rain.


Okay. No, I'm actually not a beach person.


Yeah. Hi. Yeah. Each person, Right?


Yeah, I mean during the summer I'll go like every now and then if my friends want to, but not really going to the beach on my own.


You prefer like, like shopping at the mall or something like that?


I mean, I think I go to the mall more than I go to the beach, but I'm just like an inside prison so I'll stay home a lot.


Okay. Oh, okay. So like when you stay home, you just kind of read and watch some shows.


Mhm Yeah. Netflix is there for a reason?


Uh huh.


Oh yeah.


Listen, what? I would have been watching daily on netflix.


Uh I've been watching, I've been watching the game, I've been watching Legend Akora. I finished avatar, I watched Malaysia and then we'll recently I went to Honolulu so then I've been watching big Time rush and like living single. So yeah, I have, you know who netflix and Disney plus because you need variety in your life.


What? Also there's different, different, different shows on who? Right. Yeah. What? Uh It's a lot.


It's a lot and I barely use it, but hey.


Oh yeah, mm Mando Gloria.


Yeah, I know Disney plus for a while people were catching the Mandalorian, Right? That was that was a big hit. Yeah. It's stopped. It's like Star Wars character.


Oh, you see Yeah, yeah.


No, no, thanks.


Yeah, I'm there for like old Disney channel shows.


One.


Yeah.


What by the movies?


Or like the movies. Yeah.


They got new movies like?


Mhm.


Um I know they're really seeing like some of the superhero stuff on Disney Plus.


Mhm Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Did you did you come across any more like uh was one of them like Falcon.


Yeah. Yeah.


Falcon was a character that they had his own show.


Yeah, I think I've heard of it.


I'm actually, you know, I'm really bad with superheroes because I'm not into those either. No, I'm like, I think the only superhero like was like, what?


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


Like Spiderman and like Iron Man and Black Panther and then yeah, I think that was it.


Was that okay?


Oh yeah, you are.


Yet I don't really like to where I was like, I don't even watch Avengers, my friends be judging me, but I'm like, I don't like it. I'm sorry. I used to like Iron Man because he's just really likable besides that.


Oh yeah. To the old, the old Disney is like, you're like Lion King, you are watching or we'll be watching Hi.


Try my king. Yeah. I did watch on cake. I was watching if I was thinking about movies because I was watching like kim possible and like just shows I was watching like raven zack and Cody was just a really plays bad stuff.


Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


But like movie wise, I did watch linking both animated and animated. I put on a latin for my mom, but I didn't even watch it and then I think I'll watch him along because I love Milan favorite princess.


Yeah. Uh huh Uh huh. Well, on your house and Yes.


Yeah. Oh yeah, live action, Milan is supposed to be coming, but you have to pay for it.


Yeah.


So I was like, I'm like, well already paid like, well I share the plan on my friends, we bought the yearly one.


Yeah. All you have to pay extra for that. Okay, that sucks. Right.


So okay, we feel like 23 ish dollars and we were like, okay, great.


Oh yeah.


But now I've got to pay for Milan like dang.


Oh yeah. You already paid for what? You need to pay more so they get you.


I guess it's kind of like paying for pay per view type thing.


Yeah, that's how they get you.


Mhm, mm.


Nobody. Yeah, that's next.


But yeah, I mean yeah.


You're watching you those reality or Yeah, those reality shows like.


Mhm Reality shows I wanted to watch uh what is that 1?


Mhm. Okay.


Love is blind or something? Was that love is blind? I wanted to watch out but I just kept on watching videos of people watching it instead, but I started watching Terraced House but I didn't get to deepen.


Uh huh. Yeah.


Yeah.


Uh huh. I saw I saw some of the Love Loveless.


Mhm. Yeah, yeah, mm.


Loveless blowing and I think there's this other one with on the island.


Mhm. Love Island maybe, yeah, yeah.


I forgot the name of that love island. They're trying to yeah, I think it's like trying to match match them or they're trying to grow as a couple.


Mhm. Mhm.


I forgotten it was Washington effort.


Mhm Yeah, it might be Love Island, I know my friend watches that and she talks about it and they're like oh yeah they're just doing all sorts of stuff and they're just there and I'm like okay mhm.


Oh yeah. So yeah. Software. The reality shows.


Yeah reality shows, I think my reality show person, yeah, I think I watched The Bachelor back when it was a big thing, I mean I feel like it's still like a thing for people, but I don't know there was a point in my life where I was like, oh the Bachelor.


But no. Yeah. Mhm.


But anyway.


Yeah. Anyway, do you prefer like drama?


Mm but I did watch are you the one when that was on MTV.


All right, wow.


But yeah, I do like, you know, I like dramas.


Yeah. I don't you like Oh yes.


I do. Yeah. Yeah. Or just like, I don't know just nostalgic things like comedies. Like sitcoms, family sitcoms. Because the only other reality tv show I watch is like catfish.


Catfish. What's that? What's that about?


Mm hmm You don't know catfish, it's like, you know what a catfish is, right?


Right. Ah I don't want to go. Yeah.


Not the animal, the animal. But like you know when someone catfish is you?


Yeah. Oh and someone catfish is here.


Yeah. Yeah.


Yeah.


So basically they use someone else's picture like maybe like a dating app or something like on Tinder and they talk to you for a while and you start getting feelings and then you realize that's not the person you're talking to.


Oh, what? Well? Oh that's that's Catfish.


That's a cat fishing. Yes. Catfishing.


So basically catfish is like a person that's trying to figure out who their catfish is and the people, like the host of the show basically help them find them and are able to talk to them like the catfish er cafe.


Yeah. Yeah. Oh catchy.


She that's what you would call it. But yes.


Okay.


And this reason with half fishes.


How about this? Then they all live in like an apartment, like in one building and then they talk to each other by voice.


Mhm Yeah, it's like it's not even like it's just mm how would I even relieve?


That catfish Uh huh. Hold it.


This is just like one, It's like a new person. Each episode each, each episode, someone will send in like a letter and email saying, hey I'm being cat fished, help me and then the host will help them.


Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.


And that's the show.


Okay. Yeah. I wanted, I never gave myself.


You watch an episode.


Yeah, I know.


See what happens.


Those are netflix. Catfish.


This one is on Hulu. I'm pretty sure you can see clips of it on Youtube.


Okay. I don't have.


They have interesting hat fishes because they're funny sometimes.


Yeah. Yeah, I'll check it out. Check it up.


Mhm Yeah, I'm in shock.


I never heard the term, so I don't figure to check it out. See what Oh well, the thing is with winter, I've I've only used it like so briefly and I never used it again.


I guess you just never been catfish. You're lucky. Yeah.


So what?


Oh, I just, I read in a little tender every now and then I just go, uh, just when I'm born.


Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I just don't use any, like for the longest time.


Mm Yeah.


So yeah, I guess so. It happens a lot of people getting catfish on Tinder, wow.


It's pretty common just on dating sites or apps. Um, I think it's common. I don't know if I've ever been catfish because I never really, I never go deep in, but who knows?


I, because once I, once I was in a relationship, I pretty much stop using any of posts.


Cool. No, makes sense.


Right.


Yeah.


Mhm.


Mhm. Mm.


Check on.


Uh huh.


How about uh oh, what's, what's the deal with it?


Well, no, I saw Tiktok and I was like, this is not divine.


Are you on Tiktok as well or that's getting banned? Why? No?


I don't want it in my life. I don't need her.


I did don't want to talk once though because it was just like, I was really bored and I was like, that's interesting.


Yeah. Uh huh.


And then I deleted it.


Right. So you just watch people post videos, Right? That's all it is picked up.


Yeah. They either do some dance or they have like some P LVs or something or various things. It's very serious.


Uh huh. It's just like uh huh.


It depends on how much google has given Tiktok your information and then they filter it for you. So it depends on what you get.


Right.


Everyone's page is different.


Yeah. Okay.


Mm Really cool.


It was like another, I guess it's like a video version of a I. G. Mhm.


Yeah. It's like I g um, you don't remember vine our musical?


Oh, vine. No, never use I'm I'm from a different, I'm for a different generation here, so yeah.


Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I could tell it's okay. I mean vines?


Okay.


Really? Because I was using vine in middle school. So, but vine is basically the same thing. They're just like vine was more comedy. Tiktok is more like there's comedy, but then there is like dancing and then there's just like, you know, points of views. There's different things there.


Yeah.


So it's more variety.


So if if someone is not so good at dancing there on it, like do they get a lot of people watching their stuff?


Yeah, because you don't have to dance. You could just like, you know, be good looking and just look at people on the camera and use a filter or just do some transitions and then you can get some followers, you know, you find out what you're good at and you'll be fine.


Um Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Yeah, be good looking on any of those apps, be okay.


You don't even have to be, I mean it just depends on what you're good at because if you're a good dancer but ugly, it works.


Which company? Sure. Okay.


He works just different parts, different parts.


You one day, so you're big on, so you're not being picked off, I guess you're big in I. G. And anything else jesus?


Yeah. I mean I'm on twitter a lot. That's just because twitter is just a great place for comedy.


It is mm.


Okay. Yeah. I feel like I get my news. It's like my morning newspaper. I wake up, I go on twitter. I'm like, that's nice. Whatever is happening on twitter at least for yeah, because I am on instagram but like I think I've just like toned down being on instagram because it's been a lot like, I don't know how your instagram be looking like, but might be yes, the elderly's the opens, you know, I made a facebook when I was in the fifth grade.


To get a good luck. Get a good laugh. Yeah. Oh no. Yeah. Oh not too much I guess facebook is now for like uh hidden. Yeah it really is right. It kind of got, yeah I noticed that like it's just so where did he?


I was 10 years old because that's when it was popular.


Yeah that's right. That's right. And I guess you stop using it like once your parents.


I stopped using it. No, my, my parents found it and I sent him a friend request and he became my friend on facebook and then one day he said go to bed when I was on facebook late and that was interesting.


Oh good move.


But my dad still uses it, but I have deactivated mine. So, but like no one's on it anymore except for my parents want my parent because I made my mom's facebook and she never used it because yeah, because it's like, I don't know if you, your parents use what's up?


Yeah there's no fun. Okay. Yeah it's really like the elderly is now used it more than we do. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Is that as well? Yeah.


Yes. So me and my friend, we have this thing called WhatsApp propaganda where I don't know if this is your parents, but they'll get like, your parents will hear things from WhatsApp from either relatives or friends and then they'll say to you and you're like, that doesn't make any sense.


Oh wow. Uh huh. What's that properly?


Call, what's that propaganda?


Uh huh.


Such as when Covid came and your parents are like, you need to drink this. You need to see this. You need to do this. You need to do this. They said the Corona will get, it would be done. Just do this. Now look at this paper. Look at I was like, oh, that is what, what's that propaganda is?


Yeah.


And that's also on facebook.


So that's why I'm like facebook.


What?


The elderly's have that. Now they have the bad memes on there.


Right so it's giving you the same thing? Okay.


It's it's dry struck.


True. Yeah. Okay. I think we're our thing right? 25 minutes.


I'm fine.


Yeah. Okay. Does it was nice talking to you but you have a great weekend?


Yeah. 2nd to use your own You two time.


Presley weekend take care.


Oh yeah. Yes. Yeah. Welcome. What? Yeah wow. Yeah. Good morning mm.


Hello.


Hi everyone, I can hear me okay Fantastic.


Yeah yeah. Yeah.


New headphones.


Okay sure.


Oh my God, what's next to meet you? Hi and give us the specific topic to talk about right, but they give us some extra profit to pop provinces.


Hi. Uh huh. What's that? Okay mm. No it's kind of interesting and we're just kind of like yeah you're gonna you know uh you meet someone and yeah chat for 25 minutes there you go.


Yeah. Yeah this is actually the second time that I've done this one and it's pretty cool to get to meet people.


So yeah oh well does you know it is what it is it's uh you know just trying to deal with it on a day by day basis I guess all things considered I'm in Seattle it's not too awful I guess you know I mean it's yeah it's it's uh in comparison to other places I guess you know relatively speaking I guess it's not too bad so but not great.


So how's quarantine been treating you? Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. What have you been up to do it like has it affected your work? Have you just been staying home?


Yeah. Uh No not I mean not really it hasn't affected my work. I've been working uh only working from home for about four or five years now so that hasn't changed in any way. So that routine pretty much stayed the same. So I haven't really had any huge impact on me.


Yeah take it easy.


You know just trying to minimize the number of times obviously going out or going shopping or doing anything like that. Um but you know, still being able to manage and get to go outside, we live in a quiet neighborhood, so get to go out and walk around and stuff and what not and whatever.


Mhm mm.


So it has a massive impact. It's just been weird obviously, and it's just been kind of, you know.


Yeah.


Yeah, so, oh I do work on metadata, so I do it on a freelance contract basis, uh work on projects for various companies or related to processing and managing metadata in some way or categorizing um um um uh content in some way, so Oh, well, it it depends.


Yeah. What do you do that you can work from home with? Okay. How exactly do you do that? Like what program do you use if I can ask?


I mean um for um some of the projects that I work on and work on a platform and application that the company has, um they didn't know they already have a system um in house and it's just really looking into their system and and working through that if it's something else like um I will do the work.


Yeah. Have you ever, Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


It's a data analysis project um depending on the source of the data.


Yeah. Yeah.


Um I'll use different types of tools, I'm kind of old school um so I'll try to convert things um into um SQL format and use access um which is an old program but it works really, really well for me and generally I'm able to kind of work with that and uh manipulate that or using uh analyzer tools that are kind of a commonly commonly available.


Mhm. Yeah. Right. Your company? Okay. Mhm. This is mhm. Yeah. Yeah that's really cool.


So, so stuff like that.


So I did something actually very similar with matt lab.


Um Gosh, I mean, you know, it's it's I suppose these abuse um primarily, you know, so that um you can kind of jump in and kind of figure things out.


I worked in a lab and did some of that data analysis with all of it. So what is exactly the difference, like what do you like about those different programs that you're using? Mhm. Oh.


Um So so for example, I mentioned access and I've been using it for for a long, long, long time and I kind of learned that on my own kind of kind of kind of trial by fire kind of kind of thing, but it was relatively um intuitive and you could figure things out, um you know, without too much difficulty being able to, you know, go online, look at resources or what not to use their help functions and so on and so forth.


Mhm. Mhm. You know, Except Mhm.


Um so so that, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of a big deal to be able to kind of, you know, figure out what you need to do and what not or whatever without too much, too much too much difficulties.


Yeah. Mhm. Okay.


Yeah, I guess that's the main thing, I suppose, you know, so uh yeah.


Yeah. How did you get into that? So you said that you've been freelancing for the past five years?


Uh Oh gosh, that's a complicated question, that kind of thinking, it's really for me it was really kind of ad hoc.


What did you major in to get to that? What did you start out with to transition over? Oh really? Your own rights?


Um um So I mean going all the way back, I mean in terms of how I actually got into uh data work and and what not, it was almost accidental.


Yeah.


Um I had been working um for a record retail uh company and um we used to use the system and in the house inventory management system that had um data analysis capability.


And this is a long time ago, by the way, so, you know, kind of kind of in the early, early, early days of the of the of the internet, but it was interesting and, you know, I kind of was kind of interested in and uh fascinated by it, and then as it turns out a lot of folks um left that that directive, retail business and started going into companies start ups and so on, and I had an opportunity to go into one.


Mhm. The I was like, yes.


I'm nothing like I said, I mean, I I don't even think I had a computer at that time when I started working for this company, so just kind of learned, as I said, learned by doing out of out of necessity um no formal training.


Mhm.


Um you know, I took a couple of course is here and there, you know, but no real, yeah, I don't have a degree or anything.


No. Oh, that's awesome.


Uh Mhm.


Like the fact that you're able to do that without even needing a degree, like you got in on the ground floor. That's so cool.


Yeah, I mean parts, I mean part of it is, look, I mean, I happen to be at the right place at the right time and happen to be in the circumstances that allowed me to be able to kind of really learned this kind of hands on, which is great um and learned from a lot of folks, you know, and what not developers and engineers and and stuff that I was working with, that just happened because they have been very fortunate to have landed in this environment where I had the opportunity to kind of like I sort of learned and apply it kind of on our hands on basis so that just kind of you know grew and developed so um when I was still in the corporate world, all the roles that I was involved in, work was working with and managing teams that were doing this type of work, metadata, content, work and what not and whatever, so it just kind of continually kept learning and kept, you know, just just be a experience and so on and so forth.


Okay. Right. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.


When about five years ago, as I said, you know kind of made an exit from the corporate world, um I was fortunate in having, you know, I made a lot of contacts and you know new folks and what not and whatever and so there were things available to be able to work on on a freelance basis, so kind of you know, very flexible on my own time, which perfect what I wanted um at at that time.


And so I kind of just kind of naturally grew and developed, you know, again it wasn't really like a plan, I'm going to go out now and I'm gonna market myself and create a web page and do all this kind of stuff like that kind of that kind of you know, just kind of just kind of some what happened and uh so yeah, yeah, so it just just kind of like I said, you know, unfortunate that you know, opportunities have been there, like I said, a good contacts and um yeah, so just just just just you know, hopefully hopefully to keep going.


Mhm. Thank you for responding. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm.


So, Yeah, well, again, like I said, I mean, you know, we we go into my, my my my my first exposure with computers was in uh 1970.


That's really something that I've noticed a lot with like people like even with my dad and such like really getting into computers. They never really started out with it. Especially when it was like 90s, early 2000s when it wasn't super popular and now it's a thing it's like your whole thing. Have you like noticed it completely being your thing and you never saw this coming? Yeah. Mhm.


Um I was in high school and we had uh but the high school and it was, it was set up a computer program.


Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.


Um and so I was fortunate to.


Mhm. Yeah. All right don't worry about it. I'll tell you about after.


Yeah.


All right.


Mhm.


Sorry I'm living back home so I just literally moved back from college.


Mhm. Mhm. Oh. Oh my goodness, wow.


Yeah. Yeah.


When you go to college, ma, no, I'm from new york originally, well, we'll see this little about uh years ago.


U. G. A. Of course I'm from Georgia and I've noticed you have a little bit of an accent. Have you always grown up in the same area? Did you move here? No, I figured I figured that was the accent.


No, no, no, it's okay, No Seattle.


I'm so bad with accents. I really am. Oh my gosh, that is so cool. So what made you move to Portland? You said? Right Seattle. All right, right Mr mhm.


Yeah. Um so so what, I actually actually ended up being a work opportunity um um I had, I had made a couple of trips out to Seattle and actually had made a trip as a family to Seattle and liked it a lot. Um and then um, shortly thereafter an opportunity came up for a job out here and kind of convened with the family and said, what do you think we want to, you know, make make a big move like that. I think we were all kind of ready to, you know, to, to make to make a move. Um, and yeah, they were all on board and uh, so we just kind of Upton and, and went, so they're kind of singing in a casual way. Obviously, you know, people are like, well, that's kind of a big deal, right? You know, new york all your life, you just kind of get up and move all the way to the other side of the country. Yeah, I guess so. But you know, it was exciting for us and like, we just thought as a new opportunity and uh, and like I said, going to a place that is really kind of cool, kind of fun.


Yeah. Okay.


So yeah, gosh, you know, I mean, in terms of the actual city Seattle is a small city uh you know, I think what the population, I don't, I don't even think it's a million people uh here where new york, what, it's over eight million people.


What's the biggest difference between the two of you could compare them? Mhm. Mhm. Okay. What? Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.


So the sculpt density, the vibe, the whole, it's very different.


Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.


This is obviously that very Northwestern vibe.


It's, you know, much more, well at least it was seven years ago when we moved out here, you know, much more laid back, you know, much more, much more calm.


Mhm. Yeah, mm.


Um um yeah, so, so, so, so the pace and the, and the, and the, and the overall vibe was very, very different both of them in terms of culturally and both in terms of, like I said, physically, the scope of the city and whatnot and whatever. So so very very very different you know?


Yeah.


Um So but at the same time it still was a city with a lot of you know culture um a lot of you know activity. There was you know very vibrant um city.


Wonderful dr Mhm.


So it's still kind of had that energy you know? Um So a little bit different flavor I guess to new york, but it still had you know like I said that that that that that energy so it wasn't like that much of a drastic difference where it was like whoa you know like I moved to a farm or something, you know kind of kind of thing.


Right, okay.


So yeah.


Yeah. So you said that you grew up in new york, like this is new york city that you grew up in.


Um My Brooklyn but.


How was that? I'm a suburbs kid like my whole life. It blows my mind that you could just like walk to the store on your own. Like that's still a 20 minute bike ride for me, you know?


Uh huh. Oh I see, I see. Yeah I guess so.


You know I mean it's like anything else and you know I never really thought about it was what it was, right?


Mhm.


I mean, that's that's what, that's what you grew up with and what not and whatever.


So yeah, suburbs for me, we're kind of a foreign and strange thing. You know, my first exposure to it and we eventually actually did, you know, kind of move, move, move to suburbs, you know, way, way, way later on. But you know, um yeah, you know, it's like anything else. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's good and it has its advantages and so on. But you know, on the other hand, it, yeah. You know, it's like anything else. So I don't know. I don't know. So Oh, good Lord.


All right. Well this is going to be such a dumb question, but I ask everyone that I meet this, what is your favorite childhood memory like just first thing that pops out your absolute favorite. Yeah, I'm just a talker.


That's a great question. Should I should have prepared myself.


I'm one of those weird people that like even if I go to get my tires rotated, I talked to the people sitting in the waiting room, it's awful.


I'm a chatterbox disgusting.


I think the thing actually so the purposes because I'm not so so that that would've, that would've been interesting and awkward.


Yeah. Yeah.


You know, if it was someone like me trying to fill up 25 minutes, so this works out well.


Yeah.


Favorite childhood memory. Gosh! Um she whiz.


Um well while I'm trying to think of that, what you tell me yours since it's kind of your question, I'm gonna throw it back at you.


Right. Yeah. See it's just I don't remember a lot of my childhood.


Mhm. Mhm, mm.


I have a really bad memory, which is one of the reasons why I like asking other people about it.


Mhm. Yeah, yeah.


You know, it's like a connection to my own. I've it sparks other things like Mhm.


Uh you know, so kind of related to you to what we were talking about, your question about, you know, like I said me growing up in Brooklyn and kind of growing up in that very much city environment and what not and what was that like and whatever and so kind of you know the same thing, I'm much older than you, so my childhood memories go away, we're further difficult to pull out.


Mhm. Yeah.


But one thing that I remember vividly was first time um and it must have been a school trip or a class trip was an elementary school and they took us to Prospect Park. I don't know if, you know, Brooklyn at all, or you know, uh what Prospect Park is kind of the equivalent almost a Central Park in in in Manhattan, it huge park, beautiful, beautifully landscaped.


Uh huh. Okay.


I think Prospect Park was an Olmstead Park, similar to to to to Central Park, but but it's it's huge and it's beautiful and I had never seen anything like that, I just remember the grass and how green it was and because again, I lived where we lived, there was very little grass, very few trees, um very urban, um you know, a lot of cement and concrete and you know, you played in the street uh and and stuff, so I was just like, wow, it's just like holy cow, you know?


Yeah. Mhm And see, and now I can I can bounce off of that because I can now remember that one of my favorite memories was like one of my birthday parties that I had when I was really little.


Uh So yeah, I remember that pretty, pretty, pretty vividly self, it ties into what we're talking about, so there you go. Mhm. Mhm, mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's just that I don't know.


We had this whole entire survivor party. it was fantastic. My parents have always been so crazy about like doing the birthdays really well, it was always so amazing, like all the friends and it was at the park.


Yeah. Oh cool. Okay. Yeah.


I mean it's just it's weird little things like that, it's weird being back home because I passed that park when I was heading on the way back in, you know?


Mhm. Uh Sure, sure.


Yeah.


Yeah, interesting and interesting. So I want to see something because so you said you've done one other of these types of calls, same format where there was no no agenda, no no topic, no nothing just kind of jump in and what not interesting because I've done um I'm not that many, I've done a couple of them, but the ones that I've done did have a a structure.


Mhm, mm, mm.


One interesting one that I did was paired me up with someone. And first um I was kind of briefed by the moderator um in terms of what the topic was.


What?


You know, you filled out your little survey what based on that came up with a with a with a topic and had specific instructions in terms of how to conduct myself during the conversation we would find nothing a topic where I had one particular point of view and my conversation partner apparently had the opposing view.


Really?


We were supposed to talk about that and I was told to be very um polite and very appreciative of my conversation partners point of view and kind of say it and be very you know kind of what not and whatever.


Oh look, Mhm, Mhm.


What I didn't know going into the conversation is my partner had opposite set of of instructed so I'm having a conversation with him and I was saying gee I appreciate your point of view and I thank you for telling me that and thank you for bringing that up to me and what not you know kind of really going all the time. And he on the other hand was like really abrupt and really and I'm like whoa dude what you know what happened?


Didn't you get to you know didn't you get the instruction? And then afterwards found out that no he had gotten a different set of instructions. I wo okay so so interesting. Like I said how they set up that kind of whole whole whole scenario. So so that was that was interesting. And then the only other one I did, you know just a round about way of me coming around to it. So you know me thinking about it, I said I'm not good in uh in social situations where I meet somebody new in terms of you know trying to come up with conversation or interesting things to say what I think um and you know and I'm like you know what I mean?


Mhm. Yeah.


You know, so what are we gonna do? We're gonna do the whole generic thing, hi, what do you do, where you're from? Like, you know, whatever. That's good. But I'm more fascinated by the mechanics and the logistics of it, in other words. So I'm fascinated by people like you who are able to meet someone and start talking about stuff, you know, and and hold a conversation where I'm like after I'm, yeah, here's what I do, I'm done.


Uh huh.


You know, I have nothing, I'm thumped is what else to say. So I'm fascinated by that. Um, and so to me, like I said, you know, the, the, the logistics and the mechanics of this. I just got automatically started thinking, well, what are these researchers kind of really trying to get at here? You know what not?


Mhm.


Um, you know, if if I think about it, I'm like okay why am I doing this? Well, I'll be honest, I'm doing it because it seems like an easy way to make a few bucks, you know, uh chat with somebody for 25 minutes and I'm done. You know, I'm not looking to make a connection necessarily conversation great if I don't whatever, you know?


Yeah. Mhm.


And so they must obviously know that, you know? And so it's like yeah, what do they gain from it? And I'm sure, like I said, there's so much more involved in it and so much more, you know, like I said, I mean in terms of what they're, you know, kind of how they're approaching it that, you know? But but I'm kind of fascinated by it. So anyway. Sorry, I what?


Oh no, no, me too. I could literally talk about the different variables that I think they're looking at right now, I think they're looking at the percentage of how each people talk about.


If they maintain eye contact, they smile or if they not along and then they might even be cross referencing it based on your guided conversation where you were told to be polite versus where you weren't given any instruction here which would be so interesting.


Yeah. No. Right.


Like it's such an interesting study.


You know how people communicate and whatnot.


Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Yeah, I get it. Like I said, you know me, I was just trying to, you know, and like I said, I was a little surprised at first when it was like yeah, just start chatting, but then I'm like, no, okay, because that's a you know, that's the thing obviously, and yeah, if someone like me who's fascinated by people that can do it and want to understand it well, this is how you do it, right?


Mhm. Oh yeah I'm not gonna lie.


Yeah. You observe people and see, you know, how they how they go about it and to understand that. And the difference is, like I said, between different personality types and what not and whatever. So yeah, it's pretty it's pretty it's pretty wild um Right, right.


I also think they're testing about how often we talk about current events and such, especially when we're stuck in the house. You know? Of course we're going to start the conversation with Covid like how can you not?


I which is interesting to like I said, when you when you put that in perspective where, you know, if you if you think about this kind of a thing in quote unquote normal times, right, whether it's not something like that going on, then it becomes a little bit more of a challenge, but obviously you don't have that ready made.


Mhm. Is that, mm.


You know, hey, Covid, right? You know what we're going to talk about it? Um if you don't have that, then all of a sudden it's like, well, okay, where's our common ground? You know, what do we what do we talk about?


You know, once we pass, you know, where do you live and what do you do kind of stuff and then it starts becoming uh interesting. I suppose so yeah, you're right, you look good.


Well you know I even started out this conversation with a what do you do question? It's just I'm genuinely interested in data technology and all that stuff and computer science. I love asking questions you know?


No, that's president.


Yeah.


That makes them makes sense. Like I said, I mean you gotta get the conversation going somehow, right? So what else, what else can you do?


Okay.


Like I said, you have to find some common points of interest or some, you know, some kind of thing, you know, where you can um start starting, start engaging in in some way.


Head up with well done thank goodness I'm done with it.


So yeah, no, it totally, it totally, it totally makes sense. So, so you said you just double college finished college, Cool. Yeah, and now out into the wild world back home, but I mean, you know, wild world of trying to make a career, I was gonna say I can't I'm having a hard time imagining it, you know, and what not, and I have I have two boys and their round about your age I think, and, you know, my biggest, you know, anxiety and worries and whatnot or whatever is around them, you know, it's like, I can't picture I, you know, I can't wrap my head around it, you know, because like I said, when I said to you, it's not having a huge impact on me, I'm continuing to do my work, I'm kind of okay, you know, it's not a big deal um you know, I'm just kind of, you know, drifting towards full retirement, so yeah, you know, like I said, this is not as as impactful as too, but you guys, it's like, gosh, you know, now you have to try to think about, okay, you have to go in the world and start my career and whatnot and whatever, but yeah, hold on, you have a challenge here because you got this going on, I just can't, you know, I I just can't problem that.


Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's it's especially hard with Covid right now you know, especially with unemployment so high, it's the worst time. Mhm. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah mm. Yeah. Mhm. Cool. Mhm. Okay. Hi the biggest problem that like a lot of people are having, especially a lot of my friends who just graduated is that they are not only competing with unemployed people, they're also competing with the furloughed people and the people who just got laid off and are about to be hired back so all those new positions are going to be taken by their employees that they got rid of.


Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. Thank you. Alright. Right. Right, Wretch.


Which is just a tough situation for the companies to like I get it, you know?


Yeah. Oh yeah, no, it's it's it's just it's just it's just it's just crazy crazy all around and like I said, you know, and and so and so a lot of the traditional um um um you know, venues and opportunities and whatnot and whatever have been, you know, kind of taken away.


Mhm. Yeah.


So for example, if it's somebody, you know, if if you were in the arts, you know, let's set, you know, you're selecting or music or whatnot or whatever and, you know, just graduate.


Yeah. Yeah. I can't even imagine.


Obviously one of the things, you know, that a lot of folks do um is, well, you know, I got to get some kind of a job, you know, to kind of support me and whatnot or whatever while I'm trying to make my way into that world, so, you know, waiting a waitressing or bartending or whatnot or whatever, well, that's kind of gone, you know, so we go to a big extent stuff, so you don't have that, you know, even and so yeah, the whole dynamic and the paradigm is just shifted so much, like I said, it's yeah.


Uh huh. I mean it still blows my mind how they've been cutting social safety nets at the same exact time you know why would you cut unemployment when most people are unemployed?


Mhm. All right. Yeah. Right. Exactly.


It I mean I get it to save money, but whose money?


Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like I said, you know, if you, yeah, if you really start, you know, like I said, talking about it and getting into it and whatnot or whatever, it just, it just just just a level of insanity and like I said, it very much feels like, you know, Kafka uh you know.


Yes, it's very Kafka esque, it's really weird.


No, no.


That's such a great description for its dystopian, essentially, like, oh, okay.


Yeah. Yeah. It is, it is so so so yeah, no, you know, I wish you good luck, you know, I mean in terms of, you know, like I said, I mean hopefully we'll get back to normal, you know, that fascinates me to that everybody kind of uses that term.


Yeah, there's no normal, I genuinely don't know if I'm ever going to be comfortable in a crowd again, you know, like just watching a movie that has a big crowd makes me feel weird.


I'm like yeah, I don't know about getting back to normal. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.


I went through my phone and looked at videos that I took it like six flags of just waiting in line and I couldn't imagine, I'm like, it's online versus in person and Yeah.


Right. Right. Right, right. Yeah. The fascinating thing to me is like I said, I mean, you know, again, like I said, you know, it breaks down in terms of demographics and whatnot and whatever, you know, where, you know to me where people of your age I think, you know, like I said will be fairly adaptable versus I think people that are in their forties, I think let's say, I think I have a much more difficult time from a social perspective, adapting and getting used to the idea that yes, I can't go to the movies the way I used to go to and that's going to be a real big problem for you. I think rather for guys like you, um where things have been shifting already in terms of, you know, social dynamics and how, you know, uh totally. Yeah, I mean like I said, you know, because I gotta talk to my son, you know, whatever and use outdated terms, you know? Like I said, I mean asking them if they're dating anybody and they'll be like, you know, no, we don't date, you know, it's not a thing anymore, you know?


Kind of okay, I got it. So so that's all, that's all. But like I said for people, like I said that I think are like in their forties or thereabouts, you'll see people like my age, I don't think it's gonna be that difficult because it's not that big of a deal for me.


Yeah, it's just Mhm.


So yeah, if I'm not gonna be able to go out to restaurants that more and much more okay, you know, I've done all of that, you know, and I've enjoyed it, so I'm not gonna miss it that much, you know what I mean?


Okay.


Because I'm at that age and you know, I just like hanging out, relaxing, reading and listening to music and doing my little stuff so I'm good.


Mhm. Yeah.


But like I said, people in that middle area I think is really really gonna struggle with it and I'm not going to be able to understand, you know, how to do things differently. So bullshit bullshit.


Yeah, like I said, I'm back home, so I get to see two people in that exact age grade try to figure it out.


You can you can use it as a uh well you help, you should be uh you can observe it in a scientific way, you know?


I'm here to help. Uh I'll keep a notebook, hold your bang.


So you fascinating hope for sure.


Uh


For sure. So anyway, both lost radio. Mhm. 30 years gone. Yeah. Mm No, no, I can't hear. Uh huh. Okay, see you. Bye bye.